Speaker 1: It is the pick Up Tuesday Afternoon with Britt, Laura
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Speaker 2: You guys might have heard about the controversy that was
Speaker 2: surrounding Umi Stein's new book that she released. Now. She
Speaker 2: used to be a host on The Pickup and she
Speaker 2: created this book called Welcome to Sex. It's an education piece.
Speaker 2: It's meant to be like a very no fuss and
Speaker 2: kind of all explaining guide, not even guide, but just
Speaker 2: a sex help book for teenagers and early teens. It
Speaker 2: has copped some pretty horrific reviews in terms of some
Speaker 2: people have thought that it kind of is too explanatory
Speaker 2: and maybe shares too much and exposes to children too
Speaker 2: early to things that they're just not ready to learn about.
Speaker 1: What's it showing. It's showing different sex acts, how you
Speaker 1: can perform sex.
Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's the whole spectrum of what sex
Speaker 2: could entail of self explorer. And this is for children
Speaker 2: who I guess when we were growing up there wasn't
Speaker 2: really any guide you learned, so much about sexual education, yeah,
Speaker 2: but also in the playground, like friends from people saying
Speaker 2: things and you'd be like, oh, that's gross. It's meant
Speaker 2: to be an educational guide for children who have a
Speaker 2: lot of questions around what is sex. But the thing
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you guys about is what
Speaker 2: happened over the weekend. So Yumi shared a series of posts,
Speaker 2: and these were private dms that she has been receiving,
Speaker 2: everything from racial slurs to death threats, to people telling
Speaker 2: her that she should go kill herself.
Speaker 3: I was shook to the call when I was maybe sick.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely revolting. You can't even read them out at
Speaker 2: this time. Slow on Radio get canceled a.
Speaker 3: Lot of things that had nothing to do with the
Speaker 3: book itself, a lot of racial slurs, and I.
Speaker 2: Would say that the majority of these messages that were
Speaker 2: coming through. If anyone wants to check it out, you
Speaker 2: can jump onto Yumi's Instagram page because she's created a
Speaker 2: really amazing post around accountability. How you can't just anonymously
Speaker 2: troll people and get away with it these days. So
Speaker 2: many of these threats were coming from people's actual accounts,
Speaker 2: from their business accounts. Now Umi posted screenshots, and off
Speaker 2: the back of that, a twenty three year old was
Speaker 2: actually arrested for chargers using a carriage service to menace, harass, efend.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me, and I think this is a
Speaker 2: real lesson in terms of accountability, that you can't do
Speaker 2: things on a digital platform and get away with it anymore.
Speaker 2: But there's real world accountability for it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It'll be taken to the courts and there will be
Speaker 2: some sort of you know, accountability, criminal justice that'll be
Speaker 2: given to him. But the thing that I think is
Speaker 2: so crazy about this, this is a twenty three year
Speaker 2: old guy. He doesn't even have kids. He's not worried
Speaker 2: about the safety or protecting the children. He's just jumped
Speaker 2: on the bandwagon after seeing a few awful things. And
Speaker 2: I think so much of this conversation was actually really
Speaker 2: racially driven, which is what's really awful. At the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I.
Speaker 3: Was clicking on a lot of their profiles to see
Speaker 3: who they are.
Speaker 1: I was gobsmacked.
Speaker 3: If you went on their profile and just looked, you'd
Speaker 3: be like, oh, these looked like just nice, normal people,
Speaker 3: and then when you read what they wrote, I was like,
Speaker 3: if I found out my partner had ever written that
Speaker 3: I would be so quick out that door.
Speaker 2: But it's because they think that it's they think it's private,
Speaker 2: they think they're sending that to her and that no
Speaker 2: one's ever going to see it. I shared it on
Speaker 2: my Instagram and the number of people I had message
Speaker 2: to me and say, oh my god, I know that guy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I went to school with that. And
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what it is, and I
Speaker 2: loved the part like you me sort of signed off
Speaker 2: her Instagram post with welcome to accountability, shit bags. And
Speaker 2: I just think so many people do things and think
Speaker 2: that they can be anonymous online, and this just goes
Speaker 2: to show that there are real life consequences for the
Speaker 2: things that you do on Instagram, for the things that
Speaker 2: you write, and for the things that you say about people.
Speaker 1: I get messages all the time telling me to do
Speaker 1: some awful things. They hear me on the radio and
Speaker 1: they go, thought you were a chicks or photos of
Speaker 1: you you got man tits because I'm overweighth and I
Speaker 1: get that all the time. We're a public we're in
Speaker 1: the public eye. Like you get it, britt you get it, Laura,
Speaker 1: And it's because it's hard and it's such a nuanced discussion.
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel though, compelled to out those people
Speaker 2: who say those things because they do from their own accounts,
Speaker 2: it's their own words, And so do you ever feel
Speaker 2: like one day you're just going to be like, do
Speaker 2: you know what here? You deal with the consequences of
Speaker 2: the things you say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm also scared. I mean, these people are aggressive.
Speaker 1: The messages that I have in my DMS are scary.
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff that I've been threatened with it's terrifying.
Speaker 3: And purely it's because you're gay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, purely because I'm gay and I've got great hair,
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes definitely the hair if I were
Speaker 1: to pose something like this, I don't want to put
Speaker 1: myself at arm. I've got my family on my social media.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a tricky situation to be in. It
Speaker 1: really is. You'd be the same brit You get messages, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: It's funny because the response that she is getting does
Speaker 3: not fit the crime and does not fit writing a
Speaker 3: book on sex education. I'm not a marginalized group, and
Speaker 3: I get some horrific things written to me as well.
Speaker 3: I've never thought of calling them out because I don't
Speaker 3: feel like I can deal with the repercussions of calling
Speaker 3: them out, because it's not that you call it out
Speaker 3: and it's over. It usually keeps going. There's backlash, there's
Speaker 3: people on the fence of if you should have done it,
Speaker 3: but not as a non marginalized person, I get horrific things.
Speaker 3: I've had some really dark thoughts off the back of
Speaker 3: what some people have said to me.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it just goes to show as well
Speaker 2: that so many people do receive such horrible messages and
Speaker 2: very rarely is it posted, and very rarely is there
Speaker 2: this level of accountability.
Speaker 1: If you're going through anything like this, So you want
Speaker 1: to chat to someone, Lifeline is always there thirteen eleven fourteen.
Speaker 1: So stop being a twat, good.
Speaker 3: Message, thank you, welcome to accountability. Stop being a twat.
Speaker 1: Thank you, britt all right. Next on the show Married
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