1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbah and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day's 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Quest to find the best seven seater Luxury mum car. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Karina Irby's new PJ line is labeled tacky and Expensive 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and Tammy Hembro's troublesome housemate. But first, Mollie May has 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: proven yet again amy why she is just so relatable. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah so. Over the weekend, Mollie shared a YouTube where 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: she took her followers along to the BAFT Awards and 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: to set the scene, there were some pretty big names 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: in attendance, including Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shallow. May Now 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: on social media it looked like a very glamorous event, 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: but Molly later revealed in the comfort of her hotel 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: room while sipping a peppermint tea, that she had to 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: make an early exit halfway through her meal due to 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: trapped wins. So to translate that for everyone, Mollie needed 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: to fart. Let's have a listen to what she said. 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Right, seem we are back from the bafters and I'm 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: just pouring peppermint tea. Because I have to be honest, 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 2: I got the world's worst. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 3: This is TMI. I got the world's worst trapped wind 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: from sitting in the same position for so many hours 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: the ceremony, I've got to be honest with you. It 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: put the on in long. It was such a lovely evening, though, 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: but also because I got such a saw stomach from 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: sitting in the same position, we had to leave like 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: halfway through the meal because I was in so much pain. 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: I was like, I literally cannot sit here. Like does 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: anybody else get that when they sit crunched up for 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: too long? Or like if you're driving in like the 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: same position for too long, like I get really bad 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: trapped wind. I don't even I'm not really even like 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: a drumpy gal, so I don't even know why the 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: wind's getting trapped because its not like the wind would 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: usually exit. 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I felt so seen when I watched this video, because 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, when you think this is something that just 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: happens to you, because no one really talks about it. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: I've been to so many events where I'm like I 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: need to go and just be by myself, let it out. 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I think people underestimate how much trapped gas can actually hurt. 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: There's been people who have been rushed to emergency rooms 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: because they've assumed something more debilitating than that. Well, she 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: wasn't exaggerating as well, because the BAFTA Awards went for 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: fourteen hours. What Yeah, and so she was having to 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: sit probably in quite an uncomfortable dress. Yeah, she said 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: she was sitting in this really crouched over uncomfortable position, 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: and in the vlog she had to get up at 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the crack of dawn to drive. I think it was 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: like three hours to get a hair and makeup done. 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: I know when I've had big events on like weddings, 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: and you're getting ready all day and you tend not 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: to eat very much and then your stomach just fills 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: with air, And I think that's the big issue. Or 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you think I'll be healthy and have something like fruitulie. 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: That's not going to have that much of an effect 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: it does. Anything with fiber, well, I don't think it 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: also helped that the entree at the Bafters consisted of 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: caviat probably not the best food if you're feeling gassy. 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: I had a laugh because I noticed in the background 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: when Molly was sipping on her peppermint tea that there 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of McDonald's takeaway, and I was like, 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: that's quite a lot of food. And then I realized 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: that she was actually sharing the room with two other girls. 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, the poor thing. She just wants to go 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and fart in peace, and she's got two other people there. 67 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: I love that this is the second episode that we're 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: talking about farting. We got some feedback from one of 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: our OG listeners that he loved our discussion on the 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: maths fart and that he's never heard women say the 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: word fart so many times, which I mean I had 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: to listen back. I was like, I suppose we did 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: say it quite a bit. But hopefully Rodney gets a 74 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: laugh out of this one. What is the ultimate mom car? 75 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we're about to find out, because I'm in 76 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: the market for a new mom car with seven seats 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: bougie fossmum vibes. So let's get started with car number one. 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has assured her followers she's not out of 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: touch after launching a social media series reviewing luxury family cars. 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: The OG Wellness Warrior claims she's only sharing this series 81 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: because her followers asked for it and not for her 82 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: own personal gain, Kay, can you tell us more well, 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Sarah's day is in the market for a new luxury 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: seven seedar family car. And I emphasized the word luxury 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: because as you're about to hear it later, she used 86 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: that word a lot when discussing her desired car. Sarah 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: is now a mum of three, so she needs a 88 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: bigger car. And at the moment she's driving her dream car, 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: which is a five seedar Range Rover Sport. Before that, 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: she had a sponsorship deal with Mazda. Now, the fact 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: Sarah advertised that she's car shopping to a one point 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: two million Instagram followers has led many to speculate that 93 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: she is either shopping for a car sponsorship deal or 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: already has one on the road. Some one case, she's 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: just showing us commoners how the rich do things look. 96 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: I don't think with a three month old baby, she's 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: doing anything for free. I'm very skeptical that this isn't 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: some sort of paid partnership or sponsorship deal. She isn't 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: really known for disclosing ads very well well. A day 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: before releasing the first real of the series, Sarah took 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: to her Instagram story to provide a disclaimer that she 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: wasn't out of touch. Alongside a selfie of her duck 103 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Pouding in the car she was trialing, she wrote, Remember, 104 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm in the market to replace my current luxury car. 