1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the sitdown. I'm viv Christie, managing 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: editor of Australian Tennis magazine, and. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: I'm Metrolope, a writer and editor for oz open dot com. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: And Matt. Why are we sitting down this week with 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Katie balta well View? 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: First of all, I was sad this week not to 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: be joined by you for this chat, but you were 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: getting a much deserved break after a huge summer of 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: tennis in January. But we were lucky enough to be 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: joined by Katie in Merida. She joined us on a 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: video call where she's competing this week, and yeah, fantastic 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: timing to catch up with her, given that not long 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: ago she won the WTA title in Ostrava to get 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: back inside the top one hundred and she looks on 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: course trending back towards that top twenty five ranking that 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: she held I think just over a year ago. 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and isn't that a fantastic start to her new 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: coaching partnership with Michael Joyce and Matt. You touched on 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: such a wide variety of subjects, from British tennis to 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: her time spent with Royalty and her Ozzie connection. Of course, 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: through Alex. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Dimino, Katie Bolter. Great to see you. Thank you very 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: much for joining us today on the sit Down podcast. 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: How are You No Worries? Thank you so much for 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: having me. 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: I am currently a little jet lagged and exhausted, but 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: I'm very happy to be here and on the faith 28 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: with you. 29 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Where in the world do we find you? Why are 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: you so jet lagged? 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: I am currently in Marinda getting ready for my first 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: tournament of this swing, so I'm playing Meridia Marita, Indian Wells, 33 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 4: and then Miami and it's a sunshine state and it's 34 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: definitely hot out there, so I'm currently trying to hide 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: from the sun and the indoors, which is nice. 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to say, first of all, congratulations on what's 37 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: been a great start to the year for you. Because 38 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: you're WTA title in Ostrava the other week. How did 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: it feel to be back in the winner circle and 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: win another title? 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's funny because I feel like last 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: year I spent so long chasing and just trying to 43 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: find my form again that I actually kind of forgot 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: for a second what it felt like. And so I 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: think making, you know, making my third to monament of 46 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: the year a title. I think that definitely felt really 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: special because it sort of just reminded me of all 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: the hard work that I put in this last year 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: and also during pre season and going into this year. 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: It just gives me such a good feeling to see 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: the rewards that are coming through. 52 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 4: So it felt extra special, and yeah, it was a 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: really good start to the year and hopefully I can 54 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: continue that momentum. 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: You've actually now played five WTA level finals and you've 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: won four of them, which is an excellent record. And 57 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: you know that not every player can say that because 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: finals come with unique pressure. So when you hear that 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: you've won eighty percent of your finals, what do you 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: think of that and what do you think happens in 61 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: finals that sees you so successful. 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: I think it's a really yeah. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 4: I mean it's interesting because I feel like I'm a 64 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: kind of player that when I find my groove and 65 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, I find conditions and places that suit me. 66 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: I think that. 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: Really shows in finals because it shows that my confidence 68 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 4: has been building and I have the type of game 69 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: that I go after it right. I'm aggressive. I'm not 70 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 4: gonna kind of sit back and just hope for the 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: other person to make mistakes. 72 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: I'm going to go after it no matter what, and 73 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to lose on my own terms. 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: So for me, I find that by the time I 75 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: get to the third, fourth, fifth match, I think I'm 76 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: in really good shape and I feel so confident and 77 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: like I'm going to take it to them completely. And 78 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: I kind of have this mentality ever since my very 79 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: first fight, so that I'm going to grab the trophy 80 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: with two hands and I'm going to go right after 81 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: it and I'm going to take it and I'm going 82 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: to make it happen. Yeah, and that's sort of, you know, 83 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: what I think about when I get to get to finals. 84 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: So that's a great stat and hopefully I can keep 85 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: that up. 86 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I don't take it for granted because 87 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: I know, I ultimately know that a lot of players 88 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: play the whole entire career without winning titles. And I've 89 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: sat here with four titles and a clay court title 90 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: as well, which would be my fifth one. 91 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean. 92 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: It's kind of completed my full spectrum of titles as well. 93 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: Like I've got one on an indoor. 94 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: Hard, I got one on an outdoor hard, I got 95 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: one on grass, and I got one on clay, so 96 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that's really cool to say, like I've got 97 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: one on every surface, so it shows that I could 98 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: be versatile too. 99 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that completeness. That's awesome. Also, I wanted 100 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: to ask you. You mentioned you've done a lot of 101 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: hard work in the preseason, which obviously comes with confidence. 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: Was it the same kind of way you would approach 103 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: a preseason or did you do anything differently this year 104 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of you know, set you off on the 105 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: right track. 106 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 107 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: I think I got a little lost at the end 108 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: of last year. 109 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: I just wasn't really sure what like my true identity 110 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: was and what kind of made me tick. And I 111 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 4: think actually having a moment to myself, which I didn't 112 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: give myself many moments last year. I went tournament as 113 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: a tournament, just trying to regain some form, and after 114 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: the whole season I actually ended up with an injury, 115 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: and I think that was my body's way of saying, 116 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 4: you need to slow down and just stop, like you're 117 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: under too much stress, take a second. 118 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 3: For yourself and look after yourself. So it was almost 119 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 3: a four stop. 120 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think it really did 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: help me, and it showed me, you know, what I 122 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: wanted and what I needed during my pre season. I 123 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: think that was so important. I had two weeks off, 124 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: I didn't touch tennis. 