1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Joining us on the line to tell us more about 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the situation is the Minister for Small Business, Paul Kirby. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning thanks Katie. Chiz. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Minister talk us through exactly who's going to be eligible 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: for the latest round of lockdown payments. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've tried to make it as simple as we 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: can for people, Katie, to just mimic the terms and 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: conditions that we had in the recent lockdown, so people 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: will remember that there was one thousand dollars available. All 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: of the information is on the Business Recovery dot nt website, 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: so people can go on there, they can lodge their application. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: We'll get those payments done as quickly as we can. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: People have to have a turnover of over seventy five 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's just a bar that we've had to 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: set to acknowledge that business is a small business and 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: we've used what the federal government used as the trigger there, 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: that's seventy five thousand dollar mark. And yeah, people need 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: to have less than twenty employees, so it is targeted 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: that small to medium enterprises and we just we know 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: it's not enough to help people, you know, to pay 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: for what some businesses will miss over the next few days, 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: but it just is a bit of a help to 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: get them back up and running and hopefully that'll be 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Minister, is there anything available for those who were under 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars? That's one of the biggest questions 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: that I've been asked this morning. 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly the federal government kick in with a lot 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: of those initiatives around job keeper and wage support and reimbursement. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: As much as a territory government, we would dearly love 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: to be able to pay everybody for every cent that 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: they lose out of lockdowns like this, we just physically 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: can't do that. So some of those initiatives from the 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: federal government do rely on us being declared as a 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: hotspot from the federal government, and we know that our 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: Health Minister works really really closely with all of their 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: counterparts with the Chief Health Officer to dictate when that 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: may happen if it's necessary. Hopefully, if we have a 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: shorts up lockdown like we have had, that's probably the 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: best way to get our businesses back up and running 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: is to make sure that we're not bogged down in 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: this for too long and hopefully we've reacted quickly enough 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: to make sure that's the case. 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Minister. It does seem as though though there is some 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: that slipped through the cracks, you know, particularly when you're 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: talking about some of those smaller businesses like I've touched 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: on those under the seventy five thousand dollar mark. What 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: would you say to those businesses that are listening this 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: morning and are feeling a bit neglected. 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: We feel for every business, Kadie that has to shut 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: down under these circumstances. I guess if you talk to 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: the businesses in Sydney that didn't go through a sharp lockdown, 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: they took their time down there and they're still dealing 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: with it months later. Were as our last lockdown we 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: did in a very similar manner to this. We did 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: it really quickly and it was the best way to 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: get everybody back up and running. But absolutely, look if 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: people are struggling with their rents or with anything else, 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: or if people have applied and they think they are 60 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: over that seventy five thousand dollars threshold, but they're not 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: accepted initially. Sometimes they're asked to supply some more information. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: I would just ask people to be patient and supply 63 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: the information. It did take a little while to work 64 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: through all of people's applications last time, but we just 65 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: want to help as many people as we can. But 66 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: we understand there will be some that won't actually qualify 67 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: if people need to work with them with their landlords 68 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: to get some relief from their rent. We just urge 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: everybody to try and pitch in and help out as 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: much as they can. 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Minister I did get a call from one of our 72 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: listeners a bit earlier on the show and he said 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: with the one thousand dollar grant for small businesses, he 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: got it last time and he's gone online to apply again, 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: but he hasn't been able to Is there a glitch 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: in the system or if you've got it last time, 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: are you not able to get it this time? Do 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: you know what the go is there? 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Certainly if people got it last time doesn't disqualify them. 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: It should be available to people again this time. So 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: there's absolutely no qualifications around only getting at once. Certainly, 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: if people have had it last time, they should be 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: able to get it again this time. I haven't been 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: made aware of any glitches with the system. So it 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: is through that Business Recovery dot NT dot gov dot 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: au website. There is a phone number down the bottom 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: of that website page which is one eight hundred one 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: nine to three triple one. I would urge people if 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: they have had a bit of trouble to go back 90 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: and try again. If it still doesn't work, perhaps give 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: that number a ring and we'll just double check with 92 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: the department and make sure that we're not having any grief. 93 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: But no grief that I'm of at this stage. It's 94 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: all hopefully working. 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Minister. Quite a few questions coming through 96 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: from our listeners. I've got one here from Craig. It says, 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: good morning, Katie. Could you please ask the Minister for 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: answers as to whether there's support available for casual workers. 99 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: My wife lost twenty hours this week and possibly more, 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: which makes which makes up a portion of our income. 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: There was support for these people down south, but nothing 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: available if you reside in the Northern Territory on our 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: last lockdown. That one there from Craig. 104 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we knew, I guess from eighteen months ago 105 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: that we have a high proportion of casual workers and 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: a high proportion of people that are on visas and 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: different anomalies that make them unavailable for the longer term, 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: job keeper payments and things like that, which are a 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: federal government initiative. We know that the federal government did 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: acknowledge after or during our last lockdown that they needed 111 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: to enact some initial payments for people. As I'd mentioned before, 112 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: that does rely on us being acknowledged by the FEDS 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: as a hot spot. Now, my understanding is that hasn't 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: happened at this stage, or if that was to happen, 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: then there are some payments that are available to people 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: under the federal government schemes, but we haven't been acknowledged 117 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: as a hot spot yet. That normally happens if there 118 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: are more cases that come or if the lockdown has 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: to be extended. But my understanding is then they can 120 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: be paid back to the first day if we are 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: developed or identified as a hot spot by the federal government. 