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Speaker 1: Hates, Will and Woody.

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Speaker 2: All the best comedians doing all the festivals all over

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Speaker 2: the country, and one of the best is Luke.

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Speaker 1: McGregor in the studio with us right now.

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Speaker 2: Tickets to Luke's show Okay Wow are available for comedy

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 1: Todd are you. I haven't actually read the show title yet,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, aggressive.

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Speaker 3: It's my ten year old son when I do something

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Speaker 3: he doesn't like, like if I have to go to

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Speaker 3: the toilet, and he just he's following me in there

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Speaker 3: because he wants to keep talking about Minecraft, of course,

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Speaker 3: and I close the door and lock it so he

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Speaker 3: can't follow me, and he goes, Okay, well you've locked

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Speaker 3: the door.

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Speaker 2: So what is it.

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Speaker 1: It's like disdain with surprise?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like surprise Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's where you're at.

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Speaker 3: Wow. And I just just cracked me up so much.

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Speaker 3: Ended up on the show that the artwork was my

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Speaker 3: my fourteen year old did it illustrated the Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So it just using your kids to do all your work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I provide their food and housing you

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Speaker 3: but but yeah, it's optional. They didn't have to do it, but.

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Speaker 2: Lots changed as you did your last show eight years

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Speaker 2: since a full Sandard show.

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Speaker 3: I've had a haircut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gooks really good.

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Speaker 1: And your dad recently is that rather a fresh one?

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Speaker 3: Well, recently we've got I've got two children. Who's the

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Speaker 3: ten year old in the fourteen, I've got two step kids,

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Speaker 3: and then I just had a baby.

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Speaker 4: Congrats four months.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. That means, look, I really appreciate that. A

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Speaker 3: text on the day. Yeah, it's great. They're they're they're

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Speaker 3: a little cutie. They have just decided, after four months

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Speaker 3: of pretty smooth sailing, that sleeper is overrated. They're like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing much during the day, I don't need

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Speaker 3: to have this schleep. Sure, And because they can't do

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Speaker 3: anything yet, they're like, and I'll need you to I'll

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Speaker 3: need you to pick me up. Kind of stuck here.

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Speaker 3: That's been hard.

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Speaker 5: But how does that chat go with your partner when

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Speaker 5: you noise middle of the night? And because well and

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Speaker 5: I both have young kids as well, yours been over to.

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Speaker 2: Half they're the same age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, we sinked up.

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Speaker 1: We think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all content rights.

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Speaker 1: That's a good bit. It's a two year story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, run in time for ratings week.

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Speaker 4: So how does that chet go? In the middle of

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Speaker 4: the night when it's like, you know, one of you

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Speaker 4: needs to.

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Speaker 3: Go we we at the moment have just both get up,

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Speaker 3: so Amy will feed them and then I'll change and

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Speaker 3: brip them. But it all depends like if one of

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Speaker 3: us has to get a but like five the next

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Speaker 3: day and the other one doesn't. But usually both of

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Speaker 3: us get up just because we wake up anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if Amy's feeding the baby and I'm like, I go, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to sleep, just feels weird,

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Speaker 3: so I just stay up. This doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't you have this like you never feel it

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Speaker 2: more of a piece of shit.

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Speaker 1: In your life than when they're like feeding and.

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Speaker 3: You're just like you yeah, because and then when you

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Speaker 3: do fall asleep.

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, let's say it happens.

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Speaker 3: I've got sleep at mere so I need a little

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Speaker 3: mask as well as I start snoring real bad. It's

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Speaker 3: one of the issues with being a virgin for so

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Speaker 3: long as you don't know what sleep issues you've got.

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Speaker 3: I'm courage and listening to get out there and stay safe.

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Speaker 4: And then do a question and the next morning, what

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Speaker 4: am I doing during the.

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Speaker 3: Night for me to go back to sleep, I have

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Speaker 3: to put take a lot my mask back on, so

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Speaker 3: then it's a real like so I just stay up.

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Speaker 1: So you can't casually you can.

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Speaker 3: I can't drift off because I had to put the

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Speaker 4: That you would hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Like, are you purposely trying to alienate your audience? Like

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Speaker 3: you've just said, have you having a great drive home? No,

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Speaker 3: everyone's driving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that. Live feedback.

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Speaker 2: Where is this three sixes after someone said it said it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I'm walking. I'm like, I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: Goes out there to the people that are on the iHeartRadio, Appy.

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Speaker 3: Anyone outside the studio, just think through the grape through

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Speaker 2: It's a fair shout. Actually it's a fair shout. Actually

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Speaker 2: I haven't thought about that, and it always has been.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it even says it on our bloody poster

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Speaker 2: woods for the drive home, and it's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Why I only listen to I only listen to it

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Speaker 3: when I'm when I'm driving because I thought, you know, lad, otherwise.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, losing the people the tram catches.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere else. Really saying we don't want you, isn't it

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Speaker 3: should be willing more Will and Woody for Earth Maximize,

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Speaker 3: maximize your audience for breathers. Yeah, we're here. I want

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Speaker 3: to talk.

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Speaker 1: So does brother?

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Speaker 2: Anybody that you avoid conflict at all costs except.

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Speaker 1: Just then, I guess, yeah, came at me.

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Speaker 3: It was well, it should have been Willing, Woody and

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Speaker 3: Luke until the until the breakup, until the accident. Exceptredice.

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Speaker 1: I've never been attacktifying before. It felt good for me.

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was a bit of.

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Speaker 4: Are you trying to do it more? Are you trying

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Speaker 4: to attack more?

