1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Amy Torba and coming up on today's show, Mollie Mae 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Haig's jacket, Potato Fail, Why some women are swearing off 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: men after Trump's reelection, and Our highs and. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Lows of the Week. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: But first, Ashy Biens is navigating another public friendship breakdown, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: this time with her podcast co host and fellow influencer 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Kiara Doro, who was known by her Instagram handle Ozzie 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Mum Vlogger. To make matters worse, it comes just days 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: after the pair postponed their product launch, Kate, Can You 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: tell Us More? 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Will? 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Ashy and Kiara have hosted the Grow and Glow podcast 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: for the last two years. Ironically, the podcast is about 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: having raw conversations and finding light in the dark times 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: and leveling up to be your best self. So back 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: in late August this year, they teas that they were 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: launching a product to get so, they shared a photo 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: of themselves with the caption something is coming, and they 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: continue dropping clues, even stating that the product or something 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: that has never been done before. However, on the day 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: of the launch. Instead of sharing the product, they announced 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: the launch was delayed. Ash and Kiara wrote, something has 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: come up today and we won't be able to launch 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: our new product. We apologize as we know you were 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: so excited as are we new date coming soon. As 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: soon as I saw this pop up, I was like, 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: that is bullshit, the fact that it's something has suddenly 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: come up. Like they were dropping easter eggs about this 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: launch in the days leading. 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Up to it. 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: They were pumping it up and suddenly something has come up. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: This reminds me of the Brady Bunch when they're trying 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: to get out of a date something suddenly. 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they saw that Kick had already released some 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 2: kind of hotline and we're. 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Like, fuck, this idea is not even new. Also, the 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: comic sans text written over the top on the announcement, 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: that is the ugliest text to choose. It's very like 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: boomer text. It was a rush job, because normally you 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: probably go on canvor and produce something a little bit 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: more professional. Then came the big unfollowing so on Thursday, 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: eagle eyed fans spotted that Ashi and Kiara were no 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: longer following each other on Instagram. 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Or TikTok. 47 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: Now it's clear that Ashi Bynes has actually blocked Kiara 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: because content that she used to be in is no 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: longer on Kiara's Instagram profile. So in terms of the timing, 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: it appears the falling out happened on the day of 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: their product launch. 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: That's very inconvenient. 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ashy and Kiara were meant to be traveling 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: to Brisbane together for a podcast interview and launch of 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: this product. However, if the Instagram stories had anything to 56 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: go by on that day, it appears they were apart. 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: You would think if you had a product that was 58 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: coming out that potentially you've both invested money and time in, 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: you could just put your differences aside. Like, clearly something 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: big has happened here for them to totally pull the 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: product launch. And these things happen, especially when you're working 62 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: so closely with someone. I'm sure there's been probably arguments 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: going on behind the. 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: Scenes are quite a while. 65 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: Why could I see this happening to us if we 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: were leasing a product. Well, it hasn't stopped there so 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: as she has now announced in the Grow and Glow 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Facebook group that Kiara has decided to leave the podcast 69 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: to focus on her family more. This is the official 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: messaging so as She described it as a bittersweet time, 71 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: but said she respected Kiara's decision and trusts in the 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: universe's plan for both of them. She also wrote, I 73 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: please ask you all to be gentle with us both, 74 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: not gossiping or ask any questions. We are both going 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: through a lot and stretched emotionally and mentally. Mental health 76 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: is not something to joke about or play around with. 77 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: I have a healing brain aneurysm and a bulging aneurism 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: awaiting surgery, and my surgical team has said stress is 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the worst thing for me, and I can't risk my 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: health or a rupture. My kids need me, and I've 81 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: got so much more to do in this life. 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's horrible. 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, it is horrible and A new episode of the 84 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Grow and Glow podcast also dropped that Friday, entitled an 85 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Announcement the future of Grow and Glow Now. Ashy and 86 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Kiara both appeared in the episode and were cordial, but 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: it felt very forced, so ash she threw to Kiara, 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: who read a statement out. Here's a little bit of 89 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: what Kiara said. 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Over the years, it has grown rapidly, which is so exciting, 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: but also does make it need a bit more of me, 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: especially the next year with doing live events on top 93 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: of already releasing two new episodes a week. I just 94 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: didn't see how I could comfortably fit that inside my 95 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: schedule while running another business, having three little kids, and 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: showing up as a mum in a way that I'm 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: proud of, especially with how much they've been needing me lately. 