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Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio right now is the

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Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin, Convat Scarlets.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to Yukon.

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Speaker 3: Good morning kid, and we haven't seen each other for

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Speaker 3: about two weeks. So we're traveling down to Camber chatting

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Speaker 3: up to all the members of government opposition about things

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Speaker 3: that affect our city.

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Speaker 1: Well, there seems to be a lot affecting our city

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Corn.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you just very quickly, and

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Speaker 1: you may or may not want to comment, but the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory government. I mean, we're just talking to two

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Speaker 1: political economists, Professor Rolf Garrettson about the situation with the

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Speaker 1: police Commissioner. I mean, however, you look at it, this

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Speaker 1: is MESSI.

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Speaker 3: I'm only the mayor, so I can't comment on government policy. However,

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Speaker 3: from our previous experience, I tend to agree with you

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Speaker 3: it could be done better. Better it was not. I

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Speaker 3: mean it's I think it's unfair to the commissioner. I

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Speaker 3: think it's unfair to the public, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: unfair the Chief Minister. And I say that one because

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Speaker 3: certainly he's not only here decisions a collective decision, so

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Speaker 3: somebody there could have the brain said look, if we're

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Speaker 3: going to go out and say something, let's say something,

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Speaker 3: not not say something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rare that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say it's a really difficult situation.

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Speaker 1: I know I won't draw you into it. As she said,

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Speaker 1: you're the Mayor of Darwin. I'm no longer a member

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Speaker 1: of government exactly Connor talking about.

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Speaker 3: Member of Parliament. I'd like to say to pay tribute

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Speaker 3: to a very good friend of ours, ex Mayor of Catherine,

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Speaker 3: an ex member of Catherine Famila. Lovely lady, great great

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Speaker 3: lady who had a great time in parliament and we

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Speaker 3: had a great time when she was a the Catherine Mayor.

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Speaker 3: I really mission. I had a very good time with her,

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Speaker 3: had a lot of fun. We used to teach each

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Speaker 3: other a lot. I used to about her hair. She

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Speaker 3: was a headdresser and it was always and Coyford immaicably

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Speaker 3: and I used to love tas in here.

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Speaker 4: But we miss you.

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Speaker 3: You were a great person and I know that many

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Speaker 3: people in Catherine and your family will miss you greatly.

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Speaker 4: Said than you.

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Speaker 2: Will the true epitome.

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Speaker 1: I think of a strong woman and somebody who stood

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Speaker 1: up for her community.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it.

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Speaker 1: Is a really good move that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a state funeral for her.

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Speaker 4: I I agree, And she did it in style.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, she absolutely did. And we used to have her

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Speaker 1: on the show very regularly. We did the Week that

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Speaker 1: was from Catherine from the Catherine Show, one week with

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Speaker 1: her and Gary Higgins and Natasha Files and she loved Catherine.

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Speaker 4: Go to the funeral because I want to pay a

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Speaker 4: tribute to her for what she is done for her city.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hang on a sect.

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Speaker 1: Let me get to a couple of other things, because

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Speaker 1: there has been some fairly serious news since you were

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Speaker 1: last on the show, including the very tragic death of

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Speaker 1: Declan Lavity at the Bottom Shop in the Northern Suburbs. Now,

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Speaker 1: we know that since that tragedy, there has been a

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Speaker 1: number of announcements that have been made by the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory government, including liquor license buybacks.

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Speaker 2: For corner stores.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is something that you and I had spoken

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Speaker 1: about before, something that you'd actually called to have happened

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Speaker 1: just weeks ago, after some of the terrible issues that

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Speaker 1: we're experiencing across to and with anti social behavior. Colm,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of this liquor license by back?

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Speaker 4: Better late than never. I think it's a good move.

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Speaker 3: We discussed that before and I know some people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're killing the little shop and to support the big outlets,

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Speaker 3: where the reality is the little shop unfortunately that were

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Speaker 3: fair for the government to buy the lasses back for

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Speaker 3: many reasons. One is reduce the availability of alcohol. Second,

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Speaker 3: get these people who actually bought the little shops in

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Speaker 3: better times out of there now reward and for the

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Speaker 3: lastest give them a riguable amount of money. And at

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Speaker 3: the same time you is the problems we've got in

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Speaker 3: of our suburbs now, the small suburbs where the small

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Speaker 3: everything else. You find another places you'll find some rundown

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Speaker 3: like in a new suburbs where there's no big shopping centers.

