Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily Podcast, brought to you by China.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 3: My very much wish is that if you're listening to this,
Speaker 3: it's because somebody who has a crush on you sent
Speaker 3: it to you. They got the link from whatever streaming
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Speaker 3: I just want to show you these really two these
Speaker 3: two really cool girls. I think they talk about really
Speaker 3: interesting stuff that you'd like. They talk about pop culture, news, love, relationships, gossip,
Speaker 3: and a little bit of poo chat. Depending on who
Speaker 3: you are, you'll like that. I'll love it, and I
Speaker 3: think you should listen to them because what we're going
Speaker 3: to be talking about today is DMS DM slide etiquette,
Speaker 3: and especially what DM slide etiquette looks like when you
Speaker 3: own your late twenties, which is what we are.
Speaker 1: We like to be allegedly, Yeah, agly twenty four. Realistically
Speaker 1: I think I would. I could give twenty three all
Speaker 1: in favors, say I why damn? Yeah? You just okay?
Speaker 1: What about twenty five?
Speaker 3: No, you're hard thirty in my eyes, no way, twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I think I'm social. You're giving twenty four in real
Speaker 1: life anyone.
Speaker 3: She will's laughing. Will She's just laughing like it's true. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm usual.
Speaker 3: I said this before, but people on the internet that
Speaker 3: don't know me, like on YouTube, will go, why does
Speaker 3: this chick look twenty and sixty at the same time?
Speaker 1: It's only because you're a white babe?
Speaker 3: Is it because no one else gets my treatment? What
Speaker 3: is it about my face?
Speaker 1: Not in this hair?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it's the short hair. It's a Karen esque
Speaker 3: Karen adjacent hairstyle.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry they said that to you, babe.
Speaker 3: That's fine. Let's get to it. Flex and frooms. So
Speaker 3: I have a message from somebody. It is about their fiance.
Speaker 3: Their fiance does something that they're not very pleased with,
Speaker 3: and I want to know if you think what they're
Speaker 3: doing is wrong. Okay, my fiance poops in the shower
Speaker 3: and stumps it down the drain. Not a joke. She
Speaker 3: recently told me this, and I've been living with it
Speaker 3: for a few weeks now. Oh, she even broke the
Speaker 3: news to me.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait no, no, no, So this
Speaker 1: is the man fiance is saying his woman fiance is
Speaker 1: the pooh stumper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is that worse. I think that's sexist.
Speaker 1: It is okay for good reason.
Speaker 3: She even broke the news to me while laughing about it.
Speaker 3: She goes, you know what a waffle stump is? She
Speaker 3: asked me, as she laughed and laughed. She laughed so
Speaker 3: hard she started crying rumies. I felt disgusted and betrayed.
Speaker 3: I can't even look at her over breakfast anymore before
Speaker 3: I head to work, And while at work, all I
Speaker 3: can do is man as to myself. Is she doing
Speaker 3: it right now? Apparently this has been going on for years,
Speaker 3: she said. She uses all the scented candles she obsessively
Speaker 3: buys online to mask the smell. I worked twelve to
Speaker 3: fifteen hour days, so plenty of time for her to
Speaker 3: cover her pooh stink. A few times we've had to
Speaker 3: snake the drain due to a clog. Now I know
Speaker 3: why I'm not try I can live this life anymore.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I understand. I don't know why this isn't so
Speaker 1: scary to you like I as I ate, I'm finding
Speaker 1: out too much stuff about the world, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: make it makes me fearful what fle stompers could be
Speaker 1: in and amongst us, everyone the way you're laughing. This
Speaker 1: is not foreign to you. The fact that you can
Speaker 1: even conceptualize what that looks like. I have to try.
Speaker 1: You'm just gonna have that sensation anyway. I just think
Speaker 1: this is the most terrifying thing I've ever heard of,
Speaker 1: and I've read some real cooked stuff in my lifetime.
