WEBVTT - This Old Thing?

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is for general information only and should not

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<v Speaker 1>be taken as psychological advice. Listeners should consult with their

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare professionals for specific medical advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Hello, I'm Amanda Keller and I'm Anita McGregor, and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Double a Chattery. Anita, how are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've had a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my lord, have I got a cold. I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>that stage now where my head feels as though it's

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<v Speaker 1>just emptying out my nose, which is i'm plastomers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for sharing. Yeah, you say you're feeling better,

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<v Speaker 2>But if we need to take a break so mucus

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<v Speaker 2>can pour down the back of your throat or out

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<v Speaker 2>through your nose, please let us know. I will let

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day my brother still uses a hanky hanky.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something. Even though apparently it's more hygienic or better

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone that tissues, the idea of it makes me

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<v Speaker 2>want to gag.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Carrie have to wash them? Yes, of course, or

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron doesn't wash them?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they have their own, you know, as many households do.

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<v Speaker 2>My chores and he is yours and that's her choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it might be you. I know anyway, enough

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<v Speaker 2>of that pleasant, nice to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see you too. Films are so like it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it has been a thousand years of snot. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that film, Amanda. I want you to tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about this glorious jacket, yes, that you are wearing. It

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<v Speaker 2>is spectacularly beautiful. Well, thank you. And I bought it

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<v Speaker 2>on consignment from someone who's raising money for a fabulous

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<v Speaker 2>charity called Police Day Foundation. So it's a it's an

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<v Speaker 2>original dult jakeer Barna. But I would never buy an

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<v Speaker 2>original adult jakeer Barna. It's I think it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it's from the seventies or something. It doesn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>Spectacause it's it's like kind of down to your knees

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<v Speaker 1>and it just oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like hippy ish in the different colors

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<v Speaker 2>and materials. Well, thank you, thank you. It's it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>when someone else this morning at work said that they

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<v Speaker 2>like this jacket and I sort of deflected once again

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<v Speaker 2>and said, oh, this this this old thing. Literally I

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<v Speaker 2>bought it on consignment. It's an old thing, and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. And she said, you always deflect when someone

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<v Speaker 2>gives a compliment to your clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that I do the same thing? I like? I

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's like, oh you know, oh, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>this forever. It's stuck in the back of my closet,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's so weird, Like why do we do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Amound it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Even the young girl woman at work who said

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<v Speaker 2>that about my jacket, she said, she does the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, so I got this on sale. Blah blah blah. Why.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why we do it? I think very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to accept a compliment, b to just say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you and let it go. We have to undercut it somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>don't we.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that our choice in clothes is somehow

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<v Speaker 1>we think is a reflection of our character, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it in the morning and you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what you're going to dress in, is it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a reflective of your mood? Or is it more

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<v Speaker 1>reflective of you know, who is Amanda Keller?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably all of those things. Harley used to get up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning as a joke, saying what will I

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<v Speaker 2>go as today? You'd say it as a joke, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's absolute truth in that, and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we deflect it because we see it as an

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<v Speaker 2>extension of our personalities. So if someone said to you, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so smart, you absolutely deflect that. Gee you're funny,

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<v Speaker 2>you deflect it. Yeah, so this is an extension of that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that I've always admired about you, Amouanda,

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<v Speaker 1>is you have this great sense of style. Like really, yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to have to deflect that because that's embarrassing to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't because I don't know, Like, you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>time I see you, you have amazing stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and sometimes you are dressed for a show

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<v Speaker 1>or that kind of thing, and often you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the choice in that. But when it has been like

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<v Speaker 1>when I see you, when it's your choice about what

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<v Speaker 1>you wear, and the choices that you've worn for some

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<v Speaker 1>of the award shows and all that kind of they're beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>See I'm going to say thank you. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing breakfast radio, people always think, oh, aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>lucky you can wear your pajamas to work, But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean lots of people have jobs where no one season.

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<v Speaker 2>These days, we're constantly being filmed, so people do see you.

