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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly

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Speaker 2: Failing with Lola Berry. Get a it's lolls here quick

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Speaker 2: little check in. I know you're all living in self

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Speaker 2: isolation right now, and I know some days can be

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Speaker 2: awesome and other days can be really confronting. I sometimes

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Speaker 2: get this feeling of feeling stuck, and then sometimes I

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Speaker 2: get really guilty about not being productive enough. But in

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Speaker 2: this last week, I had a FaceTime session with my

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Speaker 2: therapist and it was really really helpful. As someone that's

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Speaker 2: always in a therapist or has been consistently for the

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Speaker 2: last three years, this was something that I hadn't done

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Speaker 2: yet since isolation begun. And I was noticing that I'd

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Speaker 2: have a few good days and then I'd have a

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Speaker 2: rough day, and then it'd kind of I'd get to

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Speaker 2: this habit and trap of going over like ruminating over thoughts.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to do a I guess a

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Speaker 2: shout out or let you know that seeing a therapist

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Speaker 2: via a telephone call Skype zoom, FaceTime, whatever you use

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Speaker 2: is still really beneficial and it absolutely helped me through

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Speaker 2: my week and have a clearer perspective and looking and

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Speaker 2: looking at things that seemed like problems much more rationally.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, see a therapist.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm super pro that I love, love, love

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Speaker 2: looking after mental health. A really good friend of mine,

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Speaker 2: Jad taught me that, you know, we do our yoga

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Speaker 2: for our body, or we go for a run and

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Speaker 2: we eat these really nutritious meals, eat broccoli because it's

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Speaker 2: so good for us. But seeing a therapists like gym

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Speaker 2: for the mind. So yeah, I feel a lot better

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Speaker 2: after nourishing that part of myself that I had definitely neglected.

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Speaker 1: Now onto this week's guests.

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Speaker 2: I was lucky enough right before self isolation kicked in

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Speaker 2: to catch up with the girls at One To Agency

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Speaker 2: Tessa J or TJ.

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Speaker 1: Close friends call her TJ.

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Speaker 2: I learned that in the start of this interview, So

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Speaker 2: TJ and Beautiful Rage, these girls set up One TO

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Speaker 2: Agency and Incredible PR agency based in Melbourne. They set

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Speaker 2: this awesome business up.

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Speaker 1: From a dream.

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Speaker 2: The two of them would walk around the Tan the

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Speaker 2: Botanic Gardens in Melbourne and catch up and kind of

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Speaker 2: debrief on there both their different jobs and give each

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Speaker 2: other advice, and I'd be like, oh, how cool to

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Speaker 2: be to one day have our own kind of baby.

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Speaker 2: And in two thousand and sixteen, one two Agency was born,

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Speaker 2: So it was really nice to sit down with these

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Speaker 2: two girls that over the years have become my friends

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Speaker 2: and people that I go to for advice, and they

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Speaker 2: helped address me and help me to feel confident for work,

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Speaker 2: gigs and events, and it was just wonderful to sit

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Speaker 2: down with them. And just so you know, we did

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Speaker 2: this interview I think at like seven thirty or eight

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Speaker 2: am before their staff came in to the office.

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Speaker 1: So these girls literally work.

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Speaker 2: Around the clock and their work ethic is pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: TJ has a little obsession with the Kardashians, which is

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Speaker 2: really fun.

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Speaker 1: To explore and talk about. I hope you guys enjoy

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Speaker 1: this pod.

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Speaker 2: And big thank you to the wonderful gang at one

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Speaker 2: two Agency for making this podcast come to life. You

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Speaker 2: guys were awesome and you shared so much of yourselves

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Speaker 2: and it's a testament.

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Speaker 1: To how successful your company is today. Big love, So

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Speaker 1: I'm so hard to be here with you girls.

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Speaker 2: So this is the one two Agency, the beginners, the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so we've got rage, We've got Tessa.

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Speaker 2: I always I was going to say before we started,

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Speaker 2: because I write to you, and when I talk about you,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Tessa J.

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Speaker 1: Yes, should I be saying Tessa J.

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Speaker 3: Tessa's fine TJJ. We say, okay, TJ.

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Speaker 1: It is done. I'm really in the fold now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, So I just want to quickly set this up

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Speaker 2: for anyone listening.

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Speaker 1: So One two Agency.

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Speaker 2: Is an incredible PR agency that does so much more

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Speaker 2: than what you might just think from that one sentence,

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Speaker 2: to the point that a staff members just coming. We

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Speaker 2: were recording this before out before business hours. A wonderful

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Speaker 2: staff member called Monty's just coming to work early, and

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Speaker 2: she's like, I think the others are coming early too.

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Speaker 2: Is this what it's like? Is it like you guys

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Speaker 2: getting well before or not?

