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Speaker 3: How many attempts, best ten seconds of a life. And

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Speaker 2: Imagine exactly right.

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Speaker 1: But the story has a happy ending.

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Speaker 4: The story does have an happy ending, a miracle child,

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Speaker 4: if you will. We're talking about author and comedian Tanya Hennessy,

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Speaker 4: who's made no secret of her struggles to become a mum.

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Speaker 1: But now she does have beautiful little Scottie, and it's

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Speaker 4: take on what not to say to a new mom.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Welcome back to two voting dads

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Speaker 1: and one dating mom. I'm Mattie Jay. I thought you're

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Speaker 2: I was hoping I was going to say Michelle.

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Speaker 5: I used to say my name was Michelle at Barrs

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Speaker 6: Get me out of there.

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Speaker 5: Michelle bars hitting on me.

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Speaker 2: A bar is where you go my drinks?

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Speaker 6: I used to go to bars and pubs.

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Speaker 2: I'm sober.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is a podcast all about parenting. It is

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Speaker 1: the good, it is the bad. And if you come

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, thank god, I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Actually I have no we do, like, let's be honest,

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Speaker 5: Thought about how it would have traumatized her selfish, what

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Speaker 5: I remember getting home and my mum being like Tanya,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad tried to tell me that I don't

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Speaker 1: I will sell as many RIDD drugs as possible.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to comprehend to be like, oh, my

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Speaker 6: Is now looking at me and smiling at me. You know,

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Speaker 5: Because it was all it was all in my head,

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Speaker 5: Actually, it's basically feel good today, good, thank God.

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Speaker 5: So after forty years of like, you know, just doing

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Speaker 4: A do you know what the best is when like

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Speaker 1: But one thing that I didn't really think about for

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Speaker 5: Well, man, I felt so guilty, Like that's that's another

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Speaker 6: Now, Nope.

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Speaker 5: don't know whenever does it publicly, it's always in the

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00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 5: dms and the emails, which I irritates me more because

445
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, if you're gonna have a crack, do it publicly.

446
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,199
Speaker 1: What was that feedback?

447
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 5: I was more just like, well, now you don't represent us,

448
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 5: and now it's you know, and your content's changed, and

449
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 5: you're like rubbing it in our face.

450
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,400
Speaker 6: And I was like, I'm not.

451
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 5: Meaning to do I promise you I'm not meaning to

452
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 5: rub it in your I'm just I've watched every single

453
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 5: person in my life go through this like I started,

454
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 5: and my friend has a fucking seven year old man,

455
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 5: and I don't want to be forty and pregnant. I

456
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 5: want to be thirty three when I fucking started. I

457
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 5: want to have a seven year old now, like you know,

458
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 5: like I want to like I wanted the timeline to

459
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 5: be different and it you know, and then people are like,

460
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 5: you're rubbing it and.

461
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 6: I'm like, let me have my fucking bamit.

462
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 5: But I can also comprehend, fathom and feel you because

463
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 5: you are frustrated and hurt and I fucking hear you.

464
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 5: And the worst part about it is that you can't

465
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 5: reach through the phone and say I'm sorry, you know

466
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 5: what I mean, because they're angry and I've been angry too,

467
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 5: but you know, I just removed myself. Like if someone

468
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 5: got pregnant online and I was frustrated, I would just

469
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 5: That's the best part about social really is that you're

470
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 5: in control.

471
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 6: You can choose what you see.

472
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 5: But I was like block, I can't or I mute,

473
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 5: I can't watch this person's journey yet I'm not there.

474
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 6: Then you just refollow them.

475
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: It's so unfair. Fuck, we didn't, I mean, to my knowledge,

476
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: when we announced being pregnant, no one was like.

477
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 6: How dare you? And I was so like, why don't?

478
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 6: Why do why? Like I've already gone through what I

479
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 6: have to deal with this?

480
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 4: If it's so complex, can't things not have an angle

481
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 4: and just be what they are for it's what it is?

482
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: I know.

483
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I felt so, I did feel very guilty,

484
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 5: and I continue to feel like sad and frustrated for

485
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 5: other people. And I started I did a charity thing

486
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 5: where because people are like I want to give you

487
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 5: a baby shower present. I was like, that's so lovely

488
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 5: if you could, could you donate to the Quendo Helpline.

