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Speaker 1: Women share mine.

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Speaker 2: You can go this fore you get your podcasts basically

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Speaker 2: a chance for us to sit down with people and

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Speaker 2: actually ask how they are. I mean really in Australia

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Speaker 2: we probably get asked that a dozen times a day

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Speaker 2: and we tend to dismiss it a double a dozen times.

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Speaker 3: A day just good, yep, good, let.

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Speaker 4: Me just ask them straight back.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and you go, there you go. He's

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Speaker 2: to keep walking. It's very strange. So we got some

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Speaker 2: actually sit down with them and us and what their

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Speaker 2: mood is. And obviously this leads to so much. If

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Speaker 2: you ask someone genuinely how they are, you sort of

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Speaker 2: start diving down deeper through the layers of what makes

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Speaker 2: that up, and you give them space to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You went up in some fascinating areas, so you can

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Speaker 2: hear that with Will Anderson.

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Speaker 4: Just search share my mood wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: And the next guest this week is Kate lane Brook,

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Speaker 2: who shared with us something that I certainly didn't know

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Speaker 2: about her and.

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Speaker 5: I certainly didn't expect to get there from a compliment. Yes,

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Speaker 5: so I'd been sitting on a compliment that I was

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Speaker 5: actually going to direct message her on Instagram after an

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Speaker 3: And yeah, her answer to my compliment was, yeah, it

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Speaker 5: And you is that I feel like you have the

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Speaker 5: freedom of not caring too much what people think of you,

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Speaker 5: whilst not losing any of your mater.

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Speaker 3: Without losing any of your warmth. Well, and I.

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Speaker 5: Feel like that is a really really rare trait, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's because I grew up already. Other so

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Speaker 6: because I was raised to Jehovah's witness and there were

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Speaker 6: never any other Jehovah's witnesses at my school, and we

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Speaker 6: lived in New Guinea and with their only Jehovah's witness

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Speaker 4: So I've always been outside.

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Speaker 2: So you've always had to put up with people questioning

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Speaker 2: And you learned that if you burn them back, then

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Speaker 6: I think also it so the concept of like most

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Speaker 6: As scary for me as because when I left the

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Speaker 6: Then when I left the Witnesses, I was cast out

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Speaker 7: Did they go?

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Speaker 2: When you say you cast out of the Jehovah's Witnesses, does

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Speaker 2: that mean like excommunicated in the old Yeah, were Catholic

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Speaker 6: Well, I wasn't formally, which was really lucky, So I

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Speaker 6: I had five blissful years when they didn't talk.

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Speaker 6: Exactually great because when they were eighteen, when they were

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Speaker 4: And then they were like, I wanted it to be.

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Speaker 6: Right for me.

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Speaker 6: I was like the ironies. I used to pray to

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's a great trap, isn't it. Great

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Speaker 2: conversation with Kitline on Share my Mood, the second guest

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Speaker 2: following Will Anderson, go and check it out wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts to Ship my Mood. What did your

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Speaker 2: child say to get you in trouble? Spoke about this

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Speaker 2: last week, but my daughter's childcare teacher, she's nearly two,

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Speaker 2: let us know. It's obviously difficult on the child. I

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Speaker 2: favorite song is an Alex Cameron song called Divorce Goodbye.

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Speaker 2: She runs around childcare saying goodbye.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel the need to like go, like walk

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Speaker 5: past the childcare with your partner salmon, just like big

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Speaker 2: No, because I think that would maybe solidify the.

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Speaker 4: Compensating for something.

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Speaker 2: I think it's much easier just telling her that the

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Speaker 2: two year olds learned something that she probably shouldn't be repeating. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got some I calls from you guys on this

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Speaker 9: Mom was babysitting her, and she decided that night to

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Speaker 9: tell my mom that I'm a bad mummy because I'm

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Speaker 9: And then a few days later, her school teacher pulled

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Speaker 14: We used the panadoles for pository that have to go up.

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Speaker 9: He love you behind.

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Speaker 7: He goes to his preschool and he tells.

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Speaker 11: The teacher mummy needs to stop putting her finger up

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Speaker 10: My hubby and I used to play around and say, oh,

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Speaker 10: come here, We've got strippers and cocaine, and just to each.