125 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: Recket. 126 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: I may have ended up in tennis places because of 127 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: my other half, but I try to get away from it, 128 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 4: but I just can't. 129 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I wasn't playing tennis. 130 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: I just tried to switch off from it, like not 131 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: be too much of a tennis player and be human 132 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: for a minute. And I think that really helped me 133 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: and my mindset going into preseason. And had a change 134 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: of coaching staff as well, and yeah, I just think 135 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: it was something fresh and exciting and it does make 136 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: such a big difference. 137 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes we definitely do want to get into the new 138 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: coaching staff that you mentioned. But one thing we like 139 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: to ask our guests on the seat down every time 140 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: is to take us back to the beginning and tell 141 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: us about how you got connected with tennis. How did 142 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: you get into the sport. 143 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: So I have a lot of found that played tennis. 144 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: I think my whole entire mom's side, they absolutely love it. 145 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: They live by it, they watch it, they play it. 146 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: They just enjoy it. And I think that really kind 147 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: of rubbed off on me as a young young girl. 148 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: I think when I was about four or five years old, 149 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: I always used to be at the tennis club and 150 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: my mom was coaching, and my grandpa was at the 151 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: same club playing fours with his gentleman and it was 152 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: just a very, i don't know, family orientated thing when 153 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: I was young. And I remember because the tennis club 154 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 4: was like five minutes from my grandpa's house and I 155 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: used to kind of go over to his and kind 156 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: of waste time when I was like a tiny tot 157 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: just hitting on the on the practice wall, like I 158 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: didn't really have much else to do other than just 159 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: hit against the wall, and I thought it was so fun. 160 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: I'd probably have my brother with me as well, who's 161 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: a few years older and a pain in my ass, 162 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: but he always used to like challenge me to things 163 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: on the tennis call, and I think that's where my 164 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: love of competition started. And yeah, I just very much 165 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: was in tennis. I think it was just natural for me, 166 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: and as I kind of went through the ages, I 167 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: realized that I really started to begin to love it 168 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: as well, and it was just ingrained in me like. 169 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: My family. Yeah, that's how I started. 170 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: That's awesome. So it sounds like obviously, yeah, a fan 171 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: of the game from a young age. So I guess, yeah, 172 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: were you watching Wimbledon a lot as a kid? Did you? 173 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Did you have idols that you looked up to or 174 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: maybe modeled your game on. 175 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I probably I'm trying to think of 176 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: I really modeled myself on someone. 177 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: I think I tried to take aspects of different people. 178 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: I think as a young girl growing up who had 179 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: blonde hair and loved tennis, I think naturally I always 180 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 4: watched her up over and someone who was into fashion 181 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: as well, and she's a fashion icon, so I think 182 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: we all loved how Nike fits, and you know, I've 183 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: kind of ended ended up quite similar being with Nike 184 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: for over fifteen years now, so I think, you know, 185 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: she was definitely. 186 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Naturally someone that I watched and I loved the way 187 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: that she played. 188 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: She was so aggressive, and you know, I think I 189 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: am again quite similar to her, maybe not quite the 190 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: same version of her, but yeah, she was someone. And 191 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: then obviously watching I watched a lot of Brits, you know, 192 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: obviously the Andy Burris of this world. I was on 193 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: his journey with him as a young person as well. 194 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 4: I think everyone was in the whole of UK where 195 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: we just watched him try and achieve a goal and 196 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: ultimately he ended up doing that, and you know, I 197 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: think we all were very inspired by that as kids. 198 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: So I definitely say they were two of my idols. 199 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 4: And then Serena, you know she is I mean her 200 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,359 Speaker 4: aura speaks for herself. 201 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: She is, she is the goat. 202 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 5: She is. 203 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't compare her to anyone, and someone like 204 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 4: that is who I watched as a young girl as well. 205 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: So there are multiple people I did, but those were 206 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: probably my stables. 207 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: Have you met them, particularly like I'm sure obviously you 208 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: would know Andy, but like Maria and Serena, I know them. 209 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: So. 210 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: Serena I actually have played against. I met her, God, 211 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: I met her ages ago. I played her in Hotman 212 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: Cup actually in Australia in Perth, and I was so yeah, 213 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: I was so scared. I was actually like I was 214 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 4: scared probably the wrong word. I think I was just starstruck. 215 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: I was starstruck. I was like, this woman is, she 216 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 4: is tennis. She literally is what it's all defined to be. 217 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: So and obviously her rivalry with Maria was always you know, 218 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 4: was amazing to watch and the way that they both played. 219 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I. 220 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: Managed to meet her there. I actually met her at 221 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: the Girl. I remember the first time I met her. 222 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't even on tennis Scott it was it was 223 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: when I was wearing like a Ralph and Russo dress 224 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: and she came up to me. It was like, oh 225 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: my god, is that Ralph and Russo. That is stunning, 226 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: and like we had this whole chat about the dress. 227 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, she was. She was extremely warm to me, 228 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: and I always I always kind of remember that moment 229 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: as yeah, a really sweet moment that I had with her. 230 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: But Maria, I don't think. I don't think I've ever 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: met her. I don't think I ever met Maria. So 232 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: maybe that's one of my books too. 233 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: I've seen her around, but I don't think I've really 234 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: fully been formally introduced to her. I mean I trained 235 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: in Brindington at one point and she was there obviously 236 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: a lot, but never really had a full conversation. 