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Speaker 1: It's five job.

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Speaker 3: We did actually did tell them that we were recording,

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Speaker 3: but then I think they're probably excited to hear they

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Speaker 3: probably wanted to come in early. No, but they're good.

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Speaker 3: They our staff are great. We actually just had a

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Speaker 3: conversation yesterday with everyone about how amazing they've been you know,

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Speaker 3: the world, it's we just sort of turned to everyone

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Speaker 3: and said, we're just so lucky with the team that

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Speaker 3: stressed and we have our falldowns and highs and lawyers

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Speaker 4: You need the great stuff to support you. Yeah, true,

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Speaker 4: or everything that's happening well, you know, day to day anyway,

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Speaker 4: Like in general, we're.

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Speaker 1: Very even when we're just standing addressed a vibe. Thank

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Speaker 1: god they're here.

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Speaker 2: I remember actually, the last time we booked to do this,

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Speaker 2: you called me out, Rachel, call me. I'm She's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. We've had an emergency at work. We

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Speaker 2: can talk about this as a failure if you want.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember I do?

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Speaker 1: I do? Every day is different. I love that though.

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Speaker 2: So you guys have been going from July twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, coming up to four years?

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Speaker 2: So my first memory of working with one two I

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Speaker 2: out to Jane mcglyne and she goes, you need to

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Speaker 2: be dressed by one two agency.

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Speaker 1: They look after its early which was and I.

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Speaker 2: Went to this apartment in I want to say Elston Wick.

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Speaker 1: Was it Bran? Yeah, I'm still there really, And I.

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Speaker 2: Remember I got chased a room, right there were all

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Speaker 4: That was everything that you've seen here was like basically

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Speaker 1: But that's so it did start in an apartment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And we did start with this spare room.

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Speaker 3: We had this big, beautiful desk at this oversized, huge day.

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Speaker 3: computers and we had actually had fake folders because my

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Speaker 3: need to have all your invoices print it, and we

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Speaker 3: do everything, you know, we paperless. Yeah, so and he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so we set that up and I

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Speaker 1: And then we were having a meeting in.

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Speaker 3: going to have to move out. So yes, we are

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Speaker 3: now in Secuta and it is. It is lovely. It's

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Speaker 1: But how nice is that?

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Speaker 2: Like humble beginning, like from your kind of like you

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Speaker 2: hear those amazing like not to liking it, but like

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Speaker 2: a Rag's Riches story where Peter Alexander was like making

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Speaker 2: we're in your incredible showroom and office space now and

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Speaker 2: it's like every time I come in, it's like an

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Speaker 2: Instagram party, Like it's so beautiful insta. Yeah, yeah, completely.

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Speaker 2: And I was on your website last night. I was like,

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Speaker 2: a beautiful space. But I do want to make sure

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Speaker 2: I cover that you are more than a PR agency.

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Speaker 2: We're talking like digital strategy here, we're talking events. You've

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Speaker 2: done talent management as well, which is a.

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Speaker 2: You guys are covering a lot of territory. Is it

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Speaker 2: true that this kind kind of was born from you

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Speaker 3: Yes, we just we just used to walk around the

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Speaker 3: we would solve the world's problems together walking around the town.

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Speaker 2: And is it true like one of you jumped the

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Speaker 4: didn't you know, we just kind of I guess we

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Speaker 4: were fearless. Maybe we just didn't really think about it.

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Speaker 4: People always do ask us about that because you know,

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Speaker 4: And I think when you're a little bit younger, you're fearless,

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Speaker 4: it at the right time. We had all of the

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Speaker 4: lucky that we got all of that experience from our backgrounds,

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Speaker 4: So that's what we you.

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Speaker 1: Know, we didn't let failure be an option.

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Speaker 4: Really, No, I love.

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Speaker 1: How you're both.

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Speaker 2: You can tell you both in PR Tessa's already said

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Speaker 2: which is today with the podcast, I'm like, these girls know.

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Speaker 3: what they do, and it makes me say, just be

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00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: yourself or have your own vibe.

446
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.

447
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: On a Sunday afternoon with the toasted tea saldage on

448
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 3: the couch, that's my time. But I just do it

449
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: really secretly in turn and not enough before anyone knows.

450
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: But so fascinating to watch.

451
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: But the thing that gets me is their business is fascinating.

452
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: I love that.

453
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, they've got clothing, they got this, they

454
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: got that. Like I think it's fast, so fascinating. So

455
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: I just wanted to do a little hats off and

456
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: just another.

457
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: One for you.

458
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: Tested, Like we were just talking about fashion. Used to

459
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: be a fashion blogger, right I did?

460
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

461
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: So do you feel like because I feel like you

462
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: still kind of carry that on your personal page a

463
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: little bit, You're like, oh, that's a nice little get up.