489
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 5: And the Quando Helpline is like a line that helps

490
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 5: people going through infertility, so that it's free and it's

491
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: like manned by midwives and nurses and health specialists. So

492
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 5: if you're going through infertility and you just need someone

493
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: to talk to, that line is available and we don't

494
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 5: need ten thousand dollars. And that felt like a really

495
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 5: meaningful conversation, but also maybe like the end of that

496
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 5: conversation for me, because I need.

497
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 6: To be able to move forward for sure.

498
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 5: And I feel a bit like I still feel like

499
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 5: am I allowed.

500
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 6: To talk about this?

501
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

502
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Speaker 5: You know, I just it's very uncomfortable still. In some

503
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 5: of the dms and emails, I get up like, yeah.

504
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: Because you mentioned at the start of that everyone in

505
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 4: these in these groups they want to get out of

506
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 4: that group in a way, like I mean, you essentially

507
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 4: advocated for him for so long. Yeah, I can I

508
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: can imagine how hurtful it might feel to get a

509
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 4: private DM saying you're rubbing in my face when all

510
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 4: you're trying to do is live your life, and.

511
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: I was like, I promise you, I can promise you.

512
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 5: I'm not This is not personal. It's just that I

513
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 5: never thought it was going to happen. And I'd done

514
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: all this work and paid all this money to see

515
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 5: this is like an internal work to be like you'll

516
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 5: just travel and be a rich aren't.

517
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 6: And I was like satisfied. I'm like, I'm going to.

518
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 5: Like wear heaps of ridiculous clothes, like I'm going to

519
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: lean in and I you know, I was like, I'm

520
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 5: going to go live in the mal dives bored.

521
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 6: There's nothing to do there. Literally, I'd be so bored.

522
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 5: I'd be writing something straight away because all I want

523
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 5: to do is create and make. And you know, I

524
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 5: thought having a baby potentially the creation and the making

525
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 5: might subside. No, louder, I want to create more. I

526
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: want to create differently, and I feel like my creativity

527
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 5: is better.

528
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Speaker 6: Isn't that interesting? I never sort of saw that happening.

529
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 5: I thought my mind would go into Mattressens and I

530
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: would just be solely focused on him, and I am.

531
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Speaker 5: But I've started writing poetry and I've not written poetry

532
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 5: since I was like twenty one.

533
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 7: That didn't happen to me, superpowered, I just kind of alcoholism.

534
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: Well, my anxiety is great too.

535
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 6: I'm levitating.

536
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: Great.

537
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 6: But I'm writing like I'm calling it postpart and poetry.

538
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: That's good.

539
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm writing it because I'm reading a lot

540
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: of kids books, right, and I know you guys have

541
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 5: written kids books, and I'm writing them being like when

542
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: you're reading to a newborn, you're reading to yourself, right,

543
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 5: But wouldn't it be cool if the writing was like

544
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 5: in favor of you're trying to help you and you're

545
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 5: speaking it out loud and trying to help yourself through it,

546
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: If that makes sense.

547
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

548
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: It's like tolding yourself in the mirror when you're like,

549
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 4: come on, you can read it up in a way

550
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: that like you're finding comfort in the words, when really

551
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: the book is for the baby.

552
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: But really for me, Like wouldn't because I it's like

553
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 5: messages of like you've got this and it's hard, but

554
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 5: you're thriving and you're doing it and it's excellent.

555
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that.

556
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like when I'm watching reels and I'm like,

557
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: this is also for the baby, Yeah, both of us.

558
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: My baby loves to doomcirl.

559
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: All the like the loud noises and this is this

560
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: is for both of us.

561
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Now for the dance TikTok You're day.

562
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: Poppy loves it, does she?

563
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 5: We had both had babies last year, Like, that's really crazy.

564
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 5: They're five months apart. Do you know I think that's crazy.

565
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: I still remember when you told me you were having Marley,

566
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: which was almost seven years ago. We were working together

567
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: at ten for.

568
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: Ash and for people listening. Tanya and I used to

569
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: recap The Bachelor.

570
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, did I have Marley then where she was pregnant?

571
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: Got you?

572
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: You didn't tell me either. I just turned up and

573
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: she was there and she was four.