237 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: At twenty twenty six, autem on your list hopefully, Yeah, yeah, 238 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: me on you when it comes to your So, yeah, 239 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: you told us about how you got started in the 240 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: sport when you become, like I guess, transitioned into the 241 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: pro ranks. You rose very quickly, and you cracked the 242 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: top one hundred in twenty eighteen, and that was also 243 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: the you won your first Grand Slam match, which was 244 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: at Wimbledon, which was really significant. How did you process 245 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: all of that success, which came quite quickly. 246 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that success, it was a little bit 247 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: of a whirlwind, and it is something that I look 248 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: on look back on now as something that really defined 249 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: me as a player and as a person as well, 250 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: because that was one of my best years. I made 251 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 4: top hundred, I got my first one would and win. 252 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: That's what every. 253 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: Every girl dreams of, you know, a British girl who's 254 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: been in the sport. They dream of getting that first 255 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: one would and win and what that's going to feel 256 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: like and kind of going through those milestones are really imformant. 257 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: But I think the biggest one for me actually was 258 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: kind of right after that, where I got injured and 259 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: had one of my biggest injuries. And I learned so 260 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: much from that process of having an injury, and you 261 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: know what my expectations were of that injury, coming back 262 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 4: from injury, you know, post injury kind of thoughts and 263 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: feelings are a whole nother ballgame, and you don't really 264 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: know what they feel like until you've been through it. 265 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: So that actually was a moment that I wouldn't change 266 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: for the world because I'm in this position that I 267 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: am now because of it, and it's something I dealt 268 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: with and I'm proud that I dealt with it. But 269 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: it was a really really hard year for me. As 270 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: well as it was successful, it was difficult, difficult to 271 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: take because I felt like I was just breaking onto 272 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: the scene and wanted to really use that momentum and 273 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: kind of got stopped quite early. 274 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I think obviously the injuries belater beating 275 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: into twenty nineteen because it didn't play as many matches, 276 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: and then COVID hit in twenty twenty, which completely stopped tennis. 277 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: So you talk about that momentum, there were a couple 278 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: of years there. Even twenty twenty one was still COVID affected, 279 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: even though Pro tenn has got back, but it was 280 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: harder to travel and compete, So really there was almost 281 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: like a three year period you had to endure there. 282 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: So you know, what was what was that? 283 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? How was that? 284 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: I guess for you, No, it is. 285 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: Really it's funny because you noticed that, because a lot 286 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: of people don't really realize that those three years were 287 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: quite similar for me. Actually, I used my protected ranking 288 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: coming back from injury right before COVID happened, and I 289 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: felt like I just started picking up again and started 290 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: playing some good time and my level was increasing. And 291 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: I played the week before Indian Wells, I think it 292 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: was at one two five, and I played great in it, 293 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: and I was so excited to play Indian Wells and 294 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: to get going. And then the Sunday night before they 295 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: actually canceled the tournament because of COVID, and I obviously 296 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: didn't know what was coming. 297 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: But it was definitely it was. It was difficult. 298 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I felt like I had three injuries all 299 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 4: at once, like three years in a row, so it 300 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: was hard to kind of get the momentum back. But 301 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: you know, I'm glad that I did. And obviously it 302 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: was a really difficult time for many people. So for me, 303 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: it wasn't necessarily about, you know, just dealing with the injury. 304 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: It was about obviously everyone was struggling with something, so 305 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: it was about just trying to stay in a good place. 306 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: Trying to help other people, and yeah, I always tried 307 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: to remind myself that someone else has it worse. So 308 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: no matter where I was at in tennis, I think 309 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: you just got to remind yourself that there are bigger 310 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: problems than that. So yeah, it was it was a 311 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: difficult time, but again, as I said, it was much 312 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 4: worse for many people. 313 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: By the end of twenty twenty two and into twenty 314 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: twenty three. That's why you started to return to that 315 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: mark of one hundred that you hit in twenty eighteen. 316 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: So how different was that experience five years on and 317 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: how much had you evolved as a player? Like maybe 318 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: there was Yeah, there was probably like a lot more 319 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: satisfaction getting back there after everything you've just discussed. 320 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I kind of felt like sky's 321 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: the limit a lot bit. I felt like I had 322 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: worked so hard and been through so many brutal moments 323 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: mentally and physically that to kind of be off the. 324 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: Cycle of injuries is one of the hardest things to 325 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: get off. And I finally was off of it and 326 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: then playing a full season for the first time. It 327 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: makes all the difference ranking wise. 328 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you start building some points, you start building 329 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: physically and you're not stop starting, You're just continuing what 330 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: your actual level is. So you know, I think that 331 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: was a really pivotal year for me. I think it 332 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: showed me what I could do if I played a 333 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: full schedule. And I think I'm very accepting of the 334 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: situation that I maybe someone that gets more injured than 335 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: other people, but it is kind of how you handle 336 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: it and what you come back from that makes it 337 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: all worth it. 338 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it was a great moment. 339 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: But I also think actually went through some personal things 340 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: those times as well, and I think that really changed 341 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: that changed my perspective completely, And those personal things were 342 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: way away from tennis and close to my heart, So 343 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: I think that was something that really changed my mindset 344 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: going into going into those years, and I was just like, 345 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: tennis is not important. Our family is important. And it 346 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: kind of helped me swing a little freely and enjoy 347 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: it way more. 348 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes that makes a lot of sense putting 349 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: it into perspective like that, And I guess then that 350 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: tallies with what happened because in twenty twenty four you 351 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: had what is statistically your best season. It was when 352 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: you peaked in the rankings at twenty three in the 353 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: world World you made three finals and you won your 354 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: biggest title in San Diego of five hundred, which was amazing. 