464
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: I can't really get rid of that. Can I kind

465
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 4: of merge into work? My Instagram's work and then me

466
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: trying to be a fashion blogger still and like, you know,

467
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: but I just I love fashion, so I always have been.

468
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't really mind putting up photos of myself or selfies,

469
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: and yeah, I always say I literally invented the selfie

470
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 4: back in Whenever because you know, we did the fashion

471
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 4: blogging when no one was taking photos of themselves, so

472
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 4: it was outrageous that you would do that.

473
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: Because so we had Lisa Seawan Shop on this podcast

474
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: and she actually like did a big shout out to

475
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: you and said, look, it was you two at the

476
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: very beginning like kind of going YouTube, were kind of

477
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: like not egging each other, and we kind.

478
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: Of like going, yeah, let's do this. Is that right,

479
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: like supporting each other.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to take clothes to each other's houses

481
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: and then go out and shoot, you know, ten outfits

482
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Speaker 4: each and then we would roll them out over Whenever.

483
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 4: But then she kind of went in the direction of

484
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: like full time, which is amazing, and all her photos

485
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: are so great, like professional minds more just and always

486
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: has been really on like iPhones.

487
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Speaker 1: And candid, yeah or candids.

488
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Speaker 4: So I kind of still like doing that and working

489
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Speaker 4: with other fashion brands and yeah, things like that, but

490
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: obviously because of what we're know our full time job,

491
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: there's no time to do that.

492
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: But like it does feel like it's quite intertwined here,

493
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: Like fashion is a massive part of one too, agency.

494
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: So I feel like the two were kind of like

495
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: perfectly amalgamated.

496
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think that's where I think we're both

497
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 4: really passionate with fashion, and we would say that that's our.

498
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: You know, not our like our specialty.

499
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, our specialty and influencers as well. And then that

500
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: also stems from being friends, you know, like being a

501
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 4: blogger and then meeting all those influences and bloggers. Like

502
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: I did a shoot I remember, I need to bring

503
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Speaker 4: the book in still. I always tell the girls about it.

504
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: I did a.

505
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: Shoot for Tony and Guy and it was with like

506
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: Gary Pepper and Harper and Harley and you know, like

507
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 4: all those and that was back in the day, and

508
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: I'm in the book with them. Ye and your photo

509
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: play a full scale shoot and yeah, so it's interest

510
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: about building.

511
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Speaker 3: Them now and now and now we arranged to do

512
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: those shoots with influences. Yeah, so it's actually really great

513
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: that I guess you've come from that background and knowing

514
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: what it was like to be on the other side totally,

515
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 3: and I think that's that's and Test always brings that

516
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: to the table when we're working with influences, so she'll

517
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: you understand what they want and she'll always say like, oh,

518
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: you know, we should do this because that would that

519
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: would promote them more, or that would they will prefer

520
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: that if we make it like this, And it's quite understanding.

521
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: Understanding those both sides, I think is important.

522
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Speaker 2: And can I say one thing on the fashion thing

523
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Speaker 2: because I come here to get fitted and I Rachel

524
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Speaker 2: last I.

525
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: Was like, my boobs won't fit. I've got big boos,

526
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: and you make me feel so comfortable, like, oh my god,

527
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: Iry exist.

528
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: Same and I just always walk out feeling very confident.

529
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Speaker 2: And sometimes I've been to fittings in the past and

530
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh am I going to fit the sample?

531
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Speaker 2: Oh like and it can be really I think there's

532
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Speaker 2: a lot of anxiety, and so I thank you for

533
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: creating a very safe space we can come and our pleasure.

534
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: I think that's it.

535
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: You know, Tessa will absolutely vouch me. I can't stand

536
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: trying on clothes and go into weddings I'm very I'm

537
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: the opposite to Tessa, So I think, you know, when

538
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: someone comes in here and I know that they're already.

539
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: Not feeling that comfortable, I know how.

540
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 3: To make them feel comfortable because I know exactly what

541
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: I would want if I was going to I mean,

542
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't get the luxury going to showrooms

543
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: and getting fitted, but when I go to shops, that's

544
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Speaker 3: the service that I sort of want. So you're nailing

545
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: it mate, again and again it's just doing it from

546
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Speaker 3: the other side.

547
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are. We we have to be.

548
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: You definitely are because I'll be like, oh, how would

549
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: you wear? What shoes would you do with this?

550
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Girls? Or I'm always like would this go with this bag?

551
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: And you guys like, yep, go black or go to

552
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: pop a color.

553
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: And it's also great we've got you know, full staff

554
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: and you know there's Tessa and I as well. They're

555
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: in the fashion team and we're good because depending on

556
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: what person comes in on what person would actually serve

557
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: them in the showroom too. So you know, Freda Monty,

558
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: they're you know, twenty five, twenty six, and they're young.

