WEBVTT - MINI! 117 reasons why you should NOT have kids! 🍼👶

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys have seen this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a list going viral at the moment, and an Australian

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<v Speaker 1>woman going viral at the moment. Fourth said list. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is Ellie Gonzalvez, and she has decided to

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<v Speaker 1>very kindly put a list together of all the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>she does not want to have children. She shared this

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<v Speaker 1>list Now there is one hundred and seventeen hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen reasons. Some are very serious I shouldn't laugh, and

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<v Speaker 1>some are very funny. But it's gone viral because some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are like the baby could pooh inside you

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<v Speaker 1>like this are some of the reasons that, to be

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<v Speaker 1>cleare the baby could pooh inside and that is a

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<v Speaker 1>valid reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Number thirty six children are noisy. Like There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on in this list. So we've got her to

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<v Speaker 2>join us on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted to ask you some questions, Ellie. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>Ellie. Hey, guys, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie, how did you get around to actually putting this

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<v Speaker 1>list together? And why did you release it? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>understand you know, I've always been on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 1>do I don't I want kids? But I've never thought

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write every single reason down and release

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<v Speaker 1>it to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, for years people ask me, they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, do you want kids?

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<v Speaker 4>When are you having kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Like literally since I was ten years old. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just ended up writing a full list of all the stupid,

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous and also serious things down to just hand to

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<v Speaker 3>people now to be like, this is why I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>having kids, and it just seems to go over people's heads.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like, I'm so sick of the question.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's such a double standard in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the response that I get back from people saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't want kids instead of saying I do

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<v Speaker 3>want kids, people who are very agreeable, but you know

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<v Speaker 3>when I say that I don't want them, people are

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<v Speaker 3>just like they're like the homophobic parents that the gay

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<v Speaker 3>person comes out to that try to change you, like totally,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very real. They try and convert you. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have no interest in sitting at a barbecue for four

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<v Speaker 3>hours talking to someone about having children.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really funny because no one would ever say to

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<v Speaker 4>someone who says they want kids, wellbably shouldn't. You probably

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<v Speaker 4>should think about that and not having it like that.

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<v Speaker 4>No one ever gets the criticism the opposite way. How

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<v Speaker 4>has the response been to this list? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 4>went very public with it. It's obviously gone viral. How like,

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<v Speaker 4>what has been the feedback?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean like it was never intended to be posted.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I've said previously. Like a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 3>took my list because he loves it and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want children, and he's like, oh, I got really clucky,

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<v Speaker 3>reverted to the list, and now I don't want kids again.

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<v Speaker 3>I up posting that on my stories, like that screenshot,

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<v Speaker 3>and he thought it was hilarious. And then everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 3>can you send us, like we want to see the list?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, okay, well, like let's post it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's real.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that's why there's just so many things in

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<v Speaker 3>there that's wild. But I just wanted to be completely

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<v Speaker 3>honest and transparent about like all of these actual facts.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people say they're not facts, they're actual facts. Google them,

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<v Speaker 3>look them up.

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<v Speaker 1>But is you'll never have fun again for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your existence.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's that. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 3>though subjective? That one's subjective?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Why Laura, can you connect to any of these because

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<v Speaker 2>you're a mum, you've had two kids. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>can you relate to any or my Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I read through the list and I was like, pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much ninety nine percent of these I relate to. Still happy,

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<v Speaker 4>I have my kids, love my kids to like so much,

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<v Speaker 4>and I feel like you always have to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>have that caveat. But I'm like, you have to, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>pood myself in front of people, lost all my hair.

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<v Speaker 4>Kids can be rude. I make food and they never

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<v Speaker 4>eat it. I was like, I actually really relate face swelling,

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<v Speaker 4>body swelling. I was like clogged milk ducks, literally everything

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<v Speaker 4>that's on this list. I'm like, I've lift this. How

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<v Speaker 4>am I still here?

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<v Speaker 1>Ellie?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just froze my eggs. And I saw this list

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, maybe I should be deef frusted, thosed,

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<v Speaker 1>but like chack them in the bin? H maybe so, well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at least at least you're well informed. But I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the response to everything was actually really wild. I

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<v Speaker 3>was never expecting it to go as internationally viral as

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<v Speaker 3>what it did. I thought, you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>hundred comments on Instagram. Won't get picked up, but literally

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<v Speaker 3>went everywhere. I think the reason why people are so

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<v Speaker 3>upset is because it's just so honest and real, and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody is used to hearing real honesty these days, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>because everyone is so afraid of being canceled. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think when it comes to this, like having a voice

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<v Speaker 3>and being as confident about what I say and how

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<v Speaker 3>it all comes across, because it's like my reason, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not reasons to not have kids for other people. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just generally my reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what, You've got one point two million followers,

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<v Speaker 4>and so this obviously spreads so wildly because you have

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<v Speaker 4>that engagement. But I also think, and I say this

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<v Speaker 4>as a mum who's someone who I love being a mum.

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<v Speaker 4>It was never something that I thought I wanted for myself,

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<v Speaker 4>but now that I am a mum, I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is incredible. But I think that it makes a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people feel maybe a bit insecure about their choices.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes people go like like, oh, well, you're saying

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<v Speaker 4>my life is crap. You know, you're saying my life

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<v Speaker 4>is not is not fun, or that I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>haven't made the right choices because you wouldn't and it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>we just need to stop taking things so personally, if

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to have kids, it doesn't in any

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<v Speaker 4>way affect the fact that I've had them and I

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<v Speaker 4>love it, like we can all live very different lives

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<v Speaker 4>and be respectful of each other. For me, being a

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<v Speaker 4>mum's the best thing ever. But there's no part of

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<v Speaker 4>me that wants me to go. You're making the bad decision.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not making the right one for you, because everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>lives are.

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<v Speaker 3>Different, exactly, and I think people also forget it's always

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<v Speaker 3>the people who have kids that say not to have kids.

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<v Speaker 4>So true, being honest with you, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it all right, Ellie. Great to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>and keep adding to that list. Post in another year

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got another hundred points on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh mate, it's already doubled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine all right on the peak up back after

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<v Speaker 2>this