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: In saying this, I made it loud and clear. I 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: did not want to hold Grow and Glow back. It 100 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: has had so much potential and I didn't feel like 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: it was fair for me to hold not only Ashy back, 102 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: but our producers as well. So this was completely my 103 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: choice to part ways. 104 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting that Kiara has backed up Ash's original claims 105 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that she's leaving the podcast purely to focus on her family, 106 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: that there's nothing to see here. Yeah, and then she's 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: gone on her Instagram and completely contradicted everything that's been 108 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: put out. So she so she shared her own statement 109 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story, and she revealed that she was 110 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: feeling exhausted and drained and that she was trying her 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: best to chill out after a few hectic days, and 112 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: she did go along with the official messaging in a sense, 113 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: because she did say it was time to focus on 114 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: her and her family, and she thanked all her followers 115 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: for their love and support, and she said that she 116 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent fine and will not let this 117 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: consume her anymore. 118 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: But she finished up. 119 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: With I can't say much because I'm already losing so 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: much and don't want to lose anymore. But thank you 121 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: and you are so clever with a winking emoji. I 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: wonder if she's not saying everything that's happened because she 123 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: is worried about Ashe's health, but she doesn't want to 124 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: have that on her goll ji. I reckon she's more 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: bound by some sort of legal contract that says she's 126 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: not allowed to speak about her experience with Ashy or 127 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: what actually went down. Yeah, well, a lot of people 128 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: think that she's been slapped with a gag order. Ash 129 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Binds is known to literally jump to lawyers to send 130 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: out seas and desist letters. Now, this little jibe from 131 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Kiara was just the start. So she went on to 132 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: share cryptic quotes that were very telling. One read, I 133 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: no longer see the good in people, I see the 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: truth and she added the caption, Lol lucky, I'm a 135 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: strong motherfucker. Another said this year alone has made it 136 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: clear to me to not ignore my intuition anymore. If 137 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I get an off feeling about anything, I'm trusting my 138 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: instincts and removing myself. Too many times I've doubted myself 139 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: just to be proven right in the long run. This 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: is just so millennial to be sharing quotes like this. 141 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: She shared another which said narcissis be like, how dare 142 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: you ruin my reputation by telling the truth about the 143 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: things I said and did, and she added the caption 144 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: ba ha ha ha ha. Okay, I'm done for the 145 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: day with the crying with laughter emoji now as she 146 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: got in on the action too, because she is a millennial, 147 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: she shared a quote that said, you are the greatest 148 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: project you'll ever work on. Restart, rest refocus as many 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: times as you need. Well, that one seems to be 150 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: inwards looking, though it doesn't seem to be attacking Kiara though. Yeah, 151 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: but it's definitely in reference to this argument that's going on. 152 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: It's sort of those people that are like, they're so 153 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: above it. I'm so above this drama that I'm focusing 154 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: on me, which can be infuriating. Yeah, and even Ash's husband, Steve, 155 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: was dropping clues about what was going on behind the scenes. 156 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: So he shared a photo of Ashy at the beach 157 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: with the caption the most loyal, giving, kind, good human 158 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I know, and then tagged Ashy in it. Well, he's 159 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: really trying to defend her. I mean, it would be 160 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: really tough, particularly when your wife is going through such 161 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: a terrible time medically. 162 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 163 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, the podcast listeners were just not buying the messaging 164 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: that was put out, and as she had to go 165 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: into damage control in the Facebook group, which Kiara no 166 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: longer is an admin of. So in response to a 167 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: listener challenging the messaging, as she replied, I have an 168 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: episode coming out next week also. But the truth is 169 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: what Kiara has said on the podcast, which she also 170 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to go into more detail out of respect 171 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: for her family. But it's been a hard process of 172 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: emotions with the changes that has led to disagreements and 173 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: upset for both of us. So that was a really 174 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: long run on sentence. Yea, I want to point out 175 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: there there's only a full stop just at the end. 176 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: We share a lot, but for our own mental health. 177 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: I never want to engage in any online gossip, being trolling, 178 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: or risk anything for our health or reputation. We don't 179 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: need to share everything we are navigating privately. Please read 180 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: this whole post again in respect. We are carrying a 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: lot as She also responded to a listener saying she 182 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: was shocked by Kiari's behavior. She wrote, never in my 183 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: wildest dreams, but I think she'd ever respond like this 184 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: and encourage hate towards me doing wrong by her when 185 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: it's so far from the truth. I never wanted her 186 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: to leave, cried a lot and respected and supported her decision. 