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I just need more seats, so the bar is already high, 106 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: and I have high expectations when it comes to certain 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: features of a car. Keep in mind if I do 108 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: decide to post the little review I filmed for the 109 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: first car I've tried. It's categorized as a luxury seven seater, 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: so I have reviewed it as such. I comment mostly 111 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: on cosmetic elements of the car, but honestly, that's what 112 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm interested in when reading and watching reviews of the 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: luxury seven seaters I'm looking at buying. Don't come at 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: me for being out of touch. I can assure you 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: I'm not, and I acknowledge it's an absolute privilege and 116 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: blessing to even be shopping this category. However, when a 117 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: car is classified in the luxury car category, naturally they're 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: held at a higher standard and the buyer will expect 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: certain features. I think we can all understand and appreciate this. Okay, 120 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: that is all and She finished with the thumbs up. 121 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: This ogi this is what convinces me that she has 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: some sort of paid partnership deal in the wings, because 123 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: why would she want to ostracize her audience like this. 124 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: She's already copying flak for being out of touch and 125 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: promoting this luxury car that most of the moms who 126 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: follow her will majority of the moms who follow her 127 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: would not be able to afford. So what is the 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: point of doing this? When you see a disclaimer like this, 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: you know that the real is going to be absolutely obnoxious. 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 131 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Sarah followed up in another slide, saying, don't worry, I'm 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: not out here trialing in Aston Martin, Lambeau or Ferrari. 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: Just everyday cars have been classified by their brands to 134 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: be in the luxury category. Nothing crazy, I promise a 135 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of the way you keep saying luxury, get luxury. 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: She also added a pole with the voting options yes, 137 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: post your review, I'm interested in No, I don't care now. 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: The yes was a resounding winner with over ninety percent 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: of the votes. It's a bit weird for Sarah to 140 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: reference an Aston Martin as being sort of an out 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: of touch car because she's already purchased one of those 142 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: for her dad a couple of years ago, which obviously 143 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: is incredibly generous because she gave it as a gift 144 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: to her dad, But you do buy luxury cars. To 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: be fair to her, though, she didn't make a huge 146 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: video about doing her dat a car, which a lot 147 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: of influencers would have done for content. It was mentioned 148 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: in a vlog though it was, but it wasn't like 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: click baity like I bought my dad at Aston Martin, 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: which I really don't like when people put that sort 151 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: of stuff on TikTok or YouTube. It's a bit vulgar. 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: It kind of seems a bit patronizing to people's parents. Well, 153 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: it's a hard one as well, because we've had this 154 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: discussion before where there are influencers or podcasters who are 155 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: clearly making a lot of money, but they feel they're 156 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: unable to disclose this to their audience. Whereas you've got Sarah. 157 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: She is at least being honest about how much she's 158 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: earning and what she's buying. That's the thing. I don't 159 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: think anyone is upset that she's successful. I think it's 160 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: more the tone. Yeah, it's very much. The tone is 161 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: quite condescending. Now, while the Instagram poll was a resounding yes, 162 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Sarah revealed her dms told a different story. She described 163 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: them as being a mix of beautiful and fiery. Here's 164 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: more of what she said. I don't understand. 165 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 6: I think people forget I'm just a content creator, right 166 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 6: like I think Instagram is just a place to be entertained. 167 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 6: And there is no ulterior motive to me documenting this, 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 6: like I wasn't even going to document it me finding 169 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: a new car to buy. 170 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: As for the decision to share the content, Sarah said 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: she was motivated by organic interests from her followers. She 172 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: also said that she was surprised how interested they were 173 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: when she briefly mentioned she needed to sell her car, 174 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: and she did preface that if it ever seemed like 175 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: she was sharing content outside of her normal realm, that 176 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: it was for one of these two reasons. 177 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 6: It's either I'm really passionate about it and I want 178 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: to mix it up, because guys, I've been doing this 179 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 6: for eleven years, Like, I just film things that make 180 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 6: me happy. I'm a creative. 181 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it doesn't surprise me 182 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: she's getting that negativity in a DM. So because we 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: are at a cost of living crisis. A lot of 184 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: influencers seem to keep overlooking that fact. Now. Sarah was 185 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: also adamant that the series was merely a fun creative 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: project and not a way to financially gain This is 187 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: what she said. 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 6: And also, you don't get paid for reels like people 189 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 6: were like, you're monetizing this. 190 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: I'm not. 191 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: You don't get paid for Instagram reels like this is 192 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 6: just for fun. The only thing I get paid for 193 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: for view U is YouTube videos. You get like sense 194 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 6: perview literal sense, But like Instagram and TikTok in Australia, 195 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 6: you don't get paid like this is literally just fun 196 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 6: and you guys ask for it. So yeah, if I 197 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 6: ever film something that's like out of my norm, which 198 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 6: like never books yourself in, you can film whatever you 199 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: want to do, it's either like people have asked or 200 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 6: I'm just like this is a fun idea. 201 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: I want to debunk what Sarah said there because I 202 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit misleading. She is correct in 203 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: saying that Instagram and TikTok don't have a creative fund 204 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: or ad sense like other platforms or in other countries. However, 205 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: she still earns money from her reels on TikTok because 206 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: she monetizes a lot of her reels and also Instagram 207 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: stories by featuring sponsored products. I would be confident in 208 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: saying that Instagram would be the social media platform where 209 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: she makes the most money for it. She wouldn't be 210 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: making heaps on her YouTube ad sense. I mean, I 211 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: think she keeps around YouTube because that's where she started, 212 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: and that's where she can tell longer form stories and 213 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: really connect with her audience. But I think the money 214 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: maker here is definitely Instagram, and she's not just creating 215 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: content out of the goodness of her heart to entertain 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: the masses. She gets paid a lot for doing it, 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: whether that's through paid partnerships or promoting her own products 218 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: like a cookbook that she sells. I found it interesting 219 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: just how many disclaimers and Instagram videos Sarah put out 220 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: before just dropping what was supposed to be an apparent 221 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: fun video and piece of content, because she went on 222 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: to then accuse her followers of having double standards. 223 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 6: If I was Kurt or just like a man who 224 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 6: run his own company, worked really hard, had their own 225 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 6: business for over ten years, no one would bat An 226 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 6: Eiel it. If I was just filming random reels of 227 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: me replacing a luxury car, like shopping around and like 228 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 6: comparing them, no one would say anything. It'd be like, oh, 229 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: that's interesting, I wonder what he's gonna buy it. But 230 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 6: as soon as you're a female, it's like a completely 231 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 6: different story. 232 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Look, she does have a point, but I do think 233 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: in this instance it's a little bit of a lazy 234 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: way to deflect the negative commentary that she was getting. 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't like when people just pull the gender card 236 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: so that they can just do whatever they want, because 237 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, in this instance, I 238 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: don't think people are being sexist. I think people have 239 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: an issue because she's being toned. To Karina Rbie, who 240 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: were discussing later in the episode, she had a similar 241 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: sentiment this week. She feels like she cops unnecessary negativity 242 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: in the press for sharing about her luxury items, and 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: said if she was a man and a successful male 244 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: business owner, it wouldn't be the case. I get where 245 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: they're coming from, but I definitely don't think that this 246 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: is what's at play in this particular situation. And Kate, 247 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: you first saw this video and you told sof and 248 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I about it, and I thought, oh, surely it's not 249 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: that obnoxious. But my jaw was a jar while watching. 250 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: When you're talking about this review, that would obviously go 251 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: into because Sarah uploaded it a couple of hours after 252 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: sharing the disclaimers on her Instagram story. Now, cart number 253 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: one of this review series ended up being a Lexus 254 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: GX five point fifty. I wasn't expecting much from the 255 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: real because Sarah said the filming was really rough because 256 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: she was holding her baby, Harlowe, and she also said 257 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: that she wanted to reshoot it but didn't have time. 258 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I was then very surprised when the real ended up 259 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: being professionally shot by Sarah's husband, Kurt, who is a videographer. 260 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Or was it professionally shore I thought it was on 261 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: the phone, but it was edited in a really nice way. Oh, 262 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty good real. It wasn't 263 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: just something where you pop the camera open film. As 264 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: soon as I saw the car shots or it was 265 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: like blue yeah, yea, I was like, that's Kurt. Throughout 266 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: her career, she and Kur have always had top quality content, 267 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Like they never put out anything that looks crap. Yeah, 268 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: and Kurt also featured in this video, which is quite 269 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: unusual these days for Sarah's content. I mean, back in 270 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: the day he was always there, but he's very busy 271 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: with his business and everyone is always like, oh, we 272 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: want more Kurt, but he's just never in the videos anymore, 273 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: which again makes me think that there's more to just 274 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: this simple review video. Yeah, it was very clear from 275 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: the get go that Kurt had a vested interest in 276 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: this video. The fact that he was filming it and 277 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: the fact that he was in it was a big giveaway. 278 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: But then he started spooking all the features of the car. 279 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: It almost felt like he was working for the brand, 280 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: and that's probably because he previously has worked for Lexus. 281 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: So in January last year, he shot a campaign for 282 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the car brand. He shared photos to his Instagram alongside 283 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: the caption a few of my favorite car shots from 284 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: a recent campaign with Lexus Australia, and Lexus Australia's Instagram 285 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: account responded with our love heart under Kurt's post. Also 286 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: back in November twenty twenty three, Kurt was hired by 287 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: Lexus to shoot content for their function at the Melbourne Cup, 288 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: so he clearly is in bed with this brand. So 289 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: it must have been easy for him to organize a 290 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: car for Sarah. Yes, it's very interesting. Now. While Kurt 291 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: tried very hard to sell this car, Sarah, on the 292 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: other hand, seemed more focused at being ultra picky about 293 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: the car's luxury features, and it was clear she would 294 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: have preferred trialing the next model up. 295 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: Here's what she said, I should preface this is the 296 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: luxury version, and if I was to get it, I 297 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: would get the sport Luxury, which is one tier up. 298 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: It would have different rims, but I would probably get 299 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: new rims anyway, because I want big, bad mungle rims. 300 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: The car sunroof also didn't appear to be up to 301 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Sarah's standards. 302 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: A current car has a full moon roof, like all 303 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: the way back, here is. 304 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 6: The sunroof open it? 305 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a version where it like you 306 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: get a bigger. 