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Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local

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Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Every one is listening mixed one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 3: We did just hear that that a group of rural

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Speaker 3: residents have won thirty five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I think they're out in humpty doo.

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Speaker 3: Jered Mayley, the Deputy Opposition leader, joins me in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't you, was it?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 1: Certainly wasn't Katie. And if it was me, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'd be here right now about celebrated.

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Speaker 2: Oh you'd stand us up for thirty five mil?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's keep moving because the vaccine rollout is certainly

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Speaker 3: high on the agenda at the moment and plenty of

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Speaker 3: people quite concerned. We learned late yesterday that we have

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Speaker 3: a woman who is now in Royal Darwin Hospital who

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Speaker 3: had to be transported across from WA following on from

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Speaker 3: having that vaccine. She's in a stable condition. But essentially

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Speaker 3: the woman in her forties was vaccinated in Western Australia

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Speaker 3: and is now in that stable condition. But the head

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Speaker 3: of the Therapeutic Goods Administration revealed that that latest case

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Speaker 3: at Royal Darwin Hospital. Senator Sam McMahon has issued a statement.

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Speaker 3: We are going to be catching up with her after

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Speaker 3: calling on the Gunner government to halt that vaccine in

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's the way to go?

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Speaker 1: Well, look, Katie, I'm not a doctor, but what I

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Speaker 1: think about this is that we really need to rely

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Speaker 1: on the expert on the medical advice. And I understand

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister is now calling the National cabin to

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Speaker 1: to do, because they're all part of that national body

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I sort of wonder as well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad that they are reviewing it constantly,

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, we are going to be catching

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Speaker 3: what she's got to say on that topic. Now, yesterday

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Speaker 3: We spoke about this yesterday morning and we've had quite

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Speaker 3: We also learned yesterday when we spoke about this, that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the labor gun and government have left

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Speaker 1: And if you go and do that and next minute

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Speaker 2: Has he been given any reason why notnything's happened?

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Speaker 3: And yesterday we did catch up, like I said, with

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Speaker 3: So again I sort of wonder, and I wasn't aware

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Speaker 3: To me, I just can't work out, you know, where

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Speaker 1: And the Labor Gunment always talk about being open and accountable.

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Speaker 2: Myself, how did it sort of get to that point?

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Speaker 3: Everything gets checked off, as I understand it, even when

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Speaker 1: It just shows that the Labor government have failed territory.

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Speaker 1: And once again I've seen some of these photos as well,

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm still on the housing, but onto a bit

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Speaker 3: Northern Territory news today that the territory's COVID nineteen rental

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Speaker 3: measures have been extended, despite Attorney General Selena Hubo being

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Speaker 2: We are going to be.

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Speaker 3: Catching up with Quentin Killey and from the Real Estate

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Speaker 1: We were just speaking about the coronavirus and how we

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Speaker 1: what the government needs to do. The government aren't experts

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what it does mean that the

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look as though there is going to be

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Speaker 3: I mean, why do you think the government is digging

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Speaker 1: I think this is a classic example where the opposition

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Speaker 1: She's been out and listening to Territorians about crime. And

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Speaker 1: I've said this before on this radio station. We cannot

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Speaker 1: It must be right across all through Labor, all across

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Speaker 1: And yet the government didn't support it. Now they didn't

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Speaker 1: to crime and safety of territorianes, which I think they are,

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Speaker 1: Which is, if that's true, that's really really bad form.

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Speaker 3: I mean, in their defense, obviously they are saying that

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Speaker 3: to get the legislation, right, They had some concerns by

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Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about introducing it. It would obviously

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Speaker 3: think that that's actually during those budget sittings?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's two heads in that question, Katy. Is the

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Speaker 1: first thing in the Labor government haven't enough time. They

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Speaker 1: were the previous government. They've been in power for over

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Speaker 1: four and a half years, so they've had plenty of

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Speaker 1: The CLP did something about it, and again Gunner just

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Speaker 1: at risk because, as the Police Association said, what is

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Speaker 1: the police are out there working hard, doing the hard yards,

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Speaker 1: and the labor government aren't supporting them.

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Speaker 2: And I remember last.

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Speaker 1: Year there was a survey. I think ninety percent of

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Speaker 1: the police weren't happy with how the Gunner government is

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Speaker 1: this isn't a new issue, and yet Gunner hasn't anything about.

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Speaker 1: It's had plenty of time and they just haven't done it.

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Speaker 3: So do you reckon though, that this is going to

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Speaker 3: get across the line in May? Well?

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Speaker 1: The problem he May is goot budget, so and our

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Speaker 1: budget is in a terrible situation. We've got a massive debt.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys going to support it though? Are you

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Speaker 3: going to support this legislation when they do bring it forward?

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Speaker 1: Well, we obviously the devils into detail, but we are

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Speaker 1: going to support legislation that's going to help territories and

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Speaker 1: reduce crime because it's all about the repeat offenders. About

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Speaker 1: the presumption of bail, and I in my previous life

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Speaker 1: did a bit about that, so know I understand how

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Speaker 1: Baale works in the presumption of bail and it would

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Speaker 1: be easy to fix. Our legislation wasn't complicated. I think

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Speaker 1: there were six lines in it. Again, if they said

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Speaker 1: they didn't have enough time, we gave to them before

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Speaker 1: the day before. You're not meant to do it. We

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Speaker 1: did it on the day apartment. That's how parliament works,

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Speaker 1: so we gave them more time than they're required, and

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Speaker 1: yet it's a very simple change.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be very interesting to see how

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Speaker 3: this all rolls out when the May sittings roll around, because,

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Speaker 3: as I said, it does look as though the government's

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Speaker 3: to recall parliament for a day. I do want to

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Speaker 3: ask you just very quickly. I know that the government

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Speaker 3: made their announcement last week about the two new commissioners

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Speaker 3: for the Territory Economic Response, Well the Turk as it's called. Jared,

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Speaker 3: your office had let us know that you guys have

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Speaker 3: had a look and apparently these positions haven't actually been advertised.

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Speaker 1: Yess well, that's my understanding. We checked it out and

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Speaker 1: they haven't been advertised. So you know, the Labor government

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Speaker 1: come on and said we're going to do this and

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Speaker 1: it's been a week and haven't been advertised.

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Speaker 3: So these two new commissioner positions, we know that someone

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Speaker 3: going to advertise them. You're saying that they're not being advertised.

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Speaker 1: That the understanding that we've got, and we did a

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Speaker 1: bit of research because again it's back to our territory coordinator.

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Speaker 1: These people need real teeth, They need legis of power

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Speaker 1: to be able to go in and make changes and

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Speaker 1: bring time frames forward and not cut corners because the

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Speaker 1: environment at that of stuff very important, but just to bring

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Speaker 1: these developments online quickly. Well, and they're talking when I say,

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Speaker 1: the Labor government talking about the bail laws not having

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Speaker 1: enough time. Well, this is rushed and this is probably

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Speaker 1: almost just as important because we're talking about growing our

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Speaker 1: again this is another fire.

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Speaker 2: While later, Well, we'll see what we can find out today.

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Speaker 3: Deputy Opposition Leader Jared Mayley, good to catch up with

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Speaker 3: you this morning, mate, Thanks so much for coming in,

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Speaker 3: thank you,