574
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: But I think I think back to those early days

575
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: when Marley was born, and obviously I love her. I

576
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: love all my children. I love being a dad. But

577
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: at the same time, being a parent is incredibly hard

578
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 1: and a lot of what I do to my friends,

579
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: to my family, and especially on the podcast, as I complain, Yeah,

580
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: I moan about being a parent. Sure, and thanks you.

581
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: And you know sometimes when I am like fuck, I

582
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: had this day with one of my kids and it

583
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: was so hard and it all went ass up, and

584
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: you know, afterwards, I'm like, you do feel a bit bad,

585
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: you're a little bit of parent guilt. But then for

586
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: someone in your situation where for so.

587
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 6: Long, oh, I'm terrified of saying anything, right.

588
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, but that must be so hard because so

589
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: much of what parenting is is just complaining to other

590
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: people about being a parent.

591
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: But like one of the small reliefs, reliefs we have

592
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: that's a hobby.

593
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 5: You don't have that luxury as much as we do, No,

594
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: but I consume a lot of it though, like I'm

595
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 5: still witnessing it and experiencing it, but I do feel like, I, Okay,

596
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 5: having a c section was not the worst thing I've

597
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 5: ever Like people say it's like really painful, Like I've

598
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: done like so many surgeries to have her, So it's

599
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 5: like okay, And then like the fact that she's awake

600
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 5: every fucking hour is also okay because I'm not going

601
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 5: through fucking IVF. It's like I do have a comparative

602
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 5: part of it that definitely settles me a.

603
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 6: Little bit, if that makes sense.

604
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: So it's like perspective, Yeah, perspective, I guess, because everything

605
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: is easier than IVF. And I had a question mark

606
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 5: over my head that just oh, that sort of like

607
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 5: liminal space of not knowing what's going to happen for

608
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 5: seven years. I know what's going to happen tomorrow. You

609
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: know she's gonna shit herself great, like you do, you

610
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean? But the not knowing was worse.

611
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: But when you are exhausted because there are going to

612
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: be nights.

613
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 6: When oh I am cooked to day.

614
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: But then who do you complain?

615
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 6: But it's my eyes to look at you, I'm not

616
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 6: because because that's added rough. Wow, No, like I'm real

617
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 6: tired today.

618
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: Can you openly complain about parenting or do you do?

619
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: You not do it at all?

620
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if I I don't know.

621
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 5: She's ten weeks old, like I'm still almost in the

622
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 5: newborn bubble still, even though she's definitely not a newborn,

623
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: Like I'm still like luckily able to stay there. The

624
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: thing that I find the most challenging is like the

625
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 5: identity shift. That's what I find, Like I said before,

626
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 5: I was like forty years of like just being selfish,

627
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 5: deeply selfish to the fact that I was kidnapped my

628
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: sister because I had no attention.

629
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's not forget and let's not forget.

630
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: That wonderful story that definitely makes me seem like a

631
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 5: nice person, and then to have a human that relies

632
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 5: on you so heavily, and you know, the identity shift

633
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: being with a PRAM like just that identity shift is

634
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 5: really interesting and hard sometimes to navigate. But I'm sure

635
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 5: I'll get to a point where I can, like vent

636
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: if you will.

637
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 6: That point is not.

638
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Now, because the fear of you know, you can't even

639
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: announce your pregnancy without people being like, how dare you?

640
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Heaven forbid you go? Fuck, I'm pretty tired today because

641
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: last night was.

642
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 4: You wanted this exactly right, exactly.

643
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 6: You paid a lot of money for that way. No

644
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 6: way I did.

645
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: But then it's also like, I don't want someone who's

646
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 5: going through postpartum listening to this going well, Tanya's got

647
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 5: my problems. I'm an asshole. No, you're not an asshole.

648
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 5: I'm also going through it. Just remember the lens I'm.

649
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 6: Being seen through.

650
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: It's parenting. Is this weird juxtaposition where you're complaining about

651
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: something that you have wanted and love so deep, And

652
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: I guess for people who haven't experienced it that it

653
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense.

654
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: It is such a weird balance of different emotions. I mean,

655
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: obviously you love your child, but they infuriate you.

656
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 6: You see, I'm not there.

