WEBVTT - #103 Steph Claire Smith: Intimacy Challenge, Bounce-Back Culture and Failed Sleep Routines 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.600 Ash, what are your thoughts on a thirty day intimacy challenge? 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.200 I'm listening us. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:15.600 Well, not we could, but well maybe your wife, who the. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.600 Hell could last thirty days? More like thirty seconds? 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.360 Hey, well you know Steph kles Smith I do. You're 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.000 a big fan of her work. She is one of 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.200 the co founders of one of this country's most successful 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.280 fitness apps. It's called Kick or Keep It Cleaner. She's 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.360 got over one point five million followers. Have also got 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.320 kick pod as well, which is hugely successful. Her and 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.839 her husband, Josh, they recently made the commitment to each 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.120 other and it turns out Ash it did their relationship 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:45.920 some good. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:46.640 Wow. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.920 Who'd a thought that three days of intimacy would help 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:54.280 her relationship? Yes, Steph and Josh have been together since 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.800 they were teenagers, so you've got to find creative ways 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.280 to keep the spice alive, especially when you have a 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:00.840 three year old. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.800 Harvey ended the world during the height of COVID lockdown. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.520 What a time to be conceived. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.039 Yeah, baby, COVID baby. She also has a love for 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.280 jet ski, so let's lock in and find out why 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:11.720 that is. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.199 Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mom. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.800 I'm Maddie Jay, I'm. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.039 Ash's Steph Clesmith, mamma of Harvey. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.760 Very very very thank you. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.600 And this is a podcast all about parenting. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.680 It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.160 Now, Steph, we don't give advice. You never have, we 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.560 never will. But if you feel like you want to 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.240 give any advice whatsoever, absolutely you're allowed to. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.360 Do whatever you lie. But we give that warning at 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:55.200 the start so of people. 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.559 But that didn't work, then we can be like, well, 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.640 it's not real advice. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.720 Occasionally we'll give some medical advice. Yeah, but for legal reasons. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:05.600 We're not doctors. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:06.880 We're not doctors yet. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.919 Okay, are you working on that? 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.200 Steph? We're going to go back to the very beginning 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.120 of time, back to when you were a lot younger. Okay, 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.320 what was a young Steph? Claire Smith Like, I feel 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.040 like you were the kind of person that would be 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.640 like ducks of the school. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.119 Why did you take the words out of my mouth? 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.919 And I haven't heard the word ducks at a while. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.040 I might throw that out there. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.240 Never got a detention, always got an A plus. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:36.400 Is that the right picture? 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:36.760 On Paine? 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:42.480 Over to the opposite, Yes, yes, like I definitely. I 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.960 think in the subjects that I enjoyed, I got along 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.040 with my teacher and I got good grades. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.200 But I was not academic. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:53.919 What were those subjects that you liked, like. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.880 Food, take, like studio art that, But no, I definitely 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.880 had detentions, more so in primary. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.640 School a lot of them. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.240 I was Actually I was very easily distracted, so I 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.080 loved drawing, and if I didn't really love a subject, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.440 I just kind of added to this thing that I 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.080 called jodd of drawings, which became like little booklets of 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.040 random creatures. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.320 Do you still have made? 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:11.639 Yeah? 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.079 Actually, wow, that's pretty awesome. You're a doodler. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.239 I'm a doodler. Yeah. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:23.120 Language, and so detentions were usually just because of that, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.200 and it was kind of a repeat offense. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.440 Seemed like a really bad thing to do. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.760 It's like like you were just drawing a little bit 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.560 and they're like detention. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.320 Was it a strict school that you went to. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:34.520 No, it wasn't. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.560 And to be fair, you hung out with the vice 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.280 principal and everyone loved him, so maybe I don't know, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:40.320 maybe I did it on purpose. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:42.880 He was a nice guy. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.360 But also there was one that I definitely I do 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.320 regret it wasn't a very nice thing, although he was 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.680 a bit of a bully himself. So you know, we're 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.880 playing four square, and I think I called what's four square? 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:54.200 Hamble? 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:54.920 Wait? 0:03:54.960 --> 0:04:01.440 What hamble? The one that yeah square handle a king queen? 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.440 Yeah? Yeah, two squirrel four square? Depending on how many 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:05.800 feel like. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.640 A back in primary school, Wow, I didn't. I'll send 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:10.560 you a how to later. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:17.040 I missed this and he annoyed me, and I think 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.520 I called him a buck tooth, and then. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.160 I go to, wow, that's a fancive. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.839 I was probably seven, but I definitely got your. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.000 Mouth shamed in straight up. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.240 So when you got that detention, would you be more 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.599 afraid of telling your mom or your dad? Like who 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.359 was more strict? 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:34.560 My mom? 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.479 Only just because I feel like my dad was a 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.919 bit of a rebel growing up, and so through my 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.800 teens as well, like I started drinking before I should have. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.720 I would skip on classes and stuff, And I feel 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.720 like my mom she was the youngest of quite a 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.760 lot of siblings, and she was a bit of a goodie. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.360 I don't want to call it well. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.720 She was good at shoe shoes, like very very would 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.320 have been teacher's pet kind of person, and I didn't 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.279 really gel with her until I got a bit older. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.680 Always got along with her, love my mom to bits, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.520 very grateful for our relationship, but yeah, I didn't really 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.160 see myself in her until now I'm a mom and 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.680 I'm like, oh my god, you were the best mum 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:09.840 that I could have asked for, and I want to 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.359 be everything like you. But my dad, growing up, I 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.599 knew that he was a bit of a rebel and 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.039 like just kind of did things his own way, so 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.560 I wouldn't have I feel like he would. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.000 Have understood things like that. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:21.880 But he was the one I was a little bit 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.880 more scared of, Like if I was in trouble at home, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.240 I'd run away from him. From him, Yeah, but his 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.320 mom just had the disappointing kind of yeah wow. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:33.279 Yeah. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.640 No, definitely not like a across the bord a plus 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.120 student ducks of the school. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.760 No, I was like sports captain. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:40.120 That's pretty good. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.320 But that makes a lot of sense. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.200 Did they have to vote you in or you just. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.680 Like in primary school they did and then in high 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.760 school I kind of remember how that worked. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.479 So why do you think he didn't gel with your mom? 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.000 Is it just like you just didn't click before. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.599 Yeah, I think it was just like, well like we did, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:00.599 we got along. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.760 It was never that kind of mum and daughter relationship 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.240 where we were like screaming each other anything. I don't 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:06.719 think I ever raised my voice at it, But I 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.760 just I feel like when she'd find things out, or 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.800 like if i'd I don't know, skip school for a 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.200 boy or something like that, just didn't really feel like 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.400 she understood. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.240 Yeah, yeah, okay, likes just way more sensible. It was like, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:24.479 why would you do something so irresponsible? What were you 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:25.400 skipping school for? 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.080 Josh? 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:32.440 No, not yet for anyone who doesn't know is your husband? 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:37.480 He is my husband. I was funny story about that. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:44.840 I actually my mum found mms texts mms. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.320 In my phone bill, which she still look after unless 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:48.800 I went over. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.000 Was it like thirty cents mms? 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:57.679 They were to Josh And this is when we were younger. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:02.840 So yeah, that was a funny moment. Josh's number, this. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.479 Is Josh's what instead of Josh's did your mom? 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.200 Did your mom have to call the number to find 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:08.520 out who? 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.720 Well, she just knew and she we weren't dating, so 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.120 she was a bit like what's going on? 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:16.120 So how old were you then? 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.480 I think I was like sixteen. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.280 Oh yeah, you know what those mmss would have been about. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.160 If you weren't dating then did it take a while 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.840 for Josh to caught you or vice versa? 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.800 Well, so when we met, I was twelve, and so 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.280 I think I was just like too young to go. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.360 There's three years older than me. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.960 So you've only since you were twelve, so it'd been fifteen. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.160 Oh my god, that's a long time. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.119 Yeah, eighteen years. Yeah my age. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.680 Now either one of us were like, oh, we'll work 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.920 that out after you've le message. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:51.320 Was eighteen years. 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.080 Oh my god, you're like thirty. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.679 But no, we started dating when I was eighteen. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.760 That is just so he's like that long. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.000 Yeah, I mean there was a lot of like flirting 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:04.920 along the way. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.160 People went surprised when it happened. 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.920 Were their boyfriends in between? Yah, Okay, it wasn't like 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.280 it was like, no, they's a notebook and he was 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.400 like waiting in the rain six years. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.720 So when was the moment that the penny dropped? 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:19.880 Then? 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.040 For you and Josh, it was basically the first time 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.480 we were both away together because we both have property 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.120 up on the Morro River, and that's where we spent 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.840 a lot of the time because our families did up there, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.319 and it was basically the long weekend up there that 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:35.240 we were both single. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.440 It was the first time we spin. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:43.079 In the bottle. There's definitely spin the bottle that weekend. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.840 Did he make the move or did you make the move? 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:46.920 I can't remember. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.480 I think it was just that we were both very 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.680 much aware that something was going to happen that weekend. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.040 I remember going on the jet ski. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:09:00.280 Actually there's no better afrodisiac ski. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:06.839 No, sorry, listener, it's just a technical listening. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:08.400 Ash is getting a little bit. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.839 You said, jet ski. I was like, I'm in, I'm 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:13.600 in for the ride. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.200 And it was just, you know, in the way that 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.760 we were hovering each other that it was like it's 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:19.440 on tonight. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:19.800 It is on. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:20.559 Wow. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.960 It certainly was for anyone who has a crush out 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.760 there not sure how to like make come in my house, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:29.319 got a jet ski. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:34.560 The way he held me on that jet ski, that 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:35.920 is that is very good. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.439 All Right, we're gonna have to finish this up now. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.520 And do you remember when you're getting a little bit older, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.400 let's say, you know, around your early twenties, did you 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.080 and Josh discuss openly the thought of having kids and 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.920 what that plan looked like earlier on? 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.600 I think, I mean, we were really lucky. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.920 We traveled a lot together and had all of those 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.400 kind of experiences in our life really early, which was 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.240 really nice. So I think soon after that we were 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.440 both talking back getting married and like getting engaged and 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.440 what engaged at them, and then yeah, kids was something 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.679 I wanted from a pretty young age, but because I 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.040 was full time modeling. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.160 I was like, well, I'll just wait till I'm a 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:14.679 bit older. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.880 And then Kick my Business happened, and it just felt 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:19.920 like the right time when it did. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.400 With Harvey, how long were you dating before he dropped 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:23.640 in there? 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.800 And actually two part question and how did he do it? 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.040 So two thousand and eighteen we were engaged and we 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:36.080 started dating in two thousand eleven or twelve, Yeah. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.520 Seven years see my mask work. Then well, thank you, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:39.120 I'm learning. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.520 And it was such a lovely surprise. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.040 We'd actually just launched the app, the Kick app, and 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.040 it was a really big moment and we were really 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.000 it was just it was awesome. It went to the 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.400 top of the Apple charts on the night of launch, 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.840 and we went out to celebrate. And when I say we, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.280 my business partner Laura Henshaw and Josh and her partner 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.560 Dom We all went out for dinner and they got us, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.880 well they got me this, Well, no, they got us. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:09.120 Yeah. 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.440 It was for Laura and I this like voucher to 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.439 go away and spend the weekend away. And it was 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.439 supposed to just be celebrating and like we're getting the 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:18.080 chopper there. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.880 It was very very bougie. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.000 And then the weekend came around and it was the 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.840 worst weather ever, like really windy, really rainy, and so 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.600 the chopper got canceled. But what I didn't know was 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.400 it was all a set up, and they both totally 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.280 knew about it, and all of our friends and family 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.240 were up the river waiting for me. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.200 Basically, so Josh said, change of plans. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.079 The chopper is now picking you up from the farm 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.320 and then it's going to take you to the place 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.760 because the weather. So Dalton's driving to the river and 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.800 he's never been there before and he was driving like 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.760 an idiot. But we were just so excited in the back. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.400 I was like, this is gonna be the best thing ever. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.840 I was totally distracted. And then we pull up and 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.920 I get out of the car and I see joh 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.040 and he wasn't meant to be there, like we were 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.120 just meant to be getting the chopper there, and I was. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:05.760 Like, why is he Every time you say the chopper, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.640 I could just see it. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:13.560 And I just it's fine. And so he was standing 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.160 out there and I was like, what's Josh doing here? 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.280 And then all of a sudden, Dol just drives off 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.199 on me and it's a pretty long driveway, and. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.240 You're like, motherfucker, he just left me. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.360 I think I started to put two and two together then, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.280 and then you just have this awkward like like do 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.320 we walk or run towards each other? 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:30.880 Like would be. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.160 Nice if hit a jet ski. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.960 Is by the good. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.880 And I didn't know, but yeah, our family and friends 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.480 were like in the house apparently. 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.079 Like peeking out of the watch. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.120 And then we went back to the house after it happened, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.600 and I said yes, and first of all our family 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.600 came out and that was a lovely surprise, but then yeah, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.760 all our friend like closest friends and one of mine 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.520 who's like assisted of me, he flew over from New. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.120 Zealand to be there. For it, and it was just 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.440 the best weekend ever. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.080 Like that night we had a movie and popcorn on 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.040 the deck like outside, and he's very good. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.120 He is very good. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Yeah, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.400 if you're listening and haven't done it yet, Josh. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.360 Miller nice because it was where we met, where we 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:18.080 first kissed. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:18.840 Full circle. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.160 Was the Jetski still there? Forget part of the family. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.720 What were the questions then that you and Josh would 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.320 ask in order to figure out that it was the 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.120 right time to have a family. 