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<v Speaker 2>But lots of people have jobs where no one sees

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you'd never say, like being a bank teller

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<v Speaker 2>or someone behind the scenes at the bank. Well, unlike

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<v Speaker 2>the tellers, you can wear your pajamas to work.

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<v Speaker 1>You just wear nothing from the waist down. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a bank teller.

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<v Speaker 2>Rated, I know what that's That's exactly what happens. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's I in the morning get dressed as if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going for a full day at work, which i am.

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<v Speaker 2>I see hundreds of other people and I can't wake

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<v Speaker 2>up on this. I think I've put myself together. But

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<v Speaker 2>you also, Anita, I think you have a fabulous sense

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<v Speaker 2>of style. I thank you, and other people must have

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<v Speaker 2>commented about.

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<v Speaker 1>That too, well. It's It's interesting when I was ending

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<v Speaker 1>a position in Canada that the entire clerical staff was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that they really looked forward to seeing what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to wear every day, and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really I didn't know that that was part of

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<v Speaker 1>their routine. But it was a lovely compliment to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of say, because they were saying, you dress in a

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<v Speaker 1>really unique way and eat it like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Be clear, it was a compliment. Now that I'm got

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<v Speaker 2>clown shoes on today.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been that, but no, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>that what they were trying to say is that I

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<v Speaker 1>was dressing in a way that reflected my personality, which

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<v Speaker 1>was really lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I would not survive on a capsule wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no. And this isn't about having to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. But a capsule wardrobe is about not

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<v Speaker 2>having a lot of things. But it's about having just

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<v Speaker 2>a few basics. You and I, I think, have a

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<v Speaker 2>flamboyance to what we add to things in the capsule wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been very popular of late in this new

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to fill landfill and being more sustainable has

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<v Speaker 2>taken off again. But it is having one pair of pants,

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<v Speaker 2>one jump of one jacket, and occasionally mixing other things

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<v Speaker 2>in with it, but basically sticking to your basics. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think i'd be capable of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't well, I guess technically i'd be capable of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like there would be days that I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go, this is. I just don't feel like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of like Steve Jobs again, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I feel actually quite blast that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>men can go in the same suit for a year

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody would probably notice. There's probably been times where

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<v Speaker 1>men have done that and nobody's noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Stephanovic, hosting The Today Show, did exactly that. He

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<v Speaker 2>wore the same suit every day for a year to

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<v Speaker 2>see if anyone would make a comment because people were

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<v Speaker 2>always commenting about the female co host's clothes, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>no one noticed. Wow, the wardrobe people obviously knew of this.

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<v Speaker 2>He wore the same suit every day and not a

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<v Speaker 2>single comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm not surprised, but it's interesting that we are

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<v Speaker 1>somehow judged on what we wear.

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<v Speaker 2>And often I think for those bigger ward nights and things,

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<v Speaker 2>I think guys are lucky they put on a suit,

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<v Speaker 2>flat shoes done. But you make an interesting point. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you like that, Anita? Would you like to have less options?

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<v Speaker 1>There are some days where I can't think of what

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<v Speaker 1>to wear, and it would be you know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing when we moved here, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the boys had a school uniform here. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>one in Canada, and I have such a weird concept

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<v Speaker 1>to us. Oh it's but I've got to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I really I really appreciated that the boys could just

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<v Speaker 1>go and wear the same thing day to day. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no comparison about, you know, who had the great

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<v Speaker 1>sneakers or who had the you know, cool this or that.

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<v Speaker 2>Having teenage girls that would be so hot, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be so hard. So I kind of appreciated it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also, you know, I think sometimes people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>young people, they hit eighteen, and I think, do they

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<v Speaker 1>know how to dress? Now? Like all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they have this freedom, and do they do they know

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<v Speaker 1>how to put? Maybe that's where the capsule wardrobe came from.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in The Guardian and as a woman called

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<v Speaker 2>Kate Lever, and she said she despairs the limited opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>to look like an absolute mess in public. She sees

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure that women have on them that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>go to the letterbox, that lipstick on, you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby and for the next week look dreadful. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to get yourself together. Women would blow dry their

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<v Speaker 2>hair just leaving the house, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And she says, I've seen more than one glamorous one

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok warn their followers don't go to the gym

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<v Speaker 2>without wearing makeup and a cute outfit in case you

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<v Speaker 2>see your crush.