657
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you're in the stage of okay, well, at

658
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 8: the moment, it's a newborn phase, which is a lot

659
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 8: of the time it's sleep for a bit, ship eat,

660
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 8: sleep for a bit, ship yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And

661
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 8: it becomes monotonous, and I think, like that.

662
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 6: Monotony is quite difficult. I will tell.

663
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: You, I feel like a big ground all day.

664
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Tom for a second, Tom,

665
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Speaker 1: who I love, A big fan of you, are now

666
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Speaker 1: big fan of Tom. How is he finding the early

667
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: stages of parenthood.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have all the freaking hormones, so he's so

669
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 5: oh it's annoying. How Like I'm like, oh, I'm sweaty,

670
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: and I'm you know, I'm going through it.

671
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Speaker 6: My nip hurts, and he's like, I'm fine, I'm like

672
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: a funk off, do you know what I mean?

673
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Speaker 1: Got a tang at the moment.

674
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Speaker 6: I wow, can like connect with you and smell you

675
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 6: and and like that's great.

676
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Speaker 1: I reak.

677
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 6: I need a Recksna deal.

678
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Speaker 4: We're in a three.

679
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Speaker 1: Studio right now.

680
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: We're both doors like I used to like milk.

681
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Speaker 5: Horrific, but no, like he's so level Also, you know

682
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Speaker 5: what he said to me the other day, or like

683
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 5: my friend said to him, do you have anxiety?

684
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Goes?

685
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: I had it once once once. I'm like, I live

686
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Speaker 5: with it you and he's kind of once he's like

687
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Speaker 5: he gave it a try and didn't gave it a trial.

688
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: And when I like, we all were like, actually, this

689
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: is really great. I'm going to keep this.

690
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: I keep this. This is wonderful.

691
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Speaker 2: And then what I might do is I might spend

692
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Speaker 2: heaps of money.

693
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Speaker 4: He's suppressing it or putting it.

694
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Speaker 6: Like he doesn't.

695
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Speaker 5: Oh you know, he's like your mental health's well, I

696
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: don't have mental health. Like he's so level headed and

697
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: chill and like non neurospicy.

698
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 6: It's weird but so excellent. Like thank god.

699
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: If it was the other way around, I would have

700
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: divorced me a hundred times over. Like I am our pest.

701
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: So he's been amazing. And he's the state Home dad.

702
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: So I'm promoting my book Sunny and Storm, please buy

703
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 5: it currently and he's with Scotty now so he works

704
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: for me with me.

705
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: He's sort of like married to you.

706
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, like there is for it.

707
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like that's the other thing. I've got full time help,

708
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: you know. So I feel like if you're listening to

709
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: this and you're going through postpartument, it's really hard. I

710
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 5: have a full time husband and it's just us, two

711
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: people looking after one baby. So there is a different

712
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 5: level of the way I'm going through it as well,

713
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: like a huge privilege that I have him, but we're

714
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Speaker 5: working together, living together, parenting for the first time together.

715
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Speaker 6: So sometimes it's.

716
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Speaker 5: Not easy and I want to stab him, especially because

717
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: he doesn't have mental illness mental.

718
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Health ha got that rucksack.

719
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Speaker 6: Yeah, walk, but he wouldn't know. It's a great kidnapped again.

720
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, now that you are in the depths

721
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: of parenthood, is anything you miss?

722
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 6: Oh my god? Sleep?

723
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 5: Sleep Sometimes I would sometimes I would nap twice a

724
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: day just for fun. Was depressed, but I was also

725
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 5: filling the day. You know, when you're a creator, you've

726
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: got a lot of fruit time.

727
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm really busy.

728
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: Sleep for fun, but also, yeah, depression naps are real,

729
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: but I definitely miss sleep. In saying that, I've kind

730
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: of adjusted and adapted pretty quick. Also, Red Bull has

731
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: come back into the picture because I obviously trying to conceive.

732
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 6: I went ketos, I was off bread.

733
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: I didn't have any candles like, I was on natural

734
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: deodor a, no perfume, like nothing in the microwave. So

735
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: I'm eating so clean one coffee a day and now

736
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: I'm like.

737
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Speaker 4: Again, no, baby, get the vape.