355 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: What clicked for you that season to get you to 356 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: that level, because that's like, that's a next step up 357 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: top twenty five? 358 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is. 359 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: I mean I've always felt like my level was there, 360 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 4: and I you know, you never really know until you 361 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: do it, which is kind of weird to say out loud, 362 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: like you you almost have to do it to believe it, right. 363 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: I thought I had the. 364 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: Potential to do it, and that was always my goal, 365 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: was to get the potential that I felt like I 366 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: had out of me, but to actually do it. Then 367 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: you start to believe it. Then you start to realize 368 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: what your actual level is. And when you're consistently getting 369 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: wins week in week out, that's when you realize, you know, 370 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: how far you can really go with it. And I think, 371 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, I kind of started my year reasonably well 372 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: and then I. 373 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: Stuck to a couple. 374 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: Of things that I was working on that year very 375 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: very well. I think physically was one of my biggest things. 376 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: I think it was an accumulation of the years before 377 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: where I felt like I was getting stronger each year 378 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: without injuries, and I think that really helped me, and 379 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: then I managed to really push on that year. I 380 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: think I was working with a new fitness trainer as 381 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: well that year, and he was actually Andy Morris X. Yeah, 382 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: Andy Morris fince trainer at the time, and he was 383 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: kind of helping me believe those things a little bit 384 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: more and it helped me push on. And then I 385 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: kind of unexpectedly went to San Diego with absolutely no expectations. 386 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: I was genuinely happy just to be getting one or 387 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: two wins there and ended up playing, you know, some 388 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: of the three. 389 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: Years best tennis of my career. 390 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: Like, I. 391 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: Really felt like I was going after the ball. I 392 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: was kind of committing to what I was doing. Basically, 393 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: I felt unbelievable. I felt like I would be out 394 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: there for hours. So I think knowing that I was 395 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: in that place then was Yeah. 396 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: It was. 397 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: It was strange because it kind of happened quite suddenly, 398 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: but at the same time, it was something that I 399 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 4: still felt like within me, I had it. It was 400 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: just doing it. So yeah, that was the start of 401 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: a great year. And then I think when you're in 402 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: that position. It kind of helps you. You'll naturally start 403 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: getting seeded in things, which is a whole new level 404 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: of expectation. By the way, it's not it's a totally 405 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: different ball game when you've got people trying to chase 406 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: you and take your spot rather than you've been the chaser. 407 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, the whole year, I felt 408 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: like I was the chaser and didn't think too much 409 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: about being chased. And I do think that that's important 410 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: when I played the style of tennis that I play, 411 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: and that's maybe where I lost my mentality a little 412 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: bit and it hurt me. But yeah, I mean, what 413 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: an incredible year for me. I felt like I really 414 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: used the momentum well and kept going. And yeah, it 415 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: was a special one because I got quite a few 416 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 4: titles that year, and. 417 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really wanted to build on. 418 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: It around that time as well. You were working with 419 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: You were one of the few wto plays working with 420 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: a female coach, Billyanna. I think you worked with her 421 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: for three years. What made you take on a female coach? 422 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, was what was the relationship like working with 423 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: a female coach? 424 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, Billiana was so instrumental for me. 425 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: I loved the feeling that she gave me on and 426 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: off the court. 427 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: I loved her strength, I loved her compassion, but yet 428 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: also the feeling of feeling like I had a second mother. 429 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: You know, I think I see these people as you know, 430 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: when you're part of me teen, you're part of my family, 431 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: Like I see them as being really close. 432 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: She spent breakfast, lunch, dinner with them. They mean a 433 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: lot to me. So I'm not really someone that kind 434 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 3: of goes through a lot of people. 435 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 4: So to start working with Billiano was one of the 436 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: best things that I think I did. I think she 437 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: had a very unique coaching style, so for me, it 438 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: kind of instantly clicked, and I think we were on 439 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 4: the same sort of line with things, so that definitely 440 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: helped me massively. You know, I think she was working 441 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: with the ALTA at the time, and I sort of 442 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 4: was crossing over between her and Jeremy Bates for one 443 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: of the years, and then I think I got to 444 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: the point that I just loved working with Billiana so 445 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 4: much that we went full to and yeah, I mean 446 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: she she helped me kind of get to one of 447 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: my well, my career high ranking and we went through 448 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: many milestones together. 449 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: But it felt really good having a female coach. 450 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: Obviously there's not many more, you know, many out there, 451 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: and it was actually, you know before that the only 452 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: female coach I would have had was my mum so 453 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: and she was probably one of the first people to 454 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: bring me into tennis. So it felt very familiar. And yeah, 455 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: I really did I really did like it. 456 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: And as you alluded to earlier, you've had a coaching 457 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: personnel change. You see, You've started working with Michael Joyce. 458 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: He is famous for working with Sharapova and also Jess 459 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: Pagoula and a lot of other top WTA players. So 460 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: what perspective has he brought to your game? I guess 461 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: now in the second, second, or third month of working with. 462 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, I think. Look, I mean, I think a 463 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: sense of calm is probably the biggest thing that I 464 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 4: found working with him. I think he is very experienced. 465 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: I always said to myself that I felt like I 466 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: could get my ranking back up. Obviously, having dropped down 467 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: the rankings end of last year, it was obviously a 468 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: goal to get myself back to a good place again, 469 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: and that was my first goal and above anything else. 470 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: But then my second goal was when I do get 471 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: to that point, I wanted someone. 