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<v Speaker 3>Um yeah, and don't get sweaty, and don't obviously don't

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<v Speaker 3>get sweaty, don't work out, Anita, don't work out, but

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<v Speaker 3>she said, the chance to look like an absolute mess.

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<v Speaker 2>The only loophole she has found is when you're walking

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<v Speaker 2>your dog. She has said, with her handsome shit sou

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<v Speaker 2>by her side, I can go out in the most

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<v Speaker 2>unhinged ensembles and no one seems bothered. I'm invisible, I'm untouchable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm immune to the judgment of others because I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>with my dog, and she says the sort of thing

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<v Speaker 2>she wears. She says, I might step out in a

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<v Speaker 2>pair of fuse linen hair and pants my mum brought

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<v Speaker 2>me in grease that have a hole in the crotch,

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<v Speaker 2>paired with Britney spears, concert memorabilia T shirt, knee high

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<v Speaker 2>shark print compression socks and some old birkenstocks. I might

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<v Speaker 2>be in striped box a shre a tank top and

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<v Speaker 2>no shoes. I might be in my pajama pants tucked

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<v Speaker 2>into gum boots, an old jumper of my dad's et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. She says, I love seeing other old other

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<v Speaker 2>dog walkers. They're in they're outside in stained clothes from

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<v Speaker 2>the previous week's walk, with a dog's dirty prints from men,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, and no one blinks an eye, no

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<v Speaker 2>one raises their phonomenalsly to film me for an Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>round up of the worst dress strangers. I'm free. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a mess. I'm just a girl walking her dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you and I go for walks. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not walking you like a dog and eater, though I

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<v Speaker 2>do bring a spare bag just in case, just in case.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But on our Saturday or Sunday morning walks, I'm quite

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<v Speaker 2>happy not to wear makeup some morning because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I will because I wake up my skin feels

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<v Speaker 2>red and blotchy. But I'm quite happy not to wear

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<v Speaker 2>makeup and just to wear an old tracksuit. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think i'd still go out wearing an electric blanket

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<v Speaker 2>and gum boots.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that for you, but I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>You do either. I don't know if i'd. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of being that free, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I could be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also don't have, like, you know, the it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds as though there's like these layers of craziness that

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<v Speaker 1>are going on, and I don't know that I have

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<v Speaker 1>the layers of craziness. You know, the tartan you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the plaid shirts and the and then and then a

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<v Speaker 1>parka and then a you know, like all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that goes over and then.

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<v Speaker 2>If you looked hard enough in anyone's wardrobe you'd find something.

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<v Speaker 1>You would you probably would, But yeah, I you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The the question that that comes up for me is

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that this woman is saying, yep, you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look as unhinged as you want there, But

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<v Speaker 1>where is that the last basting because we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about what happens with school drop offs, what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with going to the beach, what happens with going like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to a workout. How how where.

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<v Speaker 2>Are those where it's interesting where are the lines? Because

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<v Speaker 2>some schools have had to ask moms not to come

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<v Speaker 2>to the school drop off in your pajamas, saying, for

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<v Speaker 2>the sake of your child, think about how you are dressed,

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<v Speaker 2>not meaning dress up in a PUNSI way because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not wear your pajamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the concern that the you know kids are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go and taunt the other kid. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think your mom is going to look like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom looks like a you know, you know, homeless

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<v Speaker 1>person or why she why is she dressed like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were saying, you need to have pride

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<v Speaker 2>in yourself so your child a isn't embarrassed. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is the conversation at the time, and also your

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<v Speaker 2>child learns to have pride in their appearance as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair Enough, I think that the school yard is not

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<v Speaker 2>your bedroom. It's pretty much what they were saying. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at once doing a shopping center promotion and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the women there, I thought she was in fancy dress,

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<v Speaker 2>but she wasn't she This is the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>She had pajamas and she had no mental health issue

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<v Speaker 2>that I could see, and I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was just doing her shopping pajamas, brunch coat and

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<v Speaker 2>hair en'rollers.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this part of me that says, good on you.

