1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Women, would you that bite sized were there? What are 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: My partner, who is currently Sammy, is nearly at the 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: forty two week mark of our her pregnancy. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: So two weeks overdue for those plane at heart. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Two weeks overdue. Now, they say that first babies technically 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: should come a couple of weeks later. I have heard that, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: and that's for most, that's for most kids, for most 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: first berths, most not all. 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: My electrician actually told me, and you know, take it 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: with a grain of salt because it's my electrics. 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: There's another bloke weighing in on this. Yeah, yeah, great, 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: not far. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: He said that five percent of pregnancies first time first 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: pregnancies for women, only five percent will happen before or 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: on the Jue date. 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the funny thing is, like Jude dates are 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: just a ridiculous thing. Yeah right, upset. We were in 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: at the hospital yesterday actually getting a scan and stuff 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: because as you get closer to forty two weeks, everyone, 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta be careful about how safe 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the baby is and stuff like that, so you do 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: extra scans and stuff. 23 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Why does it get unsafe if they're in there for longer? 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: What's the unsafe thing. 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: I think it's just the fact that like, well, okay, 26 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: so I don't want to get too technical on this 27 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: because I don't know the exactly ins and outs, but 28 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: when the baby is due in inverted commas is very 29 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: much a magical thing. They don't really know how or 30 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: why the baby communicates to the rest of the body 31 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: that it's good to go. But that just happens. Yeah, okay, 32 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: So if it goes for longer than that, you get 33 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: issues with the placenta, the amniotic fluid and all those 34 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: sorts of things. So that might happen. Okay, So that's 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: why there's more and more concern as you build up 36 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: to two weeks over hence why you got the scams 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: and still have a berth later on. Lots, I mean 38 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: lots of people, particularly if they don't get induced. But 39 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: it just gets to a point it's it's comfortability and 40 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Sure, but and and 41 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can to try and induce the birth. 42 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things you can do. Raspberry leaf 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: tea is one of them, Chili is another one of them. 44 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: You were doing hop scotches or something hop scotches, Well, 45 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: we caught up with Chris Smith this morning. I named 46 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: drop and you guys started, yeah, use that a gender 47 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: mad baby stuff. I was very much out of the conversation. Yeah, 48 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: but you were talking about she's doing these she walks 49 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: on the outside of her foot or something. 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, she's curb walking. 51 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 52 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Because it's good to rock the baby out. So they 53 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: walk up and downstairs, or Sam walks around the block. 54 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: But she walks in the curb, one foot on the curb, 55 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: one foot off the curb, so that she rocks around 56 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the block. 57 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: That is hilarious. 58 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. She's doing that. She is mad And 59 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: is that pregnant woman doing on the road she curb walks. 60 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy. There's literally that's where we're out there, like 61 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: we're at wits end, you know, you know, you can 62 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: have intimacy, but that's it's very confronting for all involved. 63 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there. There's you know, can 64 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the music that's just going. Yeah, the boobs are ten 65 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: times bigger, the bellies there, you know, the nipples are 66 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: all happening, you know, and just everything's a lot bigger. Yeah, 67 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: you get lost. 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: Everything sounds amazing. 69 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean everything anyway? 70 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the specifics. That doesn't 71 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: sound that bad. 72 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: It's confronting. 73 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: How are you feeling though, because I'm actually I'm trying 74 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: not to ask you so much like how are you going? 75 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: And has the baby come? Because I realized I've watched 76 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: you walk through the office and it feels like every 77 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: conversation you have, we're going has the baby come yet? 78 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: How you? 79 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: And that must just be so overwhelming, So I asking, yeah, 80 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: I know, it's as I said to you before I think. 81 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: And we spoke to one of the midwives at the 82 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: women Royal Women's yesterday and she was just like, this 83 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: whole due date thing is no woman should be told 84 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: she's due on a certain date. You due sometime in 85 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: that month, no one, Because the problem is once you 86 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: have that date, the only thing people want to know 87 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: is when was the date? And then how much are 88 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you over? How much are you under? How much are 89 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: you over? Why didn't it happen then? And it's like 90 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: it's stabilitating for me. I'm a stress. I'm the guy 91 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: watching on yeah, like I'm not the one going through it. 92 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: And I've got mates who are having babies in and 93 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: around about a month of us having the baby, and 94 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: now we're messaging. One of the girls was messaging Seen 95 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the other day and she's over you by two days 96 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and she was like, SEMs nearly two weeks and she said, 97 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I've cried every day that I've been over to you 98 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: because you just you just and because we had a 99 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: miscarriage before this birth as well. SEM's been pregnant for 100 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: about it for about a year, so she's been pregnant 101 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: for about a year. She is done. But then the 102 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: other side of this, and as I've spoken to about this, 103 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: what I haven't mentioned this on radio before, but we're 104 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: planning on having our own birth and that has been 105 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: the plan and that we're going to have this magic 106 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: home birth. But obviously as it gets further and further 107 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: towards forty two weeks, that becomes more and more in doubt. 