559
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: So when like the young influencers coming the girls know that,

560
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, oh, let's go to Bardo because they're you know,

561
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: a little bit shorter or a little bit tighter and

562
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: the brighter colors, and you know. But then if there's

563
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: someone older that comes in, you know, Tessa, I probably

564
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: better at that and will take them to another brand

565
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: like Feathers or Once Was or even Curly Side of

566
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: Things because you.

567
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: Know they're a bit more conservative.

568
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: So it's whenever we do something, we make sure that

569
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: it makes sense in what.

570
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: We're doing and why we do that.

571
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: Common sense.

572
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, common sense, not that common, but that's what we're saying.

573
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about this before on the Kick podcast. Actually, okay,

574
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 2: so I do want to get to a bit of

575
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean to be failure or lesson, but like

576
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Speaker 2: I remember when you initially sent me your notes and

577
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: you're like we had this deal that we would celebrate

578
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: our wins a bit more, where you were like, we're

579
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: going to is it once a year you want to.

580
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Go out for dinner?

581
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: And it was even once every three months? It was

582
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: don't do it, No, we haven't actually done it. Oh

583
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: we've done it twice in four years almost, And both

584
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: your partners are in like hospitality, So it wouldn't be

585
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: hard for you to be like at the table.

586
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't know, we know.

587
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: So we so basically we went through our first year

588
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: and we hadn't even discussed what had happened. We just

589
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: were like head down, bum up, working, working, working, and

590
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: we would even at the end of an event, we

591
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: probably would go, oh, that was good, Okay, so next

592
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: thing we need to start working on. And I think

593
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: that's really silly. You need to give yourself a time

594
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: to say that's so good, and it's not even honestly,

595
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: it's not even until we have these conversations with people

596
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: like you or whoever it might be, or get interviewed

597
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: or do an article or whatever, that we actually talk

598
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: about it, because you know, I think it's so important

599
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 3: to you know, not be arrogant and be humble and

600
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: say well done, we actually did a good job, but

601
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: not like flawned, how great you've done or you know,

602
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: you've achieved.

603
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: So much or whatever.

604
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: But so we sort of said, hey, let's just go

605
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 3: out for a nice dinner together and just go through

606
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: some stuff where we can say, oh, how good was that,

607
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: and also even a bit of criticism too. We can say,

608
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: next time we would do this or whatever. And it

609
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be in the office, it doesn't need

610
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: to be boring.

611
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: We can make it fun.

612
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but we did it twice and then we didn't do.

613
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 4: It with yeah because I guess because we're friends. But

614
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: then we spend every waking moment together already, so then

615
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: going out for dinner, we'll like we just have to

616
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: set a side of time and then like go out

617
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: and actually enjoy it and be friends as well. So

618
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: it's like a balancing act.

619
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

620
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: And even just taking stock like didn't recently you guys did,

621
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: like too, like music tours like all Australia, like Earth

622
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Gold Coast.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like we tried to out for dinner when we're

624
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: away and that didn't work either because.

625
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: We got to Sandwich boyer.

626
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm met. I'm not met. I was.

627
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I caught up with Pete Sofo recently, who's part of

628
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: the events that you did, and he said the one

629
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: on the Gold Coast was so hard because it was

630
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the New South Wales people in the Gold Coast.

631
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: We got the time mixed mixed out.

632
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 4: Yes, we were in the middle of we were so

633
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: we went for a walk and then we're in Queen.

634
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: And your phone would change.

635
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, my phone was on Queen's Line time and Rachel

636
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: was on New South Wales time the whole time.

637
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny.

638
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: And so for like a massive day event like that,

639
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: that's a proper like festival event.

640
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: How does when does your day start and end? Probably

641
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: for that one, we were pretty lucky.

642
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: We didn't have too much to do with the setup,

643
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: but we obviously would get photos and stuff done in

644
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: our prior to gates opening. And then we said a

645
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: time that the people had to arrive by because again

646
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: for us, it's all about photos and media, so you

647
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: want it to be daylight when they arrived. So we said,

648
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: you know, between one and six pm, and then we

649
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: would stay for an extra hour or an hour and

650
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: more to make sure that, you know, some people still

651
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: don't understand six pm the toun off.

652
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of people did arrive at seven. Yeah,

653
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: so we were.

654
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 3: Still there and then so that kind of ends for us,

655
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, just not too bad like a usual what

656
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: seven hour eight hour day on a Saturdays.

657
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: The travel to Queensland and yeah, and it was back

658
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: to about the weekend so three Yeah, I.

659
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Saw you in between you'd just done Gold Coast or something.