307 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: One, always got the sun? Can we close? 308 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Like? 309 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Is there no shade? 310 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 6: Oh it's manual. 311 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I sound like. 312 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: Such a princess, But my rang drover, you just boop 313 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: and it goes okay. 314 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when you have to manually pull 315 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: the sunroof shade over? I mean, we've all been there before. 316 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: And it's also not big enough. Oh, absolutely slumming it 317 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: with that sunroof for me. Normally I just get my 318 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: butler to open it for me. Well, the automatic boot 319 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: also wasn't high tech enough for Sarah. 320 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure in the sports luxury when you do this, 321 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: a handful of baby, a handful of groceries. When you 322 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 6: do that and it opens Ooh. 323 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: As a mum, little things like that make me buy 324 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: a car, I just want to whoop and I want to. 325 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: Manual. 326 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not a mum yet, but that is actually 327 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: a really good feature for months. I also, I want 328 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: to say that it would have looked fake if she 329 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: was gushing too much about the car, because she's prefaced 330 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a review, So I mean, 331 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: she does have to point out some of the features 332 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: that she does or doesn't live, but not in such 333 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: a way that it's like, oh, I'm just so above 334 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: it that I need my car to do all of 335 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: these again, it rubbed me up the wrong way. It 336 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: came down to tone. I couldn't help but laugh when 337 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Sarah said this after making the back seats lay flat 338 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: down with the press of a button. 339 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 6: I feel like most of the yummy mummy cars have this. 340 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: At this point, I'm still impressed. 341 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, my car does not do this. I've got 342 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: a Kia Sportage. I call it my soccer mum car, 343 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: but I actually have to manually put the seats down. 344 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: It does seem like Sarah has a problem with Kias 345 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: because she went on a ramp before posting all of 346 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: these reviews how she never would want a Kia Carnival, 347 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: which is known to be a really popular mum's car. 348 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Does that mean you're not a yummy mummy cake, because 349 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: I feel like there was also this emphasis on you're 350 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: only a hot mom or a yummy mummy if you're 351 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: driving around in a luxury you're some ugly daggy mum 352 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: if you don't have a fucking Lexus or a range Er. 353 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: I did see this mum right under uneath in the 354 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: comment section, I'm pretty happy with my rav four with 355 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: my four kids, and then Sarah wrote a comment back like, oh, yeah, 356 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: they're great cars. My mum has one. Yeah. I mean, 357 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't particularly like the term yummy mummy either. Reminds 358 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: me of that TV show that was on a couple 359 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: of years ago Channel seven. It was all those rich 360 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: mums that got like Mercedes g. Waggers was apparently one 361 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: of the yummy mummies, the one from Adelaide. She drives 362 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: around with the number plate Yummy. I went to her 363 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: house so when I was working at the thirty six as, 364 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: we got her on board to be an ambassador and 365 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: we had her sit in Courtside and we filmed something 366 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: at her house and I saw remember the room. It 367 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: was like, what's a brand that she really liked was? 368 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: It was a Fasaci room and she was lovely. The 369 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: whole family was so home. That show went off overseas, 370 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: so all the massive ms, so all of the yummy 371 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: mummies ended up. I think she's got like is it 372 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: a million followers or something ridiculous? So I feel like 373 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: the term yummy mummy, I gree it feels very twenty fifteen, 374 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: like as if your only value in being a mum, 375 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: as if you're an attractive fit. And adding the term 376 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: boss babe. Yeah, the whole thing felt so ten years ago, 377 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: like my boss babe car. Also the word bougie. I 378 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: know we said it on the podcast a bit, but 379 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I actually hate that word. Yeah, I mean, i'd much 380 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: prefer to be called a milk I'm just joking myself now. 381 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: At the end of the video, Sarah raided the car 382 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: eight stars out of ten and asked her followers to 383 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: comment below what car she should try next now at 384 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: the time, Kia Carnivals. Yeah, I would love the Oh 385 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: my god, imagine how brutal it would be. 386 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 5: I find it. 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: Offensive because it's funny. When I was looking for a 388 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: new car earlier this year, Dale was like, you should 389 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: check out the Kia Carnival. He's like, I want you 390 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: to be a soccer mom, and I was like, how 391 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: many kids do you think we're having? Like, I don't 392 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: think we need seven seven that's a bus. Yeah they are, 393 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: and we actually hired one for my wedding when we 394 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: wanted to drive. Anyway, It's a good people, It's actually 395 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: a really good car. So I told Dale on the weekend. 396 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Sarah's day has been bagging out Kia 397 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Carnivals and He's like, what the fuck. 398 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: Well. 399 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: At the time of recording, The Real has notched up 400 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: one point two million views on Instagram and one hundred 401 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: ninety seven thousand on TikTok, clearly creating hype about the 402 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: real before uploading at worked, and it does seem like 403 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: Sarah purposely pumped it up for engagement. If Lexus are 404 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: a paid partner, then they're probably pretty happy with these views. 405 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: But are they They were going to buy a Lexus 406 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: from seeing that video? 407 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: Well? 408 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: Also, does her audience have the funds to buy a 409 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: seven seed luxury Lexus as well? 410 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: Well? 411 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: It might have been a branding exercise, but also was 412 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: it good publicity for them? Because I feel like there 413 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of people deterred and put off and 414 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: saying she was out of touch because of it. I 415 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: actually can't believe how many people were genuinely commenting on 416 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: what car they wanted her to try next, and the 417 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: majority of people were saying how much they enjoyed the series. 