Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's
Speaker 1: Quest to find the best seven seater Luxury mum car.
Speaker 1: Karina Irby's new PJ line is labeled tacky and Expensive
Speaker 1: and Tammy Hembro's troublesome housemate. But first, Mollie May has
Speaker 1: proven yet again amy why she is just so relatable.
Speaker 1: Yeah so. Over the weekend, Mollie shared a YouTube where
Speaker 1: she took her followers along to the BAFT Awards and
Speaker 1: to set the scene, there were some pretty big names
Speaker 1: in attendance, including Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shallow. May Now
Speaker 1: on social media it looked like a very glamorous event,
Speaker 1: but Molly later revealed in the comfort of her hotel
Speaker 1: room while sipping a peppermint tea, that she had to
Speaker 1: make an early exit halfway through her meal due to
Speaker 1: trapped wins. So to translate that for everyone, Mollie needed
Speaker 1: to fart. Let's have a listen to what she said.
Speaker 2: Right, seem we are back from the bafters and I'm
Speaker 2: just pouring peppermint tea. Because I have to be honest,
Speaker 2: I got the world's worst.
Speaker 3: This is TMI. I got the world's worst trapped wind
Speaker 3: from sitting in the same position for so many hours
Speaker 3: the ceremony, I've got to be honest with you. It
Speaker 3: put the on in long. It was such a lovely evening, though,
Speaker 3: but also because I got such a saw stomach from
Speaker 3: sitting in the same position, we had to leave like
Speaker 3: halfway through the meal because I was in so much pain.
Speaker 3: I was like, I literally cannot sit here. Like does
Speaker 3: anybody else get that when they sit crunched up for
Speaker 3: too long? Or like if you're driving in like the
Speaker 3: same position for too long, like I get really bad
Speaker 3: trapped wind. I don't even I'm not really even like
Speaker 3: a drumpy gal, so I don't even know why the
Speaker 3: wind's getting trapped because its not like the wind would
Speaker 3: usually exit.
Speaker 1: I felt so seen when I watched this video, because
Speaker 1: you know, when you think this is something that just
Speaker 1: happens to you, because no one really talks about it.
Speaker 1: I've been to so many events where I'm like I
Speaker 1: need to go and just be by myself, let it out.
Speaker 1: I think people underestimate how much trapped gas can actually hurt.
Speaker 1: There's been people who have been rushed to emergency rooms
Speaker 1: because they've assumed something more debilitating than that. Well, she
Speaker 1: wasn't exaggerating as well, because the BAFTA Awards went for
Speaker 1: fourteen hours. What Yeah, and so she was having to
Speaker 1: sit probably in quite an uncomfortable dress. Yeah, she said
Speaker 1: she was sitting in this really crouched over uncomfortable position,
Speaker 1: and in the vlog she had to get up at
Speaker 1: the crack of dawn to drive. I think it was
Speaker 1: like three hours to get a hair and makeup done.
Speaker 1: I know when I've had big events on like weddings,
Speaker 1: and you're getting ready all day and you tend not
Speaker 1: to eat very much and then your stomach just fills
Speaker 1: with air, And I think that's the big issue. Or
Speaker 1: you think I'll be healthy and have something like fruitulie.
Speaker 1: That's not going to have that much of an effect
Speaker 1: it does. Anything with fiber, well, I don't think it
Speaker 1: also helped that the entree at the Bafters consisted of
Speaker 1: caviat probably not the best food if you're feeling gassy.
Speaker 1: I had a laugh because I noticed in the background
Speaker 1: when Molly was sipping on her peppermint tea that there
Speaker 1: was a lot of McDonald's takeaway, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's quite a lot of food. And then I realized
Speaker 1: that she was actually sharing the room with two other girls.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the poor thing. She just wants to go
Speaker 1: and fart in peace, and she's got two other people there.
Speaker 1: I love that this is the second episode that we're
Speaker 1: talking about farting. We got some feedback from one of
Speaker 1: our OG listeners that he loved our discussion on the
Speaker 1: maths fart and that he's never heard women say the
Speaker 1: word fart so many times, which I mean I had
Speaker 1: to listen back. I was like, I suppose we did
Speaker 1: say it quite a bit. But hopefully Rodney gets a
Speaker 1: laugh out of this one. What is the ultimate mom car?
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we're about to find out, because I'm in
Speaker 4: the market for a new mom car with seven seats
Speaker 4: bougie fossmum vibes. So let's get started with car number one.
Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has assured her followers she's not out of
Speaker 1: touch after launching a social media series reviewing luxury family cars.
Speaker 1: The OG Wellness Warrior claims she's only sharing this series
Speaker 1: because her followers asked for it and not for her
Speaker 1: own personal gain, Kay, can you tell us more well,
Speaker 1: Sarah's day is in the market for a new luxury
Speaker 1: seven seedar family car. And I emphasized the word luxury
Speaker 1: because as you're about to hear it later, she used
Speaker 1: that word a lot when discussing her desired car. Sarah
Speaker 1: is now a mum of three, so she needs a
Speaker 1: bigger car. And at the moment she's driving her dream car,
Speaker 1: which is a five seedar Range Rover Sport. Before that,
Speaker 1: she had a sponsorship deal with Mazda. Now, the fact
Speaker 1: Sarah advertised that she's car shopping to a one point
Speaker 1: two million Instagram followers has led many to speculate that
Speaker 1: she is either shopping for a car sponsorship deal or
Speaker 1: already has one on the road. Some one case, she's
Speaker 1: just showing us commoners how the rich do things look.
