1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line right now to tell 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about this idea and what 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: it would take to get it moving. Is the Lord 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets. Good morning to you. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Corn, Good morning Katie. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: How are you very well? Conn and our v park 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Bundilla Beach tell me more. 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Yes, well, we have a lot of inquiries from people 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: who come from downside ives and their main complaint was 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: there aren't many places for our vist and if there are, 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: they are full very quickly and if you recall some 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: of them, they can't in a sporting ground knee instut highway. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: So we had to look around and we thought, well, 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: great place to put the ives for many reasons is 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: the Bandilla Bit's beautiful surroundings, very close to a lot 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: of clubs restaurants. Is to access the museum. And the 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: other thing is when you activate a place, all the 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: things that the previous textas mentioned are the social behavior 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: refer our fights disappear. If you go down to Nightliff 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Pitch where a lot of people go there in the afternoons, 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: there aren't any of these kinds of activities because the people, 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: these kind of people don't like publicity, don't like lights, 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: don't like activation, so we think we can actually activate 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: the area and clean it up. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: So con what about when you sort of talk about, 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, some of the infrastructure that is associated with 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: having RV's there. You know, I know that it's been said, 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: or my understanding is that it's been said that they 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: would need to be self contained, these av's, But do 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you still need you know, waste drop points and things 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: like that. 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: Well, most of the avs or all of the av's 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: are of course self contained. They've got their own toilet, 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: their own shower. They need a downpoint and certainly we're 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: going to establish one there and if finally the trial 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: becomes a reality, until that time, we're not going to 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: do anything. But again, there will be some facility. There's 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: some toilets ready there, there are lives, it's there, there's 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: easy access at downpoint. Is a very minor issue that 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: we can address. 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Corn ave been contacted by people saying, goodness, may how 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: is the council going to get this VPAK up and 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: going when the lawns aren't even being mode at the moment, well, the. 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Monent not more at the moment, because we're at the 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: end of the contract and certainly we're not say, let's 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: say there's a much to be desired about the operation, 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: the current operation, but our contractors changing from next month 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: and we're going to see a much improved loan and 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: mowing of the loans and our facilities are park. 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: All right, So we're actually in between contracts. So is 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: that grass going to grow even longer in different locations? 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Connor have you got somebody to manage it? 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Well? Hopefully with no rain the grass will not grow 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: as usually happens. But there are new contractors starting very 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: early this month next month, and we will address all 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: these issues. 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: It's pretty bad though in some locations right now. So 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: is it just going to stay that way until next month? 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Katie, I know very well about it. Oh no, No, 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: the old contractors still will continue to mow the lawns 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: and just programming it at the moment. But I said 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: you before, I've been approached by a number of people. 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: They actually bring to my attention some of the issues 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: with the quality of the service, and we're addressing this 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: one as a matter of priority. 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, all right, let's go back to the vapor 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: con How many are these would be allowed? There? 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: There I'm going to be hundered. There probably will be 69 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: something between ten or twenty. Again, depend the area we're 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: going to be allocated depends on the response we get 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: from the people. It's going to be a temporary area 72 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: like PEP can't stay there for six months. They probably 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: come and stay for one or two or three nights 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: and then move on. The good thing with AVIS, as 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: I think before, it's self contained. They've got everything, including power, 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: so the infrastructure will need to put it with minimal 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: apart from the downpoint. The other thing bringing the AVIS 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: from let's say how it's springs or have to do 79 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: to the city. That means there'll be more people in 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: the city, will be spending more money in the city. 81 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: They have to buy a few they have to by supplies. 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: But although they go out that don't stay and they 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: harsh all the time they go out to the local 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: residences of the local venues. 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: How much will it cost to be able to get 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: one of those spots. 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have this information yet. For the same reason, 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: we're not going to go to that depth unless we 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: get the decision by the people. There's not much point 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: of proceeding of anything. If people say No, it's about 91 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the idea. We don't want it. But from what I 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: read now from response, we get the majority of the people, 93 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: about seventy percent think that's a good idea. 