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Speaker 9: Other, just like just a joke. I'll come here instead

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Speaker 7: And he's gone to school and he's gone, hey, I've

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Speaker 4: Came funny call that last one. Still he had to

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Speaker 3: I don't actually have is at their house.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think it's a joke. It's a misguided joke.

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Speaker 5: The child's heard it.

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Speaker 2: In context. I don't understand the context. I cart I

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Speaker 3: He did, he did. We don't want to go into it.

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Speaker 4: Go into it.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to go into it.

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Speaker 2: The story is Josie's called thirty one and six five. Josie,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about what your kids said to get you

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Speaker 9: Hello.

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Speaker 7: I was four years old and my parents owned a

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Speaker 7: deli and in the deli in the in the deli,

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Speaker 7: I'm going there.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to find out how you guys are going

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Speaker 2: to torture me very shortly, and just where that's at

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Speaker 2: big development, huge development, might be negative, might be positive

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Speaker 2: in the torture stakes. Right now, thought me away from

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Speaker 2: torture and under children, light and shade. I love to

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Speaker 2: know what your child said to get you in trouble?

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Speaker 2: Sky Ony, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 4: What did your child say to get you in trouble?

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Speaker 13: He didn't get his match Spots car when we went

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Speaker 13: drag him out of this shop at two years old,

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Speaker 13: he's screaming, I want my mom, I want my mom.

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Speaker 13: he's screaming this out and I'm just like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: Right, But did anyone get involved? There was did anyone

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Speaker 13: I got somebody looks, but surprisingly know nobody tried to.

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Speaker 3: Can I see her? I do things that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: What the child's well, you'd need the child when you

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Speaker 4: Point disprove it. That's the other thing. Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: At that point, the kid goes, no, no, just a gig.

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Speaker 4: This is actually my mother.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Sharon here, Sharon, what did your child say?

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Speaker 3: Or is this is this? You were you the child here?

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Speaker 12: Yes? It was myself as the child. My mother was

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Speaker 12: a prefect at school and she had told us about this,

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Speaker 4: Thanks Sharon, Rachel, Rachel, h it's about my son Kai.

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Speaker 14: He went to kinder and told his kindo teacher that

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Speaker 14: he's poppy. Watch his adult movies. Now, the adult movies

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Speaker 14: were the categoryfore die Hard, But he told the kinder

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Speaker 2: He's probably whatever poppy talking because it's classified as die Hard.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, when you when you're four, that's an adult

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Speaker 4: Was he When he say it's his poppy, he means

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Speaker 4: his grandpa. Yes, well it doesn't. It adds a whole

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Speaker 4: other element. It doesn't it any other day. Let's do

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Speaker 4: you watch die Hard as a kid?

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Speaker 3: Was that in your I recall what is RoboCop? And

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Speaker 5: A bit of a spoiler, but the cop before he

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Speaker 5: becomes RoboCop gets absolutely annihilated five minutes into the film.

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Speaker 4: And as a child, that was very traumatic.

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Speaker 2: The one the MA movie that your parents like accidentally

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Speaker 4: Mine is a long kiss good night.

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Speaker 2: I remember watching that with Yeah, with Gina Davis, I think,

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Speaker 2: And that gets really hectic at the start as well, and.

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Speaker 3: You feel you feel as long as the dad.

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Speaker 5: For me, Dad would be fine, mistake, I'm just going

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Speaker 4: Dad would always go.

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Speaker 3: Well we'll started here now.

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Speaker 10: You know, the host of this show, Will and what

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Speaker 10: How do we teach our boys? Men have to be

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Speaker 2: It's funny, like I'm reading one of them now from

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's kind of getting pretty frustrating now to

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Speaker 3: I'm just joking around.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, there are lots of comments online on Will and

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Speaker 4: We should give it the opportunity to happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's and I hate the fact that we have to

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Speaker 5: I don't know what their views are at this point.

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Speaker 16: It frustrates the hell out of me, it really does.

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Speaker 16: The bottom line is we're all looking at the wrong problem.

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Speaker 16: The problem is us, the adults to Dad's, the guys

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Speaker 16: We've grew up listening to Dad. That's how we do it.