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Speaker 3: When you try to compete with Casurina and Gateway, you've

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Speaker 4: So it's a.

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Speaker 3: Good move for many reasons. I congratulate the Chief Minister

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 4: Go heavy and go more. I met with the Chief

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Speaker 3: With the hospitality industry.

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Speaker 4: We've got a common ground with both.

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Speaker 3: With the hospital industry, it was very surprised that they

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Speaker 4: I can understand that.

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Speaker 2: So you want them to pay for palis.

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Speaker 4: I want to.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, the floor price is a

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Speaker 3: ferfeet remove it, give them something and ask something from them.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, Connor.

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Speaker 1: Even with the buyback of those corner store licenses, you

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Speaker 1: know some sort of questioning. If things like the BDR

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Speaker 1: and the floor price are working, why do you need

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Speaker 1: to buy back those corner store licenses.

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Speaker 3: Well, because the problem we've got is a lot of

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Speaker 3: these big shops now they're very tough, and you've seen

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Speaker 3: after the tragic death of the young men, one of

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Speaker 3: the big chains have reduced the hours of sale. They're

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Speaker 3: closed down the outlets. If they can afford to do that, well,

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Speaker 3: that means they make money.

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Speaker 1: We spoke to like we did speak to Shelley Lay

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Speaker 1: from out it as a CALLI IGII, I heard it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the differences, there's a big difference there. The world

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Speaker 3: a totally different premises next to it, different division of

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Speaker 1: But do you think that it's fair for a business

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Speaker 3: Well, let's face it, the original idea was the supermarkets.

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Speaker 3: There's a supermarket for people to go and buy the

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Speaker 3: groceries and alcohol at the same time. Unfortunately, now we

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Speaker 3: Could be another change, like you can only buy alcohol

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Speaker 3: if you spend a certain amount on groceries, but I

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Speaker 1: I guess the biggest thing that people are going to

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Speaker 3: We're not ate, and I'm glad you brought that up

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Speaker 3: because my discussion with the hospitality district we both agreed

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Speaker 3: your address. Second thing we said, limit how much alcoholm

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Speaker 4: Probably they wouldn't like it. Is if you come from.

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Speaker 3: A place where the limitations are the kind of alcohol

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Speaker 4: Buy, the same with a should apply here.

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Speaker 3: So if you come from the Tiery Islands, let's say,

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Speaker 3: Tear you're allowed only mid strength beer. That's the only

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Speaker 3: they're homeless, not because they've got mental problems or breakdown

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Speaker 3: because they choose to, because they've got houses and communities

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Speaker 3: and out stations. They come here somehow for any reasons.

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Speaker 3: For example, a lot of the flood people that went back,

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Speaker 3: some of them didn't stayed back because it's part of

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Speaker 1: So Corn you are obviously working with hospitality by the

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Speaker 4: We have to work together.

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Speaker 3: This is what we have to A problem is not

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Speaker 3: Natasa's problem, it's not Alex Bruce's problem. It's community problem.

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Speaker 3: And I'm part of the community. Unless we work together,

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Speaker 3: it's give and take.

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Speaker 1: And it's just beyond the joke. Now some of what

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Speaker 1: the joke. You know. We're talking to Tourism Central Australia

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I'm violently fighting down South people and you've

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Speaker 3: they've got promis to their own capital cities with home invasions.

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Speaker 1: I think we've even reached the point though now in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory where people are actually over that analogy

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Speaker 1: because they think to themselves, well, you know, I did

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm actually yelling from the rooftops. Something has

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Speaker 3: to be done. We've been saying that one how long, Katie,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, we have you and I've spoken about this so

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Speaker 1: many times, the death of a.

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Speaker 3: Young man to finally something to that's what I feel.

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Speaker 3: Sad and sorry for the young men and his family

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Speaker 4: What we have to do.

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Speaker 2: We're all over it. We are all absolutely over it.

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Speaker 1: Con Let's move along, though, because last week we spoke

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Speaker 1: to one of the council stuff about the plans that

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Speaker 1: and potentially introducing some bike paths. Straight away, everybody was like,

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Speaker 1: hang on a second. We had that on the Esplanade

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Speaker 1: a while back, and nobody liked it.

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Speaker 2: Colin, what are we looking at doing here?

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Speaker 4: I was the first one.

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Speaker 3: We didn't like the idea of the bike path in

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Speaker 3: and the way it was designed it was recipt for disaster.

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Speaker 3: As I said then and I said again, put the

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Speaker 4: The driver always checked the mirror when he gets out.

