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Speaker 1: Get a fresh way to drive home with.

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Speaker 2: Will and Woody super special guests in the studio with

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Speaker 2: this this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: He's here.

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Speaker 1: I think he's here when you turned there. Nice to

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Speaker 1: make you, which we're going to be spinning for you

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Speaker 1: very very shortly. But thanks so much for coming in.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing new sound this song before. I'm a huge

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Speaker 2: Arctic Marky's fan from.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Jesus going, isn't there some real Alex Turner vibes haven't? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Everyone keeps saying that I actually literally think about it

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Speaker 3: was probably like a subconscious yeah that I guess, like

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Speaker 3: that's what I was brought up on.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I when I start making my first my

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Speaker 3: own like musical choices, I suppose that they were the

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Speaker 3: bands that were around them and the cooks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's it's great not to.

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Speaker 2: Say I actually didn't love the dripping baseline that was

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Speaker 2: in Slowhands.

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Speaker 1: This is a really different, like grungey sort of a

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Speaker 1: vibe that like it Almo, feels really natural to you.

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Speaker 2: There's a moment actually in the film cut I said

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Speaker 2: to your wood when he's wearing Sonny's and he's got

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Speaker 2: his hair going, and I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, and actually talking to the music video Nile,

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Speaker 4: the first scene a woman is seen leaving your house,

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Speaker 4: but she's left her phone behind. Is that from a

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Speaker 4: personal experience at all?

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Speaker 3: I just I just thought it was quite funny to

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Speaker 3: be able to do that, because I like the way

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Speaker 3: I wanted to shoot it was, you know what, you

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Speaker 3: very rarely hear of someone talking in the music video.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of like, asked to break the fourth wall.

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Speaker 1: Here's the first thing you do.

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Speaker 3: So I thought would be quite cool to add that

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Speaker 3: kind of something different than because you very rarely heard that.

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Speaker 2: Mate, Absolutely love the songmaking process. Can you talk to

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Speaker 2: just about where you're moving to now? I mean I

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Speaker 2: did read an article that you'd written recently about the

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Speaker 3: Material out of going through a bright cap and when

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Speaker 3: that walls, and I was, I was like four years

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Speaker 1: Now you've got a whole new songwriting process.

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Speaker 2: Obviously because it's not emotively driven, which is naturally going

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Speaker 2: to change the sound of the cheese.

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Speaker 1: What sort of stuff are you vibing at the moment, Well.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of just a little bit heavier. I did

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Speaker 3: a lot of touring over the.

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Speaker 2: Last Mexico just recently.

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Speaker 1: Is that Singapore as well?

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Speaker 3: Level I just came from Singapore. Yeah, well, just doing

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Speaker 3: my own shows on the tour last time. You know,

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Speaker 3: you just I kind of sat and pigeon holed myself

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Speaker 1: Yeah right.

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Speaker 4: It must be a shame for you. It's such an

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Speaker 4: instant reaction. Yeah, when you say a crowd and that reactor.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been rattled by a reaction, whether it

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Speaker 1: Just a bit ratt this song. Nol Horren's in the

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine getting on stage and performing songs that

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Speaker 3: like you've got three minutes to do the best version

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Speaker 3: So you get that's what that's why you get really

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Speaker 3: If you can had the first few lanes out and

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Speaker 1: Where your first chord. Yeah, it's all down hill from there.

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Speaker 3: What is that just and it comes to your last second.

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Speaker 1: But I know I can I pull you out of

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Speaker 2: I was just reading some stuff about you backpacking recently actually,

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Speaker 1: How do you go separating who you are?

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, the fact that you know you're NAHR

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Speaker 2: You're very very normal guy.

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Speaker 1: Do you find it hard to sort of go out

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Speaker 2: And I just actually hang out at hos still and

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Speaker 2: made a couple of randoms and inside of them, Hey,

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Speaker 1: You know what I did ten years ago with you know,

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Speaker 3: Do you find that sometimes? Yeah, I'd always literally just

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Speaker 1: Being in a hostel. Yeah, and being in as Oh

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Speaker 3: Used to play the stayed in some sketchy places. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing You're in like six men domes, four

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Speaker 3: It was because like when I'd always say it, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you come across as a very very very stand

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Speaker 2: it's brilliant that you're making these sort of music. And

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Speaker 2: can I also say, like, of all the blokes that

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Speaker 2: were in that and part of that, it's really cool

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Speaker 2: to say you've got your own sound now and like

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Speaker 2: it's obviously you know, you play guitar, you're the front

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Speaker 2: That's going to be a huge, huge transition, man. So congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, really really really happy for you. So

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I have a great afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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