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Speaker 16: We've got to get to a point where our sons

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Speaker 16: Dad doesn't talk about women like that. My uncle doesn't

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Speaker 16: not the mothers. The fathers. This is unacceptable. This is

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Speaker 16: It frustrates me that everything that goes on. I've got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And that's the point that doctor Stephanie

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Speaker 2: made yesterday if you miss the doctor Stephanie Wescott joined

446
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Speaker 2: us and said that these boys it's too it's almost

447
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Speaker 2: too late to it's never too late, but you get

448
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Speaker 2: to the point where they are sixteen, seven and eighteen.

449
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Speaker 2: Two of these boys have been expelled, and as I

450
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Speaker 2: said yesterday, look there's got to be some sort of punishment.

451
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Speaker 2: But it makes me sad that that is. You get

452
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Speaker 2: to the point where I think it's lazy that we

453
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Speaker 2: don't have other ways of educating them earlier. So they

454
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Speaker 2: don't go down this path, which is almost it has

455
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Speaker 2: to be said, having been a teenage boy at a school,

456
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Speaker 2: inevitable that you will get to that point. I think

457
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Speaker 2: one of the top comments on our Instagram and TikTok

458
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Speaker 2: videos was just who leaked the boys WhatsApp thread?

459
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Speaker 4: Because we all know that that's what goes on.

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Speaker 3: But as Mitchell said, I think it's such a good point.

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Speaker 5: Mitchell, it's got to start before going to school.

462
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Speaker 3: You go to school at five six, Yeah, from zero

463
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Speaker 3: to five.

464
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Speaker 4: Teach everything else ready.

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Speaker 2: What we know is that that's when they're exactly that's

466
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Speaker 2: one of the most malleable You and I know that

467
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Speaker 2: about our own daughters. Would that's they're learning everything of

468
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Speaker 2: us right now.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Tom's called Tom. You're a former student of Yarrow Valley Grammar.

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Speaker 18: Good, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this?

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Speaker 18: But I just think it's it's terrible, but the behavior,

474
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Speaker 18: but I just feel for these young women. That's that's

475
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Speaker 18: the thing that I've called a couple of my other

476
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Speaker 18: schoolmates and we've both said the same were also the

477
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Speaker 18: same thing is that we're primary concern, obviously is just

478
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Speaker 18: the welfare of these young women, and we want them

479
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Speaker 18: to know that we you know, we're thinking of them

480
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Speaker 18: and that and obviously it is just clearly unacceptable behavior.

481
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Speaker 18: And look, it's an enormous issue to try and spearhead.

482
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Speaker 18: But I don't know at the same time when when

483
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Speaker 18: these are young men that are getting taught. Yes, some

484
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Speaker 18: of the respectful relationship classes, but the language is so

485
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Speaker 18: pointed in those categories. And this is not as if

486
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Speaker 18: it's a careless sort of a mistake. This is a

487
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Speaker 18: full document with subcategories, color coding, imported images then arranged.

488
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Speaker 18: There needs to be obviously consequences. And look, guys, these

489
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Speaker 18: are young men that are at the age where they

490
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Speaker 18: can get their learners permit. So we're sort of saying

491
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Speaker 18: in one hand that you know, everybody can make mistakes,

492
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Speaker 18: but we're going to get them behind the wheel of

493
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Speaker 18: one and a half tons of steel that can kill people.

494
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Speaker 18: And then say, look, you can take responsibility of a car,

495
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Speaker 18: but you can't take responsibility of a keyboard. The punishment

496
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Speaker 18: obviously will come from doctor Mark Mary And I think

497
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Speaker 18: obviously my time at school was great, it was respectful.

498
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Speaker 18: I don't think that he skirted around the edges of

499
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Speaker 18: any of this. He's taken it on front on, and

500
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Speaker 18: he's not had any kind of political answers to anything.

501
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Speaker 18: I think they've done the right thing, but it's look,

502
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Speaker 18: it's just I just hope these girls are okay, because

503
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Speaker 18: the other thing is that this is not going to

504
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Speaker 18: be just an impact for this week. Of course, we're

505
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Speaker 18: going to impact these women for you know, a long

506
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Speaker 18: period of time, and we do we need to step up.

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Speaker 18: I've shied away like a shrinking violet at times and

508
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Speaker 18: not stood up and and just you know, made my

509
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Speaker 18: voice known. But we all need to do better.