Speaker 1: The thing that gets me is, like, let's say, you know,
Speaker 1: happens once or twice, you couldn't help yourself. I understand, Oh,
Speaker 1: that was a hand up from Ruby. That was a
Speaker 1: that was I can confirm it, so I understand that.
Speaker 1: But now it's something that she does regularly, so much
Speaker 1: so that she has a whole system in place, like
Speaker 1: she's bought She's got now a candle addiction to compensate
Speaker 1: for the wasting smell of pushing feces down the drain,
Speaker 1: like and I can imagine there must be so much
Speaker 1: excess poop attached to the sides of the drain because
Speaker 1: the flow from the shower is trickling.
Speaker 3: It's trickling.
Speaker 1: It's not the powerful flush of a toilet, so it's lingering.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 3: Well, my defense for her, coming straight from through me
Speaker 3: sycrepiance is like the shower. You then put sense down
Speaker 3: the shower like you're doing your shampoo. You're doing a conditioner,
Speaker 3: you're a shaving lotion.
Speaker 1: It's not debto, it's not antibacterial.
Speaker 3: Well, I have done this before, not out of desire
Speaker 3: to want to do it, but from sickness. I'm in
Speaker 3: the shower, I'm vomiting. The pooh comes it started, I
Speaker 3: have to push it down. There's no way, how like,
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do? Get out of the shower.
Speaker 3: I'm dripping wet, it's coming. Sit on the toilet, dripping wet.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Nah, you're in the shower, not in my recent house,
Speaker 3: the one before.
Speaker 1: To be fair, it's like, remember when you were tell
Speaker 1: me you vomited cocktail Frank quotes into the sink, and
Speaker 1: I was like, but why, because now you're trying to
Speaker 1: press them down to the drain. Was I not a
Speaker 1: toilet for you?
Speaker 3: I can't do that toilets freak me out, is all
Speaker 3: I want to say. I don't like the idea that
Speaker 3: I'm doing it where other people have done it, so
Speaker 3: therefore I do it elsewhere. Okay, I will no longer
Speaker 3: incriminate myself because I have a history, a storied history
Speaker 3: of doing things outside of bathrooms.
Speaker 1: This is just I cannot. I really feel for him,
Speaker 1: because as for me, I would I would really struggle
Speaker 1: with that. Like I'm even stuttering.
Speaker 3: It's just gross.
Speaker 1: And I again again, I empathize with people who've been
Speaker 1: in situations where it's necessary, and I think if I
Speaker 1: had to justify it, because you know, a great debate
Speaker 1: considers both angles, I guess showering straight after is very
Speaker 1: is a good thing for me. I don't like the
Speaker 1: fact that when you like, toilet paper should be moist
Speaker 1: so it can really get into the crevices. Why are
Speaker 1: we trying to clean with just some dry like imagine
Speaker 1: if you spilt something on your countertop and just wiped
Speaker 1: it up and then left the rend like. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't make me sense. However, I don't like this.
Speaker 3: Remember never flush wet wipes down the drain.
Speaker 1: No, I don't flush webs weteps. What I do, let
Speaker 1: me know.
Speaker 3: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 1: It is not often that I come with a dilemma,
Speaker 1: not one that's rooted in reality. Anyway, I like to
Speaker 1: think about abstract concepts. I don't like to think about
Speaker 1: like real life from that way, and if I do,
Speaker 1: it's a quick thought and an action, so I don't
Speaker 1: have to think about it again. Okay, but recently I
Speaker 1: found myself in a little bit of a pickle. So
Speaker 1: what had happened was I had found myself in and
Speaker 1: around an attractive guy, one that interested me so much
Speaker 1: I said, I have to do something about this. After
Speaker 1: slide through anyway, So the initial meeting casual, casual humor
Speaker 1: no at a place that cannot be named to not
Speaker 1: identify a restaurant babes. Yeah, enough that this person is
Speaker 1: like visually interested me enough that I'm like, I like
Speaker 1: the outfit, I like the vibe. I want to do
Speaker 1: something with this, but I don't know what right, So
Speaker 1: I decided I'm going to do a DM slide. And
Speaker 1: we have spoken about before that, like five years ago.
