1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Clearing and leases. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: How to majet in WAF you bring me some, I'll 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: make you a start. Continuing our series about our burgeoning 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: state of our movie and film industry. Right now, today 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: we have someone from the world of wardrobe and costumes. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: Angela Duncan, is with us. Hello Angela, Hello Angela. So 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: wardrobe costumes, I mean one and the same. I imagine the 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: clothing department you dress these people. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: We do, and yes, we like to be referred to 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: as costume costume costume department. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you would be I guess required very 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: early in the shoot for something, you'd have to sort 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: out everybody's individual Look. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, there's different members of the costume department. Normally the 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: costume designer and the supervisor sort of start in pre 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: and my job that I have done mostly in my 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: life is a standby, So I kind of come on 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: just before filming. It's a lot of work has done 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: before I arrive. Okay. Then when I start, I break 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: down a script yep, and then I'm sort of handed 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the costumes that have been decided at 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that point. 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, right, right, How did you get into this line 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: of work? 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Anseler? First, right, okay, and just from there. I did 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: a secondment on Men from Snow River in Melbourne and 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: just went from there early. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: Right. Have you done stage stuff as well or is 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: it mostly TV and film? 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Very small amount of stage, Yeah. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Because I guess that would be a whole different animal 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: too that you're dealing with there. 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: It is, yeah, just something I didn't gravitate to. 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: I guess, right. What are some of the things that 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: you've worked on recently? I believe you worked on The 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Surfer with Nicholas Cage. 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I did. I'm lucky enough with what I do that 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I can sort of come in and out of productions, 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: not sort of work the whole thing, So I've done 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a bit of that recently. It's quite good and convenient 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: when you have kids. A lot of my CV is 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in my twenties. For I had children. I love traveling, 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: so that's what I did. I used to take jobs 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: all over the country and different you know, I worked 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: in London, different parts of the world, so I could 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: go exploring and work of this job. Yes, when you 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: have kids, it kind of changes the ball game a bit. 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: So I'm a bit more settled now and a bit 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: more choosy. I guess, as we know, we don't have 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: studios here, so. 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: We're going to This is why you must be so 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: excited about what's happening in way in this industry. 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Definitely, I mean to have work in Perth is a 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: huge plus four something. Like me, I'm not always somebody 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: that can pack up my bags and go and work 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: three months up north or south that kind of well, 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean I guess I could. Yeah, I just kind 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: of choose not to for to have from here. Yeah, 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: so you know, to work in Perth, it's the stability 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, just opens up a lot more doors 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: for I guess people who may not be able to 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: drop everything and. 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Not everyone can. And like you said, different stages of 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: your life, you still want to stay in it, but 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: you're in a different stage. So yeah, having that flexibility 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: is awesome to pick and choose. Hey, Angela, over the years, 67 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: have there been is it unusual being on a set 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: and there's a difficult there's an issue, something's broken or whatever, 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: and you're there at three o'clock stitching or working on 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: something for running repairs for a shoot the next morning. 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: That happens all the time. Yeah, and I think that's 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: sort of you know the difference between not having studios 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and having studios. Sometimes you will come across a problem 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: on a beach or in the desert that's remote and 75 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: a shoe's broken or those kind of things, and you're 76 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: left there with, you know, very limited things you can 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: do to fix the problem. It's kind of nice being 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: in a studio where you know there's a whole worker 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: room behind you and you've got glues and tapes and 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things that can help you out to 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, save the day at least, I said mcguivy. 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: You've got to have a pretty important kit with you 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: that you do and sometimes, you know, that's very limited 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: when you're in a very remote spot, you know, where 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: you can only take what you can take. So I 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: quite like the safety of the studios and having a 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: costume department there with lots of things. I think that's 88 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: going to be great. 89 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: What about dealing with some stars, I mean you are 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: putting them in there what they're wearing, and of course 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: that can be a very personal thing. Do you ever 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: get a bit of pushback from them on oh I 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: don't want to wear that, or you know, my character 94 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't wear that. Go to you. 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens a lot, so you've got to deal 96 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: with that. Yep. Sometimes you have just ideas, you know, 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: sometimes they might see the character in a different way, 98 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's there's always a compromise, and you know, 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: it's great when you get handed of an actor that 100 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: would just do exactly, you know everything. 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Samuil, imagine Samuel pushing back, I don't. 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Think you can play I mean, yeah, it's you know, 103 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: everybody's different and at the end of the day, they 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: are playing a character. Some people, you know, get confused 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: between themselves and the character. So yeah, you know, sort 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: of sometimes do you have to remind them that maybe 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't wear that or that kind of thing. 108 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got to be a bit of a personality 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: wrangler as well. 110 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: As in the character. Someone might whip out the you know, 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: sunglasses at the last minute and sort of say, oh, 112 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think he could wear these, and they 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: sort of sunglasses that don't go at all, you know, 114 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: with their characters, and the rays don't work and appear. Yeah, 115 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly, that's exactly exactly. 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of period pieces and stuff, the costumes can absolute well, 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: they do absolutely set the scene of what we're watching. 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: Do you have a particular era that you like to 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: deal with that is a sort of a personal thing 120 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: that you love to do. 121 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say yes, because I guess that's kind of 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: refer a bit more to fashion, or I guess perhaps history. 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: I quite like costume costume, like the you know, really 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Dodge of the Jungle of Matrix or kind of Scooby Doo. 125 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: It's very different and out there. Kind of Scooby Doo 126 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: would be. Well, I have to ask about County Rapes 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: because he's gorgeous. Yeah, I actually can't really say much 128 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: that I kind of was only went. There's a lot 129 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of matricks to help with extras and things. So you know, 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of films with the big stars, they 131 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: keep themselves to themselves, which in their witty bago Yeah, 132 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean that. Apparently you've got it. You've got hundreds 133 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: of crew members around, expect them to speak to everybody. 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: Angela, what would be because we're talking about the fact 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: that the film and TV industry has never been healthier 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: than it is right now in wa and it's only. 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Going to get more. 138 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: So, what is your topic of advice for someone wanting 139 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: to get into the costume department in this industry. 140 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: I guess I feel for the people who say that 141 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: they really they try and they can't get their foot in. 142 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: I would say, sort of try to let us know 143 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: that you're around, because we don't know yourself out of 144 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: them if we don't know who you are. And I 145 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: guess that's a really hard thing for those people to 146 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: then say, but who do I speak to? Studying from scratch? Yeah, 147 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: because I guess there is a bit of a thing 148 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: where you know, sometimes by the time you hear of 149 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: a film, it's already it's rude. Yes, and these are 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: smaller films, so sometimes you only have five or six 151 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: people in a costume department. Yeah. Yeah, so you know 152 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Screen West, Screen Australia. I don't know, finding a way 153 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: of getting. 154 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: Get onto those websites, see what's happening. 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: Do little courses along the way, making context, Yes, just 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: letting us know what your skills are, what you can do. 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: That's not only just for the Whopper graduates and the 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: Tafe graduates. For me, I also think you know experience 159 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: being older. You know, perhaps you've graduated from Wapper ten 160 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: years ago, you've done some work other places. But you 161 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a skill now yet people who 162 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: just graduate won't have so even if you haven't done 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot, you know immediately, but yeah, get in touch. 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah I think that's you know, put yourself out there. Yeah, 165 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: it is good. And people who are a bit older 166 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: and have I don't know, lots of different things. 167 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, Angela, thank you so much for 168 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: taking us into your line of the whole industry. It's fascinating. 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: Costume department. 170 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you, thank you. Thanks Angela.