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.080 So from there it was a couple of years until 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.959 we had Harvey. But to be honest, we always kind 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.000 of imagined we go on our honeymoon and we'd start 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.200 trying then and then. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.839 That soon yeah straight up. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.920 Yeah, Well, our honeymoon wasn't straight after. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.800 It was going to be because we got married in 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.920 November twenty nineteen. Our honeymoon was supposed to be the 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:57.120 holidays in Australia in Europe, but then COVID hit in 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.839 like March, so we went into lockdown and didn't have that, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.240 and so I think the timing was just Okay, there's 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.320 a couple of things happening with Kick, we'll get through that, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.280 and obviously it's COVID, so who knows when we're going 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.040 to get to Italy. But we both really wanted a family, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.040 so we're like Italy or no, Italy will still try. Wow, okay, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.000 and fortunately for us it didn't take long. 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:23.480 So yeah, as two men, we're quite if you're not 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.480 aware ash myself, but we're very lucky and that when 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.800 it comes time to having a family. Well for me anyway, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.800 the big question Mike, and what makes me nervous is 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.000 what happens as soon as baby is born. Like, we 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.640 don't have to worry too much about pregnant practice. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.280 Just to practice leading into it. That's all we've got 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:41.880 to worry about. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.320 Getting some nice visuals. Sorry, what's it like for yourself? 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.120 I know you mentioned before that you've got your fitness app. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.080 You know you're a model, so you're in a profession. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.800 Were two professions that are like very dependent. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.680 On how ability and how I look? 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.120 Yes, So then what's it like for you to process? 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:04.840 What impact will pregnancy have on me? 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:05.520 Yeah? 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.520 I think I went into it probably naively, thinking like 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.560 it'll be fine, Everything's going to be fine, and fortunately 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.840 I was. I felt really healthy throughout my pregnancy, so 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.360 there was still a lot that I could do. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.320 My routine didn't have to change too much. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.640 Again, it was COVID lockdown so for my entire pregnancy, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.600 so I didn't have my usual lifestyle where I was 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.240 like flying up to Sydney or Queensland all the time 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.920 for different shoots or going overseas for different things. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.080 It was in my house the whole time. So in 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.800 that regard, it was okay with my body. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.000 I think I'm just really fortunate in the timing that 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.760 it happened for me. Like if I was pregnant in 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.360 my early twenties, when I was the most insecure about 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.760 my body, I would have probably. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.480 Really stressed about what's going to happen too. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.680 How am I going to get it back or whatever. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.960 But the bounce back culture, it makes me so mad, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.320 especially with all the work that we do with Kick 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.720 and everything I've done personally in the work with myself. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.000 As soon as I was pregnant and I started to 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.240 look into, you know, safe ways to exercise, I started 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.480 to see and get targeted with all of these ads 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.080 for postpartum and like get bouncing back and everything, and 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.040 I got so angry because I know plenty of women 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.160 who have unfortunately had really hard pregnancies where they had 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.760 to stop exercise altogether or eat really differently, or even 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.400 if they could move their entire pregnancy, they still you know, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.560 gained weight as you do, their body changed. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.360 And then there's the postpartum period. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.640 Which are moosted to be supposed to be the most 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.880 delicate on yourself and like really ease back into it. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.520 But women are pressure to like. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.880 Bounce back quick like we did before. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.840 But yeah, I've never heard of it being referred to 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.040 as bounce back culture. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.120 Yes, I remember, like as a kid, my mum used 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.200 to always get Who weekly magazines and it was always going. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.760 It was just always on, like the kitchen jay. Well 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.480 you know, you'd have breakfast and you flick through. And 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.480 I remember being younger and it was so celebrated that 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.800 if someone bunce back as quickly as everyone was like, yeah, 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.480 like what are achievement? This is great? 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:05.639 Yeah, yeah exactly. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.480 And it's just it's different for everyone, and a lot 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.920 of women never bounce back, and that's just the thing. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.240 So I think for me, it's what got me really 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.360 really passionate about being able to connect with that part 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.280 of our community and making sure that everything that we 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.520 did from kickside was to just nurture and like educate 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.240 them on that period. And it's all well and good 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:26.840 that you want to get back to moving your body, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.480 but you just it's so dangerous to jump back into 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.160 things just for aesthetic reasons as well. Yeah, because, as 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.639 I said, some people never go back to what they 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.920 had before, and that's totally okay, but if you're not 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.560 in that mindset, that could be really hard. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.160 Yeah, my wife is one of those people that, after 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:47.320 two kids, wanted to get back moving pretty much immediately 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.239 for our own mental health as well. It wasn't just 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.000 for the not bounce back culture, which was like I 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.199 want to feel like me again. And I can imagine 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.320 there's a lot of people out there that go So 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.640 you go through nine months, have been told okay, we'll 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.400