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, most people are getting in contact with us and 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: saying that they think it's a good idea. I know 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: that there's a few that are sort of saying, oh, 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: I just don't know about this. I think that they're 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: just going to get broken into. 99 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Well anything can be broken into if there is reef 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: ruff around. But by bringing these people there, suddenly they'll 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: be going to be activation and so there'd be more 102 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: people coming and going all the time. So the people 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: they actually cause problems and usually they like a very 104 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: deserted place to drink. We'll find somewhere else to go. 105 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Con what about on the footpaths and stuff in the 106 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: area would they be so where exactly would the RVs 107 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: be parked? Would they be like on the grass area 108 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: or are they going to be in the actual car 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: park area there at Bundella, They're going to. 110 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Be in the car park area. Yeah, we will not 111 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: put the arves on the grass area. The grass area 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: will be left for recreation. If people were to have 113 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: a walk walk clear dog or go somewhere they can 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: use the grass area and the big park that's between 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: that area and of course East Point Road. The arvest 116 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: will be in the hard stand. If we have to 117 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: do some ratification for the footpaths, we will do so. 118 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: As I do you before our attentions to activate the place, 119 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: you don't activate the place just living the hog ites. 120 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh look, I think that it would be a stunning 121 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: place to wake up in your RV, you know, looking 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: out over the over the water. It'll be absolutely beautiful. 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: It is beautiful there at Bundela Beach. I guess I'm 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: just trying to get an idea in my head of 125 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: how exactly it will work. And I know our listeners 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: will be doing the same. So with those vans parked up, 127 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: we'll local staf will be able to sort of walk 128 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: through the area or does they need to be do 129 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: you reckon? There's going to need to be fencing around 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: the place. 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: What will we need We are not going to restrict access. 132 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Certainly you can't walk into an RV, but said if 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: you walk around it or around that area, there's not 134 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: going to be any problem. 135 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: And assuming that they need to be a bit of 136 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: an application process for people to go through as well. 137 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Would they What we'll do is actually do the trial 138 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: depending on the response to the people. That would be 139 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: a small trial, and while we do the trial, will 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: ask for expression of with the rest from the private sector. 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: We want people who got experience in running these kind 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: of facilities rather than the council corn. 143 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Another thing I want to ask you about, get just 144 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: a very quick update. You and I spoke last week 145 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: about this application to heritage list the entire Esplanade. Now 146 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: on the weekend I saw the advertisement in the nt 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: US for provisional heritage listing. I spoke to the chief 148 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: about this on Monday and raised your concerns. She had 149 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: said that yes, you had spoken to her as well. 150 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Con are we going to end up with the whole 151 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: of the Esplanade heritage listed? 152 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: My concern, Kate, is not going to be only the Esplanade, 153 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: is going to be the whole Esplanant, including the cliffs 154 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: and about five hundred meters into the sea. This is 155 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: a really an avid plaim from some people that they 156 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: don't want anything to be developed a dowin. They want 157 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: to have done the way towards the nineteen fifties The 158 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: problem with God is there is a nomination process. Due 159 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: process has not been followed by the public. Is supposed 160 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: to be their job. My reaction is, if this commany 161 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: wants to develop a forty billion dollar economy, you don't 162 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: put the brakes on any potential developing in the area. 163 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: And again what I said to the Chief Minister, if 164 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: the esplant is a heretag place, what about the waterfront 165 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: when the Neptuna was exploded and killed forty five people? 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Is there a more cultural significant place on this what 167 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: about this exercise and actually in the park in front 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: of the deck theater. You can't just select which one 169 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you won't declare and leave the others out. We already 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: spoken before about developing the lamon Ubus. As a matter 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: of fact, they were lamonu Bus before, so part of 172 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: the heritage. So I said before, there are number of 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: people in Darwin that want to stop everything happening. They 174 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: don't care about anything else but themselves. And my question is, 175 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: let's stop every development in Darwin and then stop complaining 176 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: about our children going down south to find a job 177 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: because we're unable to provide them with. 178 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Jobs here coll logistically right now? So is that provisional 179 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: heritage listing in place now. 