738
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: No I'm not, but I'm definitely smashing the red bulls,

739
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: like the sugar free red bulls. Oh my god, like

740
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: three a day. I'm going to have a heart attack,

741
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: but I'm having a great time.

742
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned your book. Now we do love pinks. Oh yeah,

743
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: one of your ogs, big fan kids love it to

744
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: this day.

745
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 6: I know it isn't that fun? Your kids love that?

746
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 6: What about yours?

747
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Mine are more like at the moment, they want to play.

748
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 6: Oh my god, fun.

749
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: They read my book and we like, you're on first.

750
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Speaker 5: Let's the first book I read Scotty was Pink Easter

751
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: and she fell asleep and I was like, hurtful.

752
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 6: You are two days old, though, so that's.

753
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: Perfect, so true.

754
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that.

755
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 6: I good, I should advertise it like that.

756
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Do you want to put your kids to sleep immediately?

757
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Read my book?

758
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: My god?

759
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Can you tell me about Sonny and Storm.

760
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sunny.

761
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: So it was a junior fiction, so it's more for

762
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 5: Miley's age, so like it's very girl CENTRICA I was

763
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: gonna say, I don't know. I Foscar would live for it.

764
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: It's very yeah good. So it's like about two girls

765
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: best friends and it's really about female friendship. It's based

766
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: on the book or the movie Beaches, but basically these

767
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: kids grow up in rural Australia because I did a

768
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: lot of radio in rural Australia and one thing that

769
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: I really found interesting I went to a dairy farm

770
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: for two days just because I wanted to know what happened.

771
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 5: How dare you bring my IVF up? No? But I

772
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 5: didn't realize that cows have to be pregnant for them

773
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: to be able to be milked. And I did not

774
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: know that until I was like twenty six, and I

775
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 5: was like, that's fascinating and then pretty as well.

776
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know that until just now.

777
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you have to keep milking them regardless of

778
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: whether or not there's like to keep the milk coming, right,

779
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: So even if it's Christmas Day and the poll's truck

780
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 5: doesn't come to collect the milk, they'll just dump it

781
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: because they need to keep them lactating, like a breastfeeding mother.

782
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: I have to keep up your supply. Like I mean,

783
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: first of all, you would not want that job. It's

784
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: full on and they cows reak. But the book is

785
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: kind of centered in that regional space because it's fascinating

786
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: and kids live like that. It's also about kids who

787
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: invent their own language. But I was a huge fan

788
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: of Rolldall growing up. He invented seventy words, and I

789
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 5: was like, can I invent words?

790
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: You can invent words?

791
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: Did you invent one?

792
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 6: I invented thirty four words?

793
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

794
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 6: Okay.

795
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 5: So my favorite is anni vax, which means like an

796
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: anti vax.

797
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 6: No, I don't know, it sounds like that, but it's

798
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: for kids and.

799
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 5: They won't even think about that. But annie vax is

800
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: like when an animal vacuums something up. You know, when

801
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: you drop something and a and a dog licks it

802
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 5: or eats it.

803
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: Could be confirmed. Any vax means it'll take anything. I'll

804
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 4: take any vaccination, just give it, you.

805
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 6: Know, Oh my god, this is I'll give you another one, okay, okay.

806
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 5: Another one is shrinkles, which is you know in the

807
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 5: it shrinkles is when you know, in the back of

808
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 5: your car and it's like just gross stuff like little

809
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 5: bits and pieces of food and stuff that's shrinkles because

810
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: kids invent words that don't exist.

811
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Speaker 4: Right there, you go.

812
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: I kind of like it more when it's the end

813
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: of your foreskin.

814
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: You don't have one? Would you know?

815
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: You have no? Why am I getting it? False?

816
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Well?

817
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: Shrinkle Matt had his cut off at six six.

818
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

819
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we relive it all the.

820
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Time, episode one hundred and forty seven. I think it

821
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: is is my second decision. Wow. Well we always have

822
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: a segment on the podcast. Done it for a while.

823
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Things you shouldn't say to a pregnant woman. I don't

824
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: know if we've had the segment Things you shouldn't say

825
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: to someone who's postpartum.

826
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 6: Is it a good baby?

827
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: Have you got a good baby?

828
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 6: Nah, she's on meth.