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<v Speaker 2>There cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well who cares? And who should care? And is

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<v Speaker 1>it my? Is it me being judgmental? In saying I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you should wear lipstick before you go out

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<v Speaker 1>the door, or is it you know? Is it just

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<v Speaker 1>my you know this? And there should be some standards

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<v Speaker 1>like how do where do you sit on this?

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree with you. I would think there

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<v Speaker 2>should be some standards. But really, when I read that

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<v Speaker 2>Guardian article, I thought, who are we to say? Though

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<v Speaker 2>she's saying, really, that's the only place she can get

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<v Speaker 2>away with it now. And you know, they say dance

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<v Speaker 2>like no one's watching. Should we be dressed like no

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<v Speaker 2>one's watching?

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<v Speaker 1>Yet? You know, sometimes when I'm walking around at UNI

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<v Speaker 1>or shopping or whatever, I well see people in their

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas and you know, fuzzy YOUG boots and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and I think, I don't know, like there

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit of judgment. I think that if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely honest, I'm thinking, did you like, is there no

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<v Speaker 1>pride in how you are presenting yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know these days though, when you say the

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<v Speaker 2>ug boots, there's a designer line of ug boots that

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<v Speaker 2>are probably quite acceptable, track suits that are incredibly acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a different level of you looking like

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<v Speaker 2>you just got out of bed. And I think There

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<v Speaker 2>is judgment about that, whether we should or not. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we tend to judge people who look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You sort of think I've had to get myself together,

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<v Speaker 2>Whether we like it or not, it's easy to judge

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<v Speaker 2>others for that. On another note, I saw a thing

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<v Speaker 2>A woman was saying that she sort of on a

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok that she had a party where she encouraged all

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<v Speaker 2>the girlfriends to wear their quote nowhere to wear it clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>We all forget our pajamas in the cupboards. What about

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that you have bought when you think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be that person and you never wear it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's had this party. People turned up in glamorous gowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone turned up in a tight fitting outfit that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite look any good. Didn't have to didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be glamorware. But the stuff that you've bought that you've

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<v Speaker 2>had nowhere to wear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Or did it? Also include things like at one point

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<v Speaker 1>I had I think five bridesmeans gowns stuck in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my closet that I had worn once. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all like polyester, you know, and in crazy shades

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, apricot Apricott Apricott taffeta.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to wear that again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're never going to wear that again unless maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>a party like this.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a great idea. The sort of stuff though

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<v Speaker 2>that I buy every year. I will buy a dress

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<v Speaker 2>thinking I'm going to be a person this year who

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<v Speaker 2>wears a dress, and I just can't do it. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>that feels tight, like I've got a pair of jeans

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<v Speaker 2>on in a belt. But anything that feels like an

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<v Speaker 2>all like a dress, and it feels like a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of you know what a dress that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of one shape all the way, even if it

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<v Speaker 2>fits you to not have it broken up with a

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<v Speaker 2>pair of pants. I can't imagine feeling comfortable wearing that

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<v Speaker 2>you sit down your I think it does. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can wear trousers and things. I just think I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the person that buys a dress. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a few dresses, and every time I'm invited to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain event, I think, oh, I'll wear this dress

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<v Speaker 2>I put on. I just don't feel comfortable, just can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would wear like a skirt and a shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I rarely wear skirts. It's usually pants and things. But

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<v Speaker 2>I could wear a skirt and a shirt, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could wear a dress had a jacket over it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't feel right just wearing a dress. What

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<v Speaker 2>would be the thing in your wardrobe that you would

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<v Speaker 2>think you're nowhere to wear it? Stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, I think I've mentioned it before, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, there have been dresses that I have woar,

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<v Speaker 1>that I bought thinking I'm going to be person. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it is that I thinking I'm thinking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to grow somehow. I don't know what I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that that I'm going to somehow be tall and well awe,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I'm gonna aware of this, and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's often a piece like often addressed that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to look great if I was six two,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not, and I keep thinking it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>look good on me, and then I keep putting forget

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not six two, and I keep forgetting that, Amanda.