108 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: And I think the idea of having an induction is 109 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: scary for someone that wasn't planning that, because I mean, 110 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: like you don't get me wrong, there are arguments either 111 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: side of this, but there's a huge part of it, 112 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: which is that she feels disempowered by it. The pregnancy 113 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: was once on our terms and now it feels like 114 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: it's not and that's scary and stabilitating it and uncertainty 115 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: is just the most caustic of all mind impurities. It 116 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: kills you. We're not knowing. And this is what I've 117 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: been saying to people as well, is that like apart 118 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: from death, you do not have anything in your life 119 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: as with this much gravitas that is so uncertain. We 120 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: have no idea when the most life, anything that's ever 121 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: going to happen to us, is going to happen. 122 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: On trial for murder. Sorry, that's just my only other one. 123 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: Do you mean if you're on trying but you know 124 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: what day you were on trial? 125 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: Gee'z good point. They do get de laid sometimes for 126 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: all sorts of reasons. Now you've got me nothing else wild. 127 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that the only other one is death 128 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: and we do our best to distract ourselves about that. 129 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: If you walked around all day thinking about death, oh 130 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: this could be the day you're exhausted. But that's how 131 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I wake up. Yeah, and that's how Sam sleeps well, 132 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: she doesn't sleep. So look, I've rant it a lot 133 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: there that that's that is very much just a little 134 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: snapshot into my life. Right now, and thank you, honestly, 135 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: thank you for not asking, because it's it is on 136 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: that's all you think about. We try not to talk 137 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: about it. Sam's mum staying with us from the Netherlands 138 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: at the moment. She's flat out banned from talking about it. 139 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: All she does is just put like five chilis in 140 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: each meal and we're like, this is hot, and she's like, oh, 141 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: really is it. I wouldn't mind taking some calls on 142 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: this though, because I I'm after a very specific set 143 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: of people. I'm sure there are lots of people that 144 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: have been in this situation as well. And at the 145 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, we're having a baby, which is 146 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: just the best thing in the world. So I don't 147 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: want to detract from that, and I certainly don't want 148 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: to make it look like I'm ungrateful for that. But 149 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I really would like to hear from some other people 150 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: who are currently currently in this situation there right now, 151 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: men or women, how you dealing with it? And if 152 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: you are pregnant because and it's your first baby, turn 153 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: the radio up, because chances are you're going to be 154 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: in this situation and it is a minefield. We'll take 155 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: them up next love to take some calls. This might 156 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: be a bit self centered, but fed en when I 157 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: was six y five, my partner's forty one weeks and 158 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: six days pregnant, and it is killing me. And I'm 159 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: the guy in this situation. I'm not even carrying the baby, 160 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: so I fully acknowledge. I don't want to start by 161 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: saying that, like I've fully acknowledged that Semi is the 162 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: one and it's weirdly this that's probably why it hurts 163 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: so much. They can't help her. It's it's I just can't. 164 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: There's nothing I can do, and it's really organizing to watch. Actually, 165 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: you could get intimate with her, Well we've done, we 166 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: do that occasionally. 167 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Keep getting in there because it's tough going apparently, so 168 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: that brings on labor. 169 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's it can induce labor, it can. Yeah, yeah, 170 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: it's intense, but it's just a lot to navigate. There's 171 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot going on there would trust me, mate, 172 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening. You just yeah, you don't know 173 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: whether you are Arthur or Martha. We've got We've got Tigan. 174 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Tagan's called Tigan, Hi mate, How I teakes you're thirty 175 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: eight weeks. I've asked people who, by the way, who 176 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: are actually currently overdue to call? So you're you're slightly No, 177 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: that's all right, Now, that's alright. You're welcome to call. 178 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: You you're slightly at the you're getting towards the cooked zone. 179 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Oh look, this. 180 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Baby needs to something in my pulvis as a handy. 181 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: To be honest and just get out. I'm done. I 182 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: am done. 183 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: Seriously, So TEGs, what are you trying to do to 184 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: bring on labor? Are you already doing that at thirty 185 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: eight weeks or you're waiting until forty to start having 186 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: the chilis and do the gutter walking? 187 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: That Will's part is to I don't actually waiting. 188 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: This is my second pregnancy, but I'm actually calling more 189 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: relations to relating to people telling the jew dates. So, yeah, 190 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: this time around, is it my second baby? I did 191 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: it with my first? Yeah, what do you do this 192 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: time around? To do it? Except my mom's decided to 193 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: tell every everybody in my neighborhood and what baby I'm having? 