472 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: That could take me further. 473 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: I wanted someone that had been in that position before, 474 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 4: winning slams and doing well in the bigger weeks, and 475 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: I think that was a huge reason why I wanted 476 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: to speak to him. Obviously, the timing happened to be 477 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: that they that he'd finished with the player that he 478 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: was working with and they'd split. 479 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: So it was it was just a timing thing. I 480 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: think that really kind of worked. 481 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 4: I'd seen him around a lot and I felt like 482 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: I liked his kind of aura, and you know, I 483 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: thought he was a good guy, so I really wanted 484 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: to try it and see what he was like in 485 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: the team. But I think for me, it's nice to 486 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: have a sense ofcom and someone that you feel like 487 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: believes in you and has, you know, paid the game himself, 488 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 4: so he knows what he's kind of looking to improve 489 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: and looking to do as a player. I always find 490 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 4: that really interesting to hear those things. And yeah, I 491 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: think he has a really good way of coreaching. So 492 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: I'm in Trine drows is still very early on. It's 493 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: working so far, and we'll see how we go. 494 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely very promising. Signs early back to when you 495 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: cracked the top twenty five. That actually was quite historic 496 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: for British tennis that we went back and had a 497 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: look and you were just I'm not sure if you 498 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: know this, but you were only the fourth British woman 499 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: in like the last forty years to do that. So 500 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: there was Joe Jury in the eighties and then there 501 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: was Joe Conta, Emma Rajakanu and you. So how meaningful 502 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: was that to yeah, join I think, I guess, yeah, 503 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: some like great British names doing something that not many 504 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: have done. 505 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I. 506 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really cool stay. I didn't know that, 507 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: so that's fun. 508 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: We love a stat Yeah, we love. 509 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: A stat exactly. 510 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: I started my career actually with Djoko being one of 511 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: the leading ladies and I always remember being so inspired 512 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: watching her. And it's funny because she worked with Michael, 513 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: so it's actually probably the first time that I ever 514 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: met Michael was out in toc when he was working 515 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: with Jogo, so it's like it's kind of like a 516 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: full circle thing. It's strange, but yeah, I mean she's 517 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: incredible and what she managed to achieve, and actually she 518 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: was someone that kind of did it quite late as well, 519 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of resonated with me because 520 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't, you know, the very first person as sixteen 521 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: years old to come and win three slams. Like I 522 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: was never going to be that person. I was kind 523 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: of like a ticking time bomb. I needed a bit 524 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: of time to kind of get my groove and then 525 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: hopefully do well, you know, like it took me a 526 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: bit of time to be a bit later. And I 527 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 4: think that's the journey in the beauty of tennis, is 528 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: that there's no right way or wrong way rights. It's 529 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: just very personal and every persons different. And I happened 530 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 4: to be someone that took a while. So actually, Joco 531 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: was someone I really watched a lot of because I 532 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: felt like I be very much like her, and she 533 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: came through late and then you know, she was top ten, 534 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: and yeah, it was so impressive to see her run. 535 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: So I always had a lot of admiration for her. 536 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: And then obviously going into like Emma and what she did, 537 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't even have word 538 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 4: spirit it was. I mean, it was magical. Is no 539 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: one like I don't even have words to describe what 540 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: that was. That was just something else that will never 541 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: be replicated with tennis. And yeah, what a truly special 542 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 4: moment that was. So to be a part of those people, 543 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that's pretty awesome. Obviously I know Joe Jory 544 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: as well. I've been on the court with Joe a 545 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: few times as well, So pretty cool. And yeah, I'm 546 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: obviously happy to be a part of that group and 547 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: to have made top twenty five. 548 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: I want more, but it was really cool. 549 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well there's a group of you trending up now. 550 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 2: British women's tennis seems to be in a pretty strong 551 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: place because obviously Emma's back in the top thirty, You've 552 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: returned to the top one hundred after Ostrava and now 553 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: sun A Cartel in the top one hundred. Friend Jones 554 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: is on the rise. So there's four of you and 555 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: more coming. What's the mood like around British tennis or 556 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: British women's tennis at the moment. 557 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but if Shannis in general, I feel 558 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 4: like we've been improving for a while. I think it's 559 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: like one of those things that we're secretly improving, you know, 560 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: we kind of all just get to work and do 561 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: what we need to do behind the scenes. And you know, 562 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: I also know that there's going to be a lot 563 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 4: of pressure and a lot of a lot of eyes 564 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: on British girls in general, which you know that probably 565 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: not as much on some other people around Wimbledon times. 566 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 4: So there's always going to be a lot of opinions on, 567 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: you know, how well we're doing and how we're not. 568 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, for me myself, I kind 569 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: of just focus on myself and try and keep myself 570 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: in my own little bubble and keep improving and take 571 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: care of my own backyard. 572 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: I think that's so important. 573 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: But I think as a whole, it's so great to 574 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: see the girls doing so well. 575 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: I've loved seeing son Ay. She is so fun to watch. 576 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: I saw her win her first tight and I mean, 577 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean, I'm so happy for her. She's 578 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: a great person, let alone great tennis player, and I 579 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: you know, I'm never going to put pressure on her, 580 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: but I genuinely think she's going to be She's going 581 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: to be a really really good tennis byer. She's already 582 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: a great one, but I think she's got a lot 583 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: of a lot of miles to go, and I. 584 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Think she's going to get better and better. 585 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm very pleased to see her doing well 586 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: and obviously Fran as well. 587 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: One incredible story. 