Speaker 1: I don't think with a three month old baby, she's
Speaker 1: doing anything for free. I'm very skeptical that this isn't
Speaker 1: some sort of paid partnership or sponsorship deal. She isn't
Speaker 1: really known for disclosing ads very well well. A day
Speaker 1: before releasing the first real of the series, Sarah took
Speaker 1: to her Instagram story to provide a disclaimer that she
Speaker 1: wasn't out of touch. Alongside a selfie of her duck
Speaker 1: Pouding in the car she was trialing, she wrote, Remember,
Speaker 1: I'm in the market to replace my current luxury car.
Speaker 1: I just need more seats, so the bar is already high,
Speaker 1: and I have high expectations when it comes to certain
Speaker 1: features of a car. Keep in mind if I do
Speaker 1: decide to post the little review I filmed for the
Speaker 1: first car I've tried. It's categorized as a luxury seven seater,
Speaker 1: so I have reviewed it as such. I comment mostly
Speaker 1: on cosmetic elements of the car, but honestly, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm interested in when reading and watching reviews of the
Speaker 1: luxury seven seaters I'm looking at buying. Don't come at
Speaker 1: me for being out of touch. I can assure you
Speaker 1: I'm not, and I acknowledge it's an absolute privilege and
Speaker 1: blessing to even be shopping this category. However, when a
Speaker 1: car is classified in the luxury car category, naturally they're
Speaker 1: held at a higher standard and the buyer will expect
Speaker 1: certain features. I think we can all understand and appreciate this. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is all and She finished with the thumbs up.
Speaker 1: This ogi this is what convinces me that she has
Speaker 1: some sort of paid partnership deal in the wings, because
Speaker 1: why would she want to ostracize her audience like this.
Speaker 1: She's already copying flak for being out of touch and
Speaker 1: promoting this luxury car that most of the moms who
Speaker 1: follow her will majority of the moms who follow her
Speaker 1: would not be able to afford. So what is the
Speaker 1: point of doing this? When you see a disclaimer like this,
Speaker 1: you know that the real is going to be absolutely obnoxious.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sarah followed up in another slide, saying, don't worry, I'm
Speaker 1: not out here trialing in Aston Martin, Lambeau or Ferrari.
Speaker 1: Just everyday cars have been classified by their brands to
Speaker 1: be in the luxury category. Nothing crazy, I promise a
Speaker 1: lot of the way you keep saying luxury, get luxury.
Speaker 1: She also added a pole with the voting options yes,
Speaker 1: post your review, I'm interested in No, I don't care now.
Speaker 1: The yes was a resounding winner with over ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the votes. It's a bit weird for Sarah to
Speaker 1: reference an Aston Martin as being sort of an out
Speaker 1: of touch car because she's already purchased one of those
Speaker 1: for her dad a couple of years ago, which obviously
Speaker 1: is incredibly generous because she gave it as a gift
Speaker 1: to her dad, But you do buy luxury cars. To
Speaker 1: be fair to her, though, she didn't make a huge
Speaker 1: video about doing her dat a car, which a lot
Speaker 1: of influencers would have done for content. It was mentioned
Speaker 1: in a vlog though it was, but it wasn't like
Speaker 1: click baity like I bought my dad at Aston Martin,
Speaker 1: which I really don't like when people put that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff on TikTok or YouTube. It's a bit vulgar.
Speaker 1: It kind of seems a bit patronizing to people's parents. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a hard one as well, because we've had this
Speaker 1: discussion before where there are influencers or podcasters who are
Speaker 1: clearly making a lot of money, but they feel they're
Speaker 1: unable to disclose this to their audience. Whereas you've got Sarah.
Speaker 1: She is at least being honest about how much she's
Speaker 1: earning and what she's buying. That's the thing. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone is upset that she's successful. I think it's
Speaker 1: more the tone. Yeah, it's very much. The tone is
Speaker 1: quite condescending. Now, while the Instagram poll was a resounding yes,
Speaker 1: Sarah revealed her dms told a different story. She described
Speaker 1: them as being a mix of beautiful and fiery. Here's
Speaker 1: more of what she said. I don't understand.
Speaker 6: I think people forget I'm just a content creator, right
Speaker 6: like I think Instagram is just a place to be entertained.
Speaker 6: And there is no ulterior motive to me documenting this,
Speaker 6: like I wasn't even going to document it me finding
Speaker 6: a new car to buy.
Speaker 1: As for the decision to share the content, Sarah said
Speaker 1: she was motivated by organic interests from her followers. She
Speaker 1: also said that she was surprised how interested they were
Speaker 1: when she briefly mentioned she needed to sell her car,
Speaker 1: and she did preface that if it ever seemed like
Speaker 1: she was sharing content outside of her normal realm, that
Speaker 1: it was for one of these two reasons.
Speaker 6: It's either I'm really passionate about it and I want
Speaker 6: to mix it up, because guys, I've been doing this
Speaker 6: for eleven years, Like, I just film things that make
Speaker 6: me happy. I'm a creative.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it doesn't surprise me
Speaker 1: she's getting that negativity in a DM. So because we
Speaker 1: are at a cost of living crisis. A lot of
Speaker 1: influencers seem to keep overlooking that fact. Now. Sarah was
Speaker 1: also adamant that the series was merely a fun creative
Speaker 1: project and not a way to financially gain This is
Speaker 1: what she said.
Speaker 6: And also, you don't get paid for reels like people
Speaker 6: were like, you're monetizing this.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 6: You don't get paid for Instagram reels like this is
Speaker 6: just for fun. The only thing I get paid for
Speaker 6: for view U is YouTube videos. You get like sense
Speaker 6: perview literal sense, But like Instagram and TikTok in Australia,
Speaker 6: you don't get paid like this is literally just fun
Speaker 6: and you guys ask for it. So yeah, if I
Speaker 6: ever film something that's like out of my norm, which
Speaker 6: like never books yourself in, you can film whatever you
Speaker 6: want to do, it's either like people have asked or
Speaker 6: I'm just like this is a fun idea.