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Speaker 3: The passes that never checked the mirror because they assume

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Speaker 3: they opened a footbath. So a poor bike rider come

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Speaker 4: So it's pedestint safety and bike safety.

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Speaker 3: Second, I want to put parklets in the city like

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Speaker 2: Does the driving sold forty k there's no problem.

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Speaker 1: The thing that's that obviously people will be a bit

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Speaker 1: with those parklets, what's it kind of mean in terms

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Speaker 3: Currently we've got only seventy percent capacity full in our

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Speaker 2: Plenty of seeing the city.

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Speaker 3: Well no, no, it's because everybody parking on the roads.

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Speaker 3: The thing is it's easier get convenient. We have lowered

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Speaker 1: Want everyone car parks live, the special districts available for pedestrians.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's complaining about the scooters, the electric scooters. Well, the

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Speaker 2: So those scooters will be on the roads.

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Speaker 3: That's what actually government's looking for. Actually move them from

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Speaker 2: That happens in other states.

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Speaker 3: If it's in design special design areas designate areas, there

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Speaker 1: Corn I reckon that people could start to fire up

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Speaker 1: I actually think the scooters are really great.

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Speaker 4: The moment these people are fire up because they're on

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Speaker 1: Path, well that's exactly right. But then once they're on

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Speaker 3: It cares to be in a designated area, not dreaming

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Speaker 1: We already see some people zooming in and out of

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Speaker 4: Interested, I guess stupidity.

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Speaker 1: But what about though, with those scooters then if you

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Speaker 2: Are you going to need to on the road?

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Speaker 4: It's illegal.

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Speaker 2: It's like the bicycle being intoxicated.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like a bicycle. If you're riding something on

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Speaker 4: You, they've got every right to breath.

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Speaker 3: They've done that before to people with the wheelchairs that

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Speaker 4: They were fine.

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Speaker 3: Here in Darwin years ago, I remember the guy was

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Wait, this is the territory.

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Speaker 2: It is a territory, Will Corn.

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Speaker 1: I've no doubt that a lot of people are going

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Speaker 3: Two thousand threes are going to be given away in

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Speaker 3: the second time this year the goid wrote is heavily

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Speaker 4: I'm working doing what beautifying it doing? Like the rest

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna be able to get that vine cross across?

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Speaker 4: That's not my cavernet problem. That's if a lot of

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Speaker 4: Get some grips that bring the great vines around.

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Speaker 1: We've got a I actually really like saying everywhere beautified.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you drive along here now at a

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Speaker 3: Terrace past the having joined there going towards the busing exchange.

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Speaker 3: So this is some of the few good things we're

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Speaker 2: A couple of listener questions.

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Speaker 1: One here morning, Katie, can you please ask the Lord

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Speaker 2: Is it going to go ahead? That's from Andrew and.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for asking me that, because there's one I chewed

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be taxpayers money, it's going to

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Speaker 1: I've got a question here. It says Hi Katie regarding

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Speaker 1: crossing behind Casuarina Square where chemists warehouses that need serious

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Speaker 2: A main thoroughfare. That one there from Chris, I don't

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Speaker 4: There's already one. You used to go from the old

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Speaker 1: But people keep speeding through there.

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Speaker 4: Now we're not going to have to do something about it.

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Speaker 3: I to put some cameras and burier cameras to saw

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Also to tell you, I found out.

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Speaker 3: The other day that during the break is the break,

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Speaker 4: And marriage will be installed.

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Speaker 2: At the school.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yep.

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Speaker 3: And also we're looking at some other improvements in the

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Speaker 3: and everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that is good news.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: And I managed to squeez quite a bit of money

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Speaker 3: in this next year's budget.

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Speaker 1: For more trees in that excellent and so conn just

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Speaker 1: on that Casuarina Square around the back there will council

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Speaker 4: Say we're amazing, my engineers. We have a little bit,

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Speaker 4: see what we can do to slow people down.

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Speaker 3: A lot of time, people just they're frustrated because they

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's a crossing. It's people crossing, slow down,

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Speaker 1: Deal with their kids getting across the road to the

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Speaker 4: Kind of responsibility from all of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, convat scarlets, the Lord Mayor of Darwin. Always

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Speaker 1: good to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: Happiest towards you guys. This is an ex sister because

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Speaker 3: we'll got toasters in a row. The Greek is there's

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Speaker 3: not this week, next week, so enjoy both.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, Good on your corn. Thank you,