829
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: She's got Yeah, she's got a real problem with that.

830
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 6: Man, Like, I never know what to say that I

831
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: know that they're going. Is she sleeping? Is she colicky?

832
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Smer every day?

833
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like she's colicky, yes, but she's good to

834
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 5: me And I don't know any other baby.

835
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 6: And you know what I mean, what's your first? Who

836
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 6: are like?

837
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 5: Does she cry a lot? I'm I couldn't tell you.

838
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 5: What's the metric for crying?

839
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 4: I don't know, do not time.

840
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: I'm still in that like newborn mom face, even though

841
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 5: she's ten weeks over.

842
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, what do you what are you doing?

843
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

844
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

845
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: Are we doing the huckleberry thing? Are we doing whiskey?

846
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: How does your smoking? It's mess?

847
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Did you want a boy?

848
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 8: Oh?

849
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: Did you want a boy?

850
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna go deeper for that? Oh my god?

851
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Are there any other?

852
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 7: One?

853
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 8: Line?

854
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Is that have been said to you by a boomer?

855
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 6: She's very skinny.

856
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: It's that face too.

857
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she's on baby zim pick let me you know,

858
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 6: we'll go. I'm gonna have another one. I'm gonna go

859
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 6: for a second. You should, you should, and you should

860
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: have them close together and have it now. Wish you

861
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 6: period back?

862
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm still I'm in hospital. Yeah, past the room, Like,

863
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: when's the next one?

864
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: He's now?

865
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: I tell you, if you book it in six weeks,

866
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 5: we could get you another one.

867
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: You've spoken about it yet? Yeah?

868
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

869
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, people, And I think the weird thing about having

870
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: a second one is I'm like babes, it took me

871
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 5: seven years to have this one.

872
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 6: I have this one when I'm seventy eight. Yeah, fucking hell,

873
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 6: not like bald one. It's a different rule for women.

874
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: Also, you know what one thing I love when you're

875
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: in a shop, et cetera, or like that happens a

876
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: lot because I like to be at a shoppings that a.

877
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: Westfields are very comfortable for me.

878
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I love it second home, so.

879
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: People go to this.

880
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: I did original radio, so I had no friends, so

881
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: walking around to Westfield was like what I did. Anyway,

882
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 5: I walk around with the baby because she's in the

883
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: prem Sure, I don't want to hold seven years. I

884
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: want to hold that. And also I want everyone to

885
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 5: see look what I made. This baby was a very expensive.

886
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 6: Have a look, do you know what I mean? Also,

887
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 6: she's super fucking cute. So we'll walk around. People go, oh

888
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 6: my god, how cute?

889
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: How old?

890
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 6: And I go forty take some.

891
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: A second, especially the boomers are like.

892
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: And then they go a bit old, get me.

893
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Away like cats, and we always in the episode Tenure

894
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: on one question, and this question is when Scotty is

895
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: all grown up, no longer living at home, what is

896
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: the one thing. Sorry, hurry, So when your baby's left,

897
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: you take you a little.

898
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 5: Just out, she said, got vernix on her, And you're

899
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: asking me when she's thrown up?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, no, I'm sorry. What is the one thing you

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: would want them to remember about the house they grew

902
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: up in?

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00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: Oh, there's such a good question.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I just hope she thinks it's fun. I hope she

906
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: grows up and goes, fuck, it was so fun being

907
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: a kid. I think that, do you Guys?

908
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: Like I always go, God, I had.

909
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Speaker 4: A good child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: I don't think she'll have any problems with that with you.

912
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna know it's going to be fun.

913
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

914
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 5: We do a lot of accent work with her, not

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00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: with her, but like I pretend Scotty is.

916
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: Like, who the fuck is this?

917
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 5: Like South African accent, Like, good morning Scotland, it's your mother.

918
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 6: How are you darling?

919
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Russian?

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00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: No?

921
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: You know what she's into generation or into inter rations.

922
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: She did tell impressions, Well I do I.

923
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Speaker 5: Do Tracy this character and she's she knows who I am,

924
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: Like I've got four acrylic nails, a wig, like a

925
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: completely different costume.

926
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Speaker 1: Is a hairdresser.

927
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 6: She's a hairdresser.