Speaker 1: The DM slide tactic was sending a flower emoji. Yes,
Speaker 1: why because it's it's neutral, good, it's positive and friendly,
Speaker 1: and that it sparks the conversation for someone who's mutually interested,
Speaker 1: and if they're not, they'll be polite, or they'll ignore you,
Speaker 1: or they're like, what are you talking about? You know what?
Speaker 1: People who get it get it right, but I'm not
Speaker 1: twenty four anymore.
Speaker 3: She's old.
Speaker 1: I'm older. She's a lady. To be right, I can't
Speaker 1: allocate so much time for the like the banter and
Speaker 1: the directionless conversation. I just need to know that's my
Speaker 1: cron troll ISS's coming through. I'm like, is it a vibe?
Speaker 1: Is it not a vibe? You know whatever? But then
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, I'm having a secondary issue.
Speaker 1: My secondary issue is that I no longer want to
Speaker 1: be a what do you call them? An aggressor. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the person who's like I am,
Speaker 1: I'm pursuing someone. I picked them, I chose them. I've
Speaker 1: done that. That's like we did that. I want to
Speaker 1: be a damsel, yes, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I want to just like kind of like loosely set
Speaker 1: things up and be like you know, just like heart
Speaker 1: and cute and like at the helm of somebody else's
Speaker 1: effort and also somebody else's steaks, Like the steaks need
Speaker 1: to be higher for them than me. Too many things
Speaker 1: to consider. So I did a round table at a
Speaker 1: restaurant that I was at, not with strangers, basically half
Speaker 1: a strangers, but from me and I were at this
Speaker 1: like dinner but through mere the left, so you'd a
Speaker 1: round tablested what would you all do? And the advice
Speaker 1: ranged from oh, just like reply to an Instagram story,
Speaker 1: which is just like what if they don't post Instagram
Speaker 1: stories that often, you know what I mean? Like that's
Speaker 1: taking too much time, And then somebody else was like, oh,
Speaker 1: just ask them out, Like Nope, we're in the wrong
Speaker 1: era for that, babe, We're in the wrong era. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to set something up, you know, set something up.
Speaker 1: So after about an hour of consultation, we didn't really
Speaker 1: get anywhere. So I'm bringing this to you for me.
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think adult women date
Speaker 1: men I e. Mixed Flexiana should and would do because
Speaker 1: I already did it, but I want I don't know
Speaker 1: how you think I should have approached it.
Speaker 3: Has it worked?
Speaker 1: Well? Well, well wait a second, let me give a
Speaker 1: plot twist. I got bored and I saw too much
Speaker 1: not too much, I think, how do I explain it?
Speaker 1: I got distracted a splendor. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: not what I want. Then I just got like it
Speaker 1: was just no longer fun anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, just give me the context, like you follow
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: We were strangers. I just assessed him in a room
Speaker 1: and said I liked that one. Okay, can I just
Speaker 1: was it like a cafe. I will tell you the
Speaker 1: full story afterwards. You don't, you do not need that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You know, you're just forgotten anyway. So
Speaker 1: I had assessed this person in a room.
Speaker 3: I just want to know. It's not like a work
Speaker 3: setting or something inappropriate babes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I sussed. I said I want that one please,
Speaker 1: and then I realized, like, we're just not in environment,
Speaker 1: so you can just have that one, like you need
Speaker 1: to like graft? Yes, yeah, I was like, okay, well
Speaker 1: how do I graft if my only access to this
Speaker 1: person is now their Instagram? Like, we don't for what
Speaker 1: I know, running the same secle. I'n't have seen you before.
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna run into you. We don't have
Speaker 1: mutual friends. I just need to lock it in ands up.