660
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: I think you're about to do Perth and you and

661
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: I were talking because you get a little bit of

662
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: anxiety when you.

663
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: Fly, Yeah, a little bit.

664
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: So can you share a bit about that?

665
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: Yes, Well, it probably comes back to getting older and

666
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 4: getting more like fearful and because it didn't. It started

667
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: when I was probably like twenty twenty two or so,

668
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: and then it's gotten worse progressively over the years. I

669
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: didn't used to have a fear of flying, but it

670
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: does make it difficult with our work because we're always

671
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: flying to Sydney, and I think that is where it

672
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: happens because the Sydney flats often not great. You go

673
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: up and you go down and there's it's more just

674
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: in the middle. That's when I get scared. But Rach

675
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: is really good to travel with, so are some of

676
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: the girls in the office as well, because they don't

677
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: have any issues with it. So I just make sure

678
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: I'm with them or you know, and if I get worried.

679
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: They taught me off a ledge, like I had a

680
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: full melt down in the Queensland one and Rach was like, look,

681
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: it's fine, everyone's walking around look, there's certain dreams. Were

682
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: messaging each yeah, and I messaged Lola literally luckily there's

683
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: Wi Fi in the air now, thank god, So texting

684
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Lalla being like, oh my god, you need to help me,

685
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: and then you're sending me the breathing techniques and that

686
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: really helps as well. So it is it's a struggle,

687
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: but like you've got to do it and get on

688
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: with it. So but it's quite debilitating. I guess you

689
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: would because you just stress about it so much in

690
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: the lead up and then you just I don't know,

691
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: I even going to Perth, I was sick. I don't

692
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: know if I made myself like so stressed that I was,

693
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't know. I just take it, you know,

694
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: as it comes. When we had an event coming up

695
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: soon that it was in Sydney and we were all

696
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: having to fly up and back and you just have

697
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: to get on with it.

698
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: I love the thing that I love most about And

699
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: we haven't spoken about this before about you're so open

700
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: about it with all of your employees.

701
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: Have you noticed, like.

702
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Test like I'm feeling, I've come in and you're me

703
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: will be talking about a flight and you're like you no, no,

704
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: it's going to be to anxiety in it.

705
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Like I love that you kind of own it.

706
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people with anxiety kind

707
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: of like shove it under a rug, don't talk about it,

708
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: and just be like it'll go, it'll go. But you've

709
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: created an environment here where you kind of all very

710
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: honest with one another and how you've been I think

711
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: that that has made you feel probably safer, like you've

712
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: got rape when you fly, or you've got one of

713
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: the girls that they're okay.

714
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: It'd be so much.

715
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Harder if you're isolated and with your feelings and you

716
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: know it's it's just from being out with it. Even

717
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: just say oh, I'm feeling anxious about this situation, it

718
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: always makes you feel better because you can talk to

719
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: someone about it. And in any situation, not even just flying,

720
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: but like even if you're anxious about you know, an

721
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: event that night. You know, we're not the type of

722
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: team to go. You know, we don't say, oh.

723
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: My god, it's amazing, I'm so excited.

724
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: You know, we say internally to our staff, hey, a

725
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: little bit anxious about this, so can someone jump on

726
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: this for me? Or you know, we're thinking about changing

727
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: this up really last minute, blah blah blah, it might

728
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: be crazy, but let's let's.

729
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Give it a go. Or you know, we're so open

730
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: with that, it's we don't.

731
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: We're in a stressful environment. The PR is quite stressful.

732
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: I think they said I read somewhere it was like

733
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: the eighth most stressful job.

734
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

735
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: It's a lot of pressure. And you know, we always

736
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: make sure that we're open with the girls and say

737
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: you can speak to us about anything if you're stressed,

738
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: and like, you know, we have little debriefs and catch

739
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: ups all the time and like check in and see

740
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: how they're going, because you know, everyone gets I think anxiety.

741
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: The word anxiety gets thrown around like at least ten

742
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: times a day in this office.

743
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing.

744
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, because times as soon as you say it,

745
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: someone might you know, respond, and you might it might

746
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: completely go away.

747
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: You might go, oh cool, I didn't even know that. Perfect,

748
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: And I'm glad I brought that up.

749
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: Anxiety looks different from other people too, Like, yes, Tessa,

750
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: you know how you physically feel when you fly, but

751
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: you might, like even rate, you might be in a

752
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: situation where one day you're just like, oh God, in

753
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: a complete environment, You're just like, I just don't feel

754
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: good right now, and I can't put my finger on it.

755
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: That's also I.

756
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: Get really agitated when I'm anxious.

757
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: Tessa always says, you're meeting your legs a lot at

758
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: my desk getting am I getting sick? Or I'm just

759
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: I'm a bit anxious. So everyone's different and we laugh

760
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: about it because I'll go, yeah, it's something not right

761
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: with my legs.