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I've done her a few times since she's

929
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: been born, and she just she doesn't go, oh my god,

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00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 5: who the hell is this woman. She's like, oh, mom's

931
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: at it again. And I've you know, been boomer mom

932
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: and I, you know, dress up for work. And I

933
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: love that she's so used to it. And I think, oh, man,

934
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna have such a good life, Like I hope

935
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: you were. Just I hope you laugh a lot and

936
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: watch a lot of good stories, and I hope that, yeah,

937
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 5: you look back on your childhood and go, fuck, it

938
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: was fine.

939
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Speaker 6: I'm going to do that for my kid, you know.

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00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 6: I just hope she has fun.

941
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for spending some time with us

942
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 4: in your busy book schedule.

943
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm stope. Like I've seen so much

944
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: of your podcast. I was like, I always want to

945
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: go on the podcast, but it's a parenting podcast. So

946
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 5: it's actually really fucking cool that I get to be

947
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: on the podcast. That's exactly so I could be here

948
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: today nobody like, you know, I would watch it and go,

949
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: oh man, I'm want to be on the podcast, but

950
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: I won't be able to be on till I'm a parent.

951
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you and I all.

952
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: Those years ago working together, that little recap, sure that

953
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: we did it. Look at us now as parents on

954
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: a parenting podcast.

955
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Thriving in Vertical.

956
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: You seem extremely happy and.

957
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 6: So fucking nice. Man.

958
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: I I was so sad for seven years. Like I

959
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: can't even however I presented myself. That's not how I was.

960
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

961
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like I can breathe that. I feel

962
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 5: so much better now she's here and she's well for now.

963
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: You always worry about him, don't.

964
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 5: Worry always, Like I am already like geared up for that.

965
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: But well, I guess as much as you can. You

966
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 6: don't know until you know, right.

967
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, even Macy just running on the concrete.

968
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm like gonna fall. It's so sad when she falls.

969
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: It's sad for me.

970
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Speaker 6: Seriously, I know, because you're like, I want you to learn.

971
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Speaker 6: But at the same time, I.

972
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Speaker 5: Again, is he like one of those kids who just

973
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 5: like hits his head and just keeps going.

974
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: I love those kids. My sister has one of them.

975
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: Lismum's there and then it's a big show. Yeah, Macy,

976
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: she's just it's just she's just too cute.

977
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 6: Do you feel differently towards your girl than your boy?

978
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I love that.

979
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: Parents them different too. It's not that I love one

980
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: more than I.

981
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Speaker 4: Get through those.

982
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Excuse me, No, I love them both equally. I love

983
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: them both equally, but for different reasons.

984
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's oh yeah, mean you only have girls, you, so.

985
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Speaker 2: You are a girl?

986
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: Dad?

987
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: There, such a good one.

988
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 6: You are such a girl, dad, You really are.

989
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Well. You deserve all the happiness, and I'm so glad

990
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: that it's all worked out because.

991
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: We really needed a guest for this slot.

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00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: So thank you so much.

993
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, thank you.

994
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: Should we keep in the part about the kidnapping of

995
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: the sister or that need to be edited out?

996
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: No?

997
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: I think it's all right. Everyone was safe in the end.

998
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Maybe that story came out because she's lacking sleep. Maybe

999
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: she's feeding Scotty right now, thinking, did I just tell

1000
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: a story of how I kidnapped my younger sister.

1001
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: She doesn't remember because she's sleep.

1002
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. It's borderline criminal, but they're in safe

1003
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Speaker 1: hands here, Tanya. Let's keep it in.

1004
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: It was a safe return. I think we're all good.

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Speaker 4: If you've enjoyed the episode, please leave us a review

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00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: five stars if you will a couple of comments, or

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Speaker 4: they can reach es wear man.

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Speaker 1: Can you please beg just a little bit more?

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Speaker 4: That's okay, just I'm not known for my begging like

1010
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Speaker 4: you're being kidnapped. You beg for me to beg, and

1011
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: then I maybe I'll beg like.

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00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: You're being kidnapped and you're begging for a review. Will

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Speaker 1: save your life.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, the kidnap. I could use the rest.

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00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,520
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Speaker 1: custodians of country throughout Australia and the connections to land,

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Speaker 1: see and community.

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