418 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if Sarah was moderating the comments though, because 419 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: when I was looking through the TikTok ones, there was 420 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: a comment that says something like, oh, the comments aren't 421 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: it And people had tall poppy syndrome, but there were 422 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: no negative comments on them, so it seems like they 423 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: had been deleted. Well, if you are trying to impress 424 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: a brand like Lexus, you probably do want to filter 425 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: out some of those negative comments where your audience is 426 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: basically saying that they don't relate to this and it's 427 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: out of touch. 428 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 5: Well. 429 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: A Reddit thread dedicated to Sarah's luxury car series Saga 430 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: was a different story, though, One anonymous poster wrote, this 431 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: fucking pissed me off. Who even posts this shit? Just 432 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: buy a new car and get on with it. I 433 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: hate people who flaunt their shit like this, and she 434 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: knows damn well some of her mum followers stress about 435 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: even putting food on the table. Another said, laughing my 436 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: ass off, the fact she doesn't think she is out 437 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: of touch is actually hilarious. She has multiple homes and 438 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: expensive boat loads of designer clothes and accessories, constantly does 439 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: unnecessary and expensive skin treatments. The list goes on, She's 440 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: actually delusional. Holy smokes, this post is making my blood boil. 441 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: The tone of this is actually so condescending and rude. 442 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: Another years of wrote, Girl, my father and half of 443 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: my colleagues just lost their jobs because of the United 444 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: States government. I don't want to hear shit about you 445 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: buying a new luxury car while you're completely renovating a 446 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: vacation home. Now, I do want to preface that Sarah 447 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: is well within her rights to buy whatever luxury car 448 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: she wants, and if she does want to document it 449 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: to her f that's fine. The thing that I have 450 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: an issue with is firstly the way she did it 451 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: was pretty tone deaf, but secondly it's to do with 452 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: the ad disclosure. So there was a lot of confusion 453 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: in our Facebook community about what the actual issue was 454 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: with this series, and that is it for me, because 455 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: if the series is sponsored, Sarah really needs to disclose it. 456 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Because in twenty twenty one, the AAANA updated their Code 457 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: of Ethics to ensure influencers met the same advertising standards 458 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: as traditional forms of advertising. So the new code essentially 459 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: requires influencers to clearly disclose a partnership, which includes paid 460 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and contra and this means influencers like Sarah must make 461 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: it clear, obvious and be upfront with their audience the 462 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: relationship they have with the brand, so they either have 463 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: to use the inbuilt paid partnership tools or use hashtag 464 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: ad or hashtag sponsors. Sarah has stated several times that 465 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: this is not an AD, so we will have to 466 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: take her on her word, but it will be interesting 467 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: to see if this series keeps going and what car 468 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: she ultimately decides on. Maybe in her head, if she 469 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: does have a deal with Lexus, she doesn't think that 470 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: she has to disclose it until she gets that car, 471 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: because what it seems like if she has organized a 472 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: deal through a car company, what would probably happen is 473 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: that car company would loan her a car for a 474 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: number of years, which she could then upgrade. It's not 475 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: like they're giving her a completely free car. I wonder 476 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: if the deal could potentially be with a luxury dealership, 477 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: so instead of the deal being just with Lexus, it's 478 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: with a dealership who is going to give her a 479 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: range of different cars to try, and then maybe she 480 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: thinks that the car she then gets, that's when the 481 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: sponsorship starts. As you said, Amy, well, I'm a bit 482 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: suspicious because we have seen something similar play out with Hiro, 483 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: which is the electrolyte company that she's now part owner of. 484 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: So the seven months before disclosing that she was a 485 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: partner of that company, she was promoting this product all 486 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: over a social media saying that it was this product 487 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: that she organically liked, when it really wasn't. It was 488 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: something that she is financially benefiting off I want to 489 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about the cost of this car. I was really 490 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: curious when I saw her upload the real because I 491 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: would have no idea what something like this would set 492 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: you back. I'm not really into cars. I had a 493 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: look and the LEXUSJX five point fifty is one hundred 494 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: and thirty thousand dollars, while the sports model that Sarah 495 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: wanted is one hundred and forty five thousand. For most 496 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: of Sarah's followers, who are every day Australians who are 497 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: probably struggling at the moment to get groceries on their table, 498 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that this car is in their realm 499 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: of possibility. I don't think that there's mums looking at 500 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: this thinking that this is possible for them at all. 501 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: And I mean, I know we talk a lot about 502 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: how influencers also provide a bit of an escapism for people, 503 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: and it's fun to see influencers trialing things that you 504 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: might not be able to afford. So it did seem 505 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: like her audience did get some enjoyment out of it, 506 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: But I think there would be a lot of mums 507 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: feeling ostracized and alienated by it, particularly key drivers. I 508 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: think she sort of touted this as come and find 509 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: a mum car with me. See, I actually don't think 510 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: it was like that at all. From the get go. 511 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: She used the word luxury about twenty times and said 512 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: this is I have high expectations because I've driven this 513 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: luxury car before. There was no ounce of relatability in 514 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: that disclaimer at all. I'm so sorry, but I'm about 515 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: to do a full rant. I'm smiling, but I'm so pissed. 