Speaker 1: I want to debunk what Sarah said there because I
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit misleading. She is correct in
Speaker 1: saying that Instagram and TikTok don't have a creative fund
Speaker 1: or ad sense like other platforms or in other countries. However,
Speaker 1: she still earns money from her reels on TikTok because
Speaker 1: she monetizes a lot of her reels and also Instagram
Speaker 1: stories by featuring sponsored products. I would be confident in
Speaker 1: saying that Instagram would be the social media platform where
Speaker 1: she makes the most money for it. She wouldn't be
Speaker 1: making heaps on her YouTube ad sense. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think she keeps around YouTube because that's where she started,
Speaker 1: and that's where she can tell longer form stories and
Speaker 1: really connect with her audience. But I think the money
Speaker 1: maker here is definitely Instagram, and she's not just creating
Speaker 1: content out of the goodness of her heart to entertain
Speaker 1: the masses. She gets paid a lot for doing it,
Speaker 1: whether that's through paid partnerships or promoting her own products
Speaker 1: like a cookbook that she sells. I found it interesting
Speaker 1: just how many disclaimers and Instagram videos Sarah put out
Speaker 1: before just dropping what was supposed to be an apparent
Speaker 1: fun video and piece of content, because she went on
Speaker 1: to then accuse her followers of having double standards.
Speaker 6: If I was Kurt or just like a man who
Speaker 6: run his own company, worked really hard, had their own
Speaker 6: business for over ten years, no one would bat An
Speaker 6: Eiel it. If I was just filming random reels of
Speaker 6: me replacing a luxury car, like shopping around and like
Speaker 6: comparing them, no one would say anything. It'd be like, oh,
Speaker 6: that's interesting, I wonder what he's gonna buy it. But
Speaker 6: as soon as you're a female, it's like a completely
Speaker 6: different story.
Speaker 1: Look, she does have a point, but I do think
Speaker 1: in this instance it's a little bit of a lazy
Speaker 1: way to deflect the negative commentary that she was getting.
Speaker 1: I don't like when people just pull the gender card
Speaker 1: so that they can just do whatever they want, because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, in this instance, I
Speaker 1: don't think people are being sexist. I think people have
Speaker 1: an issue because she's being toned. To Karina Rbie, who
Speaker 1: were discussing later in the episode, she had a similar
Speaker 1: sentiment this week. She feels like she cops unnecessary negativity
Speaker 1: in the press for sharing about her luxury items, and
Speaker 1: said if she was a man and a successful male
Speaker 1: business owner, it wouldn't be the case. I get where
Speaker 1: they're coming from, but I definitely don't think that this
Speaker 1: is what's at play in this particular situation. And Kate,
Speaker 1: you first saw this video and you told sof and
Speaker 1: I about it, and I thought, oh, surely it's not
Speaker 1: that obnoxious. But my jaw was a jar while watching.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about this review, that would obviously go
Speaker 1: into because Sarah uploaded it a couple of hours after
Speaker 1: sharing the disclaimers on her Instagram story. Now, cart number
Speaker 1: one of this review series ended up being a Lexus
Speaker 1: GX five point fifty. I wasn't expecting much from the
Speaker 1: real because Sarah said the filming was really rough because
Speaker 1: she was holding her baby, Harlowe, and she also said
Speaker 1: that she wanted to reshoot it but didn't have time.
Speaker 1: I was then very surprised when the real ended up
Speaker 1: being professionally shot by Sarah's husband, Kurt, who is a videographer.
Speaker 1: Or was it professionally shore I thought it was on
Speaker 1: the phone, but it was edited in a really nice way. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty good real. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just something where you pop the camera open film. As
Speaker 1: soon as I saw the car shots or it was
Speaker 1: like blue yeah, yea, I was like, that's Kurt. Throughout
Speaker 1: her career, she and Kur have always had top quality content,
Speaker 1: Like they never put out anything that looks crap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Kurt also featured in this video, which is quite
Speaker 1: unusual these days for Sarah's content. I mean, back in
Speaker 1: the day he was always there, but he's very busy
Speaker 1: with his business and everyone is always like, oh, we
Speaker 1: want more Kurt, but he's just never in the videos anymore,
Speaker 1: which again makes me think that there's more to just
Speaker 1: this simple review video. Yeah, it was very clear from
Speaker 1: the get go that Kurt had a vested interest in
Speaker 1: this video. The fact that he was filming it and
Speaker 1: the fact that he was in it was a big giveaway.
Speaker 1: But then he started spooking all the features of the car.
Speaker 1: It almost felt like he was working for the brand,
Speaker 1: and that's probably because he previously has worked for Lexus.
Speaker 1: So in January last year, he shot a campaign for
Speaker 1: the car brand. He shared photos to his Instagram alongside
Speaker 1: the caption a few of my favorite car shots from
Speaker 1: a recent campaign with Lexus Australia, and Lexus Australia's Instagram
Speaker 1: account responded with our love heart under Kurt's post. Also
Speaker 1: back in November twenty twenty three, Kurt was hired by
Speaker 1: Lexus to shoot content for their function at the Melbourne Cup,
Speaker 1: so he clearly is in bed with this brand. So
Speaker 1: it must have been easy for him to organize a
Speaker 1: car for Sarah. Yes, it's very interesting. Now. While Kurt
Speaker 1: tried very hard to sell this car, Sarah, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, seemed more focused at being ultra picky about
Speaker 1: the car's luxury features, and it was clear she would
Speaker 1: have preferred trialing the next model up.
Speaker 4: Here's what she said, I should preface this is the
Speaker 4: luxury version, and if I was to get it, I
Speaker 4: would get the sport Luxury, which is one tier up.
Speaker 4: It would have different rims, but I would probably get
Speaker 4: new rims anyway, because I want big, bad mungle rims.
Speaker 1: The car sunroof also didn't appear to be up to
Speaker 1: Sarah's standards.
