1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. Sometimes it's nice 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: to escape the daily grind. Sometimes it's nice to step 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: away from parenting and step in to I don't know, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: like just being a normal person who has time to 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: read a book. I know it's a luxury. I know 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: not everyone gets to do it, but there's something almost 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: sacred about reading. It's an indulgence, a form of intellectual 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and emotional nourishment that feeds part of me that not 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: much else reaches. And at the end of the year, 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: at the start of the year, every year I write 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a blog, I write an article about my best books 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: of the year just gone. And it was just yesterday 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: or the day before that we realized we haven't done 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: it this year. So missus Happy Families has her book 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: lists all ready to go. I've got mine as well. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: After the break, we talk about our best books of 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. If you're a reader, I hope that 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: you love this episode. Stay with us. Hello and welcome 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: to the Happy Family Podcast, where you get real parenting 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: solutions every single day except today on Australia's moost downloaded 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: parenting podcast. Why except today? Well, we are Justin and 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: Kylie Colson and normally we're talking parenting, but today we're 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: talking books. Our favorite books of twenty twenty five. Normally 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: we talk about this at the end of the year, 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: or maybe at the start of the year. I can't remember, 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: but we've kind of let it slip. It its February 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: and I just realized, So, Kylie, let's follow the usual pattern. 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: You first, what were your favorite books of last year? 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much honesty you want right now, 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: but I literally completely just grabbed last year's diary out 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: of the rubbish pin, right, because did you actually I did? 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: I literally did. 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Diary is done and taken to a February. 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: Because you asked me how books I read, and I 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I read that in last year's Diary, 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: and I'd only just decided to get rid of it. 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at this list of books that I 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: read in January and February of last year. 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: You stopped the list. 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I stopped the list stop reading. I 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: think I stopped reading. 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Lives like that. 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: And the only reason I can tell you with all 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: certainty that I did read Essentialism by Greg McKeon is 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: because as I go through the pages of my diary 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: from last year. I have filled it with quotes that 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: came from the book. They are brilliant. 48 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: You don't remember it. 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember reading. 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: It's really bad. It's a good book. It is a 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: good book. Can I read a few quotes? 52 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Since I don't have a review, you can determine whether 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: or not it's worth reading based on these. Tell me 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: what is it you plan to do with your one, 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: wild and precious life. 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: He didn't say that that's somebody else's. 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: It is somebody else's, Mary Oliver, but it was in 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: the book right. It's not about getting more things done, 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: it's about getting the right things done. If you don't 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: prioritize your own life, someone else will. I feel that 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: all the. 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Time, pushing buttons. There someone not respecting boundaries. 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: And we can either make our choices deliberately or allow 64 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: other people's agendas to control our lives. The thing, the 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: ability to choose, cannot be taken away or even given away. 66 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: It can only be forgotten. So you read Essentialism and 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: did and you read it was clearly a brilliant book, because, 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: like I said, every other page is full of quotes. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: You said that you had January and February books plural. 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: Was there anything else that's worth talking about? 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: No, No, you're cracking up. Most of them were church related. 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: I did read the Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins, yeah, 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: which I do remember that. 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it. I didn't like it at all. 76 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was a five page book that was 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: stretched out for two hundred and eighty pages. 78 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, when you think about the fact that we need 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: to hear things repeatedly for them to sink and for 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: you're making fun of me. But I actually, as a 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: woman who has been conditioned to believe that it's my 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: job to control everything in my environment, learning to actually 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: let other people make their choices for good or bad 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: is really hard. Like it's completely a retraining. It's a 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: reconditioning of everything I've grown to believe is my role. 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: So you rated the book, I did write it, I didn't. 87 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: I did, and I think. 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: That it was I think that it was a necessary book. 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, anything else on your book because I'm 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: asking because I have a lot to talk about today. 