516 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Bikini Mogulkarna Irby is facing backlash after releasing a new 517 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: skin friendly pajama line, which her followers have labeled tacky 518 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: and too expensive. Social media users erupted after discovering they'd 519 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: have to shell out two hundred and eighteen dollars to 520 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: get their hands on a matching PJ set. Now sophy 521 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: this pajama line is an extension of Corina's bikini brand. Yeah, 522 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: that's right, because Karna already owns a successful swimwear brand 523 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: called Moana Bikini, as well as a clothing brand called 524 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: The Smile Club. Karina's name will probably sound familiar to 525 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: listeners because she has over a million followers, and she's 526 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: also been featured on our show a handful of times. 527 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: Who could forget that time that she tried to sue 528 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: influencer updates AU. Yeah, because Corrina brands herself as a 529 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: body positivity influencer and she was accused of photo shopping 530 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: her body by an American super sleuth who called her 531 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: a hypocrite. She also went viral for a post that 532 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: was deemed pretty out of touch because she said she 533 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: accidentally bought an investment property, which really went down like 534 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: a lead balloon in this current clone. Wasn't a beachfront 535 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: as well, I believe so. Now, on Valentine's Day, Karina 536 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: announced that her new pajama line was live, and I mean, 537 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: I just think that we needed another influencer bringing out 538 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: a pajama line. The world was calling out for it. Yeah, 539 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: pajamas are like the new active wear to influences. 540 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 541 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Well. She made the announcement on her Instagram by sharing 542 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: a photo of herself and one of her colleagues modeling 543 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: the pajamas and wrote, oh my god, someone slapped me. Please, 544 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: this is a dream. My skin friendly PJ line has 545 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: just gone live and you're absolutely loving it with a 546 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: ton of crying faces. Thank you, honestly, wow, thank you, 547 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: because this is a new adventure. The stock is limited 548 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: for first in best dress. Literally, Happy Valentine's Day, everyone, 549 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: I need to know what is a skin friendly pajama like? Well, 550 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: this has been a pretty contentious issue because Karina didn't 551 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: actually explain on her website what made the pj's skin friendly. 552 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: It was only until she got some criticism that she 553 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: went into detail in the comments section, saying that her 554 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: pjs are designed with a unique fabric blend that won't 555 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: absorb your skin's oils or prescription moisturizers. So she said, 556 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: if you're an itchy girlly like me, you know the 557 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: struggle of clothing stripping your skin of any cream, leaving 558 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: you dry and uncomfortable. You would have thought that if 559 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: that is a big selling point of the product, that 560 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: it should have been explained when the product was launched 561 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: and also on the website, because I have never ever 562 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: heard of that before. No, neither have I now. It 563 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: was awkward because this announcement post was acting as though 564 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: everyone was loving the pajamas and everyone couldn't get enough 565 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: of them, But it seemed like she hadn't read the 566 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: room because following the post, hundreds of her followers took 567 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: to the comments section to question the eye watering price tag. 568 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: So one follower wrote, they look tacky. I wouldn't even 569 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: buy these if they were at kmart, whilst another said, girl, 570 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: I was so excited until I saw a pair of 571 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: pants was eighty dollars and now I'm heartbroken. Another said 572 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: more expensive than Peter Alexander full price and can easily 573 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: get theirs on sale. You mentioned that she has a 574 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: bikini line. It almost feels like she used the bikini 575 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: strategy of selling the tops and bottoms separately, Like, I 576 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: know that's something that has been happening in the pajama 577 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: space for a while. Well it's clever, it's well, it's 578 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: not clever if you're outpricing yourself. So I would never 579 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: pay one hundred dollars for a pair of pajama bottoms. 580 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: Maybe if they were the skims one. Now, these pajama 581 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: sets do come with a pretty hefty price tag, so 582 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: they range from one hundred and fifty eight dollars to 583 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighteen, so very similar to the skimmed pajamas. Yeah, 584 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: and I was really as sounded to see, in particular 585 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: how expensive the summer pajamas were, so she has released 586 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: a selection of camis where the top basically has these 587 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: flaps that open to it labs split in the middle 588 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: to reveal your stomach. Now, there wasn't much material being 589 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: used on these, and they will individually set you back 590 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: seventy nine dollars, while a pair of matching shorts is 591 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: a further seventy nine dollars. Now, this material looked rather thin, 592 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: and it looked like something that you could get on 593 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: a fast fashion website. Obviously we have heard that there's 594 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: some special fabric which makes its skin friendly. Now, when 595 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: it came to the winter pajamas, a pair of long 596 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: pants is one hundred and nine dollars, well, the matching 597 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: shirt is one hundred nine. I understand what she's trying 598 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: to do here, and she's trying to put her pajama 599 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: line on a pedestal and say these are a luxury brand. 600 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: But she's marketed at all wrong. If she has missed 601 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: the whole point that these are a special material that 602 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: has kind to your skin, I think people would have 603 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: been okay with the price tag if that had been 604 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: properly promoted. As you've touched on skims, which is Kim 605 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: Kardashian's pajama line. They have a very similar price tag, 606 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: but they have really touted themselves as being a luxury 607 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: sleep brand, a hot item. Yeah, and you know, they've 608 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: selled great shapewear and underwear, like they've gained a big 609 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: name for themselves before they went into sleepwear. And I 610 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: feel like you expect that price tag from a brand 611 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: like Skims, but not from a small influencer brand like 612 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Mowana Smile Club, particularly because these pajamas don't really look luxury. 