Speaker 4: A current car has a full moon roof, like all
Speaker 4: the way back, here is.
Speaker 6: The sunroof open it?
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a version where it like you
Speaker 4: get a bigger.
Speaker 1: One, always got the sun? Can we close?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is there no shade?
Speaker 6: Oh it's manual.
Speaker 1: I sound like.
Speaker 4: Such a princess, But my rang drover, you just boop
Speaker 4: and it goes okay.
Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when you have to manually pull
Speaker 1: the sunroof shade over? I mean, we've all been there before.
Speaker 1: And it's also not big enough. Oh, absolutely slumming it
Speaker 1: with that sunroof for me. Normally I just get my
Speaker 1: butler to open it for me. Well, the automatic boot
Speaker 1: also wasn't high tech enough for Sarah.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure in the sports luxury when you do this,
Speaker 6: a handful of baby, a handful of groceries. When you
Speaker 6: do that and it opens Ooh.
Speaker 4: As a mum, little things like that make me buy
Speaker 4: a car, I just want to whoop and I want to.
Speaker 3: Manual.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not a mum yet, but that is actually
Speaker 1: a really good feature for months. I also, I want
Speaker 1: to say that it would have looked fake if she
Speaker 1: was gushing too much about the car, because she's prefaced
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a review, So I mean,
Speaker 1: she does have to point out some of the features
Speaker 1: that she does or doesn't live, but not in such
Speaker 1: a way that it's like, oh, I'm just so above
Speaker 1: it that I need my car to do all of
Speaker 1: these again, it rubbed me up the wrong way. It
Speaker 1: came down to tone. I couldn't help but laugh when
Speaker 1: Sarah said this after making the back seats lay flat
Speaker 1: down with the press of a button.
Speaker 6: I feel like most of the yummy mummy cars have this.
Speaker 6: At this point, I'm still impressed.
Speaker 1: I mean, my car does not do this. I've got
Speaker 1: a Kia Sportage. I call it my soccer mum car,
Speaker 1: but I actually have to manually put the seats down.
Speaker 1: It does seem like Sarah has a problem with Kias
Speaker 1: because she went on a ramp before posting all of
Speaker 1: these reviews how she never would want a Kia Carnival,
Speaker 1: which is known to be a really popular mum's car.
Speaker 1: Does that mean you're not a yummy mummy cake, because
Speaker 1: I feel like there was also this emphasis on you're
Speaker 1: only a hot mom or a yummy mummy if you're
Speaker 1: driving around in a luxury you're some ugly daggy mum
Speaker 1: if you don't have a fucking Lexus or a range Er.
Speaker 1: I did see this mum right under uneath in the
Speaker 1: comment section, I'm pretty happy with my rav four with
Speaker 1: my four kids, and then Sarah wrote a comment back like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're great cars. My mum has one. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't particularly like the term yummy mummy either. Reminds
Speaker 1: me of that TV show that was on a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago Channel seven. It was all those rich
Speaker 1: mums that got like Mercedes g. Waggers was apparently one
Speaker 1: of the yummy mummies, the one from Adelaide. She drives
Speaker 1: around with the number plate Yummy. I went to her
Speaker 1: house so when I was working at the thirty six as,
Speaker 1: we got her on board to be an ambassador and
Speaker 1: we had her sit in Courtside and we filmed something
Speaker 1: at her house and I saw remember the room. It
Speaker 1: was like, what's a brand that she really liked was?
Speaker 1: It was a Fasaci room and she was lovely. The
Speaker 1: whole family was so home. That show went off overseas,
Speaker 1: so all the massive ms, so all of the yummy
Speaker 1: mummies ended up. I think she's got like is it
Speaker 1: a million followers or something ridiculous? So I feel like
Speaker 1: the term yummy mummy, I gree it feels very twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: like as if your only value in being a mum,
Speaker 1: as if you're an attractive fit. And adding the term
Speaker 1: boss babe. Yeah, the whole thing felt so ten years ago,
Speaker 1: like my boss babe car. Also the word bougie. I
Speaker 1: know we said it on the podcast a bit, but
Speaker 1: I actually hate that word. Yeah, I mean, i'd much
Speaker 1: prefer to be called a milk I'm just joking myself now.
Speaker 1: At the end of the video, Sarah raided the car
Speaker 1: eight stars out of ten and asked her followers to
Speaker 1: comment below what car she should try next now at
Speaker 1: the time, Kia Carnivals. Yeah, I would love the Oh
Speaker 1: my god, imagine how brutal it would be.
Speaker 5: I find it.
Speaker 1: Offensive because it's funny. When I was looking for a
Speaker 1: new car earlier this year, Dale was like, you should
Speaker 1: check out the Kia Carnival. He's like, I want you
Speaker 1: to be a soccer mom, and I was like, how
Speaker 1: many kids do you think we're having? Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think we need seven seven that's a bus. Yeah they are,
Speaker 1: and we actually hired one for my wedding when we
Speaker 1: wanted to drive. Anyway, It's a good people, It's actually
Speaker 1: a really good car. So I told Dale on the weekend.
Speaker 1: I was like, Sarah's day has been bagging out Kia
Speaker 1: Carnivals and He's like, what the fuck.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: At the time of recording, The Real has notched up
Speaker 1: one point two million views on Instagram and one hundred
Speaker 1: ninety seven thousand on TikTok, clearly creating hype about the
Speaker 1: real before uploading at worked, and it does seem like
Speaker 1: Sarah purposely pumped it up for engagement. If Lexus are
Speaker 1: a paid partner, then they're probably pretty happy with these views.
