WEBVTT - Tkay Maidza's Rules For Stepping Into Your Power ✊ 🎤 ❤️‍🔥 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:02.960 Flex and Frooms. 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.320 Flex and Fromes. This is the Flex and Frooms catch 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.520 up podcast. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:09.840 It is not often we share the mic with anybody 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.799 else because we love the sounds of her animosis. But 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.120 every now and then there is someone so exceptional, so incredible, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.480 and so legendary that we have to do them justice 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.919 and we have to do our civic duty to you 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.439 all to ensure that we share the sweet truth of them. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:30.520 She is a zimbabwe And born Australian rays Los Angeles 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.479 based singer, songwriter, artist, creative director. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.000 Everything great with the world. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.440 You might recognize her or her music from when she 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.840 was literally fifteen, winning awards. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.360 All over your TV, all of your radio. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.560 While you were doing nish, she was making generational wealth. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:52.800 She is an ARIA Award winner, flum collaborator, k Trinada collaborator. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.640 Her name is TK Mizer and she's in the studio today. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.760 Give it up for t K. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.360 I'm gonna need you to do that every day. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.840 I'm so glad you're here. Everything feels right within the world. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.720 Before we turn this conversation into a catch up, we 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.720 have to talk about the new album, Sweet Justice. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:15.800 What's it about. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:21.280 It's like a synopsis, snapshot Diary of my state of 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.880 mind after I let go of so many friends and 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.360 I took a break from writing music because I really 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.400 needed to heal internally and just get back to ground 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.520 zero in terms of like who I was. And then 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:38.039 when I went from like pouring me and turned into like, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.440 oh my god, what's next, That's when I started making 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:45.200 these songs and they're like empowering songs about what if 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.520 it's fine if I'm single, what if it's fine if 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.400 I'm angry, Like it's just like championing that like homecoming 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:52.520 of coming back to yourself. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.840 Did you feel any kind of way about making something 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.600 so personal the subject matter of your music. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.000 No, Because I feel feel like I'm at that age 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.280 where people start to speak out about their experiences and 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.920 it's real, and for me, it's not performative or anything. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.160 And that was like the next chapter of what I 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:13.079 wanted to talk about. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.359 And you and I are quite spiritual people, and we've 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.880 made a considered effort to let that be a thing 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.400 that's not secretive, right, Like you know, it takes a 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.520 certain amount of courage and a certain amount of self 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:28.400 assuredness to let that hidden secret or shadow side that 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:32.079 you have becomes something that everybody can participate in and 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.080 look onto. What have been the positives of sharing that 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.040 side of yourself and what has been the negatives of it. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.560 I feel like it makes me feel e validates me 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.760 in terms of being a real person. I think there's 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.640 always a misconception that I'm just like silly and always 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.720 having fun and there's something like these going on in 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.720 my head. So I think when people hear that, you know, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.640 the common stories about women in the music industry or 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.560 just being a woman in general, and I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.919 that happened to me too, Everyone's like whoa. And then 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.360 it's like, but I recovered and came out of it 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.840 and I'm happy, and they're like how. I'm like, because 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.280 spirituality and I believe in something beyond me, and that's 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.640 what I speak to when I'm looking for something, you know, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:13.520 when I want help. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.080 What was that process like, tak going from feeling like 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.880 you've got this image where you are like quite easy 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.080 and fun to stepping into I guess like your power 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:23.880 as a woman. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:29.000 For me, it was listening to a lot of podcasts 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.360 like I think, I mean, I used to listen to 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.040 flex Once you had a different podcast and just a 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.760 lot of like minded people and when you understand when 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.240 you just learn like the language and the way people speak, 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.360 and seeing that it's not like a taboo or something 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.800 that should be secreted. I feel like I found the 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.200 words and the way to speak. I think it's just 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.720 from learning and analyzing people and reading about psychology that 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.800 I was like, Oh, now I can finally put words 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.000 to these emotions and like these moments that I'm experiencing. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.440 Funny about the power of communication. I think they get 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.240 stuck in Oh, I need to express myself. But if 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.480 you don't have the right words, then you can't articulate yourself, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.960 And if you're dealing with people who can't comprehend what 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.520 you're saying, then you get stuck in this loop where 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.880 your evolution is stagnant, and then how you can show 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.400 up for yourself and others also stagnate. Yeah, I wanted 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.640 to quickly talk about the collaboration process, because you're speaking 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.800 about things that are inherently about you, but also in 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.240 that process you're collaborating with other artists, like you work 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:30.960 with k Trinada. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:31.600 What's that like? 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.800 It was so fun Like I feel like even like 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.799 including everyone else that worked on the album. They're all 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.360 like Silent Assassins, which is a song that I had 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.839 with Flume, Like they all are really quiet. If you 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.360 get to know them, they open up like a lot. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.800 And I feel like the most important thing when it 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.400 came to befriending someone like ha Shanado was just showing 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.120 him that I make mistakes, some awkward like the session 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.839 might be the worst session, or we will start an idea, 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.320 and I feel like he was d I kind of 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.800 open to that, like he was like, oh, it was 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.440 just kind of silly. Before I went into the studio 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.960 with him, I kept seeing him at parties like so 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.919 many times, so that was kind of my end. But 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.480 the thing I wanted to like reinforce was I just 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.640 like running into you at a party, like we don't 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.480 have to work. And it was almost like a year 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.360 and a half later that it finally happened, but it 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.960 was running into him, and then we played a festival 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.880 tour together and he's just like, oh, she must be 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.440 like a real person if I keep seeing it. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.200 He thought you a background character. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.760 And one year later and then now I'm playing a 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:39.480 festival in Australia and she's here again, like she's not 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.360 some girl being like, hey listen to my demos. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.640 Yeah literally, though literally, we have this series called flex 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.000 and for Rooms as Rules for Life, where we just 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.920 say what we think the rules for our own existence 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.640 should be. And then a byproduct is if you align 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.240 with us and you want to live in a similar way, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.000 then follow along. And I was thinking, because you've been 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.719 through this huge transformation, you probably learned at least five 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.160 things about femininity and rebirth and you know, things breaking 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.000 down and friendships and womanhood and. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.279 All of these things. So I thought, if you can. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.960 Come through with a couple I don't know, words of wisdom, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.760 nuggetsive truth, feedback or advice that would be sick. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:22.400 Yes, let's start, okay, So my first one is when 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.720 I mean a few sense like a feeling of anxiety 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.320 and something needs to change, Like if you feel stagnant, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.480 it's likely probably about to change, Like things are probably 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.839 about the change, And that's definitely your spirit saying wake up, babes. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.640 If you don't wake up, it's going to crumble on 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.520 you or you have to like get the backup plan 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.360 to recover because regardless something what you knew before is when. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:47.200 The plays are real. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.680 The calm before the storm. Everyone said, HM doesn't ring 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.480 a bell, and it doesn't ring about But. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely remember before I had this 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.360 like six month break off when I didn't write anything. 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.599 I was just like, I just know that whatever I 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.160 need next, there has to be some big shift. And 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.640 the big shift was I probably lost like ten friends. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:13.200 But yo, all right, well that'll do it. That'll do it. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:20.560 And the other one is just follow your bliss. If 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.520 it doesn't make you happy, don't do it because at 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.640 the end of the day, you're going home by yourself. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.400 You have to deal with the feelings of why did 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.440 I do that today? So do what is exciting to you. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:33.080 It's real. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.360 And like I said before, Tika has been in this 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.000 industry and she's technically been a superstar for ten whole 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.440 years since she was fifteen. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.480 I said it before. While you're at home doing. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:46.160 This, she was making bags, making money, winning awards. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.760 Give me your next three rules true wisdoms. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:56.320 When everything is going to trash, I would say the 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.280 number one is check your health. Are you eating good, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:04.320 are you drinking water? Have you gone outside? And then 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.040 see how you feel after. I feel like most of 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.440 the times when I'm panicking is because I'm just not 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.920 in my like right health. So just the basic necessities. 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:16.600 People hate to hear it. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.880 They hate to hear it. This is what I mean 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.880 basic necessity. When things are crumbling, there's. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.120 Given an era of like getting up and having ten 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:24.880 minutes of sunlight. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.320 It worked. When people hate hearing this. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.440 My boyfriend would be like, oh my god, I'm spiraling, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.760 and I'm like, you haven't left your apartment in three days, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.000 Like I know that, go outside, go outside, And it 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:37.840 has to say. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.959 But it's also why you need fireside in your life, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.720 because they're just gonna have to clip you a little 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.320 bit when you feel like you're at your lowest. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.080 But it's all for your self betterment. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:47.960 Leo, that's the crazy thing. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:53.319 Babes, give me the rest of the chart, not now, reveal. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:53.680 The chart. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:01.840 The otherall. Trust your opinion firstly and foremost. Because also 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.960 it's kind of similar to the one of the last 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:07.760 ones I said, no one knows exactly where you're coming from, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.480 like completely, and only you know what's right for you, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.680 and you're going to be happier if you fail from 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.160 your ideas as opposed to failing from what someone told 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.280 you to do per. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.319 Facts, and this is the kind of wisdom you only 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.439 get from living and doing. You can't podcast your way 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.000 into this one. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.160 I literally just from myself. I mean, flex has heard 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.760 me say this. I'm Captain Jack Sparrow, like I'm always 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.200 stumbling and running and like stumbling, and then I'm on 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.000 a boat and then I fowl in the water, and 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:44.880 then I'm I'd imagine stumbling again, And. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:45.880 That's what it's about. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.240 Would you rather feel like you're on steady ground but 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.200 feel like abum in every sense of the word, or 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.400 make a few mistakes and have a few wins. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.640 I would rather make mistakes at least I tried. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:58.920 You know, one more. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.880 My last one, which is a lesson I learned from 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.600 a tennis coach, was trying to return every ball, or 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.520 in other words, try and show up as much as 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.400 you can, because then you're turning the ball to someone 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.560 else's court. It could be to a boss, to the universe, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.320 and then you can find out what happens next. If 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.640 you don't return the ball or even try to run 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.360 for it, how do you know what's going to happen? 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.840 You didn't do anything. I know. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.280 It's like sending texts. In the emails, I'm like, please 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.120 just take it for a little while, don't make me 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.160 reply straight on, just reply. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.200 But you're so much better place than you were before. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.840 You're like one step forward. Whether it's like a very 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.280 annoying email chain, which. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.520 This is true, one step ahead. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.800 Oh look, TK, thank you so much for coming to 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.560 chat with us. Your Lady Out of Luck is out 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.760 now and your new album Sweet Justice is out November third. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:53.480 Thank you so much. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:53.760 TK. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:54.959 Stream TK. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:56.719 Let me guy. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.199 You've been listening to the Flex and Fruit it was 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.160 Daily podcast. For more, tune in de Cat on DAB 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:04.960 or stream it on iHeartRadio.