194 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: A girl or boy? 195 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: It was funny. The woman that we did our birth 196 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: in class with Joe, she said, don't tell anyone your birthday, 197 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: just telling your birth month, just say the baby's jew 198 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: in May, because then everybody stops asking specifically and thanks 199 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: for the cold text. She's she's hit the nail on 200 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the head. Not a big part of it. But everyone 201 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: wants wish it, wants well for you. That's why they 202 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: just want to have the moment with the like, oh 203 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: my god, congratulations. But it just adds to the anticipation 204 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: of the whole thing, you know. 205 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: And the idea that you've it must be weird for 206 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: something like the idea that you've done wrong or it's 207 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: not right because it hasn't come on the jew that 208 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: that must be such a mental if. 209 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: That that's exactly right. It's because it's something so precious. Yeah, 210 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: anything that's slightly off kilter is like, oh my god, 211 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: have we done this wrong? So yeah, And as I 212 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: said to you before, one of SEM's mates who's pregnant 213 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: at the same time, message Aaron, was like, I'm three 214 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: days over you. I've cried every single day. Yeah, she's 215 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: nearly two weeks. Anyway, Rebecca, you're currently forty two. Oh 216 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: my god, you're forty two and five. 217 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: Wow? 218 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, first question, everything healthy, everything, all right, 219 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: everything awesome, awesome, awesome, you're having a you're having a 220 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: homie I imagine with having a feedback, So birth, what's it? 221 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: What's a weez ax. 222 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: B back? Totally and so that's a vaginal birth after cesarean. 223 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: So my first is a cesarean. 224 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, wow, yeah, so going into hospital. How 225 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: are you feeling, Rebecca, And you've got any advice for 226 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: being this over? What are you reckoning? 227 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: I'm literally at the stage where now, because we've found 228 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: out it's a little boy, we're at the stage that 229 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: he is going to come whenever he's ready. And as 230 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: I was saying before to the person, I rang that 231 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: it's funny with this baby because our first is actually 232 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: a month almost a month early, okay, and now this 233 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: one is technical classes overdue. But we're just we're happy 234 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: that everything's healthy and he's going to come whenever he's ready. 235 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: And the logic about this is obviously and this is 236 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: this is I had this chat with Sam earlier today. 237 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: We're so in control of our lives these days. In particular, 238 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: we expect things to be when we want them, how 239 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: we want them, and then as soon as something isn't 240 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: the way that we want it. We lose control and 241 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden that throws us totally out of whack. 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: But it's funny that with children, I feel like this 243 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: is the first lesson of being a parent as well, 244 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: is that you're devoting your life to something else. They 245 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: dictate the terms. 246 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. But the funny thing is, though, like, 247 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: we were so anxious to get to just full term, 248 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: so thirty. 249 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Six PM, yeah, yeah, yes. 250 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: So then once we got to forty weeks, so like, 251 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: oh wow, that's exciting, and they held forty one weeks, 252 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: he's like, oh my goodness, this is amazing. 253 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: Through a different lens. So it's through a different lens. 254 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's fascinating stuff. Rebecca, thanks to the call. 255 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Jesus, that makes me feel better. It 256 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: is interesting, though, because that's what our midwife says as well. 257 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: She wants she wants exactly this. She's like, the baby 258 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: will come and the baby is ready, and that's the 259 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: magic of it as well, And it is I really 260 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: don't want to stir up a debate here because I 261 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: know she was with my dad's listening, but well, Jesus 262 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: was family feud, No, not family food. But he's obviously 263 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: been a doctor for fifty years or so, so it's 264 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: different in the western medicine mode. You know, like you 265 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: you book an appointment, if the baby's forty two weeks, 266 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: you go into a hospital, you get into used, you 267 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: have it out, you have a c section, whatever it is. 268 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: So to do it a different way, to wait for 269 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: the baby to tell you when it's due is I 270 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: don't want to say it's controversial, but it's it's you know, certainly, 271 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: if I have a chat with a lot of a 272 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: lot of women who have had babies, my mate's partners 273 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm not saying that they've gone about 274 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: it the wrong way at all. They've gone about it 275 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: their own way, and we're doing it our own way. 276 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: You feel as if you're slightly doing the wrong thing, 277 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: because of course, you know, you're like, you know, and 278 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Dad called me the other day and he's like, god, 279 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, dude, I just want to slightly advocate for 280 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: the baby. You know, are you thinking about doing this? 281 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: You think about doing that, and you know it's coming 282 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: from a good place, but you still, as you said before, 283 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you care so much about this thing. That the fact 284 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: that you feel like you're slightly doing something wrong, you're 285 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: just like, geez am, I totally cooking this. 286 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing things different is always scary. It's been 287 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: done a certain way for so. 288 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Long, exactly right, and yet and yet to try and 289 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: honor the fact that the child will come when the 290 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: child is ready, exactly as Rebecca said, that's the idea, 291 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: and that's what nature will hopefully figure itself out with. 292 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: It's a good way to look at like uber eats 293 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 2: as well. You know, you get so frushed. 294 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah no please link link link childbirth no roots for me. 295 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: I would love you just trying to relate, you know, 296 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: when you're sitting there and you're like, oh, like they 297 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: said it was going to be here at eight twenty 298 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: oh yeah, and it's now going eight forty to eight 299 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: fifty four. 300 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Very frustrating. 301 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: More of the boys on the full podcast just scroll up.