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: It did take me take me about seven months to 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: finish the last book that I read. But again, another 93 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: church book, right, and what's so crazy about it? And 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: this is this is the crazy thing is I actually 95 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: saw this guy speak and I loved what he shared, 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: like it revolutionized the way I saw my life. And 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: I just struggled to pick up a book. You know, 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: there are times in our lives where I just I 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: feel so encumbered by life that the idea of taking 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: someone else's thoughts on is just beyond me. 101 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: Okay, can I do my turn? How many books did 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: you read this last look? Well, I didn't actually read 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: as many as normal. The indulgence of book reading was 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: really hard to come by because, because you're right, I 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: was writing and rewriting and rewriting and rewriting my book 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: about boys, which comes out on June too, And you 107 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: can join the wait list for the book. Oh my 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: website Happy families dot com dot Are you just putting 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: it out there? The book I'm holding. I'm holding a 110 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: copy of it. Nobody can see it, right, I know, 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: but I'm just going to see I'm holding it. It's 112 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: called Boys, Building Strong young Men from the inside out. 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: Not what today's podcast is about it all, But if 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: you're raising tween of teen boys, this is the book 115 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: that you definitely want and I'm just looking at the 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: cover makes me happy, I does, I'm so excited. 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: And and again I look misconnection. Yeah, you've got this 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: really angsty teenager. 119 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: On, this teenage girl who's looking at the camera like 120 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: come on, bring it on. Yeah, yeah, define, let's go. 121 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: And then the cover of this, you've got a couple 122 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: of boys who are just so carefree, and they looks 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: like they jump. 124 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: Rocks into the water, into the water. I can't even 125 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: see their faces though, Like it's just these these these 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: bodies enjoying life and everything that you can throw at it. 127 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: It's wholesome childhood at its best. 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: And what I love about that depiction is just if 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: we can just bottle that up, so we can bottle 130 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: up that beautiful, positive, exciting energy of boys and help 131 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: them to navigate the challenges ahead. 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: You really don't want me to do my book reviews? 133 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: Do you'd rather talk about the book that I wrote 134 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: that stopped me from reading books this year? I'm feeling 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: you know what's coming, that's why, isn't it? You're just 136 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: just stalling. I read twenty five books this year. 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Wow, which that's about half what you normally do. 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, normally get somewhere between forty and fifty twenty five books, 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: smallest canon years because writing and rewriting and refining arguments 140 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: and wrestling with work and trying to articulate ideas that 141 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: were urgent but elusive is what my year was. Nevertheless, 142 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: even in a year of fewer books, there were a 143 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: handful of transformative And we're going to have to do 144 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: it after the break. Now, how am I going to 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: get through eight books? My eight frames? 146 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: You're not going to get through eight books? 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: How many am I allowed? 148 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: You're that too? 149 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Once? 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: And two terrible ones? 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: Well I didn't. I didn't keep a record of the 152 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: terrible one. No, actually I did, but I'm not. I 153 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: just I can't throw shade at people because writing a 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: book is such an it's such a big deal. But 155 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it just feels unfair to tell people. 156 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: All Right, So here's the deal. You can share two 157 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: books that transformed your life, and you can share two 158 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: books that you read that was super fun. 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Okay, after the break, the best books that you should 160 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: read this year based on what I read last year. 161 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Stay with us. We're back as the Happy Families podcast. 162 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I feel like I'm under so much 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: pressure this is kind of the pad and of every 164 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: one of our book club book discussions, isn't it. I 165 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: get excited about too many books and then you get 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: cranky at me and tell me that I'm not allowed 167 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: to talk about them. Let me do my two best 168 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: books of the year. I'm just I only put eight 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: in this time, like I was really really well behaved, 170 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to talk about essentialism. I also 171 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: read it last year. You've already talked about it. I'm 172 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: going to cross that off. Also, I read two memoirs 173 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: from Victoria Vanstone. One was called A Thousand Wasted Sundays 174 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: and the other was called Mumming. They were delightful and 175 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I loved them, but I'm not going to talk about 176 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: them either. Okay, So that takes three off eight straight out. No, 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm not cheating, not cheating. I also read some classic 178 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: literature that is so durable. I read nineteen eighty four 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: by George Orwell and Lonesome Dove by Larrying Murtry, and 180 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I completely I inhabited Bluntsome Dove, and nineteen eighty four 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: was so precient, like I was written in nineteen forty nine, 182 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: and it felt like it was about what's going on 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: right now in terms of the political landscape. So rather 184 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: than talking about them, I'm just going to talk about 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: two books, because that's what you said I could talk about. 