588 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: That is, I mean, what she is doing is you know, 589 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: it's not comparable to anything else. I mean, you know, 590 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: with what she has, it's it's, yeah, an inspiration to 591 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: everyone to show people what can be done, and there 592 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: literally are no limits. So I'm yeah, it's so great 593 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 4: to see her doing well and obviously being back where 594 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: she belongs, and she'll only get higher. So yeah, I 595 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: feel like we're in a great place and we are 596 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: starting to push people and get more and more people 597 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: in the top handond and I'm sure there'll be a 598 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: few more youngsters coming along soon. Obviously we've got a 599 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: great group of girls coming through Hannah, Meeka, mem I mean, 600 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: the list is pretty long. So yeah, great to see 601 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: that we are really coming through somewhere and yeah, getting 602 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: what we deserve. But yeah, obviously we've got to keep 603 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: working hard and keep maintaining what we're doing, and I 604 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: hope that everyone gets what they deserve. 605 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: Well. 606 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: We're taking a particularly keen interest in what's going on 607 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: in British women's tennis because Australia play Great Britain in 608 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: Billy Drinking Cup in two months time down here in Melbourne. Yes, 609 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: and this is obviously a competition you're. Part of your 610 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: career story is how well you've performed in Billy Jinking 611 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: Cup for Great Britain. Your record's very positive. Can we 612 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: expect to see you down in Melbourne in April. 613 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give my secrets away. 614 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 5: I mean no, I mean look, I mean I am 615 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 5: very much enemies of Australia right now. 616 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: I love you guys, but I'm not giving anything away. 617 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 5: We will have a great team out ready for Australia 618 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: no matter what. So we'll be ready regardless of who's 619 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: playing and who isn't. So yeah, I mean look, it's 620 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 5: going to be a super fun tie. We always love 621 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: playing Australia. 622 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: We have battles with them and no matter what happens, yeah, 623 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 4: it's it'll be a good one. 624 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: It'll be a show for sure. 625 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: I will get to the Australia connection towards the end. 626 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to ask you one more thing. 627 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: Being a British player and having Wimbledon, which is obviously 628 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: off the Slams, it's so unique and historic like having 629 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: that as your home Slam. What is that like as 630 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: a as a pro tennis player. 631 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: Honestly, I can't even describe it to you because I 632 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: feel so privileged. 633 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: I feel so lucky to be a British player at Wimbledon. 634 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: It's it's a presence that you feel when you walk 635 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 4: onto the grounds. And also to know that it's part 636 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: of your history, it's part of the country's history. It 637 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: kind of adds a level on top of that, which is, yeah, 638 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: it's very very special. I mean I never take for 639 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: granted walking onto the grounds. I actually train a lot 640 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: there myself. I'm lucky enough to be a member there, 641 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: so I spend as much as I possibly can every 642 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: single day at the center because I just I think 643 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 4: it just adds a level of I don't even know, 644 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: it adds a level of excitement and happiness just to 645 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: be there. 646 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: It's almost like mental happy place. So yeah, I can't 647 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: explain this. 648 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: Like to have a full British crab roaring for you 649 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: on centre court, that's something that I actually get like 650 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: goosebumps and tingles when I think about that. I just yeah, 651 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously there's a few people that have definitely 652 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: experienced it, but I mean, yeah, it'll go up there 653 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: as some of the best best moments of my life 654 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: for sure, being on that court and what an iconic 655 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: core is as well. You know, I've I watched so 656 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: many matches there from my childhood, so all means that 657 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 4: much more knowing that, you know, I'm lucky enough to 658 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: have stepped onto that court and played as well and 659 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: actually got some of my best wins there. 660 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: And also Wimbledon, there was that famous moment where you 661 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: sat with Princess Catherine. I think that was in twenty nineteen. 662 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: She might have been watching Harriet play and then she 663 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: came and watched you play a couple of days later. 664 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: Tell us about that connection, because that's pretty cool. 665 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a really that was quite a surreal 666 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: moment because obviously I actually never met her at that 667 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: point before, and I got kind of got a phone 668 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: call from one of the like the wind Wooden, yeah, 669 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: the wim Wooden committee there, and they asked me if 670 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: I would like to sit and keep her accompany her 671 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 4: to watch a match. And I actually had had quite 672 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: a difficult time with my back that was right before that, 673 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: so I'd been struggling. I'd been struggling with my body 674 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: and what have you, and I was in quite quite 675 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: a tough place and to actually get the opportunity to 676 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: do that and to experience something like that was, Yeah, 677 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: it was. 678 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: It was a moment I remember, that's for sure. 679 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: I just remember speaking to her, and you know, just 680 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: the way that she was talking about tennis. You could 681 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: see the passion that she had, and I think those 682 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: are the types of people that you know, you want 683 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: to have conversations with because you share so much in common. 684 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, it felt like a real life moment where 685 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I'm a princess. I'm literally sitting next 686 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: to a princess. So yeah, it was. It was not 687 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: an everyday kind of thing, that's for sure. It was 688 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: not an everyday thing. And yeah, I just remember how 689 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: pretty and stunning she was. I was just like in awe, literally. 690 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love that story. You alluded to it before. 691 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Obviously you're not enemy number one in Australia, but there 692 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: is that connection you have with Australia because of your 693 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: relationship with Alex Steamen all. How would with that him 694 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: being your fiancee Howard home do you feel when you 695 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 2: come to Australia given that it's his country. 696 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the last few years have been I 697 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: mean I've kind of been able to share. 