Speaker 1: But are they They were going to buy a Lexus
Speaker 1: from seeing that video?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Also, does her audience have the funds to buy a
Speaker 1: seven seed luxury Lexus as well?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: It might have been a branding exercise, but also was
Speaker 1: it good publicity for them? Because I feel like there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people deterred and put off and
Speaker 1: saying she was out of touch because of it. I
Speaker 1: actually can't believe how many people were genuinely commenting on
Speaker 1: what car they wanted her to try next, and the
Speaker 1: majority of people were saying how much they enjoyed the series.
Speaker 1: I wonder if Sarah was moderating the comments though, because
Speaker 1: when I was looking through the TikTok ones, there was
Speaker 1: a comment that says something like, oh, the comments aren't
Speaker 1: it And people had tall poppy syndrome, but there were
Speaker 1: no negative comments on them, so it seems like they
Speaker 1: had been deleted. Well, if you are trying to impress
Speaker 1: a brand like Lexus, you probably do want to filter
Speaker 1: out some of those negative comments where your audience is
Speaker 1: basically saying that they don't relate to this and it's
Speaker 1: out of touch.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: A Reddit thread dedicated to Sarah's luxury car series Saga
Speaker 1: was a different story, though, One anonymous poster wrote, this
Speaker 1: fucking pissed me off. Who even posts this shit? Just
Speaker 1: buy a new car and get on with it. I
Speaker 1: hate people who flaunt their shit like this, and she
Speaker 1: knows damn well some of her mum followers stress about
Speaker 1: even putting food on the table. Another said, laughing my
Speaker 1: ass off, the fact she doesn't think she is out
Speaker 1: of touch is actually hilarious. She has multiple homes and
Speaker 1: expensive boat loads of designer clothes and accessories, constantly does
Speaker 1: unnecessary and expensive skin treatments. The list goes on, She's
Speaker 1: actually delusional. Holy smokes, this post is making my blood boil.
Speaker 1: The tone of this is actually so condescending and rude.
Speaker 1: Another years of wrote, Girl, my father and half of
Speaker 1: my colleagues just lost their jobs because of the United
Speaker 1: States government. I don't want to hear shit about you
Speaker 1: buying a new luxury car while you're completely renovating a
Speaker 1: vacation home. Now, I do want to preface that Sarah
Speaker 1: is well within her rights to buy whatever luxury car
Speaker 1: she wants, and if she does want to document it
Speaker 1: to her f that's fine. The thing that I have
Speaker 1: an issue with is firstly the way she did it
Speaker 1: was pretty tone deaf, but secondly it's to do with
Speaker 1: the ad disclosure. So there was a lot of confusion
Speaker 1: in our Facebook community about what the actual issue was
Speaker 1: with this series, and that is it for me, because
Speaker 1: if the series is sponsored, Sarah really needs to disclose it.
Speaker 1: Because in twenty twenty one, the AAANA updated their Code
Speaker 1: of Ethics to ensure influencers met the same advertising standards
Speaker 1: as traditional forms of advertising. So the new code essentially
Speaker 1: requires influencers to clearly disclose a partnership, which includes paid
Speaker 1: and contra and this means influencers like Sarah must make
Speaker 1: it clear, obvious and be upfront with their audience the
Speaker 1: relationship they have with the brand, so they either have
Speaker 1: to use the inbuilt paid partnership tools or use hashtag
Speaker 1: ad or hashtag sponsors. Sarah has stated several times that
Speaker 1: this is not an AD, so we will have to
Speaker 1: take her on her word, but it will be interesting
Speaker 1: to see if this series keeps going and what car
Speaker 1: she ultimately decides on. Maybe in her head, if she
Speaker 1: does have a deal with Lexus, she doesn't think that
Speaker 1: she has to disclose it until she gets that car,
Speaker 1: because what it seems like if she has organized a
Speaker 1: deal through a car company, what would probably happen is
Speaker 1: that car company would loan her a car for a
Speaker 1: number of years, which she could then upgrade. It's not
Speaker 1: like they're giving her a completely free car. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the deal could potentially be with a luxury dealership,
Speaker 1: so instead of the deal being just with Lexus, it's
Speaker 1: with a dealership who is going to give her a
Speaker 1: range of different cars to try, and then maybe she
Speaker 1: thinks that the car she then gets, that's when the
Speaker 1: sponsorship starts. As you said, Amy, well, I'm a bit
Speaker 1: suspicious because we have seen something similar play out with Hiro,
Speaker 1: which is the electrolyte company that she's now part owner of.
Speaker 1: So the seven months before disclosing that she was a
Speaker 1: partner of that company, she was promoting this product all
Speaker 1: over a social media saying that it was this product
Speaker 1: that she organically liked, when it really wasn't. It was
Speaker 1: something that she is financially benefiting off I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the cost of this car. I was really
Speaker 1: curious when I saw her upload the real because I
Speaker 1: would have no idea what something like this would set
Speaker 1: you back. I'm not really into cars. I had a
Speaker 1: look and the LEXUSJX five point fifty is one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars, while the sports model that Sarah
Speaker 1: wanted is one hundred and forty five thousand. For most
Speaker 1: of Sarah's followers, who are every day Australians who are
Speaker 1: probably struggling at the moment to get groceries on their table,
Speaker 1: I don't think that this car is in their realm
Speaker 1: of possibility. I don't think that there's mums looking at
Speaker 1: this thinking that this is possible for them at all.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I know we talk a lot about
Speaker 1: how influencers also provide a bit of an escapism for people,
Speaker 1: and it's fun to see influencers trialing things that you
Speaker 1: might not be able to afford. So it did seem
Speaker 1: like her audience did get some enjoyment out of it,
Speaker 1: But I think there would be a lot of mums
Speaker 1: feeling ostracized and alienated by it, particularly key drivers. I
Speaker 1: think she sort of touted this as come and find
Speaker 1: a mum car with me. See, I actually don't think
Speaker 1: it was like that at all. From the get go.