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? First one, Careless People, a memoir by 187 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Sarah Win Williams. You're looking at it right now, it's 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: directly above your head. This is my non fiction book 189 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of the year. So I picked it up. And everybody 190 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: knows how I feel about Facebook. The people who run 191 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: it are the most mendacious people on the planet. I 192 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: think that Facebook is responsible for more suffering, particularly for 193 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: young people on our planet, than perhaps any other Specifically, 194 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg is responsible for more suffering in the lives 195 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: of young people than any other person who has ever 196 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: inhabited the planet. By the time I finished the book, 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: I could not find words to describe my revulsion when 198 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: it comes to meta and what they're about. When Williams 199 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: doesn't just critique, she was working at the highest levels, 200 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: like she was catching Zuckerberg's private playing with him to 201 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: go and meet with presidents and prime ministers. She prosecutes, 202 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: and she very very clearly. I mean, she has to 203 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: have so much evidence for what she's saying because otherwise 204 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Facebook would take her down in court, and they haven't. 205 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: She lays the Rahinga genocide in Myanmar entirely at Facebook's feet, 206 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: deaths of despair, points a finger at Facebook the erosion 207 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: of our democratic institutions Facebook. This is a meticulously documented 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: indictment of what happens when a company prioritizes engagement metrics 209 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: over human welfare. And the thing that I found most 210 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: challenging about it is that nothing's going to change. So 211 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,239 Speaker 1: the book left me furious. It left me feeling helpless 212 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: and just profoundly unsettled, which is precisely why the book matters. 213 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: And I wish more people would read Careless People by 214 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Sarah Winn Williams more politicians, particularly because it could actually 215 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: change the world if they did. 216 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: So. 217 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: That's my first of the two that you've given me 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: to talk about. Super Blue by Nicholas Carr. I loved it, 219 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: but I'm going to move instead to Searching for Normal 220 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: by Sammy to Mimi, which we did talk about of 221 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: the podcast a couple of times last year. It's dense, 222 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: it's often technical. Occasionally it's just way too wordy, but again, 223 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I just think it's absolutely essential for the same reason 224 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: like Careless People, it's a brilliant book that's unsettling, and 225 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: it matters tremendously. Raises really complex questions about big farmer, 226 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the mental health industrial complex, the usefulness of psychology and psychiatry, 227 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and it asks a whole lot of questions that people 228 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: in psychological and psychiatric practice particularly would rather avoid. I 229 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: think that I think that this is a book that's 230 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: going to have more impact on my work than maybe 231 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: anything else that I read in twenty twenty five, and 232 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely forced me to reconsider systems and diagnoses and 233 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: interventions and ways of doing psychology that I've long long 234 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: considered normal and taken for granted. Searching for Normal Normal 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: by Sammy to Mimy. So there you go. There's my 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: book list. That's my best books I've read in twenty 237 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: twenty five, and I think I did it fast and appropriately. 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: Any feedback, any response, I'm impressed, Thank you, I feel did. 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: You read anything that was fun? 240 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, A Victoria Events, Stone Books, Mumming, and 241 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: A Thousand Wasted Sundays were definitely fun. And as I 242 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: quickly scanned through the list of others, I mean I 243 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: only read twenty five, So it's not a particularly deep list. 244 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I really there's a couple of books that 245 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: I really wanted to love but they just didn't get 246 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: me there, Like Green Lights by Matthew mcconnie. 247 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: I was looking at that and I'm like, I'm pretty 248 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: sure I read that last year too. 249 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I read it. I think you told me 250 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: that you really liked it. I mean, fascinating story, huge adventure, 251 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: nice insights, an amazing life, a guy who's really aware 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: of the change and the growing up and maturation that 253 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: he's been through. I just I gave it a four. 254 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't a five, and I think that's probably probably 255 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I read a lot of serious 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: stuff last year, and I was so absorbed in the 257 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: book that I was writing, well, I'm. 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: Pretty impressed because I think that was the shortest book 259 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: review you have ever. 260 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: Done, and it was a whole year. 261 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's only because you read half the books. 262 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: That I know, none we would care. Maybe I'm off 263 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: to a good start this year, though. Oh my goodness, 264 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I've just closed the cover of the most exquisite novel 265 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: I've ever read. I think, I mean, I loved Lonesome 266 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: dub that was pretty that was pretty exquisite. But A 267 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Gentleman in Moscow you can't share that yet by a hotel. 268 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: That's going to be next year's fiction book of the 269 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Year for sure. Oh my goodness. That was like seventy 270 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: five out of five. That was You've got to read it. 271 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I've read two books to start this year, 272 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: so I'm doing well. 273 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: That's about how many you wrote down that you read 274 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: last year. 275 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: That's right. 276 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on track. Yeah, you're doing really, really well. 277 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Let's see how the rest of the year goes. Hey, 278 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening. 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Says you don't read fun books. I just finished reading 280 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: the Thursday Murder Club. 281 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm reading something fun now. That's why I'm reading Richard 282 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Osman not loving it after reading A Gentleman in Moscow 283 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: and it's just so good. 284 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: It was so much fun, so much fun. 285 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: All right, number of book clubs until next year, but 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: we'll look forward to seeing it tomorrow. 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