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<v Speaker 2>I buy a variety of beautiful Camilla kaf tans, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just look like a lot of people. On most people,

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<v Speaker 2>they look amazing. On me, I look like I'm an

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<v Speaker 2>eighty year old on the costa del soul and getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready to play shuffleboard or something. How it makes me look.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and they're beautiful. They are beautiful clothes. They are amazed,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely beautiful clothes. And I have I have certainly looked

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<v Speaker 1>at those and I've thought, oh, that would be that

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<v Speaker 1>would be beautiful. I haven't even actually taken the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to take put one on, because I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would be so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, often go this is the year that this is

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<v Speaker 2>really going to work for me. So I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>number of them in make up. You know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>before about when you're walking the dog, you can wear

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<v Speaker 2>stain clients, et cetera. Even if you're sitting at home

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and you put on a jumper or a sweatshirt or something,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a major stain on it, even a minus stain.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go out? Who cares? I'm at home?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, No, I cannot do it. And and and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember during COVID when there would be weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like that I wasn't leaving the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but and yet I'd be like I'd been

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<v Speaker 1>working from home, and I'd you know, pick up the

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<v Speaker 1>same track suit that i'd worn the day before, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I saw that there was a stain on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't put it on. I had to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to have a clean something clean whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I and I and I think, if I, if I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think about what I was thinking about it at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it felt as though there had to be

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of standard for me that if I had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fallen belows out that it would have like

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would have fallen in a heap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I'd be the same. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>if I've got pulled something out of the cupboard that's

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<v Speaker 2>a stain on it, chances I'll put it back in

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<v Speaker 2>the cupboard, but I wouldn't wear it. I have standards

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<v Speaker 2>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Standard absolutely, somehow the stein is going to go away

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<v Speaker 1>between this time and the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Day you pull it out of the drawer. I was

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<v Speaker 2>walking through the park the other day and the dog

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<v Speaker 2>did it, just a big dribbly poop, one that's almost

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to pick up. But I tried to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I could even get to it, little there

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<v Speaker 2>were two kids in the park, probably about four years old.

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<v Speaker 2>One ran right in front of me and just stood

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Oh, I thought, you've got the whole park.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was with Liam, my son, and we both

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<v Speaker 2>laughed and said, oh, what a fool. And I bent

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<v Speaker 2>down to try and get it, and I smeared my

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 2>entire sleeve in it. The world's really smallest pooh. A

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 2>kid trod in it, and then I smeared it all

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>over my sleeve. So in a fit of I had

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 2>to take my jacket off and rub it in the

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>grass at the at the park, thinking that that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>would dispel my situation. Did you for me?

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I would do when I got home

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>was just to take it off. I mean, yes, yes, an,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Until next time. A woman I know was a wedding

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<v Speaker 2>photographer and she said, there's some beautiful rocks. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a beach, but some rocks, and she was getting some

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 2>lovely photos in the park above it, but the groom

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 2>insisted that they head down to the water level to

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.160
<v Speaker 2>get some photos. So the bridebag grudgingly heads down there,

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and of course there's a piece of dog poo that

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<v Speaker 2>she smears all on the bottom of a dress. She

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<v Speaker 2>was in floods of tears. There's no that, there's nothing

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to wipe it up with it's just the photographer and them.