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Speaker 4: Tom, Can I ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: This came up with DOCR Stephanie yesterday and I really

512
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Speaker 2: am fascinated by this. Ward and I both went to

513
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Speaker 2: an all boys school, so I thought this is only

514
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Speaker 2: going to be something that was prevalent at more particularly

515
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Speaker 2: prevalent within Boise culture. But do you think that like

516
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Speaker 2: going to a co ed school is something that can

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Speaker 2: kind of like, well, in my view, should create less

518
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Speaker 2: objectifying as women because you're working next to them, you're

519
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Speaker 2: effectively living with them day to day. But it appears

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Speaker 2: that that didn't happen here. Do you think that going

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Speaker 2: to a school with boys and girls helped you with

522
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Speaker 2: in terms of how you viewed women, of course, of course,

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Speaker 2: I mean in the same spot.

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Speaker 18: Look, I think that the other thing that we can't

525
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Speaker 18: ignore is that is that the way the world communicates

526
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Speaker 18: has changed drastically since the days that I was in school,

527
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Speaker 18: and perhaps since the day that you guys are in school.

528
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Speaker 18: Pornography has definitely changed, and it's tone of what is

529
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Speaker 18: perceived as being the norm now is far more aggressive

530
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Speaker 18: than it was when I.

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Speaker 11: Was a kid.

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Speaker 18: There's characters like Andrew Tatee, there's platforms such as social media.

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Speaker 18: So in terms of the way that we're able to

534
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Speaker 18: or try and educate these kids, legislation can't keep up

535
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Speaker 18: with their start alone techniques with trying to actually with

536
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Speaker 18: actually keeping an hand with these young men. We've just

537
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Speaker 18: got to make sure that we're trying to do the

538
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Speaker 18: best that we possibly can in just stamping out that

539
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Speaker 18: stuff that we might think is inconsequential, but it's just not.

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Speaker 5: Except you're so right though, Tommy, it is a different

541
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Speaker 5: time when we're at school, Like right now, teachers, parents

542
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Speaker 5: are dealing with the fact that every kid's got porn

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Speaker 5: in their pocket.

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Speaker 3: The access to that was not the case when we're

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Speaker 3: at school.

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Speaker 18: I mean, we're so technologically advanced, but in some respects

547
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Speaker 18: we're still back in the frontier of the wild West,

548
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Speaker 18: to be perfectly frank.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks the cool Tom. Sounds like you're doing some

550
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Speaker 2: good stuff there and being at the forefront. Thanks for

551
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Speaker 2: all the guys that have called. We have spoken about

552
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Speaker 2: this for a.

553
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Speaker 4: Long time now, but there.

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Speaker 2: Actually it is great to see a lot of men

555
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Speaker 2: and I'm being told by the producers calling up to

556
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Speaker 2: throw their support behind the fact that they think it's

557
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Speaker 2: really important to continue educating guys younger than when they

558
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Speaker 2: get to teenagers about exactly what this is and what

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Speaker 2: this is about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll keep doing the same thing again.

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Speaker 2: The number one hundred respect if you have been the

562
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Speaker 2: victim of any sort of abuse and Lifeline thirteen eleven fourteen,

563
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Speaker 2: it's Willing Woody.

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Speaker 5: Alone.

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Speaker 4: It's will and Woodies. Can you put some echo on this,

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Speaker 4: j Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I think we all know someone who's in gen Z

568
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Speaker 2: who carries on that that know everything and that we

569
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Speaker 2: are totally ignorant. But as millennials, as progressive millennials, we

570
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Speaker 2: like to give these gen z as a chance. And

571
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Speaker 2: the only person who's in gen Z and our team

572
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Speaker 2: is junior producer and Elise, so we get to test

573
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Speaker 2: who she knows and who we think she should know,

574
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Speaker 2: and vice versa.

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Speaker 4: She gets to check who we know.

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Speaker 3: She thinks we're out of touch with pop culture and

577
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Speaker 3: we think she.

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Speaker 4: Is, and we're going to do that within the context

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Speaker 4: of the met Gala.

580
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Speaker 3: All the people have been to a MET gala.

581
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Speaker 4: Who's more out of touch? Now?

582
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Speaker 2: Who's more out of touch us or the kids? That's

583
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Speaker 2: the big question, Analysa is the kid in the group.