698 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: Share a lot of great memories with Alex in Australia 699 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: because it's. 700 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: Where we first met as well, so I feel like we. 701 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: Have so many happy places there and then to be 702 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: able to share that with everyone. Obviously, last year after 703 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: getting engaged, or yet for last getting engaged, I felt 704 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: so like indoctrinated by the Australian public. I felt like 705 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: everyone was right behind me. I felt I don't know, 706 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 4: I felt so special. I don't know, it sounds crazy, 707 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: but I felt really Yeah, it was so sweet to 708 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: kind of see people come out and just because of 709 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: my affiliation with him and just to support me, it 710 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: meant a lot to me actually, And I see it 711 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: as like my second home, which is probably the nicest 712 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: thing about it. I get to start my season at 713 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: my second home, and I don't take that, you know, 714 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: I don't take that for granted at any point, Like, 715 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: I love going back there, and obviously it's very special 716 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: because of him, And yeah, we've obviously had a couple 717 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: of years in a row where we played United Cup 718 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: against each other, which was also really difficult, and playing 719 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 4: against Australia, I always found it really difficult myself, and 720 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: you know, against him especially. You know, it was a 721 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 4: very unique situation that I don't think anyone's really been 722 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 4: in before. 723 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: So I didn't love that part of it, But the 724 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: rest of my time in Australia I have absolutely loved. 725 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I do. I do feel like I've been 726 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: welcomed above and beyond. 727 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we love to hear that. Is there anything particularly 728 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 2: Australian that you love to do? Like we always you know, 729 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: there's the cliched one like you eat veggimi and you 730 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: like it, or these you know, we have our beach 731 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: culture or whatever. Is there anything kind of Australian that 732 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: you feel you've really connected with or embraced. 733 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: Don't don't even talk to me about reggimi. 734 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 4: I'm never going to be a Veggimi girl, but I'm 735 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: certainly a Timtom girl. 736 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 3: I like, I'm all into them. 737 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: Like when I got home, I literally find the Australian 738 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: cafes in London just to find Tim Towns. 739 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: I have issues, I know, So I have definitely embraced 740 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: that side of the culture, the food. I again I 741 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: love I love the food. 742 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: I'm such a coffee branch averab sick girl, so I 743 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: love everything that you have Melbourne Sydney. 744 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I very much fit right into it. 745 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I like that side of it, but honestly 746 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm still exploring. 747 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: Like I went to Sydney last year for the first 748 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 4: time with Alex, so I actually got to see where 749 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: he grew up, which was I actually loved that moment 750 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: because I'd never really been there before with him. I'd 751 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: been there but like years ago when I was a child, 752 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: and I felt like actually him being able to show 753 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: me places that meant a lot to him was a 754 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: really special special time for me because it meant a lot. 755 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: You know, he loves obviously going to the beach and. 756 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: Barbecues and all sorts of stuff, so I think it 757 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 4: was it was nice to see what meant a lot 758 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: to him in the Australian culture, and you know, I 759 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 4: think we're very similar in the way that we tend 760 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: to like the same things. So yeah, I absolutely loved 761 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: spending time on Australia. 762 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: I wanted to know you made quite It was quite 763 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: significant what you did last year where you sat down 764 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: with the BBC and discussed the issue of online abuse 765 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: that tennis players in Dua. I wondered, what prompted you 766 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: to kind of come out and talk about that so 767 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: personally and had seen in that time it was almost 768 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 2: a year ago. Do you think the situation has improved 769 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: it all? 770 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, firstly, I know there's been 771 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: a lot more conversations within the British government. I know 772 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: for like that's been happening, so that's a really positive outcome. 773 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: It at least sparked some sort of train of thought 774 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 4: and conversations, and that was really my main point of 775 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: doing it was just to start something and to see 776 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: if they could make a bit more of an impact 777 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 4: in that area. I think the reason for me starting 778 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: it was based on a few things. I think, you know, 779 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 4: I've been that young girl. Once I've been through it. 780 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: I feel lucky enough that I'm not someone. 781 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: That takes things to heart very very much. 782 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: I know I'm going to probably get a lot of 783 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: abuse and a lot of different things from people. 784 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: Actually some praise as well. 785 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 4: I get a lot of praise, which is really sweet, 786 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: but on the flip side of it, you get a 787 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 4: lot of abuse. With that and I found that I'm 788 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: someone that kind of is like water off a duck's back. 789 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: I don't think too much about it, but I also 790 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: know that. 791 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: There are you know, there are girls out there and 792 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 4: guys who do get influenced by that massively. And I 793 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 4: think I never really had any young siblings growing up. 794 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: I had. 795 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 4: I had my brother who was three years older than me, 796 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: who was always strong, but he was always very mature 797 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 4: and kind of knew how to handle these things and yeah, 798 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: who kind of led the way for me to understand 799 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: what was right and wrong. And I think being part 800 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: of Alex's family and seeing his younger siblings grow up 801 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: a little bit more kind of really made me realize 802 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 4: how big social media can influence people. Not that necessarily 803 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 4: they were, but I think just listening to what they 804 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 4: were talking about, and you know how sometimes they portray 805 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: them else and the things that they pick up from 806 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 4: it were really interesting to me. And I felt like 807 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: sometimes I see people who can take things massively to heart, 808 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 4: and I just wanted to try and help the younger 809 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: generation who sometimes don't have the influence that I had 810 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 4: of like an older brother or what have you, like 811 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: someone to almost like mentor you through it and to 812 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 4: kind of make it a better place for them so 813 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: they're not dealing with some of the things that you know, 814 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: we all deal with as tannis players, as athletes, as people. 