Speaker 1: So all I had to me was a DM slide
Speaker 1: after a follow, naturally.
Speaker 3: A mutual follow, mutual follow, mutual follow, Okay, as soon
Speaker 3: as the mutual follow occurs.
Speaker 1: Yes, one might say that, but here's what I think.
Speaker 1: The mutual follow is like a stalemate. Yeah, because one
Speaker 1: person follows, you take the risk. Everyone just has to
Speaker 1: follow back, just respond to the initial risk taken. There's
Speaker 1: nothing much there to stalemate. Then one person can do them,
Speaker 1: you know, the three liking the three photos. It's so boring. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to go straight to the DM. I want
Speaker 1: to go in. But my issue is because I'm doing damnsel.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the aggressor. I don't want
Speaker 1: to ask you out. Maybe it's not twenty eighteen I
Speaker 1: did that. I want to do some fresh see.
Speaker 3: But I think you've gotten yourself into a trap because
Speaker 3: exactly people expect you to do that exactly.
Speaker 1: So then as I was thinking about what I would say,
Speaker 1: then I was like, doesn't matter, I'm over it. But
Speaker 1: then they posted a story. I said, this is perfect,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what I need. Look through the story
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, get what's happening here. You are
Speaker 1: like a capital C creative archetype, Like you are not
Speaker 1: going to post a picture of yourself ever, It's going
Speaker 1: to be like creative inspiration. So I'm like, there's not
Speaker 1: much to say here, Like you've posted a picture of
Speaker 1: a gradient background a spoon, like like the sky with
Speaker 1: a branch. I can't work with.
Speaker 3: This lines like buildings with lots of.
Speaker 1: Lines really like Jesus helped me anyway. So then they
Speaker 1: end up posting like this cute illustration of like cats
Speaker 1: or something like finally we can do something with this,
Speaker 1: and I said something like, oh my god, that's so cute,
Speaker 1: like adorable. I'm obsessed. Yeah, I can do that anyway.
Speaker 1: Benny starts talking about screen printing and he's like and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he wants your advice, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like it was like creative validation almost. He was like,
Speaker 1: oh you really think so, Like I took a photo
Speaker 1: of it because like I've got inspiration for this and
Speaker 1: like something something like it'd be great screen printed. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is so like it had already
Speaker 1: gone down a really specific path. And I'm just like
Speaker 1: not that I don't care, but you're a capital C creative.
Speaker 1: I'm like a lowercase C creative. Whatever conversation we have
Speaker 1: is gonna escalate, and I just don't care that much. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Then we were having this like back and forth, small
Speaker 1: top conversation, and then I went to splendor with no reception.
Speaker 1: I came back and then I looked at this story
Speaker 1: again and I'm like, it's just it's fine.
Speaker 3: You've cooled off. It's a cooling because.
Speaker 1: I liked the in person vibe when I didn't have
Speaker 1: any context, and that's not real, like when I was
Speaker 1: able to project onto them, like what the vibe was.
Speaker 1: Now I have the vibe. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: People take, but my point remains.
Speaker 1: When I'd asked other people around, like none of them
Speaker 1: had a good approach to the DM slide, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be living in an ever increasingly virtual society
Speaker 1: where we should have these tactics on lock.
Speaker 3: I think Instagram did a lot when it brought in
Speaker 3: the reacts that are beyond the fire react yes or
Speaker 3: beyond just the like yes, i think you've got to
Speaker 3: be shameless.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I'm so bored of that.
Speaker 3: This is the things like, so you need to get
Speaker 3: over any ego that you might have, be shameless in
Speaker 3: the beginning, and then hoodwink and make them do the
Speaker 3: rest of the work you have to because you have
Speaker 3: the bold I don't have to have to, like in
Speaker 3: order for things to change.
Speaker 1: One must do things differently.
Speaker 3: But then what if no one comes, then so be it.