187 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: And yes I've found a replacement, but it was from 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: her blessing and encouragement to do so. It's interesting that 189 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: she's already found a replacement for the podcast. It seems 190 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: like maybe this was on the cards, Maybe she had 191 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: someone ready to go behind the scene. 192 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it was. 193 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: On the cards though, because they were set to release 194 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: a product together. Why did you put it out there 195 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: if you knew that you were going to replace her 196 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: and bring someone new in, Like it's just drawing attention 197 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: to it. Well, I think that the product launch was 198 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: probably the case for all of this because yes, the 199 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: podcast probably was earning them some sort of small revenue. 200 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean I never hear anyone talking about it. I 201 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's having the chart, no, So I think 202 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: that they were hoping to cash in on this product. 203 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: But when you release a product, do you have to 204 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: actually put. 205 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: In money to it? 206 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: And when money gets involved with friendships, that's when it 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: usually turns south. And as we said, ashe Bynes is 208 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: known for having quite high profile friendship breakdown. There's been Millie, Sammy, Greddy, 209 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: Nat and now Kiara. It doesn't really look very good 210 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: for ashe Byne. What's the bet that a few of 211 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: these girls might come together and do their own podcast. 212 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: That would be a bit of a pot shop. Maybe 213 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: that's a new product for them. 214 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, there was a lot of questions around ashe 215 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: Bynes's friendship with Nat Rowland. Now I saw on tatle 216 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Life that she has recently confirmed via DM that they 217 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: are no longer friends and haven't been for a long time. 218 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: So there were quite a few question marks around that relationship. 219 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: Do wonder it does look like there is a common denominator? Yeah, allegedly, 220 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: but I yes, very much allegedly. I am very interested 221 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: to see how this fares, because if Kiara has allegedly 222 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: been slapped with some sort of gag order, she's clearly 223 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: gone against it by putting out those quotes. 224 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: So I wonder if she's. 225 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Going to come out and say something or we're going 226 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: to see her retreat very quick. 227 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: I think she might retreat. 228 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: I feel like Ash and her team maybe have brought 229 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: out the big guns and unfortunately Kiara might be silenced. Well, 230 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting that she said she's already lost a lot. 231 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that is in reference to the podcast, So 232 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: I wonder why Ashi Biens was the one that got 233 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: the podcast. 234 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, this friendship breakdown. 235 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: I feel like Ash's podcast would be under her name 236 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: because she's the bigger name. Yeah, well, she definitely is 237 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: the bigger name. I think Kiara only has around one 238 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers. Ash has over a million. But it's 239 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: interesting that this podcast isn't bigger considering she apparently has 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: such a large audience. 241 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot of influencers are finding. 242 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Though. People may want to follow their lives online and 243 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: see their pretty pictures, but people don't necessarily want. 244 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: To hear what they have to say. See. 245 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: I often think that when an influencer launches a podcast, 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: it's actually a true reflection of their level of engagement 247 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: and following because back in the day it was quite. 248 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: Easy to purchase followers. 249 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: So some people can have these vanity numbers on social 250 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: media where oh, this person's got a million followers or 251 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: they've got one hundred thousand. 252 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: Followers, But how many of them are actually real? 253 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, one does spring to mind. I was gonna say 254 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: an old friend of the podcast, but not really a 255 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: friend of mine. I know, but yeah, it's funny that 256 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: these big influencers their. 257 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: Podcasts don't really have any listen. 258 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: There's an influencer who her following fluctuates between seven hundred 259 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: thousand to nine hundred thousand, dependent on how many followers 260 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: she seems to have purchase. Yeah, her podcast is never 261 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: on the charts. 262 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense funny about that? 263 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: I guarantee you. The Google search data on what is 264 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: four B movement spoke to. 265 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: A feminist movement is sweeping the Internet, gaining me millions 266 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: of views and hundreds of thousands of likes. Known as 267 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: four B, the movement encourages women to swear off men. 268 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: I have seen this all over my few page, and 269 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: it is in response to Donald Trump's victory over Kamala 270 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Harris in the US election. Now, I had never heard 271 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: of this four B movement until last week, but it 272 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: actually originated in South Korea in around twenty fifteen, and 273 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: it was sparked by inequality in the country. So the 274 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: name four B comes from four Korean words which all 275 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: start with B and translate to no marriage, no childbirth, 276 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: no dating, and no sex with men. So it's a 277 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: term that's been co opted by the Internet as a 278 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: general phrase for boycotting men. Yeah, and there was such 279 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: a huge spike in searchers for four B in the 280 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: US following Trump's win, So searchers went up by four 281 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent, and many women were also encouraged 282 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: to join the movement. In response to some really gross 283 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: misogynistic tweets which surfaced last week on x they were 284 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: shared by far right wing men celebrating Trump's win. So 285 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: one wrote your body, my choice forever, and this disgusting 286 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: phrase has spread like wildfire across the Internet. I was 287 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: just so shocked when the news came through that Donald 288 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: Trump was leading and it looked likely that he was 289 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: going to win. See, I was upset, but not ultra surprised. 290 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I just think the Americans, of big bulk of them 291 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: are just morons. Well, I think so many women felt 292 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: let down by the results, in particular because reproductive rights 293 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: was such a big issue in this election, and Kamala 294 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: was of course a huge advocate for reproductive freedom. So 295 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: it is just so disappointing to see that we had 296 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: such a worthy candidate. 297 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 298 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, one US woman, Ashley Pollard, put it really well. 299 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: She told CNN, we have panted and begged for men's 300 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: safety and done all the things that we were supposed 301 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: to do, and they still hate us. So if you're 302 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: going to hate us, then we're going to do what 303 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: we want. Another woman also about on TikTok, no man 304 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: will touch me and I have my rights back, and 305 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: some women are even going as far as shaving their 306 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: heads so they don't appeal to men. But this has 307 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: caused some outrage online because many women who suffer from 308 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: alopecia or who are undergone cancer treatment are saying it's 309 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: highly offensive because it's inferring that all bald women are ugly. 310 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Look it's obviously a very sensitive topic. But for me, 311 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that the women are saying it's ugly 312 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: to have a bald head. I think what they're doing 313 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: is pushing back on the male gaze. There are women 314 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: who are doing the opposite though, because they're channeling their 315 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: anger into workouts at the gym. So one woman shared 316 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: her workout routine and wrote, building my dream body that 317 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: no man will touch for the next four years. How 318 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: about the influencers who have been supporting Trump. So I 319 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: saw Mitch Third saying how great it was. I also 320 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: saw what a surprise Yeah, Sky Wheatley's partner Lockie Wore, 321 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: who we were celebrating earlier on our podcast, celebrating the 322 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: fact that he had won. Well, even when you look 323 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: at these Aussie influencers who are supporting Trump, they all 324 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of push this bro content online and you can 325 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: see why so many women are joining the four B 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: movement because it's a way of them being able to 327 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: take back control. And there have been so many poles 328 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: that have been released that show just how much support 329 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Trump has from young men in particular. 330 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: And it's not that surprising. 331 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: Because Trump did a huge push on the Joe Rogan 332 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Show He also got a lot of support from the 333 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: controversial Nelk Boys, who are very popular with young. 334 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 2: Men on TikTok. 335 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: And it seems very clear that Trump targeted these kinds 336 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: of young men who just seem angry with the world 337 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: and seem angry with women in general. And it's the 338 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: very far right. Like he is not just the right, 339 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: he is far right. It's not like in Australia where 340 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Liberal and labor they're kind of the same party with 341 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: a few differences. 342 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: Like he is really pushing a far right. It's extreme right. 343 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: It's extremism, and unfortunately it is going to have a 344 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: massive impact on women. And I can understand, as you said, Amy, 345 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: why they are joining this movement, and it will be 346 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this continues and what other methods 347 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: women come up with on TikTok to feel united. Let's 348 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: get into our highs and lows of the week. So 349 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: my high of the week was watching UK influencer Molly 350 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Mayheig and her sister Zoe attempt to purchase jacket potatoes 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: from a famous TikTok food van called spud Bros. So 352 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: these guys have been showing up on my fa you 353 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: page and they make the most incredible looking jacket potatoes. 354 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,359 Speaker 1: They always have huge lines. 355 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Out the front. 356 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: So in Molly's most recent YouTube video, she told her 357 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: followers how her manager friend, her sister Zoe and another 358 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: friend had made a pack to go and try the 359 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: jacket potatoes. 360 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: And it's basically like a van, like a food van, 361 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: where they basically cook the most unbelievable jackie potatoes you've 362 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: ever seen, like with the most insane fuy. So basically 363 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: we're going to go and get a jacket potato. 