762
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: But I like that.

763
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: I think that's the what I love is that you've

764
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: created such an open space.

765
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm just one more thing on the challenging stuff.

766
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: How and you don't have to share anything specific, but

767
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: how do you go managing like expectations of clients? Like

768
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: I imagine that is a job that would be hard. Like

769
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: do you ever have you ever had like a client

770
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: or and again don't ams and you're just like, oh,

771
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: this doesn't feel Do you have to sometimes walk away

772
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: if things don't feel right?

773
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we have been so lucky.

774
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, we've definitely heard these stories, especially from other per

775
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: agencies and just you know, talking to people in the industry.

776
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: We're pretty lucky with.

777
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: The way that we've got to the point where you know,

778
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 3: we can pick and choose our clients, and we always

779
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: meet people face to face. We always it's really important,

780
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: I think, to get the right connection with your clients,

781
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: and it's really important to get the right brands for

782
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: you and your business. So we are very conscious of that.

783
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like we always over service totally.

784
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: We're just the type of people that we never ever

785
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: would ever want anyone to be disappointed. We would not

786
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: want to be disappointed with our work. Our team is amazing.

787
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: You know, we sit down every single week and go, hey, look,

788
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: I know we've reached our KPIs, but you know, how

789
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 3: do we get a few more blah blah blah, Because

790
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, it is tough times at the moment for retail,

791
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: so we want to push the fashion clients and give

792
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 3: them as much as we can. How do we push

793
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: that more so in terms of us, we want to

794
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: do the best for us, the best for our stuff,

795
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: and the best for the client. So it's it's always

796
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: worked out really well.

797
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: And I'm honestly not sure we're coding that.

798
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: No, Actually, we actually we're actually been really lucky with clients,

799
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: Like we get along with all of them. We like,

800
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: we'd love having meetings with everyone. We'd love catching up,

801
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: Like we would catch up more with our clients, if

802
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: you know, everyone wasn't so busy, it would be great

803
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: if we could go out for lunch, we would happily.

804
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think we're always, you know, constantly updating them.

805
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: We update to the point where it might be annoying.

806
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: You know.

807
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: I think the Yeah, if they know what we're doing,

808
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: and if we communicate to them and we say, oh, hey,

809
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: this person's going to feature something, but it's not going

810
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: to be till March or April, and like you know,

811
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: you're transparent with everything.

812
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's important.

813
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: And being honest with them.

814
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: And if something's not working, we're honest with them too.

815
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: We might say, hey, this color in this collection, people

816
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: just aren't vibing.

817
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if we're.

818
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: Really hoping that we can push forward some of this,

819
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: some of the furthest dials and let's you know, push

820
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: some influences on that, or can we can we have

821
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: some samples and send them to magazines early, like we're food.

822
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: Ones and like you know, something isn't shot correctly and

823
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: yes you can media, yeah that or we use photographers

824
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: that media love, so it kind of takes out the

825
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: middle man always thinking of those ideas and then telling

826
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 4: your clients that to help them, because then that will

827
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: you know, help us to it.

828
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: I feel like your jobs are like the tip of

829
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: the iceberg kind of story, like what we see like

830
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: the final product, the shot that the media has picked

831
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: up or something like that. But then the iceberg underneath

832
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: is like the workload that you.

833
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: Guys kind of cover. That's a good way of putting it.

834
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: That's how it just it just sounds and just on

835
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: that one.

836
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: How you kind of like manage like relationships really well?

837
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: How do you go? Because I don't know. Every time

838
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: I got to.

839
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: An event that is created by you guys, or I'm

840
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: put forward for something with you, everybody in the room

841
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: influences I'm talking about here or guests is generally a legend.

842
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: Now the influencer world is a bit fake and there's

843
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: a few dingoes in that world.

844
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: How on earth have.

845
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: You managed to keep every like, every time I've been

846
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: at something with you, it's just like, you know, it's

847
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: just there's no dickheads in.

848
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: The room because we just don't work with them.

849
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, But out yeah, is that straight enough?

850
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

851
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean we don't like where we again, we pick

852
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: and choose, and it's and it's important, like why would

853
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: you want to work with someone that's difficult?

854
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: So we just don't.

855
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, you know, sorry to say this,

856
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: but I don't care if it's Kim Kardashian, if it's.

857
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Not, if it's not, do you know that?

858
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: You know, so her house in Los Angeles and when

859
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: Hollywood applied three times and they're like, no, oh, there

860
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: you go. Yeah's awesome that someone like a rage might

861
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: be on the door.

862
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: They're going, no, die, absolutely not.

863
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, she's coming.

864
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I think there's you know, life's too

865
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: short and work needs to be enjoyable.