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Speaker 3: No? I because I've got kids now. If something goes wrong,

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Speaker 3: if they don't get something, which I would normally just

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Speaker 3: let fly, and they're like, I really do want my

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Speaker 3: six nuggets? Oh yes, And I'm like, yeah, that's fair enough,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to go back and drive back to McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: You didn't give me the six nuggets. I don't have

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Speaker 3: the receipt, but.

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Speaker 1: So I'm getting fold like a back of cards.

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Speaker 3: Normally I would just like that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I said, well, do you know got this

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Speaker 2: conversation the other day about you got to teach them consequence,

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Speaker 2: Like if you do that and I say you can't

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Speaker 2: on the you know, I'm going to take that away

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Speaker 2: is thing. Otherwise you just you're a walkover and they

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Speaker 3: I think the kids' test boundaries, but like, whatever works now,

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Speaker 3: you have to do something that works when they're.

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Speaker 1: An adults as well.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen and tall. So any punishment that revolves around you

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Speaker 3: being big in control, yeah, it doesn't work. So it's

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Speaker 3: good advice. The downside, I guess that that is I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, to be fully transparent. If you had

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Speaker 3: I'm very grateful that you choose to.

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Speaker 4: Like emotional black. It would be very sad.

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Speaker 3: My dad used to smack me, which is old school,

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Speaker 3: you know, but it was that thing was once I

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Speaker 3: got older, nothing he did work like all the past

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Speaker 3: that all of your tools relied on me being little there.

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Speaker 3: So I've been really careful with the children just to like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So and you know, just smacking in general, don't do it.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's I always remember that moment where a

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Speaker 1: Sorry, can I ask you tell me if this is

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Speaker 3: I guess it's.

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Speaker 2: Radio Like, do you remember distinctly the moment when the

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Speaker 1: And you can't.

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Speaker 3: Dad was very He didn't like apologizing because I think

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Speaker 4: Pretty classic male of that generation.

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Speaker 3: And like his childhood was really hard, a lot harder

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Speaker 3: You just know what you're going through. It was I

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Speaker 3: want them to do what is quote unquote right because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they love you and or they know it's right

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Speaker 5: because I know it's the right thing to rather have

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Speaker 5: to do that like you want.

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Speaker 3: To, because that's how you be, that's how they that's

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Speaker 3: how you're training for life, right, is that you want

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Speaker 3: it's good for them, whether it's prushing their teeth or

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Speaker 3: whereas you know, because my and I'm sorry this is

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Speaker 3: The the other thing that made me really so the

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Speaker 5: Got older, rather than being scared of whereas I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't tell my parents anything, so I was worried

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Speaker 3: Robbed a bank and I'm like, Okay, you're not in trouble,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about fixing this. Yes, I want to be there,

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Speaker 3: go to And I think if it's if you raise

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Speaker 3: your kids with fear, you don't, you're not You're not that,

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Speaker 3: which means you can't help them in their moments of

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Speaker 4: It's bank rubbing. The number one concern for.

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Speaker 3: You is yeah, yeah, they've already They've alread Robbed three.

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Speaker 3: They're so good at it. I shouldn't have let them

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Speaker 3: play Payday on the PC. But yeah, it's And the

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Speaker 3: other thing was to my part of like being with

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Speaker 3: I'll forgive them. But then when I had my kids,

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Speaker 3: I've got more money than my parents had back of

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Speaker 3: the day. Dad had a lot of harder childhood than me,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It's really it's tricty.

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Speaker 2: It's outrageous that you that you like the lens that

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Speaker 2: you have for your parents.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always way.

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Speaker 2: I certainly have had this moment a number of times parenting,

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Speaker 2: And then I think the moment that you become a parent,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had this moment a number of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, how are you guys finding it? You were

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Speaker 3: It's really easy to not.

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Speaker 2: Be that yeah, yeah, exactly, Like you have those moments,

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Speaker 2: But then I also have the other side of the

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Speaker 2: particularly on where I'd catch myself and be like, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: You find I Sam and I and my partner and

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Speaker 2: I like we've talked about it ad nauseum when we

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Speaker 1: How can you help me with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know, because you have lots of parts of yourself

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Speaker 2: you do something, you don't want to do that, but

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Speaker 1: Let's not parent like that.

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Speaker 2: How do we change the behavior?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what was you know, we weren't demonstrated

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Speaker 3: the best techniques, and so that's how default. We've got

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Speaker 3: to try and out of it.

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Speaker 5: And you pick out and your partner like the moments

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Speaker 5: where it's like I think you're doing that thing, which

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Speaker 5: is clearly saying that your parents did with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing that. Yeah my parents did to me

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Speaker 4: and I could talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really Yeah, it's hard, it's how and it's

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Speaker 3: our default reaction and then we've got to pull back.

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Speaker 3: And and also the kids are like asking things where

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Speaker 3: they're like, how would you deal with this? And you're like,

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Speaker 3: like you just got to you know, just know that

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Speaker 3: you know they're doing it because they they're they're acting out,

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Speaker 3: or maybe they're jealous of you, so just let it go.

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Speaker 3: Whereas in my mind I'd be like, I still remember

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Speaker 3: how I deal with that. I'd be like, I still

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Speaker 3: have grudges. You're trying to tell them, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: As you bring out your list of people that I'm

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Speaker 3: Kick them the chins at the scory again, like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, it's been really good to have you. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. Thanks for sharing that.

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Speaker 3: I think I think drive time commercial radio is the

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Speaker 4: Get that absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And then just go straight to something on, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then just flick it out on. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 3: love that. Thanks having me on. I appreciate it, And

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Speaker 2: is Kesher, your great Luke McGregor. He's doing all the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get around there, get around there yeah, yeah, what

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Speaker 1: do I not?

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