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: Well, they tell us it is, but when we try 181 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: to find out where is the gazette with gazette, we 182 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: can't find out when get our lawyers. The lawyers has 183 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: found a lot of big gaps in the process and 184 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: most likely council will be taking legal action against it. 185 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: One thing I want to make clear, so the. 186 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Council is potentially going to be taking legal action here 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: against the Norse Territory government. 188 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: I gave the department against the part that is done improperly. 189 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: But one thing I want to say a kay is 190 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: that council had any intention of developing the esplanet. The 191 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: splant has got a special zoning and councils never will 192 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: actually seek to change that zoning. So I don't know 193 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: why people want to declare heritage to already heritage. There's 194 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: a cenotaph, we have the events taking place that commemorate 195 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: our history. It's got a special zoning and open space 196 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: recreation which are not going to be changed. Some people 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: just think differently than others. 198 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean, the reality here is if something is heritage listed, 199 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: it makes it very difficult to you know, to be 200 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: able to change the light bulb. If it's if it's 201 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: a home, for example, you know, if it's a historic 202 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: site and let's say an old you know, an older 203 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: heritage list at home, it's it's very difficult to basically 204 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: do anything to it. So if there's a provisional listing 205 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: of the espanade right now, how is the council actually 206 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: able to do anything at this point? 207 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, at this stage Council will continue this job investment 208 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: for the same reason. We understand that the whole process 209 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: is invalid and our lawyers have identified that and we 210 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: have written to the government to asking them provide us 211 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: the documentation and we haven't received anything yet. 212 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: So the whole process stuff from the department. So from 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: your understanding, it's it's a department. But the ad in 214 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: the paper was the Attorney General Chancey. 215 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Paike, Well, I can't find the gazette, so as the gazette, 216 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: so we can accept it until the presenters with the evidence. 217 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: As I said to you before, you can't just say 218 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: it is provisionally heritage if you can't provide the evidence 219 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: how it was declared, where it was declared, where was gazetted. 220 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Goodness, may this sounds like another uh you know, Debarkle, 221 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it'd call it, I don't know what the 222 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 1: best word unfortunate. 223 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: But these things happen, but this soon happened. If the 224 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: government can you know, follow its own legislation, then there 225 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: are problems. 226 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: So connort this point in time, the Darwin City Council 227 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: is looking at take legal action against the Department over 228 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: not following due process. 229 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: That's right, Well, now are you our lawyers believe that's 230 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: what the. 231 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Lawyers believe at this point? Are you able to tell 232 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: us you know, do you believe that the different events 233 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: and different things, because last time we'd spoken you had 234 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: raised concerns about whether things like the glenty we're going 235 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: to be able to go ahead. How are you feeling 236 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: about all of that at this point? 237 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: Is this is the thing our lawyers are looking at 238 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: the moment, and this is what I said to you 239 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: before we are going to look at there's open a 240 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: lot of questions. Does give many answers. We have to 241 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: actually proceed and see how what it means, how it means, 242 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: is it valid? It's not our understanding and our lawyers 243 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: have advised us that they believe from what it is 244 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: said they've done the due process was not followed and 245 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: they believe the whole process is invalid. Goodness the government 246 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: to come up with the answer. 247 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Rosie has just messaged through. She said, Hi Katie, 248 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: Heaven help us if the Espana becomes heritage listed take 249 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: a look at Stella Marrus and you know what had 250 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: happened there. No thank you, says Rosie. There's lots of 251 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: other people messaging through about lots of different things con 252 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: including those r vs. And someone said is there going 253 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: to be a walking path or is there going to 254 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: be a bit of a path for walkers? Otherwise it 255 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: might make it a bit difficult once those are vs 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: are in the area. 257 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: As I explained to you, there will be properly designed 258 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: so access to the bitch and to the past is 259 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: not denied to the people. 260 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: Well, Convat scarlas the Lord Mayor of Darwin, we always 261 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. I think we're catching up again tomorrow 262 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: as well, aren't we. 263 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: I think so too, and I'll talk to you more 264 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: about it tomorrow. 265 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Good on your con Thank you appreciate your 266 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: time this morning. 267 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: Have a good ad for you too.