866
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

867
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: So you know, it's so lovely when you say that,

868
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: And to be honest, you're not the first person to

869
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: say that. So many of the girls come and say

870
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: thank you so much. What a great group of girls.

871
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: You know, loved that.

872
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: And my boyfriend's like, can I come to this event?

873
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: It's like, I like the one two events it's into

874
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: My lingerie actually made from that Intermo Linger event that

875
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 2: I came to Abby Gilour and I've become like really

876
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: good mates.

877
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: And we hadn't met before that day.

878
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we sat here next seaks early and because we

879
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: were in Sorrento, we got car together.

880
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

881
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had travelers. We'll always give you travelers travelers.

882
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: But we've become friends as a result of that.

883
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's exactly what we try and do. We're

884
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: not only creating relationships with us and influencers.

885
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: We're wanting to create you know.

886
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: I remember in one of the first years, we had

887
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: an article written about us in the main Review and

888
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: it said one two tribe and they said about our

889
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: group of influencers that actually are also become all friends

890
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: because they're going to all our events together.

891
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we want. Yeah.

892
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: And honestly, if we do hear that something's gone down,

893
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: like a you know, classroom of girls, if we hear

894
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: that something's gone down, then you know someone hasn't done

895
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: the right thing or I don't know, we do question that.

896
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: And the other thing I was just thinking as you

897
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: were saying that, as like, part of my job is

898
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: an influencer.

899
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, when you've been invited to event as a number, you.

900
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: Know that you're there if you're there as a stat

901
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: you can feel it pretty quickly. And the one thing

902
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: about you guys is you've always made it feel like

903
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: you are mates with everybody in the.

904
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: Space because we tailor every single event guest lists to

905
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: every single client.

906
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not we are.

907
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: You need to invite your people to make sense to

908
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: what you're doing. So you know, it wouldn't make sense

909
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: to invite you to a boy's skateboard launch.

910
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a.

911
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: Skateboarder maybe it would be, but you know, totally it's obvious.

912
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's also a reflection for you guys putting

913
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: the work in. So we're almost at the end. Where

914
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: do you want to be two years round? I mean,

915
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: I know you're living the dream now, but like, what's

916
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: the big Like you're already doing it, I know, but

917
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: like you always.

918
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Someone and we said, oh, I don't know, because you're

919
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: already doing it. I think I think we were.

920
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: I'd like to still be where we're at, but I

921
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: think it would be nice to turn the nine to

922
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: five maybe into an actual nine to five and not

923
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: at twenty four to seven. Yeah, pull back a little

924
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 3: bit in two years would be really nice, But then

925
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: still completely be here and oversee it probably impossible.

926
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: I know, well, yeah, you've invite me.

927
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: And stuff on a Saturday before. But okay, I know

928
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: we're putting this THELL next week.

929
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: I just need to do my no Saturday events in

930
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: two years, okay, I know.

931
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: Do you see yourself having this because I see this

932
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: brand being like international? Do you see yourself having a

933
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: going global? I don't only have to fly though, Yeah, no.

934
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: I'd stay in Melbourne so you can be out.

935
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Of private jet.

936
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: So there was like the ones who yeah you do it,

937
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you want big?

938
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, like big planes are fine, I can do.

939
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: That, Yes, get my Kanye.

940
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I think internationally, I mean that would be amazing.

941
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: But in saying that, the market's completely different. Yeah, it's

942
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: like a US p our agency coming here would be

943
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 4: very different for them.

944
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: I just always go big. Yeah you just went really big.

945
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: But it's so doo just like anxiety.

946
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: Be sorry, we've got to fourcat sweaty hairst anxiety.

947
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: It would be nice.

948
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: To be national and that through the talent management. Yeah,

949
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: like that's a and especially influencer talent as well, like

950
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: because everyone kind of goes everywhere.

951
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well yeah, because I guess we are national in

952
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: terms of the media and this is already and doing

953
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 4: events like the music festival spoke about for the love

954
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 4: getting access to, you know, new people in Perth that

955
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: we hadn't worked with or tweettheads, which was amazing. And

956
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: then I guess working with brands like Converse and that

957
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: we actually had to meet with the team from was

958
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 4: it Boston?

959
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: You know you have habits of Boston accent? Did you

960
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: get the Mark Bulberg? I love it.

961
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: There was a couple of them, and you know, meeting

962
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 4: those clients that are from the US or the international and.

963
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: The original head office, Yeah, that was a moment.

964
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: So working with global brands, yeah, and it would be

965
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: cool to do more events interstate, even though because we

966
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: worked with all the.

967
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: Media nationally anyway and all the influencers.