Speaker 3: It's quite a nice attitude.
Speaker 1: You know, because here's my thing when like the archetype
Speaker 1: of who I date, right if I'm like, we all
Speaker 1: know me, we all know the characteristics. I feel like
Speaker 1: I date people who are used to like going with
Speaker 1: the flow and like being agreeable and you know, being
Speaker 1: almost like being a support role to the main event. Right.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's not a partnership, that's a we're
Speaker 1: on the flex train. I'm like, I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: a team thing, trying to be a duo.
Speaker 3: Do you want a boy boss?
Speaker 1: I don't want a boy boss. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say I'm going in this direction. You're like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna switch around my plans to do what you And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, what do you do? What are your goals? What
Speaker 3: are your interests?
Speaker 1: Like, let's do what you want to do.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna find your people.
Speaker 1: It starts from like the very beginning, Like I think
Speaker 1: in those early stages you build habits that turn out
Speaker 1: to be foundations of your dynamic. So if in the
Speaker 1: initial stages, then like what are you doing where are
Speaker 1: we going. I'm gonna then like we're building patterns and traditions. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll find a middle ground somewhere.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for this journey. I feel like you're really
Speaker 3: putting yourself out there.
Speaker 1: You said, like I've not been putting myself out there, babe.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I just I get like we have conversations, and this
Speaker 3: is coming up more in conversation. So I'm excited for you.
Speaker 3: You're inspiring me. You inspired me to get a dating
Speaker 3: app again, which will go through one day. It expires
Speaker 3: in probably two days, and then I'm not going to
Speaker 3: get it again. Pay But I put myself out there
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker 2: I look.
Speaker 1: So, I'm sure there's like a whole subgroup of like
Speaker 1: assertive girl bosses who like babes. I want to be
Speaker 1: a dumbda and I want to I want the option.
Speaker 1: Why can't I have options? Please?
Speaker 3: You're listening to flex and Frooms on Kta FLEXI again.
Speaker 3: I was on TikTok. That's going to be the story
Speaker 3: of my life there.
Speaker 1: I want to kick back every time we say that.
Speaker 1: Why Because I feel like I do so much TikTok converting.
Speaker 1: Like on Instagram as well. I'm constantly spooking TikTok people like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I down wanted it because of you,
Speaker 1: and it's nice to hear that I have natural influence.
Speaker 1: But I'm also like mmm.
Speaker 3: Mmmm, I think they're going to come back at you
Speaker 3: when they find out that all their data has been
Speaker 3: mined allegedly.
Speaker 1: Oo.
Speaker 3: I came across you at TikTok and I thought it
Speaker 3: would interest you. I'm gonna open it for you.
Speaker 1: Why have I never seen an AI.
Speaker 2: That's a man, It's a voice activated digital assistant. These
Speaker 2: are crazy times for AI Personal assistance Siri, Krotana, Alexa V.
Speaker 2: Is there any reason you guys give them all female names, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised there isn't one just called mommy, Mommy, where's
Speaker 2: the closest latte facts?
Speaker 3: And he hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 1: No, I guess because I know AI can be gendered.
Speaker 1: But when I'm speaking about AI, I'm speaking about like
Speaker 1: the concept, not like Siri. But now I think about it,
Speaker 1: this person is right like when you have a because
Speaker 1: people say the floor with AIS that it's built by people,
Speaker 1: namely men, and so all the biases that men have
Speaker 1: in society or people, whatever will be transferred onto whatever
Speaker 1: they build, because how can you separate yourself from who
Speaker 1: you are and what you believe and that will naturally
Speaker 1: go into what you create right with not anything, So
Speaker 1: in this instance it's like wha yeah, hold on a second.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised though.
Speaker 1: Ex.