Speaker 1: She used the word luxury about twenty times and said
Speaker 1: this is I have high expectations because I've driven this
Speaker 1: luxury car before. There was no ounce of relatability in
Speaker 1: that disclaimer at all. I'm so sorry, but I'm about
Speaker 1: to do a full rant. I'm smiling, but I'm so pissed.
Speaker 1: Bikini Mogulkarna Irby is facing backlash after releasing a new
Speaker 1: skin friendly pajama line, which her followers have labeled tacky
Speaker 1: and too expensive. Social media users erupted after discovering they'd
Speaker 1: have to shell out two hundred and eighteen dollars to
Speaker 1: get their hands on a matching PJ set. Now sophy
Speaker 1: this pajama line is an extension of Corina's bikini brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, because Karna already owns a successful swimwear brand
Speaker 1: called Moana Bikini, as well as a clothing brand called
Speaker 1: The Smile Club. Karina's name will probably sound familiar to
Speaker 1: listeners because she has over a million followers, and she's
Speaker 1: also been featured on our show a handful of times.
Speaker 1: Who could forget that time that she tried to sue
Speaker 1: influencer updates AU. Yeah, because Corrina brands herself as a
Speaker 1: body positivity influencer and she was accused of photo shopping
Speaker 1: her body by an American super sleuth who called her
Speaker 1: a hypocrite. She also went viral for a post that
Speaker 1: was deemed pretty out of touch because she said she
Speaker 1: accidentally bought an investment property, which really went down like
Speaker 1: a lead balloon in this current clone. Wasn't a beachfront
Speaker 1: as well, I believe so. Now, on Valentine's Day, Karina
Speaker 1: announced that her new pajama line was live, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think that we needed another influencer bringing out
Speaker 1: a pajama line. The world was calling out for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pajamas are like the new active wear to influences.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well. She made the announcement on her Instagram by sharing
Speaker 1: a photo of herself and one of her colleagues modeling
Speaker 1: the pajamas and wrote, oh my god, someone slapped me. Please,
Speaker 1: this is a dream. My skin friendly PJ line has
Speaker 1: just gone live and you're absolutely loving it with a
Speaker 1: ton of crying faces. Thank you, honestly, wow, thank you,
Speaker 1: because this is a new adventure. The stock is limited
Speaker 1: for first in best dress. Literally, Happy Valentine's Day, everyone,
Speaker 1: I need to know what is a skin friendly pajama like? Well,
Speaker 1: this has been a pretty contentious issue because Karina didn't
Speaker 1: actually explain on her website what made the pj's skin friendly.
Speaker 1: It was only until she got some criticism that she
Speaker 1: went into detail in the comments section, saying that her
Speaker 1: pjs are designed with a unique fabric blend that won't
Speaker 1: absorb your skin's oils or prescription moisturizers. So she said,
Speaker 1: if you're an itchy girlly like me, you know the
Speaker 1: struggle of clothing stripping your skin of any cream, leaving
Speaker 1: you dry and uncomfortable. You would have thought that if
Speaker 1: that is a big selling point of the product, that
Speaker 1: it should have been explained when the product was launched
Speaker 1: and also on the website, because I have never ever
Speaker 1: heard of that before. No, neither have I now. It
Speaker 1: was awkward because this announcement post was acting as though
Speaker 1: everyone was loving the pajamas and everyone couldn't get enough
Speaker 1: of them, But it seemed like she hadn't read the
Speaker 1: room because following the post, hundreds of her followers took
Speaker 1: to the comments section to question the eye watering price tag.
Speaker 1: So one follower wrote, they look tacky. I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: buy these if they were at kmart, whilst another said, girl,
Speaker 1: I was so excited until I saw a pair of
Speaker 1: pants was eighty dollars and now I'm heartbroken. Another said
Speaker 1: more expensive than Peter Alexander full price and can easily
Speaker 1: get theirs on sale. You mentioned that she has a
Speaker 1: bikini line. It almost feels like she used the bikini
Speaker 1: strategy of selling the tops and bottoms separately, Like, I
Speaker 1: know that's something that has been happening in the pajama
Speaker 1: space for a while. Well it's clever, it's well, it's
Speaker 1: not clever if you're outpricing yourself. So I would never
Speaker 1: pay one hundred dollars for a pair of pajama bottoms.
Speaker 1: Maybe if they were the skims one. Now, these pajama
Speaker 1: sets do come with a pretty hefty price tag, so
Speaker 1: they range from one hundred and fifty eight dollars to
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighteen, so very similar to the skimmed pajamas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was really as sounded to see, in particular
Speaker 1: how expensive the summer pajamas were, so she has released
Speaker 1: a selection of camis where the top basically has these
Speaker 1: flaps that open to it labs split in the middle
Speaker 1: to reveal your stomach. Now, there wasn't much material being
Speaker 1: used on these, and they will individually set you back
Speaker 1: seventy nine dollars, while a pair of matching shorts is
Speaker 1: a further seventy nine dollars. Now, this material looked rather thin,
Speaker 1: and it looked like something that you could get on
Speaker 1: a fast fashion website. Obviously we have heard that there's
Speaker 1: some special fabric which makes its skin friendly. Now, when
Speaker 1: it came to the winter pajamas, a pair of long
Speaker 1: pants is one hundred and nine dollars, well, the matching
Speaker 1: shirt is one hundred nine. I understand what she's trying
Speaker 1: to do here, and she's trying to put her pajama
Speaker 1: line on a pedestal and say these are a luxury brand.
