WEBVTT - MINI! The team are disturbed by Yumi Stynes's DMs... 😤

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<v Speaker 1>It is the pick Up Tuesday Afternoon with Britt, Laura

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<v Speaker 2>You guys might have heard about the controversy that was

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding Umi Stein's new book that she released. Now. She

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a host on The Pickup and she

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<v Speaker 2>created this book called Welcome to Sex. It's an education piece.

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<v Speaker 2>It's meant to be like a very no fuss and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of all explaining guide, not even guide, but just

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<v Speaker 2>a sex help book for teenagers and early teens. It

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<v Speaker 2>has copped some pretty horrific reviews in terms of some

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<v Speaker 2>people have thought that it kind of is too explanatory

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe shares too much and exposes to children too

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<v Speaker 2>early to things that they're just not ready to learn about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it showing. It's showing different sex acts, how you

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<v Speaker 1>can perform sex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. It's the whole spectrum of what sex

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<v Speaker 2>could entail of self explorer. And this is for children

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<v Speaker 2>who I guess when we were growing up there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really any guide you learned, so much about sexual education, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but also in the playground, like friends from people saying

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<v Speaker 2>things and you'd be like, oh, that's gross. It's meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be an educational guide for children who have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of questions around what is sex. But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk to you guys about is what

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<v Speaker 2>happened over the weekend. So Yumi shared a series of posts,

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<v Speaker 2>and these were private dms that she has been receiving,

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<v Speaker 2>everything from racial slurs to death threats, to people telling

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<v Speaker 2>her that she should go kill herself.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shook to the call when I was maybe sick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely revolting. You can't even read them out at

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<v Speaker 2>this time. Slow on Radio get canceled a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of things that had nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 3>book itself, a lot of racial slurs, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say that the majority of these messages that were

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<v Speaker 2>coming through. If anyone wants to check it out, you

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<v Speaker 2>can jump onto Yumi's Instagram page because she's created a

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<v Speaker 2>really amazing post around accountability. How you can't just anonymously

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<v Speaker 2>troll people and get away with it these days. So

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<v Speaker 2>many of these threats were coming from people's actual accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>from their business accounts. Now Umi posted screenshots, and off

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<v Speaker 2>the back of that, a twenty three year old was

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<v Speaker 2>actually arrested for chargers using a carriage service to menace, harass, efend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy to me, and I think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>real lesson in terms of accountability, that you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>things on a digital platform and get away with it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's real world accountability for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be taken to the courts and there will be

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of you know, accountability, criminal justice that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>given to him. But the thing that I think is

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy about this, this is a twenty three year

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<v Speaker 2>old guy. He doesn't even have kids. He's not worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the safety or protecting the children. He's just jumped

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<v Speaker 2>on the bandwagon after seeing a few awful things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think so much of this conversation was actually really

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<v Speaker 2>racially driven, which is what's really awful. At the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was clicking on a lot of their profiles to see

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<v Speaker 3>who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gobsmacked.

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<v Speaker 3>If you went on their profile and just looked, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, these looked like just nice, normal people,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when you read what they wrote, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I found out my partner had ever written that

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<v Speaker 3>I would be so quick out that door.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's because they think that it's they think it's private,

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<v Speaker 2>they think they're sending that to her and that no

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<v Speaker 2>one's ever going to see it. I shared it on

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<v Speaker 2>my Instagram and the number of people I had message

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<v Speaker 2>to me and say, oh my god, I know that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I went to school with that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is what it is, and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the part like you me sort of signed off

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<v Speaker 2>her Instagram post with welcome to accountability, shit bags. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think so many people do things and think

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<v Speaker 2>that they can be anonymous online, and this just goes

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<v Speaker 2>to show that there are real life consequences for the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you do on Instagram, for the things that

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<v Speaker 2>you write, and for the things that you say about people.

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<v Speaker 1>I get messages all the time telling me to do

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<v Speaker 1>some awful things. They hear me on the radio and

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<v Speaker 1>they go, thought you were a chicks or photos of

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<v Speaker 1>you you got man tits because I'm overweighth and I

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<v Speaker 1>get that all the time. We're a public we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the public eye. Like you get it, britt you get it, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because it's hard and it's such a nuanced discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever feel though, compelled to out those people

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<v Speaker 2>who say those things because they do from their own accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>it's their own words, And so do you ever feel

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<v Speaker 2>like one day you're just going to be like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what here? You deal with the consequences of

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<v Speaker 2>the things you say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm also scared. I mean, these people are aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>The messages that I have in my DMS are scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the stuff that I've been threatened with it's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>And purely it's because you're gay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, purely because I'm gay and I've got great hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think sometimes definitely the hair if I were

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<v Speaker 1>to pose something like this, I don't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>myself at arm. I've got my family on my social media.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a tricky situation to be in. It

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<v Speaker 1>really is. You'd be the same brit You get messages, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because the response that she is getting does

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<v Speaker 3>not fit the crime and does not fit writing a

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<v Speaker 3>book on sex education. I'm not a marginalized group, and

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<v Speaker 3>I get some horrific things written to me as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never thought of calling them out because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I can deal with the repercussions of calling

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<v Speaker 3>them out, because it's not that you call it out

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<v Speaker 3>and it's over. It usually keeps going. There's backlash, there's

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<v Speaker 3>people on the fence of if you should have done it,

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<v Speaker 3>but not as a non marginalized person, I get horrific things.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had some really dark thoughts off the back of

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<v Speaker 3>what some people have said to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess it just goes to show as well

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<v Speaker 2>that so many people do receive such horrible messages and

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<v Speaker 2>very rarely is it posted, and very rarely is there

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<v Speaker 2>this level of accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going through anything like this, So you want

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<v Speaker 1>to chat to someone, Lifeline is always there thirteen eleven fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So stop being a twat, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Message, thank you, welcome to accountability. Stop being a twat.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, britt all right. Next on the show Married

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