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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: The foremost expert on Taylor Swift in this particular studio

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Speaker 2: is Digital Jenna.

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Speaker 3: Only three of us, so it doesn't say much you

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Speaker 3: and Jenna.

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Speaker 4: I like t Swizzle. I'm a fan, no doubt about.

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Speaker 3: That, but you're not a swiftye.

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Speaker 4: I know fall on swifty.

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Speaker 2: And you just said we just played love Story by

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, and you just said we should be playing

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Speaker 2: Taylor's version.

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Speaker 5: That wasn't Taylor's version.

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Speaker 2: And I forgot about because she had to go and

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Speaker 2: record all the songs again. So Taylor's version of love

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Speaker 2: Story is just it's got the banjo.

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Speaker 3: She re recorded them because she was ripped off by

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Speaker 3: her record companies. At right, Scooter ye, Scooter Braun dead

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Speaker 3: to me, So this is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So we should be playing that. And I

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Speaker 6: have brought it up without j director.

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Speaker 4: What did you say to Brian?

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Speaker 5: He ignored me.

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Speaker 4: He said, I've got some rock set with your name.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about her new album, which was a

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Speaker 3: surprise double album just in a sentence or less. Is

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Speaker 3: it musically great?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's incredible. I've been listening all weekends. It's honestly

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Speaker 6: like made my year.

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Speaker 3: I can see your faces lit up when you spoke

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Speaker 3: about that. Yes, it's called the Tortured Poets Department. What's

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Speaker 3: that title about?

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Speaker 6: So there's many theories around it. So her ex boyfriend,

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Speaker 6: Joe Alwen, he had a group chat with two of

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Speaker 6: his friends and it was called the Tortured Poets, and

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Speaker 6: so it could allude to that. But then there's also

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Speaker 6: I guess mentions of different guys and different like poets

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Speaker 6: and all that. So in the inspirational in the way

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Speaker 6: it's written.

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Speaker 3: But the title isn't a diss. She's not not dissing

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Speaker 3: her ex boyfriend with that title. No. Well, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about a couple of the songs, because it was leaked early,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: So it was leaked two days before, but Swift is

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Speaker 6: united and made sure that none of us listened to

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Speaker 6: it prior to its release at two on Friday.

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Speaker 2: So it's outrageous that was leaked. But then Primrose Hill,

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Speaker 2: by the McCartney and Lennon collaboration, they got out there

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Speaker 2: and evern't heard it, and that was dreadful.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard for people think this is Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's definitely not Taylor.

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Speaker 3: There's been lots of speculation about who the songs are about.

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Speaker 3: Talk us through some of the songs and who you

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Speaker 3: think they're about.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so I'll start with the Smallest Man who Ever Lived?

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Speaker 6: So apparently it's about Maddie Healy, who's the frontman of

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Speaker 6: the nineteen seventy five I used to love that band

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Speaker 6: until recently.

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Speaker 3: Why because she broke up with him.

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Speaker 6: Well that's not exactly what happened. He ghosted her. But

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Speaker 6: they've been in an on and off relationship since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 4: So it's a fair relationship.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So have we got a grab?

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Speaker 1: And I only then wants you that I just want

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Speaker 1: to know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have a crab.

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Speaker 1: If resting my sparkling summer was the core and that

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Speaker 1: almost would we have a good song? A message to

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Speaker 1: the smallest man who?

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Speaker 6: Yes? So the reference right, the smallest man who ever lived?

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Speaker 6: So Maddie has always been insecure about his height.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, savage.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so he's not even that short though. He just

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Speaker 6: thinks that he should be six foot but he's five

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Speaker 6: foot nine.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that song presumably is about him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and he's also described as like small and all that,

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Speaker 6: And he said that if he ever dated Taylor, it

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Speaker 6: would be emasculating for him.

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Speaker 3: Well he can just right off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah what about you? Amy?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Okay, So this is essentially a disc track about

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Speaker 6: Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 3: Should she be over it by now that was a

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Speaker 3: long ago?

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Speaker 5: No? No, no, definitely not.