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Speaker 2: She's in the studio, she's from gen Z.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, a be thanks guys.

586
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Speaker 2: Ultimate test today we feel this is this is kind

587
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Speaker 2: of this is our Battle of Waterloo. Now you're gonna

588
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Speaker 2: have no idea what that is. But but but you know,

589
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: I think this, So I think this. I think this

590
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: could be our biggest challenge yet because this is an

591
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Speaker 2: event where we know all of us think we should

592
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Speaker 2: know the celebs that are at the met Gala today.

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Speaker 4: So I think this is the for me, This is

594
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Speaker 4: almost the decider.

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Speaker 2: I almost think we can end the segment after this

596
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Speaker 2: because these have been to be the who's who woulds.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely seventy five thousand dollars a ticket will to the

598
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Speaker 5: met Galas, and only the best of the best is

599
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Speaker 5: going there. So do you want to kick things off

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Speaker 5: a ba? So every single person that we're mentioning today

601
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Speaker 5: is either at the met Gala, which is going on

602
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Speaker 5: right now, or has been.

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Speaker 3: To the met Gala.

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Speaker 5: Just to include a few more older people that will

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Speaker 5: and Iron across.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize we were opening up the valve.

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Speaker 19: Okay, met Gala's luck my AFL Grand Final. So in

608
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Speaker 19: more recent times, I can't say for the older times, but.

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Speaker 3: Who was best dress? Today? We should say best dress?

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Speaker 19: I would say Zendaya. She was one of the co

611
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Speaker 19: chairs and she absolutely slaid. Three outfit changes, my god,

612
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Speaker 19: heart attack.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well let me go to the first one.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Tyler the Creator as in the Rapper.

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Speaker 3: Damn, damn, that is not the creator.

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Speaker 19: There is a Tyler the Creator, but I would have

617
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Speaker 19: said Tyler the Creator, just Tyler of course?

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Speaker 5: Is it Tyler Ferguson from that show with the Families?

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Speaker 4: How do you spell Tyler t y l A.

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Speaker 2: That's just like how the creator does it as well?

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Speaker 2: And right does he just drop the creator? But he's

622
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Speaker 2: not creating them. Okay, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm abody

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Speaker 2: to give you that one, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: She is this girl who sings.

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Speaker 4: Damn, that's a good one.

626
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Speaker 1: She looks so good. She was wearing like this dress

627
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Speaker 1: made of sands.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, that sounds very complicated backwards.

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Speaker 5: First one here, Okay, who is a shanty A shanty?

630
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shanty musician, rapper?

631
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Speaker 3: Bang but songs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the songs, but I know a shanty

633
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Speaker 1: is a rapper.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know what I meantally, probably gonna give it too.

635
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Speaker 4: She's not a rap she's an R and B artist.

636
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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not gonna lie.

638
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Speaker 19: I was a bit nervous with myself there, and I

639
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Speaker 19: started having a bit of self doubt.

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Speaker 1: But I'm strong.

641
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Speaker 4: You did go to the ment girl two thousand.

642
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Speaker 1: I was born that year. You were born.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago.

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Speaker 4: Who have you got next?

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Speaker 1: Oh right, I'm sorry. I was looking at you to

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Speaker 1: give me one. So Charlotte Tilbury, oh.

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Speaker 4: Man, Ti Tilbury.

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Speaker 3: Charlotte Tilbury very popular.

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Speaker 4: I think she makes tea.

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Speaker 5: Charlotte te tea merchant. We're thinking tea merchant. I think

651
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Speaker 5: so comes from a big family of teamakers.

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Speaker 1: No does make something.

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Speaker 2: She's a fashion designer. Tilbury TI makes makers.

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Speaker 4: Didn't know if you know, you know, no one cares?

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Speaker 2: All right, moving ons ab Anals Annals.

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Speaker 4: Who is Diana Ross?

657
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Speaker 1: Oh, actress? Diana Ross is an actress.

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Speaker 4: What was she and what did she do?

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Speaker 1: I don't know alright. I would say she played a

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Speaker 1: princess in a.

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Speaker 3: Movie, Diana Ross Dias.

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Speaker 19: But now I think I'm mistaking that my brain's associated

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Speaker 19: a Diana with princess princess.