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 2>There's you know, she's trying to say, don't cry, you

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<v Speaker 2>make up, will smear, you know, twenty years later, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes later, who cares. But in that moment, just oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's going to be this amazing? Yeah? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is another part of the same story I think

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<v Speaker 2>as to where how we judge people for what they wear.

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<v Speaker 2>This a woman I follow called the cat Can Cook

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<v Speaker 2>is her site, and I started following her because she

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<v Speaker 2>was a caterer and a cork and great look fabulous food.

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<v Speaker 2>She does other lifestyle things. Now she has been on holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>She lives in Connecticut, I think, and so summer holidays

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<v Speaker 2>and she's posting stuff and she's putting food together or

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<v Speaker 2>discussing this and this, and she's wearing the swimming costume.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see her from the way start wearing a swimming costume.

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<v Speaker 2>And as she has said, the number of comments she

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<v Speaker 2>got has just appalled her, people saying why are you

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 2>on this site, Instagram or whatever in a swimming costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Your son's friends are at your home. Her son is

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<v Speaker 2>like seven or eight. No, that's just so strong and

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 2>she was so affronted. It wasn't just one comment, a

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>whole swaye of them, as if she was trying to

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>do some click bait kind of first trap stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>she said, are you kidding me? It's boiling hot, it's

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>summer holidays. I'm filming my life around the pool in

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 2>her own in her own pool, in her own yard,

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>wearing a swimming costume. And so in solidarity, a whole

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of her followers have posted pictures of themselves, all

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>shapes and size, are saying, here, I am standing in

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<v Speaker 2>my garden in my swim in costume. Suck it.

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<v Speaker 1>So wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's interesting, as we were just saying where

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<v Speaker 2>we all draw the line on where we think people's

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<v Speaker 2>standards should be. We're all different.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, oh absolutely, And I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm taking away from this conversation is I just

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<v Speaker 1>need to be really aware of my own bias about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody does come into the shops and they're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing curlers in their hair, should I care like?

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<v Speaker 2>And dogs who want to sleeve? It can happen, Anita,

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<v Speaker 2>It can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It can happen, Amanda.

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<v Speaker 2>And also in light of that thing. It's about bride'smaid's

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<v Speaker 2>dresses that don't get worn again. I saw a great

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<v Speaker 2>thing where this woman sent off her wedding dress to

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<v Speaker 2>an artist who puts together extraordinary wall hangings made from

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<v Speaker 2>the bride's dress. So it doesn't look like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a bright You don't have a wedding dress on your wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not framed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not framed like that. It's a work of art

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<v Speaker 2>that only you would know is actually something that means

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<v Speaker 2>something to you.

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<v Speaker 1>You showed me this and it was this beautiful It

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<v Speaker 1>almost looks like her I'm calling it machrome. You'd call

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<v Speaker 1>it something different. Krahmae, m krahmae.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate.

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<v Speaker 1>But this war hanging and it almost looks as though

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<v Speaker 1>it's like kind of woven with all the parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the really beautiful parts of this dress.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>There, it is beautiful. It's beautiful, and it just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminded me that sometimes upon retirement, men will have

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<v Speaker 1>their other business ties made into like a blanket or

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<v Speaker 1>really while hanging or something. It's I think, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea. It's kind of saying I want to

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<v Speaker 1>honor the you know, the the experience I had as

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, person in the in the workforce.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm done with ties and would they let the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs sleep on it? Is it that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, I am not that anymore? Or is

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<v Speaker 2>it done respectfully? Both?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it could be both, but I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how you how you see your work life.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's imagine our wardrobes, Anita. We tried to make

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<v Speaker 2>a macramae or macroma of all these things. We look

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<v Speaker 2>completely unhim.

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<v Speaker 1>We would shall we get to our glimmers, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>My glimmer this week is something, Anita, that you and

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<v Speaker 2>I both have, and I didn't realize just how it

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<v Speaker 2>was until I for a post about it. You and

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<v Speaker 2>I both have rings that are made of fordyte and fordyite.

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<v Speaker 2>We bought them when we're in Canada together.