Speaker 1: But she's marketed at all wrong. If she has missed
Speaker 1: the whole point that these are a special material that
Speaker 1: has kind to your skin, I think people would have
Speaker 1: been okay with the price tag if that had been
Speaker 1: properly promoted. As you've touched on skims, which is Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian's pajama line. They have a very similar price tag,
Speaker 1: but they have really touted themselves as being a luxury
Speaker 1: sleep brand, a hot item. Yeah, and you know, they've
Speaker 1: selled great shapewear and underwear, like they've gained a big
Speaker 1: name for themselves before they went into sleepwear. And I
Speaker 1: feel like you expect that price tag from a brand
Speaker 1: like Skims, but not from a small influencer brand like
Speaker 1: Mowana Smile Club, particularly because these pajamas don't really look luxury.
Speaker 1: They look more on I mean, I hate to say
Speaker 1: I agree with that person's comment. They do look a
Speaker 1: bit tacky. Well I do remember so for Dovera and
Speaker 1: Lily Brown, their influencers that have pajama lines, and they've
Speaker 1: also been slammed over the cost. And when you are
Speaker 1: a smaller business, you actually have to put a bit
Speaker 1: of a mark on the products. Also because you're not
Speaker 1: buying them in bolk, so you don't get the discounts
Speaker 1: that larger brands get. So it is always going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more expensive buying from a small brand.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Karina was quick to respond to the criticism, describing the
Speaker 1: pricing as middle of the range, which wasn't very popular,
Speaker 1: so under a comment critiquing the prices, she wrote, you
Speaker 1: get what you pay for with the poking out tongue,
Speaker 1: she continued, a lot of development has gone into these pieces.
Speaker 1: They also aren't overpriced compared to other leading brands now.
Speaker 1: In response to a customer asking how many washes and
Speaker 1: whars they're likely to get out of the pajamas, Karina wrote,
Speaker 1: I've never put out a bad product. I design everything
Speaker 1: myself and back it with my life. I've been wearing
Speaker 1: and washing these for two years. It's tried and tested,
Speaker 1: to say the least. I had to get the perfect
Speaker 1: custom fabric blend to cater for my ex met and
Speaker 1: prescription creams. A lot of attention and detail has gone
Speaker 1: into this new product, and as for the price, it's
Speaker 1: middle range pricing when compared to other brands worldwide. This
Speaker 1: just seems to be a common thing now happening to influencers.
Speaker 1: There are so many out there that a lot of
Speaker 1: us either don't know who they are or may know
Speaker 1: them by face, but we don't know their backstory. So
Speaker 1: potentially a lot of Arena's followers may know about her
Speaker 1: issues with her skin and she might have breadcrumbed along
Speaker 1: the way that she was designing this new pajama range
Speaker 1: to help people with skin conditions like her, but she's
Speaker 1: lost them in the marketing. Yeah, because I think it
Speaker 1: needed to be reiterated in the announcement post and maybe
Speaker 1: followed up with some Instagram stories. Yeah, but by saying
Speaker 1: skin friendly, no one knows what that means. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you haven't had an issue with your skin, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know that you need skin friendly pajamas. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And a follower was quick to point out that on
Speaker 1: Mawana Smiles website, where the pajamas were listed, it didn't
Speaker 1: outline what fabrics they were made from and where they
Speaker 1: were manufactured. Karina has since updated all items to state
Speaker 1: that they are made from ninety three percent lio seal,
Speaker 1: which is a hypoallergenic fabric. Again, something that you would
Speaker 1: have thought you'd lead with. Yeah, definitely. Now would you
Speaker 1: pay over two hundred dollars for some pajamas? I want
Speaker 1: to know? Look, I personally wouldn't. I have received some
Speaker 1: nice pajamas recently for Christmas presents and birthday present. Ree's
Speaker 1: got me some Peter Alexander sets that I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have bought myself that I've really liked. So I think
Speaker 1: they're a good present for people, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'd personally fork out for them just for an
Speaker 1: every day where. It's so ironic that this topic has
Speaker 1: popped up because I have been fully into searching pajamas
Speaker 1: because I really want to get a nice set of
Speaker 1: winter pajamas for when I give birth. And my sister
Speaker 1: in law recently gave birth to our new nephew a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, which is super exciting, and it
Speaker 1: got me thinking like, oh, I want to make sure
Speaker 1: that I get some black pajamas so that they don't
Speaker 1: get dirty or anything on them. And I actually would
Speaker 1: pay two hundred dollars for a nice quality pair that's
Speaker 1: going to last me, that's comfortable and soft. You're probably
Speaker 1: like me. So when I was organizing my hospital bag,
Speaker 1: I came across Chantel Stanton, the model in influence of her.
Speaker 1: She had a baby, I think a year ago now,
Speaker 1: I think he just celebrated his first birthday. And I
Speaker 1: looked at everything that she'd put in a hospital bag,
Speaker 1: and she was wearing the black skin vas over two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and I was like, do I buy them?
Speaker 1: Do I not? My advice would be to not buy
Speaker 1: expensive vajamas for the hospital. I bought myself to nineties
Speaker 1: because night is better because it's got buttons and that
Speaker 1: you can just undo if you're breastfeeding. So does the
Speaker 1: pajama top, yes, Sophie, but you don't want to be
Speaker 1: wearing pajama pants when you've either given birth vaginally or
Speaker 1: had a C section, because there's a lot going on
Speaker 1: down there and nurses have to come in and change
Speaker 1: pads and do this and that. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even think I was wearing undis most of the time
Speaker 1: the first night, so well as I thought that I
Speaker 1: might want a nice pair to wear when people come
Speaker 1: over to visit me at my house and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, I mean you can wear them after,
Speaker 1: but again you're going to be getting vomit on them.
Speaker 1: I would actually invest in a really nice dressing gown instead.