Speaker 3: Machina someone it's called Mackina, but Makina she was a chick. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she was a chick. I think it makes sense because
Speaker 3: it's you know, no, you know what. This really really
Speaker 3: interests me because the other day I saw you know,
Speaker 3: Jane from Glee, the really like the mean trainer woman
Speaker 3: with the she as a person on her on her
Speaker 3: Twitter wrote, can like female podcasters like lower their tone
Speaker 3: because listening to high voices is really annoying. But then
Speaker 3: on the other hand, all of the assistants are women,
Speaker 3: So I'm like there is some sort of divide. People
Speaker 3: often say.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about this. Jane thinks the more
Speaker 1: that you put that down, please, can women lower their tones?
Speaker 1: That's what we should put down.
Speaker 3: On the one hand, women's voices are considered annoying, and
Speaker 3: I remember growing up, Dad used to always say that
Speaker 3: men say it women say it, I find as well.
Speaker 3: They're like, women are just more annoying to listen to.
Speaker 1: Remember I told you about that women who got surgery
Speaker 1: to deepen her voice because she was like, no one
Speaker 1: takes me seriously?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, When did we start finding them annoying? And then
Speaker 3: on the other hand, why is it that we want
Speaker 3: subservient women? Like why do we want women voices? Traditionally
Speaker 3: women voices as our ai. I believe it's because we
Speaker 3: want to hear women's voices when they suit us, when
Speaker 3: they're doing something for us. But we don't want to
Speaker 3: hear women's voices when they are simply enjoying having enjoyment,
Speaker 3: such as us. So if you're listening to this, eat it.
Speaker 1: I would love to have someone who's built an ai
Speaker 1: answer that question. Yeah, because part of me thinks it's
Speaker 1: an oversight. You know how people talk about you know,
Speaker 1: often when people talk about the way that men have
Speaker 1: impacted women, it's not that they were intentionally trying to
Speaker 1: create a society that doesn't work in your favor. Just
Speaker 1: don't think about you. Sorry that the handles are too
Speaker 1: high in trains. Didn't think you were that short, you know.
Speaker 1: Sorry the kitchen countertops are too high. Didn't realize you
Speaker 1: were little? Yes, things like that where it's like you're
Speaker 1: not there, not considering what this looks like. To have
Speaker 1: all the assistants be women.
Speaker 3: Totally, I think though with that one, you would have
Speaker 3: had to do a lot of research, like, because these
Speaker 3: are products that are marketed, so someone's had to think, oh,
Speaker 3: what does the general consensus want to listen to? Is
Speaker 3: it a woman's voice?
Speaker 1: Because I thought like studies have shown that the neutral
Speaker 1: voice is a man. And when people think about what
Speaker 1: is a voice, generally they think about a man's voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wonder if it changes when it's something
Speaker 3: that serves you. Ooh, a genuine think.
Speaker 1: So your as like, sorry, babe, I had a man.
Speaker 1: Look at what the weather is.
Speaker 3: Flick and firms.
Speaker 1: I hate to come bearing bad news. I really don't
Speaker 1: love it, and yet you do, but I do every time.