613 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: They look more on I mean, I hate to say 614 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I agree with that person's comment. They do look a 615 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: bit tacky. Well I do remember so for Dovera and 616 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: Lily Brown, their influencers that have pajama lines, and they've 617 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: also been slammed over the cost. And when you are 618 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: a smaller business, you actually have to put a bit 619 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: of a mark on the products. Also because you're not 620 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: buying them in bolk, so you don't get the discounts 621 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: that larger brands get. So it is always going to 622 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: be a little bit more expensive buying from a small brand. 623 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: Now. 624 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: Karina was quick to respond to the criticism, describing the 625 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: pricing as middle of the range, which wasn't very popular, 626 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: so under a comment critiquing the prices, she wrote, you 627 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: get what you pay for with the poking out tongue, 628 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: she continued, a lot of development has gone into these pieces. 629 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: They also aren't overpriced compared to other leading brands now. 630 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: In response to a customer asking how many washes and 631 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: whars they're likely to get out of the pajamas, Karina wrote, 632 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I've never put out a bad product. I design everything 633 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: myself and back it with my life. I've been wearing 634 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: and washing these for two years. It's tried and tested, 635 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: to say the least. I had to get the perfect 636 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: custom fabric blend to cater for my ex met and 637 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: prescription creams. A lot of attention and detail has gone 638 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: into this new product, and as for the price, it's 639 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: middle range pricing when compared to other brands worldwide. This 640 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: just seems to be a common thing now happening to influencers. 641 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: There are so many out there that a lot of 642 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: us either don't know who they are or may know 643 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: them by face, but we don't know their backstory. So 644 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: potentially a lot of Arena's followers may know about her 645 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: issues with her skin and she might have breadcrumbed along 646 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: the way that she was designing this new pajama range 647 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: to help people with skin conditions like her, but she's 648 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: lost them in the marketing. Yeah, because I think it 649 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: needed to be reiterated in the announcement post and maybe 650 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: followed up with some Instagram stories. Yeah, but by saying 651 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: skin friendly, no one knows what that means. I mean, 652 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: if you haven't had an issue with your skin, yeah, 653 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: you don't know that you need skin friendly pajamas. Yeah. 654 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: And a follower was quick to point out that on 655 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: Mawana Smiles website, where the pajamas were listed, it didn't 656 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: outline what fabrics they were made from and where they 657 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: were manufactured. Karina has since updated all items to state 658 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: that they are made from ninety three percent lio seal, 659 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: which is a hypoallergenic fabric. Again, something that you would 660 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: have thought you'd lead with. Yeah, definitely. Now would you 661 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: pay over two hundred dollars for some pajamas? I want 662 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: to know? Look, I personally wouldn't. I have received some 663 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: nice pajamas recently for Christmas presents and birthday present. Ree's 664 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: got me some Peter Alexander sets that I probably wouldn't 665 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: have bought myself that I've really liked. So I think 666 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: they're a good present for people, but I don't know 667 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: if i'd personally fork out for them just for an 668 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: every day where. It's so ironic that this topic has 669 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: popped up because I have been fully into searching pajamas 670 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: because I really want to get a nice set of 671 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: winter pajamas for when I give birth. And my sister 672 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: in law recently gave birth to our new nephew a 673 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: couple of days ago, which is super exciting, and it 674 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: got me thinking like, oh, I want to make sure 675 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: that I get some black pajamas so that they don't 676 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: get dirty or anything on them. And I actually would 677 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: pay two hundred dollars for a nice quality pair that's 678 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: going to last me, that's comfortable and soft. You're probably 679 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: like me. So when I was organizing my hospital bag, 680 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: I came across Chantel Stanton, the model in influence of her. 681 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: She had a baby, I think a year ago now, 682 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: I think he just celebrated his first birthday. And I 683 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: looked at everything that she'd put in a hospital bag, 684 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: and she was wearing the black skin vas over two 685 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: hundred dollars and I was like, do I buy them? 686 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Do I not? My advice would be to not buy 687 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: expensive vajamas for the hospital. I bought myself to nineties 688 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: because night is better because it's got buttons and that 689 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: you can just undo if you're breastfeeding. So does the 690 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: pajama top, yes, Sophie, but you don't want to be 691 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: wearing pajama pants when you've either given birth vaginally or 692 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: had a C section, because there's a lot going on 693 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: down there and nurses have to come in and change 694 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: pads and do this and that. I mean, I don't 695 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: even think I was wearing undis most of the time 696 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: the first night, so well as I thought that I 697 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: might want a nice pair to wear when people come 698 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: over to visit me at my house and that sort 699 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: of thing. Yeah, I mean you can wear them after, 700 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: but again you're going to be getting vomit on them. 701 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I would actually invest in a really nice dressing gown instead. 