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Speaker 1: I know the name, I know the name.

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Speaker 4: Are you doing?

666
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Speaker 3: For a long time, we've been talking about the room

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Speaker 3: that is under my house.

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Speaker 5: Will It was classified by a quasi expert as an undercroft.

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Speaker 3: I hated undercroft.

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Speaker 5: Socially, I was I was an outcast when I was

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Speaker 5: describing my room as an undercroft. It's not sexy, it's

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Speaker 5: not mysterious. I was desperate for the room under my

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Speaker 5: house to be called a dungeon. Well yeah, okay, now,

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Speaker 5: quite selfishly, I just kind of used the radio show

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Speaker 5: to try and think of ways as to how we

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Speaker 5: could be defining it as a dungeon.

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Speaker 3: What proves that it's a dungeon?

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Speaker 5: And we got to the point where if you, as

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Speaker 5: my best friend, were willing to be my prisoner for

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Speaker 5: a short period of time and willing.

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Speaker 3: To be tortured, tortured in the room.

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Speaker 5: Under my house, then yes it would be classified as

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Speaker 5: a dungeon.

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Speaker 4: Which you know, as your friend, I was open to.

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Speaker 2: And weirdly, the West, the West of Austuelia was incredibly.

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Speaker 5: Keen on this, loved the idea. People send it in suggestions.

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Speaker 5: You got to gag him, hang him by his nipples

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Speaker 5: was one suggestion.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we did hit.

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Speaker 5: A small snag when we spoke to him, as it

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Speaker 5: was a criminal lawyer by the name of Justin Quill,

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Speaker 5: and we just wanted to find out, you know, from

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Speaker 5: a legal perspective, is this actually allowed?

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Speaker 19: Right?

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Speaker 4: Can you torture someone?

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Speaker 8: And Quilly said this it's where I give unequivocal advice

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Speaker 8: and know it is not weakly permitted human rights Charter

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Speaker 8: sense something you must have heard of. No, you can't

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Speaker 8: be tortured. Nothing that is inhumane or degrading. That even

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Speaker 8: includes the thing most likely for you guys to be

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Speaker 8: doing to each other, and that is humiliating each other.

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Speaker 8: Anything that is humiliating is considered to be torture.

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Speaker 5: So I can conclusively say our will that the torture

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Speaker 5: interview is over.

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Speaker 3: A sad day.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to all the suggestions, all the support, a

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Speaker 5: lot of people offering big money to come and watch

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Speaker 5: you get tortured in a small room under my house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's important to note here we have

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Speaker 2: obviously adhered to the legal advice and after we spoke

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Speaker 2: to quickly, we ran it.

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Speaker 4: Past our lawyers as well. It turns out he was

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Speaker 4: on the money.

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Speaker 3: Our eyes actually laughed at us. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: a joke.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of money, we have turned down a considerable

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Speaker 2: amount of honey, largely from the only fans community who

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Speaker 2: were very very keen to watch me tortured in all

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Speaker 2: sorts of ways in a dark room.

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Speaker 4: So apologies. I mean I was almost getting to the

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Speaker 4: point where I was looking forward to it. I'd like

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Speaker 4: to say, I mean, there's a weird part. Initially obviously

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Speaker 4: I was terrified.

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Speaker 2: Ye oh, but then it did start to become appealing

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Speaker 2: to me. But unfortunately we have to turn down my

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Speaker 2: desires the cash, and at the end of the day, you,

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Speaker 2: my friend Woody, will also have to say goodbye to

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Speaker 2: the idea of calling that room under your house a dungeon.

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Speaker 4: It will forever be an undercroft.

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Speaker 3: I'm filling it in, you're filling it, filling it in

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Speaker 3: with concrete. There is no longer a room under my house.

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Speaker 20: We're blowing it up, well, we're blowing it up right right,

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Speaker 20: Oh God, Santa Love.

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Speaker 3: We were blowing out mister.

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Speaker 2: Pelly right up next our podcast with Kate Langbrook share

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Speaker 2: my mood.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hear more from her. That was so strange,

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Speaker 4: but it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: How annoying is the law?

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Speaker 2: How's annoying? How annoying is having an undercroft under your house? Demoralizing, debilitating,