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Speaker 6: So the thing is first, I'll start with the name

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Speaker 6: of it, so thank you Amy, but it's all in

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Speaker 6: lower case with k I am all in upper Kim.

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Speaker 5: It spells Kim.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think you've changed much, and so I

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Speaker 1: changed your name and any real defining clues. And one

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Speaker 1: day your kid comes home singing.

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Speaker 3: A song that only.

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Speaker 1: US two is gonna know is about you, because AH

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Speaker 1: tell me you were throwing much as it was.

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Speaker 7: Nothing, and I'm telling it it looks so small form

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Speaker 7: way of here screen to thank you Amy, so nice,

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Speaker 7: and the star signing because I can't forget away.

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Speaker 6: Made Yeah, So did you hear that line? It says

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Speaker 6: your kid comes home singing a song that only US

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Speaker 6: two is going to know is about you. So basically

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Speaker 6: on Northwest Kim's Daughter's TikTok. They both danced to shake

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Speaker 6: it off, right, but it doesn't stop there. It goes

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Speaker 6: back back to when Kanye released his song Famous and

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Speaker 6: in it he references Taylor in quite a derogatory nature,

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Speaker 6: and Kim defended him and released a video of the

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Speaker 6: phone record of both of them talking and apparently she

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Speaker 6: approved of it, but Kim edited that audio, so then

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Speaker 6: Taylor got her hands on the real audio where she

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Speaker 6: explicitly says no, I did not approve of my name

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Speaker 6: being mentioned in it, So it spiraled from them.

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Speaker 3: And how quirky, thank you Amy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, because then that line where it says it says

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Speaker 6: I changed your name and any real defining clues.

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Speaker 5: So it's obvious.

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Speaker 3: It's so obvious, so obvious. Well, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: were expecting her to be writing about her recent six

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Speaker 3: year relationship with the actor Joe Alwan. Alwan is he

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Speaker 3: in there?

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Speaker 6: He is in there, but not to the extent that

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Speaker 6: most Swifties expected. Okay, right, so it is seen in

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Speaker 6: the song which I is my personal favorite.

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Speaker 5: I can do it with a broken heart?

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Speaker 7: How sorta like is my birthday? Every day? I'm Sosia.

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Speaker 1: Like Jay.

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Speaker 7: Kay love, but I am so bad. It's you don't

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Speaker 7: know you good when you can't.

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Speaker 1: Even do it?

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Speaker 4: The book, Oh that's good.

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Speaker 3: Really, that's and do we assume that's about him?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So it kind of references him and her performing

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Speaker 6: at the Eras to us. So they broke up early

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, which is around the time that Taylor

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Speaker 6: was on her early Eras tour shows. And there's lines

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Speaker 6: where it's like, I'm so depressed, I act like it's

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Speaker 6: my birthday every day and all that, and it's about

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Speaker 6: turning heartbreak into inspiration. And also on the Spotify when

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Speaker 6: you play it on Spotify, the image up the top

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Speaker 6: is her from her Ears tour, So it's pretty much

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Speaker 6: confirming that during her early Eras tour days she was

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Speaker 6: depressed while having to.

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Speaker 3: Perform because she'd broken up with him. Yes, how don't

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Speaker 3: she have time to write all these songs?

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Speaker 1: You do?

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Speaker 6: But it makes me feel better because when she came

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Speaker 6: to Australia, she was with Travis, so she was in

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Speaker 6: a good position. So she enjoyed our shows, but she

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Speaker 6: didn't enjoy the US shows.

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Speaker 4: She slagged off Singapore.

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Speaker 3: And I enjoyed your social media over the week over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, Jenny, because you had lots of images of

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Speaker 3: you and your cat listening to.

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Speaker 6: Taylor and Funnily enough, she also released video of her

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Speaker 6: cats with her while she was writing the album.

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Speaker 4: The Swifties of Australia have made their choice. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what it is, but.

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Speaker 3: They like, you're not going to break up with Snappy

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Speaker 3: Tom now.

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Speaker 6: Is she?

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Speaker 4: It's no wreck off Normy, I'll tell you that.