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<v Speaker 1>We did we were going to go and get these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful ammonit this kind of fossilized rings when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in bound, but we ended up getting these four to

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<v Speaker 1>eight ones instead.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of all these colored swirls in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a whole exhibit there for fordyite and what

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<v Speaker 2>ford eyed is is. Let me just follow this site

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<v Speaker 2>that tells us here. Fordite, also known as Detroit agate,

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<v Speaker 2>is a man made material made from the layers of

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<v Speaker 2>the automobile of automobile paint which is hardened to be

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<v Speaker 2>cut and polish like a stone. So it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be more black and white, and initially dark and muted

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and neutrals. But over the years in the seventies, more

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>colored cars were made. But this is so rare now

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<v Speaker 2>because of the more efficient way they spray the cars.

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<v Speaker 2>This was all from the over spray, wasn't it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the spray that went onto the walls and hardened, and

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<v Speaker 2>they cut that down and made it into jewelry, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a limited resource. It's very rare to get it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. I remember when we went and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it that the story at the time was

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<v Speaker 1>it was that this it was this guy and when

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<v Speaker 1>they did take it all down, they had to go

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<v Speaker 1>and do it every few years because it would accumulate

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<v Speaker 1>on these walls. Is that the guy thought, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of beautiful. I'm going to take it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he brought it into his garage and then just started

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<v Speaker 1>playing with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And polishing it up and the layers of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Color, the colors mine has like yellows and blues and reds, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yours, it's sort of blues and greens and purples.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take photos of our jewelry and put this to

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<v Speaker 2>a company story, but they're just gorgeous and it's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was throw a sight saying how rare this is Fordite,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in that context, it sounded like it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be some rare stone and instead it's this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>from the walls. It's great of the ford factory. Yeah,

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>we were both very taken, very what's your glimmer? My

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>glimmer is that I recently got back from a trip

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<v Speaker 2>to Ireland and I'd never been there before, and went

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<v Speaker 2>for a conference, but also took the opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 2>a little hiking and a little and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>go and visit with some friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That introduced us initially. That introduced us initially Jackie, who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I haven't seen her in years, and

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 1>it was so lovely both to catch up but also

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<v Speaker 1>to see the place that she talked about a lot

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 1>when we knew her when we were all in Australia together,

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<v Speaker 1>and this place called derry Nown where it's just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like you would not imagine such a place.

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<v Speaker 1>It was wild and crazy and it yeah, just absolutely glorious.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was so nice to go and get away.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>But also to see that side of her life. She

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 2>spoke so much about darien Anne, but always hilariously. The

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>families shared a couple of caravans and the other families

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>were all there around the same time. They'd all go

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<v Speaker 2>to the local pub. Everyone wud be singing in the pub.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>She said that if the temperatures got to twenty degrees

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>at darien Anne in summer, they say, oh, what a scorcher.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 2>I should say that when she's living here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>But the funny stories and here here, here is you, Anita,

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<v Speaker 2>here is me saying just how beautiful it was. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't quite picture the beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great to kind of put all these places

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>with a visual and it was beautiful, and to catch

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.479
<v Speaker 1>up with her family and all that. But it was

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>really really lovely to be there. Two.

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<v Speaker 2>I like how you say you're into a conference and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do the inverted commerce conference. Sure it was

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>sure it was a Greek con of course, it was

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<v Speaker 2>that half a you and signed your name in Rackdoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, it was absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're more diligent than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually pretty diligent.

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<v Speaker 2>In case your place of work is listening, you are

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<v Speaker 2>very diligent.

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<v Speaker 1>Very diligent, And it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in Trinity College, which was o. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just what a glorious place it was in Dublin, in

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<v Speaker 1>Dublin to go and see the Book of Kels and

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<v Speaker 1>oh did you conference?

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck to you. Well that's us for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Please if we've said anything that has touched a nerve,

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad. You know, do you wear you're staying

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<v Speaker 2>close to the shops letters. Absolutely will see you soon.