815 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 4: So yeah, if it could try and help reduce that 816 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: for some of the players, and then we've got a 817 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 4: lot of young British girls coming up as well, so 818 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: you know, if it helps them even one percent and 819 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 4: makes them feel comfortable, that was my That was my 820 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: goal with it really. 821 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that also speaks, I guess to your perspective. 822 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: It does sound quite well rounded, and I wonder what 823 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: are some of the things that you like to do 824 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: away from the court that give you that disconnection from 825 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: tennis and some like I guess mental separation. 826 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think mandeable separation from the sport is 827 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: so so important. It's funny because I was actually talking 828 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: to someone about this yesterday where I think it's a 829 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: really dangerous sport where you can sometimes combine your personal 830 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: life with your tennis life and you kind of live and. 831 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: Die by every single loss that you have or even 832 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 3: the win as well. I think there are a. 833 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 4: Lot of figs and blows in tennis, which sometimes you 834 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: need to balance out a little bit and stay a 835 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: little bit more neutral with of course, you've got to 836 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: enjoy the moments, but I think we take things to 837 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: heart so much that it can actually find that it 838 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: kind of puts you in a place sometimes of quite 839 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 4: a dark place, and you really, you know, it's important 840 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 4: that you keep yourself out of that. We lose so much, 841 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 4: so many tennis matches during a year that if you 842 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: keep constantly knocking yourself, you can kind of find yourself 843 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 4: in a place you don't want to get to. So yeah, 844 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 4: for me, I try and separate it as much as possible. 845 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: Obviously haven't done a very good job of that since 846 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: Alex is very much a tennis player, so that side 847 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: of things wasn't my biggest did your sport day? Found 848 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 4: myself indoctrinated in tennis even more than I did beforehand. 849 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean. 850 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 4: I spend I spend a lot of my days at 851 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 4: tennis sports which are off, and so does he watching 852 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 4: tennis and support each other as as we are together, 853 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: but we also know where to draw the line right, 854 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: so I think, you know, even for example, I had, 855 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 4: you know, one of the weeks off that I had, 856 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: he was playing Churin, which obviously is an incredible achievement 857 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 4: in himself. Like tennis wayers, don't you know, people don't 858 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: understand that there's only a few tennis players in the 859 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 4: world that get to experience a place like that, and 860 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 4: it's so impressive to have even gotten there, let alone 861 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: to be there competing with the best in the world 862 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 4: and be one of the best in the world. So 863 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 4: I obviously was going to support him at that no 864 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: matter what. I had a week off and I found 865 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 4: myself there. But naturally for me, I was like, okay, well, 866 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm not going to come to practice. 867 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna come. I'm gonna support you, I'm gonna watch 868 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: your matches. 869 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to be there doing a few things, you know, 870 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 4: whether it was like admin on my phone or like 871 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: I don't know, doing some pilates or something random that 872 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 4: I've have been doing, but just something where I'm like, Okay, 873 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: this is actually for me, but I'm here for you 874 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: as well. So it's kind of like I try and 875 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 4: find ways to do it. Yeah, you know, Like and 876 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 4: that can be anything from literally like reading a book 877 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 4: to I don't know, going shocking to going to like 878 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 4: bit from yoga. I love the brick from yoga. I 879 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: think it's so good for you. Watching a bit of Netflix. 880 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 4: Anything that's just sort of like disengaging my brain into 881 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 4: something else. And yeah, obviously, like after my career, I 882 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 4: have many things that I want to achieve. 883 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: I probably won't go into those today. 884 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: Look setting a few things up which may kind of 885 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: get me, you know, to some fun places after I 886 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 4: finished with Tervis. 887 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 2: And I guess just finally this has been It's been 888 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: so great to chat to you, Katie, and the year 889 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: has started so well for you. I wanted to know 890 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: what would a successful twenty twenty six season look like 891 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: for you. 892 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny, you see that, because I hopefully, I mean, 893 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 4: I'm planning for this to happen, but hopefully my twenty 894 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 4: twenty six season is going to be the best year 895 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 4: of my life. I'm marrying on my other half, so 896 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 4: it's going to be, no matter what, the biggest success 897 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 4: that I ever have in my life. So that is 898 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 4: already my number one. I'm I'm going to have the 899 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: best year. I'm going to be so happy. I couldn't 900 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 4: be more grateful for. 901 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: What I have. And anything on top of that is 902 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: a bonus. 903 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 4: So I think for me it's about staying healthy, staying 904 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 4: happy and just enjoying the tennis and the rest will 905 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 4: take care of yourself. 906 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: I love that answer. Thanks so much, Katie. This was 907 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: really great to chat out to good luck this week 908 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: and obviously with the wedding planning as well. That's that's exciting. 909 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 2: Going to need it. Thank you, good to chat to you. 910 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: We'll see you soon. 911 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, see ya. 912 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: Congrats Matt. That was a fantastic interview. 913 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: Oh thanks if I was really struggle. We got a 914 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: lot of time with Katie. She was so generous with 915 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: her time and we're so candid we say that about 916 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: a lot of our guests, but she really was, like 917 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: it was really great to kind of work out how 918 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: she ticks. I thought it was clear that she's an 919 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: incredibly well rounded individual who although she dedicates herself so 920 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: wholeheartedly to tennis, she has a great perspective and she 921 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 2: realizes there's a life outside of the sport. I thought 922 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: that was great, and yeah, just really cool to see 923 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: that she's like, you know, getting on top of her 924 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: injuries and rediscovering her form and yeah, really excited to 925 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: see what she does next. 926 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back next Monday with another episode of the 927 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: sit Down. Please subscribe so all of our interviews landing 928 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: your podcast feed, and we'd love if you could leave 929 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: us a rating and a review. 930 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week five. 931 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: Look forward to it, Matt