364 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Now, spud Bros. Isn't particularly close to Molly. They are 365 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: located in Preston, which is just over an hour's drive 366 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: from where Molly lives in Manchester, so it's not like 367 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: they were just popping down the road to get a 368 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: jacket potato. Now, Molly and Zoey proceeded to vlog their 369 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: car journey down the highway to get these jacket potatoes 370 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: when it hit them that maybe spud Bros. 371 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't open on a Monday. Let's have a listen. Why 372 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: have we not Why have you not checked? 373 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: Hold on, why have we not checked? 374 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: Because actually no, I'm blows my mind. 375 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: Moy shut up, no, no, no, no, nos somy. It 376 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: is a Monday as well, so my body's got numb. 377 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: My body's gone numb. Open open turn till three Monday, 378 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: Saturday catering service. So my body just went my legs. Actually, 379 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: I can't feel like on Instagram? 380 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: No why not? 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 4: I don't want to look like Beggy. I'm just saying, hi, 382 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: are you open to say? It doesn't it's not clear 383 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: on the internet, on the tinternet, No, just leave it, kid. 384 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Molly may be any more relatable. I just love that 385 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: she is so famous, particularly in the UK. But he's 386 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: driving down to a fucking spud van. Now. The reason 387 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: this is my high of the week is because I 388 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: loved the dedication from Molly and Zoe. They wanted that 389 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: spud so bad they still continued to drive to Preston 390 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: just on the off chance that the van might be open. 391 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what happened when they rocked 392 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: up so embarrassed. 393 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 4: I've given myself theck my life, just the whole thing 394 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: of going for a potato like and it's and it's closed, 395 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: it's there at all? 396 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: Or is it? Is it not even there? 397 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: I didn't want me to go and run and look 398 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: should we go together. I'm really upset, so at least 399 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: you put your car. 400 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: Oh only think there's Nando's. 401 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: No, no, I've got a jack potato in my hand 402 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: and now I need a jack potato. 403 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: And Molly and Zoe's hunt continued because they ended up 404 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: going to lunch at their favorite cafe where they normally 405 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: buy their jacket potatoes from. However, things didn't go smoothly. 406 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: Imagine this right, We're like, okay, spud ROAs didn't happen, 407 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: really really got lynching situation. And also ninety five percent 408 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: spog has been about spud rows and it never happened. 409 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: So we were like, okay, we'll come to our usual spot, 410 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: we'll get a jackie potato. We may get a jacket 411 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: Potato's head for post twenty five years now they'd never 412 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: ever we get and they're like, just you know, we 413 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: are out jacket potatoes. We were like, this is a prank. 414 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: Now they had to put up with beans on toast 415 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: with hash browns, which actually looked elite, but fuck, this 416 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: made my week and subsequently my lower over the week 417 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: is now all I think about is having a jacket 418 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: potato from spud Bros. And we of course don't have 419 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: a spud Bros. In Australia, but what great advertisement it 420 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: has been for spud Bros. I want to get into 421 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: my high of the week and it does relate to 422 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: last week's low, so we flipped it around. So I 423 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: had so many recommendations for new foundations because I was 424 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: calling out Max Studio Fix. I still want to get 425 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: a petition together, but luckily I have discovered, from the 426 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: help of our listeners, a foundation that matches up. Now, Kate, 427 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't look great at the moment because I've got 428 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the test on which is slightly the wrong color because 429 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: I've run out. 430 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: Of the original. 431 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: But it is the estay Lord doubleware. What's interesting about 432 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: that is estay Lauder actually owns Max, so. 433 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: That's a good point. I didn't even think of that. 434 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a very similar formula. 435 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I mean it is exy. 436 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: It's seventy nine dollars a bottle, but you don't have 437 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: to use that much. 438 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: See. 439 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people agreeing with your sentiments 440 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: around the Max Studio Fix, which I completely agree with. 441 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: The new Miller is. 442 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Shit house, but I have a hack, so I bought 443 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: the Maybolene fit Me Foundation in the Matte finish. That 444 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: is a really good jupe and you can often get 445 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: it for like thirteen dollars. So I've been wearing that 446 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: because I haven't really been out and about, so I 447 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: haven't needed the longevity of say. 448 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: The old Mac Studio fix. Yeah, I mean that is 449 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: another good one. 450 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: A few makeup artists in our group were saying that 451 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: you really need to set that really well. The Maybeline 452 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: fit me if you want it to stay. But yeah, 453 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: if anyone loves Matte Foundation, I know, I know matt 454 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: Foundation is very twenty sixteen, but that's when I was 455 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: in my mid twenty so I am sticking to that 456 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: look for me. It works for me and my skin type. 457 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: I've got freckles are like full coverage. I know at 458 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: the moment it's all about the dewey makeup. Well, you 459 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: got to do what's good for you. Yeah, but oh 460 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: my god, the color was good because it had a 461 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: bit of a pinkish undertone. The other one I was 462 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: using was very orange. Anyway, I can talk about this 463 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: for days, but thank you so much. One listener sent 464 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: me a message saying, look, don't name me, but yeah, 465 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: Este Lauda is great. I've literally in it before at 466 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend's house. It's like paint, it doesn't come off, 467 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, that is exactly what I'm looking for, 468 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: not to sleep in, but just the longevity. Now I 469 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: don't actually have a lot of the week because I'm 470 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: having a good week this week, almost going on my honeymoon. 