Speaker 1: I think it's my duty. Not everything can be positive.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we need to learn from other's mistakes, and in
Speaker 1: this instance, during lockdown. Sometime I know, depending on what
Speaker 1: country you're in, lockdown's a different point. But somewhere between
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty two on TikTok in particular
Speaker 1: due to the success of Bridgeton on Netflix. These two
Speaker 1: songwriters and composers on TikTok decided that they thought that
Speaker 1: Bridgetin would be amazing as a musical, Like it just
Speaker 1: lent itself to that kind of you know, that kind
Speaker 1: of theater. They're like, Oh, these songs, like these people,
Speaker 1: these themes would be a perfect musical. So these two creators,
Speaker 1: Barlow and Bear, those are their surnames, because like, I'm
Speaker 1: a professional, did like this twelve part online music. So
Speaker 1: they wrote songs for like all these key themes and
Speaker 1: scenarios in the show, and people really resonated with it
Speaker 1: because at the time, not so I people were have remembered,
Speaker 1: but because of COVID and Lockdown, so many production houses
Speaker 1: weren't actually releasing any new TV because they couldn't do
Speaker 1: their regular release schedules. People can go to the cinemas,
Speaker 1: and so Bridgington was one of the first and only
Speaker 1: things that was released fresh on Netflix during lockdown, So
Speaker 1: a lot of people watched it and so by the
Speaker 1: time I got to tick Up, we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is amazing, we love this, it's so cool. It whatever,
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Bilo and Bear, the
Speaker 1: composers of bridget and the musical on TikTok, won a
Speaker 1: Grammy the Best Musical Album. It skyrocketed them. It was
Speaker 1: so much more than two young women doing some cool
Speaker 1: social media content, and it was regarded as this really
Speaker 1: crucial piece of music. And so very recently Bilo and
Speaker 1: Bear decided that they wanted people to experience Bridgitton the
Speaker 1: musical life because dancers would make you know, would compose
Speaker 1: with like poreograph dance moves and like people were like
Speaker 1: constructing set designs via TikTok, and everybody was feeding into
Speaker 1: the narrative. It wasn't just the songs, it was everything
Speaker 1: that had to do with the musical. So they were like,
Speaker 1: let's bring this to the stage, Let's bring it to life.
Speaker 1: So they did. They sold tickets and they brought this
Speaker 1: live musical, took everything that happened on TikTok and put
Speaker 1: it in the flesh, and it sold out. And it
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, this is how creators activate. This is
Speaker 1: how you take this like content that has quote unquote
Speaker 1: no value on this children's app and you make it
Speaker 1: like a commercial success. Everybody was cheering, Yes, this is
Speaker 1: a win. Then the creators of Bridgeton the Musical and
Speaker 1: TikTok get sued by Netflix. Sued by Netflix, And you
Speaker 1: might ask, why wait two years into this to sue them? Well,
Speaker 1: Netflix argues that when TikTok the Musical was happening on TikTok,
Speaker 1: it wasn't for commercial gain. They were using the likeness
Speaker 1: and almost creating a parody, you know, in an organic way.
Speaker 1: They weren't infringing on copyright or anything. It was fair
Speaker 1: game the moment they started profiting off it. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. How does it make you feel?
Speaker 2: Bab oh?
Speaker 1: I get it?
Speaker 3: I get it in both ways. That's such a shame.
Speaker 3: You know. I think Netflix is kind of taking the
Speaker 3: piss because them doing that on TikTok would have brought
Speaker 3: so much more traffic to Bridgeton I think, like a
Speaker 3: substantial amount.
Speaker 1: So they should just convince you to watch it, though.
Speaker 3: I didn't say either, to be honest, I'm in a
Speaker 3: little black hole of like any what I'm watching on TikTok.
Speaker 3: But that's a pity. I hope that they don't have
Speaker 3: to pay much money to Netflix.
Speaker 1: One would say that, but then also they sold merch. Oh,
Speaker 1: so then it's like damn, like it gets worth tickets merch.
Speaker 1: They recorded the music, it's on streaming websites. And also
Speaker 1: basically they're saying it like the Bridgeton the musical, the
Speaker 1: TikTok Musical reflects all the creative and hard work of
Speaker 1: the Netflix employees who created that show. So like, yes,
Speaker 1: you made the songs, but there's no song without the
Speaker 1: people who did it before you. So where is their cut?
Speaker 1: Where is their profit? And also Netflix does own the
Speaker 1: exclusive right to exploit Bridgeton in any ways. If they
Speaker 1: want to make a song or a movie, they can.
Speaker 1: They have the right and the soul right to do that.
Speaker 1: So it feels like this is like way worse than
Speaker 1: you could ever imagine, Like, oh, it's not good. It's
Speaker 1: not good breath, it's not looking good. Pie. It's a pie,
Speaker 1: isn't it? It's not easy. You've been listening to the
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