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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: I was up late last night watching TV. I was

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Speaker 2: watching the ABC that investigative peace on behind the Ghost

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Speaker 2: Train fire at Luna Park in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: What a heart thing. We were in the drop zone

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Speaker 1: of being that age one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and June nineteen seventy nine, seven people perished.

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Speaker 1: Six they all kids.

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Speaker 2: Is one adult, four mates and a dad and his

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Speaker 2: two sons. So the four mates, they got on the

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Speaker 2: carriage to go in to the ghost train and they

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Speaker 2: talked to the one survived from there was five mates

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Speaker 2: that were there, one boy who was snatched from the

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Speaker 2: train before it went into the inferno. That the attendants

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Speaker 2: to know because by that stage they didn't know the

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Speaker 2: thing was on fire, so they were just loading people

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Speaker 2: into their deaths.

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Speaker 1: And so the attendants say something.

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Speaker 2: People saying the thing's on fire. But it was so

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Speaker 2: typical of the seventies from eyewitnesses, and I never I

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Speaker 2: remember because I was such a big Lunar Park fan

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Speaker 2: and we'd been to Lunar Park. We'd go quite regularly

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Speaker 2: and the big deal for us as kids was to

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Speaker 2: go to Lunar Park by yourself. And we never got

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Speaker 2: to that stage. I was twelve and I remember my

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Speaker 2: dad saying to me, well, when you're a high school mate,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes and maybe you can go

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Speaker 2: with your mates to Luna Park. And so these guys,

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Speaker 2: this group of friends from Waverley College, there was four

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Speaker 2: and the one survivor. It was just it's such a

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Speaker 2: visceral flashback for someone of our age.

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Speaker 1: It was your first you'd go there to go on

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Speaker 1: the ride to see if you're a girl, it was

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Speaker 1: to see boys. It was your first safe bit of

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Speaker 1: independence because it was seen to be sae.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knew it in Sydney. Everyone knew Lunar Park. You

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Speaker 2: all knew and you'd been there with your mum and dad, so,

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Speaker 2: as you say, you were very familiar with it. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that on that ride there were thirty

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Speaker 2: seven people, that's including the deceased. People were saved on

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Speaker 2: that ride and the heroics from the ride operator and

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Speaker 2: also back in the seventies, people didn't say anything about anything.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of eyewitness accounts where they remember in

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Speaker 2: the ride there was a fake fire, so they went

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Speaker 2: past this lady put a hand out and that fake

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Speaker 2: fire was on fire.

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Speaker 1: Was it an electrical fire?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they said. That's the other thing. Everyone

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Speaker 2: just said, Ah, the wiring was dodgy, but that wasn't

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Speaker 2: the case. And that's what this investigative piece is to

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Speaker 2: find out actually what happened.

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Speaker 1: What might it have been.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of stories about arson could have

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Speaker 2: been arson because you look at it, it's pretty much

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Speaker 2: prime real estate, a theme park in the way of

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Speaker 2: real estate. And you do remember the bad old days

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Speaker 2: of the seventies, brown paper bag deals being done. See,

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Speaker 2: it opened up a lot of stuff for me just

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Speaker 2: watching it, because I remember dad having a beer with

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Speaker 2: my neighbors. And at first when it happened, that was

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Speaker 2: all the talk about the wiring, so called dodgy wirrying.

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Speaker 2: Then later on they going, yeah, but you know they

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Speaker 2: want to put some higher rise is there? And the

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Speaker 2: word is that someone a lot of side speaking this

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Speaker 2: someone had set it on fire. So you imagine that

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Speaker 2: and I hope they get to the bottom of it

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Speaker 2: because I think of that poor mum that lost her

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Speaker 2: husband and her two sons. You know, she's come from

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Speaker 2: Warren Country, New South Wales for a trip to Sydney.

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Speaker 2: She goes to buy an ice cream and family and

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Speaker 2: she's got one ticket left. The boys go on the

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Speaker 2: ride and she doesn't know why she didn't go on

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Speaker 2: the ride. Imagine that.

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Speaker 1: But would you want to survive? Wow? I think of that?

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Speaker 1: That mad Now how old is he who lost four

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Speaker 1: seventy fifty four? Wow?

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Speaker 2: And just you there for the time of your life.

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Speaker 1: She's sliding doors. You know, it's like the River Rapperds

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Speaker 1: ride at dream World. The familiarity of that ride, the

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Speaker 1: comfort of dream World, or the promise of family holidays.

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Speaker 1: There's the tragedy and there's that bigger picture of the

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Speaker 1: sliding doors. It could have been any of us. But

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Speaker 1: the tragedy spins on the head of a place that

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Speaker 1: should be fun.

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Speaker 2: Imagine how maddening it would be to with the River

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Speaker 2: Rapids arrived. That was a human you know, that was

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Speaker 2: a human what do you call it?

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Speaker 1: A human era?

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Speaker 2: Human error? This could have been Arson. Imagine that.

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Speaker 1: So this is investigations on being.

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Speaker 2: This is in the ABC are putting this investigative piece

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Speaker 2: together and a lot of people are asking questions. They

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Speaker 2: wrapped it up pretty quick in nine and nothing to

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Speaker 2: see here. It was electrical fault and that's it. So

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Speaker 2: they wrapped it up so quickly and we all just accepted.

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Speaker 1: It makes your heart heavy, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It does with join Z and Amanda