471 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna add another high and that is that 472 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: my in laws have recently put jipbrock. 473 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: Well. 474 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, I get in trouble because my partner says that 475 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: he does all the work too. So my in laws 476 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: and my husband have gypbrocked our very ugly blue walls 477 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: in our house, and it just looks so much better, 478 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: so much more more. It was blue brick, was lee brick. Yeah, 479 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: it looked terrible. I will have to add some photos 480 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: to my homepage, which is Golden Hills House if anyone 481 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: wants to check it out. So are you going to 482 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: be configuring your loungry because the whole grand plan was 483 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: to put a TV on the wall. Yes we are. Yeah, 484 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to share because my house page at 485 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: the moment only has three posts and we really haven't 486 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: actually shared the house itself because we were like, oh, 487 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: we don't want to put too much up that bills 488 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: where we live, so we've tried to be strategic about 489 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: what we post. 490 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: But well, surely the insides aren't going to give it 491 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: away too. 492 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: That's fine, but we've been doing most of the work 493 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: on the outside. That's why we're lacking a bit of 494 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: content at the moment. Well, I actually need to come 495 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: over and visit because I haven't seen it in real life. 496 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: But I'm very intrigued. I'm getting a lot of fomo 497 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: because I would love to do my house up at 498 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the moment, but it is just not a priority unfortunately. 499 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Now my high of the week is my son Jack 500 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: has started on solids. And for many people it'll probably 501 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: be a low because it means you're having to cook 502 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: and clean. But it's just been so fun because we've 503 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: had this very set feeding routine and now it's like 504 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: a new exciting thing getting him to see what his 505 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: reaction to tasting the new foods. It's so cute, cake, 506 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: isn't me This video of him tasting apple for the 507 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: first time. 508 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he was a fan. 509 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Look, he hasn't been a fan of either of the food, 510 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: so he had puaid carrot, which unfortunately I'd ordered all 511 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: this food and it didn't arrive in time, so the 512 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: only thing that I had available was the carrot, and 513 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I regret that because literally it's stayed everything. 514 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: To be fair, carrot is a bit of a polarizing one, 515 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't like carrot that's cooked at all. So 516 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: maybe he likes something plain it. Can you do potato 517 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: or is that not really healthy enough? Well, I'm following 518 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: doctor Golly's advice. He is the messiah in my household 519 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: at the moment, and he suggested pumpkin sweet potato, peas, 520 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: zucchini apple pear, so kind of sticking with what he said, 521 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: and also infant cereals, So I've got some of that 522 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: to try. I'm gonna try that next because I think 523 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: that may go down a little bit better. But it's 524 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: funny because I said to Reese, oh, should we get 525 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: one of those little smocks to cover in it? 526 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: And recently, nah, bit will be fine. 527 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: Literally after two seconds we were like, definitely going to 528 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: buy one of those smocks. 529 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: Now, what's your low of the week. 530 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: My low of the week is it's grass seed season 531 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: at the moment, and for any dog owners, it is 532 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: a stressful time because I've got two Golden Retrievers with 533 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: long hair, and we have a big backyard, and they 534 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: always are getting them on them and I'm picking them off, 535 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: and I'm checking their paws and I'm brushing them, and 536 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: then they're all the carpet and. 537 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: I just feel like they're everywhere. 538 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you need to get them those little shoes that 539 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: they wear. Well, we've been trying to trim their paws 540 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: as well, but they've got so much fluff it's just impossible. 541 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think you. 542 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Guys could talk about your dogs and grass seeds for 543 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the afternoon, but we'll wrap things up there. 544 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken. 545 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: If you are listening and you're not a subscriber, make 546 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: sure to hit subscribe, and also if you haven't already, 547 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: we would really appreciate if you could leave us a 548 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: review because it really helps. 549 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: Out the podcast. 550 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the 551 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 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