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that I'll be on the pr
Speaker 1: less for Karina Irby after this topic, but I just
Speaker 1: really find it interesting to see how she is trying
Speaker 1: to position this brand. We've seen the likes of Matilda
Speaker 1: Jurf selling very expensive sleep wear and dress gowns. Obviously
Speaker 1: there is a market there well, that fruit dressing gown
Speaker 1: that might be on discoun I always yeah, exactly on
Speaker 1: super sale now. But I think where she went wrong
Speaker 1: potentially is that the designs didn't really reflect a feeling
Speaker 1: of prestige or quality. For me, designs were a little
Speaker 1: bit colorful and looked very fast fashioning. And also her
Speaker 1: audience probably don't have that expendable budget.
Speaker 7: Made a new friend called Patrick.
Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski has given it insight into how he and
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro navigate arguments, and I actually think this is genius.
Speaker 1: So Matt revealed on his podcast that he and Tammy
Speaker 1: have made up a mystical person called Patrick that lives
Speaker 1: with them, who they blame everything on in an attempt
Speaker 1: to diffuse arguments. Let's have listened to what Matt said.
Speaker 7: Made a new friend called Patrick.
Speaker 6: Okay, look elaborate, you know, I do want to know more.
Speaker 1: I'm just confused. So I haven't heard of Patrick.
Speaker 5: Patrick is a made up mystical person, So yeah, roommate
Speaker 5: if you must. And he lives with Tammy and I
Speaker 5: and we blame everything on him that has so for instance,
Speaker 5: a we'll say, ah, babe, Patrick keeps leaving his bikinis
Speaker 5: in the bathroom, and she'll be like, oh, okay, or
Speaker 5: she'll be like, Matt, Patrick doesn't make the bed in
Speaker 5: the mor you know what I mean. And then we
Speaker 5: blame Patrick for all this sort of stuff to make
Speaker 5: it less.
Speaker 1: Guys against the problem. That is literally the couple against
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 7: It is, isn't it? And Patrick fucking problem, isn't he? God?
Speaker 7: Damn it? Patrick?
Speaker 1: God? This Patrick sounds like a bit of a lazy slob.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a Patrick living at my house
Speaker 1: at the moment as well. I might have to implement this.
Speaker 1: Does Patrick take all the towels and leave them on
Speaker 1: the floor or is that you? I think there's two
Speaker 1: Patrick's that. I think it's great though, because I know
Speaker 1: Kate with you, you've got your two dogs, and you
Speaker 1: kind of diffuse arguments with the dogs that you will
Speaker 1: have a dog voice, And yeah, each dog has their
Speaker 1: own personality, and it's not so much like with tours
Speaker 1: around the house. It's more of you want to say
Speaker 1: something a bit edgy and it sounds cuter in the
Speaker 1: dog's voice. Well, dad, stop being a prick. I think
Speaker 1: as we approach motherhood amy, we should take a leaf
Speaker 1: out of Tammy and Matt's book and introduce this Patrick
Speaker 1: character because I think when tensions are high, it adds
Speaker 1: a bit of comedic value. Doesn't it end up? Like
Speaker 1: with the dog voices, you end up having a voice
Speaker 1: for your baby as well, and they help you diffuse
Speaker 1: the situation too. I think the three of us need
Speaker 1: a Patrick in our friendship and working relationship to blame
Speaker 1: it on. Like, Oh, Patrick didn't finish his run sheet
Speaker 1: for the podcast. Patrick put an error in the podcast
Speaker 1: as idiot Patrick talking about fake tanning children. I love
Speaker 1: that the name is Patrick as well, Like, it's just
Speaker 1: such a ramated one. Let's make one up for the podcast.
Speaker 1: But I think it needs to be a girl. What's it?
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll throw it out to our podcast listeners. Can
Speaker 1: you help us come up with a Patrick with a
Speaker 1: girl's name who we can blame all of our podcast
Speaker 1: issues on and all of our fights on. Before we Go,
Speaker 1: I was really hoping to put together a segment on
Speaker 1: m Davies's wedding all we can. I've been hanging out
Speaker 1: to see photos. She's been dropping a lot of crumbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's been She put up tiktoks, like on the morning
Speaker 1: of her wedding. Yeah, and it's clear that someone has
Speaker 1: actually uploaded a photo of her in her dress, because
Speaker 1: she did put a little reminder out of people not
Speaker 1: to put up photos before she has. Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so she hasn't put out her photos just yet,
Speaker 1: So we are going to hold off to talk about
Speaker 1: that on Friday. What's the bet because we're recording this
Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon. She's going to put them out tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks silly. Yeah, well, I feel like she might
Speaker 1: have a deal with Vogue or another publication similar to
Speaker 1: what Tammy Hambro had, so we might be waiting a
Speaker 1: little while to see them. But I am so excited
Speaker 1: to see her dress. I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: something quite different and out there. She's obviously a fashion designer,
Speaker 1: she had her fashion brand. We think there's going to
Speaker 1: be a visible g string in any of She's already
Speaker 1: done it. She's done it, so she doesn't need to
Speaker 1: do it again. I just have the dedication that she
Speaker 1: ACKed up three tiktoks on the day of a wedding.
Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for m Davies. I really
Speaker 1: like her content ever since she's become a mum. I
Speaker 1: think she's a lot more relatable and I've just seen
Speaker 1: a really lovely side of her developed through motherhood. Well,
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro enlisted the help. I think it was that
Speaker 1: well known girl on TikTok that does all of the
Speaker 1: social media content for weddings. She is going to wedding
Speaker 1: and content creator. That's the name I'm looking for, So
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the m Davies probably has the same woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but a lot of the videos she put
Speaker 1: up with her speaking to camera, so I got the
Speaker 1: vibe that maybe she put them up herself. Well, she's
Speaker 1: hardly going to put up all the professional ones when
Speaker 1: she hasn't shared a dress or We wait with baited breath.
Speaker 1: That is all we have time for today. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode. If you
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Speaker 1: the weekend, Thank you so much for those. This episode
Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people
Speaker 1: of the Adelaide planes. We pay respect to elders past
Speaker 1: and present,