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Now, Minister, we did catch up with Greg Ireland a 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: little bit earlier on the show from the Chamber of 124 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: Commerce and spoke about some of those businesses that are 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: doing it really tough during these three days of lockdown 126 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: and about the possibility of them still being able to 127 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: operate even though they're not deemed essential under that click 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: and collect banner. I know I'd seen on social media 129 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: there was a florist who was operating who'd been told 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: that they were able to operate, but then they'd been 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: contacted telling them that they needed to lock down, despite 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the fact that they were providing click and collect. Now, 133 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: without sort of going into specific businesses, do you think 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: that there is capacity here for us to look a 135 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: little bit more at some of the businesses that are 136 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: able to operate and still provide those click and collect services, 137 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: even if they're not deemed essential here. 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: Certainly, and that will certainly be something that we do 139 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: if we need to go beyond these first few days. 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 2: The absolute message that we are pleading with the public 141 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: and with businesses is just the lack of movement is 142 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 2: what has helped us out. For people to just stay 143 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: stay home, don't move around, give our contact traces, the 144 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: capacity and the ability to make sure that we know 145 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: exactly where this has moved, as we've seen down South. 146 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: If you don't do that initially, it's then too late. 147 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: So we certainly will have another look at all of 148 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: our businesses how they operate. I know, when you put 149 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: blanket over arching conditions in place like this that there's 150 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: always going to be some anomalies. People will look at 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: a particular type of food business say and say, well, 152 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, is that essential, does that need to be 153 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: often open? Does that or should that comply? But realistically 154 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: we're you know, we are just asking people to stay 155 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: home to make sure to help let's keep people safe, 156 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: that we need to do this for a few days. 157 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: We know that down South when they have got into 158 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: those longer term lockdowns, there are a range of other 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: businesses that they allowed to operate through Click and collects. 160 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, We've had a lot of discussions with Dave 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: Malone after the last one, from the building industry and 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: the construction industry people, and if it does go on, 163 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: we'll certainly do all we can to get as many 164 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: businesses back up and running safely as we possibly can. 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: We're just asking people in this initial stage to just 166 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: bear with us and just try and lay as low 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: as it possibly can. 168 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Minister, we know that in Queensland, I am reading in 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the CANS posts this morning that a vaccine passports a 170 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 1: step closer for Queenslanders after the Palachet government dramatically mandated 171 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: precedents setting COVID jabs for workers crossing the border. Now 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the premiere there issued well a change on Monday saying 173 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: that all essential workers wanting to cross the border from 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Friday are going to have to have had at least 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: one coronavirus shot. Do you reckon that this is something 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: that we need to look at doing for the territory 177 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: or is it a bit heavy handed? 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, we're certainly keeping all of our options open. We 179 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: know that territoriings have been really good on the uptake 180 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: and have really lent in and got behind the JAB 181 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: and to make sure that they do keep themselves and 182 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: I think we're probably more aware of people within our 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: community and out in remote communities and trying to keep 184 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: them as safe as we possibly can. The data and 185 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: digital side of things as a portfolio sits with me 186 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: as well, where in regular meetings with Stuart Robert, our 187 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: federal minister, around how that might play out. Whether there 188 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: is a capacity to link in through the COVID checking 189 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: to highlight that people have had their jobs to make 190 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: sure they have been immunized. That's something that we're only 191 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: in the initial stages of discussing, but that might need 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: to be something into the future if there are essential 193 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: workers that can only go to a particular location if 194 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: they have been immunized, and that might be a way 195 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: that we can use to highlight that. So yeah, I 196 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: think as the rollout progresses and as people are now 197 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: starting to understand, particularly in New South Wales and places 198 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 2: like that, that they do need to fast track that 199 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: that this version the delta strain probably has got away 200 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: from them, that the munization becomes more and more important then, 201 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: particularly for us into workers. 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, and I guess when you look at the situation 203 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: that we're in here in the Northern Territory right now, 204 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: obviously the three day lockdown, and yesterday when we spoke 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: to the Chief Minister Michael Gunner, he had said that 206 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: the one thing that the individual who obviously traveled to 207 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory with COVID wasn't overly cooperative on throughout 208 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the interviewing was whether they'd had that vaccine or not. 209 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: So you do just wonder whether, you know, the reality 210 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: of it is if someone's traveling into the territory, you know, 211 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: if they've decided not to have the vaccine, Okay, no worries, 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: but actually, like you've pointed out there, does it you know, 213 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: do we need to actually be able to freely see 214 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: that whether someone has or or hasn't been vaccinated. 215 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: And I think our discussions at this stage has been like, 216 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: for our front line workers, should we make the vaccine 217 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: available to them, you know, up front for their safety. 218 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: But at some stage during this ongoing scenarios it will 219 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: turn to employers saying no, you must be vaccinated before 220 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: you can work in our space, or even and even 221 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: go further than that. But yeah, it is interesting. I 222 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: think it sounds like hopefully this gentleman hasn't moved around 223 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: too much as much as we know that he has 224 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: gone to Catherine and we certainly know what we were 225 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: put to the test. You couldn't get a bigger scenario 226 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: that we worked through with the Tannami mind, and congratulations 227 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: to everybody that worked their way through that. But somebody 228 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: coming from in the state tour and we're a remote 229 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: part of the territory then with hundreds of people leaving 230 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: there and spreading out a very complex way, and yeah, 231 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: real thank you to all of the people at the 232 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Tannai and all of our health professionals that help get 233 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: on top of that as quickly as we did. 234 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Well, Minister Paul Kirby. We better leave it. They're good 235 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: to catch up with you this morning. Thanks so much 236 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: for your time. 237 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, Katie, good luck and we were 238 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: everyone welcome. 239 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. It is just on twenty minutes after ten 240 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: o'clock and that was the Minister for Small Business there, 241 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Paul Kirby.