702 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that I'll be on the pr 703 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: less for Karina Irby after this topic, but I just 704 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: really find it interesting to see how she is trying 705 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: to position this brand. We've seen the likes of Matilda 706 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: Jurf selling very expensive sleep wear and dress gowns. Obviously 707 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: there is a market there well, that fruit dressing gown 708 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: that might be on discoun I always yeah, exactly on 709 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: super sale now. But I think where she went wrong 710 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: potentially is that the designs didn't really reflect a feeling 711 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: of prestige or quality. For me, designs were a little 712 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: bit colorful and looked very fast fashioning. And also her 713 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: audience probably don't have that expendable budget. 714 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 7: Made a new friend called Patrick. 715 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski has given it insight into how he and 716 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro navigate arguments, and I actually think this is genius. 717 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: So Matt revealed on his podcast that he and Tammy 718 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: have made up a mystical person called Patrick that lives 719 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: with them, who they blame everything on in an attempt 720 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: to diffuse arguments. Let's have listened to what Matt said. 721 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 7: Made a new friend called Patrick. 722 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 6: Okay, look elaborate, you know, I do want to know more. 723 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm just confused. So I haven't heard of Patrick. 724 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 5: Patrick is a made up mystical person, So yeah, roommate 725 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 5: if you must. And he lives with Tammy and I 726 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: and we blame everything on him that has so for instance, 727 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 5: a we'll say, ah, babe, Patrick keeps leaving his bikinis 728 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: in the bathroom, and she'll be like, oh, okay, or 729 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 5: she'll be like, Matt, Patrick doesn't make the bed in 730 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 5: the mor you know what I mean. And then we 731 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: blame Patrick for all this sort of stuff to make 732 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 5: it less. 733 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Guys against the problem. That is literally the couple against 734 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: the problem. 735 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 7: It is, isn't it? And Patrick fucking problem, isn't he? God? 736 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 7: Damn it? Patrick? 737 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: God? This Patrick sounds like a bit of a lazy slob. 738 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a Patrick living at my house 739 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: at the moment as well. I might have to implement this. 740 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Does Patrick take all the towels and leave them on 741 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: the floor or is that you? I think there's two 742 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: Patrick's that. I think it's great though, because I know 743 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Kate with you, you've got your two dogs, and you 744 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of diffuse arguments with the dogs that you will 745 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: have a dog voice, And yeah, each dog has their 746 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: own personality, and it's not so much like with tours 747 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: around the house. It's more of you want to say 748 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: something a bit edgy and it sounds cuter in the 749 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: dog's voice. Well, dad, stop being a prick. I think 750 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: as we approach motherhood amy, we should take a leaf 751 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: out of Tammy and Matt's book and introduce this Patrick 752 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: character because I think when tensions are high, it adds 753 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: a bit of comedic value. Doesn't it end up? Like 754 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: with the dog voices, you end up having a voice 755 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: for your baby as well, and they help you diffuse 756 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: the situation too. I think the three of us need 757 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: a Patrick in our friendship and working relationship to blame 758 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: it on. Like, Oh, Patrick didn't finish his run sheet 759 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: for the podcast. Patrick put an error in the podcast 760 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: as idiot Patrick talking about fake tanning children. I love 761 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: that the name is Patrick as well, Like, it's just 762 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: such a ramated one. Let's make one up for the podcast. 763 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: But I think it needs to be a girl. What's it? 764 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll throw it out to our podcast listeners. Can 765 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: you help us come up with a Patrick with a 766 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: girl's name who we can blame all of our podcast 767 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: issues on and all of our fights on. Before we Go, 768 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I was really hoping to put together a segment on 769 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: m Davies's wedding all we can. I've been hanging out 770 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: to see photos. She's been dropping a lot of crumbs. Yeah, 771 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: she's been She put up tiktoks, like on the morning 772 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: of her wedding. Yeah, and it's clear that someone has 773 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: actually uploaded a photo of her in her dress, because 774 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: she did put a little reminder out of people not 775 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: to put up photos before she has. Yeah, that was interesting. 776 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, so she hasn't put out her photos just yet, 777 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: So we are going to hold off to talk about 778 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: that on Friday. What's the bet because we're recording this 779 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon. She's going to put them out tonight. Yeah, 780 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: it looks silly. Yeah, well, I feel like she might 781 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: have a deal with Vogue or another publication similar to 782 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: what Tammy Hambro had, so we might be waiting a 783 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: little while to see them. But I am so excited 784 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: to see her dress. I think it's going to be 785 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: something quite different and out there. She's obviously a fashion designer, 786 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: she had her fashion brand. We think there's going to 787 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: be a visible g string in any of She's already 788 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: done it. She's done it, so she doesn't need to 789 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: do it again. I just have the dedication that she 790 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: ACKed up three tiktoks on the day of a wedding. 791 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for m Davies. I really 792 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: like her content ever since she's become a mum. I 793 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: think she's a lot more relatable and I've just seen 794 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: a really lovely side of her developed through motherhood. Well, 795 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro enlisted the help. I think it was that 796 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: well known girl on TikTok that does all of the 797 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: social media content for weddings. She is going to wedding 798 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: and content creator. That's the name I'm looking for, So 799 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing the m Davies probably has the same woman. 800 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but a lot of the videos she put 801 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: up with her speaking to camera, so I got the 802 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: vibe that maybe she put them up herself. Well, she's 803 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: hardly going to put up all the professional ones when 804 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: she hasn't shared a dress or We wait with baited breath. 805 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: That is all we have time for today. Thank you 806 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode. 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