968
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: But you know, it was so cool when we were

969
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: just recently in Perth and all these influencers we've emailed

970
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: them seventy four times, meeting them face to face and

971
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: they're coming up to us and we were in a

972
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: ticket booth and they were sort of saying.

973
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Can you come out so I can give you a hug?

974
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: Because we had these men so that it would be

975
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: nice to do, you know, more travel and meeting them

976
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: more and you know, meeting the media more.

977
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: And I think maybe with them we're kind.

978
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: Of national championships.

979
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: Absolutely, my brain just went to National Cheerleading champions That's

980
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: what mine went to because of that documentary.

981
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Love that show on me too. Same.

982
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 4: I was going to say with beauty, because we've just

983
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: kind of started, I mean, not started with beauty, but

984
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: we're really picked up the beauty clients, which.

985
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Has been really fun for I'm obsessed with growing alchemist.

986
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I know, isn't it great?

987
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: I have my routine down Maurice. Maurice has given not

988
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: only me but my boyfriend. My boyfriend's like, we'll get

989
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: to bed, like, smell my face.

990
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: I've grown up. That's a new one face because it's

991
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: so delicious.

992
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: The smell that detox serum game changer for anyone listening.

993
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: And then Melbourne aren't they Melbourne owned?

994
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and they're like beautiful people. Yeah we love them,

995
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah big sure, Yeah? Can I sign up for some

996
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: oxygen therapy soon?

997
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: I love that.

998
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: You go in we have oxy We'll wait till they're

999
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: store opens. They've got even better options for that.

1000
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible skin, so I think the skincare and

1001
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: beauty and.

1002
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: All that, because that's quite it's all. They're international, but

1003
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: like you know, going to they're stocked in hotels across Australia,

1004
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: so we're looking at doing events, you know, in Brisbane

1005
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: and things like that with them. So that's exciting and yeah,

1006
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: that kind of branches out because it's not just a

1007
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: Melbourne brand.

1008
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: Like a national national champion. We'll go to national, we'll

1009
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: go to the national.

1010
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: I feel like we just.

1011
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: Thank you both so so much for sharing so much

1012
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: of not only yourselves but your entire business.

1013
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Have we missed anything? I feel like we've picked everything else.

1014
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I feel like that way the

1015
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: only thing the only thing that I'm like, I really

1016
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: am just like, oh, I've stopped myself asking because I

1017
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: know you've spoke about an other podcasts.

1018
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: Can you please just quickly talk about your love of Kmart.

1019
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: Everyone knows Cam it's my dream client. So if you're listening,

1020
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: this isn't you.

1021
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: Like it's Tessa wrote down Country Road and I wrote

1022
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: Kmart as our goal as our five year old Praymart

1023
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: home wears mainly, but I've I'm now very much into

1024
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 3: the clothing.

1025
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: Isn't your like ideal night, like little bottle of wine

1026
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: and then just walking the aisles.

1027
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: Of yeah, with there is there's like three girlfriends as well.

1028
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: It's you. It's a very clique group.

1029
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: You can't like I could never take my boyfriend there

1030
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: because that would be a desire.

1031
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: He ruins it most.

1032
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: Of the time because I'll just throw in a lamp

1033
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: and he just says why and I say, because it's

1034
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: five dollars.

1035
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: We basically made money.

1036
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: So so are you wearing your Kmart sneaker?

1037
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: Well, this shirt is from H and M, which is

1038
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: my new kmart from fashion.

1039
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: What does Elliot say?

1040
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: You're Elliott Gano.

1041
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: He's a start Melbourne, very top stylist and he always

1042
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: knows if I'm wearing Kmart or a very cheap brand

1043
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: and yeah, he calls me came out cheek or Camart

1044
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: something last Alex.

1045
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: That's it.

1046
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: He always comes in.

1047
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know if that's a compliment or not.

1048
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: I'd take it, especially from him.

1049
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's to be. Wasn't he like Justinda Campbell's like bestie.

1050
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's he's just yeah, and he's like very

1051
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: in with every crew in everywhere.

1052
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually, he's fantastic. Really, we really.

1053
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: Love some showroom visits.

1054
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: Real we have to minimize him because he ends up

1055
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: being in here for about two hours.

1056
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I'll be like I was just chatting.

1057
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: I feel so bad, so I chat to you guys.

1058
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: Like for him, he sticks around. Sometimes he pulls up

1059
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: the desk and just sits there. Yeah, very funny.

1060
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but yeah, came up. That's the next one. Okay, good.

1061
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I was going to say all big w or Target.

1062
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: That'll be fine too.

1063
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: Thank you both so much for just being completely open

1064
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: and sharing so much.

1065
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: Oh thanks thanks Sola, Big love guys.

1066
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1067
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1068
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: on Instagram.

1069
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lola Berry.

1070
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

1071
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate

1072
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