WEBVTT - Elevator to Level Six 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.280 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.040 hottest influenza and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.880 Amy Torber and coming up. On today's show, Lucy Jackson 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.600 and Nicki Wescott revealed what really happened when they reunited 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.840 with Lilly Brown. Kate Cassidy gives first interview since boyfriend 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.919 Liam Payne's death, and why Georgie Stephenson's dream house is 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.640 on the market, but first. Mikayla Tester has revealed she's 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.000 set to share the full story behind her experience with 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.040 the Paul family on her new podcast, Kate, Can You 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.840 tell Us More? Well? The news really contradicted her most 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.120 recent statement that she would be moving forward legally, so 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.760 last Wednesday, she wrote, Hi, guys, I did promise receipts. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.720 While going through and actually collecting them and reviewing them, 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.800 I realized something very, very sinister was happening to me 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.120 for many years. This is something the police should be seeing, 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.920 not the Internet. Although at some stage I will be 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.080 able to share my story in full, as I have 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.560 shared every piece of my life with you all so far, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.000 I will have to delay. For now. I will be 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.720 moving forward legally. The way it should be now. There 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.120 was a bit of a backflip by Michayla on Friday, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.440 because she then shared a photo of a couch and 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.280 a microphone and wrote, where I'm about to sit for 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.679 the next two days, telling you all absolutely everything I've 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.440 wanted to say that couldn't coming next week. She went 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.479 on to say, not a single stone will be left unturned. 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.039 This is my story, my experience, and my choice to 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.399 share now. The podcast is called The Unsaid Podcast and 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.559 at the time of recording, has one hundred and eight 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.679 thousand followers. I'm sure the Paul family are looking on 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.160 very nervously at this. I actually gasped when I saw 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.440 Michayla's post. This was so unexpected, and when I clicked 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.400 on her Instagram, it originally said that the podcast was 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.440 going to be hosted by Michayla and Alisha Mackenzie. So 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.040 Alisha is Michayla's friend and manager. Now it just says 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.080 it's going to be hosted by Mikayla. I wonder if 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.160 this is a legal decision, because if this does go 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.040 to court for defamation, Mikayla will want to protect herself, obviously, 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.640 but she might not want to fit the bill for 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.440 a friend. I was really disappointed when I saw Mikayla's 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.040 announcement pop up, because I thought it was really mature 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:10.800 and a good move that she was going to take 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.880 things offline. Well, a lot of people are now saying, oh, well, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.639 did Mikayla originally call Anna pull out just to get 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.720 attention for her new podcast. I don't actually think that 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.280 that's the case, but it is an interesting move to 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.840 bring the podcast out so soon after. I think the 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.960 podcast is just sort of a one and done thing. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.040 I don't think she's going to continue to release episodes. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.200 I think she's just chosen this as a format to 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.280 share her story. Really, I potentially think that this podcast 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.480 had been in the works for quite some time because 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.800 the photo was taken in a professional studio. Obviously, the 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.760 Instagram had been set up, and Michayla's manager was going 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.399 to co host with her. I think maybe she looked 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.520 at the attention she was receiving and thought, well, now 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.359 it's probably a good time to announce that I'm doing 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.680 this podcast because I'm going to get mass exposure from views. Well, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.799 from a PR perspective, it is a pretty clever time 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.320 when everyone is looking at your page. But that theory 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.960 doesn't really make sense to me, because two days earlier 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.480 she said that she was going to stop speaking about 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.280 it because she was following it up legally. I think 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:08.840 someone's just come to her and said you should do 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.680 a podcast, and it's happened all pretty meganically. She also 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.720 might have received legal advice that maybe the evidence she 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:19.480 found wasn't enough for a potential prosecution. She's clearly lawyered up, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.800 and after the response Anna received from her video, I 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.160 think that she's probably feeling very confident to keep talking. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.640 I hope that the podcast is focused more so on 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.320 Atis than Anna. But a concept I talk about in 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.320 the work that I teach is quantum leaping, So it's like, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.880 you know, it's a bit of a buzzword to in TikTok. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.400 It's like how to manifest and quantum leep. Influencer turned 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.280 entrepreneur Georgie Stevenson has revealed her dream home is on 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.760 the market in an unusual move. The multi level Hilltop 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.080 mansion is listed for both sale and rent. Before we 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.400 get into it amy, For those who are not familiar 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:56.640 with Georgie, who is she? 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:57.160 Well? 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.400 Georgie is a successful entrepreneur who started out as a 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.840 lawyer and influencer. She is close to four hundred thousand 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:08.080 followers on Instagram and she co owns supplement brand Naked Harvest, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.920 as well as owning a mindset and manifestation course Meditation 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.360 of Mindset, app, skincare brand and podcast, and at just 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.359 thirty years of age, Georgie is a self proclaimed multi 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.440 millionaire and is married to her long term partner Tim 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.480 and together they have a three year old called Ivy. Now, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.320 this home that Georgie lives in is probably one of 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.520 the most insane influencer houses I've ever seen. I'm curious, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.719 why is she moving out of it? Well, the crux 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.000 of it is that the home isn't family friendly. So 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.320 in a Q and A on an Instagram story, she 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.560 revealed the exciting news that she is trying to have 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.800 a second baby this year, and in making those plans, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.839 she's realized that a house isn't as child friendly as 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.520 they would like for a newborn. So she wrote, it's 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.240 the most incredible house, like it's my dream house, but 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.040 also we realize maybe not the best in our current chapter. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.520 In an ideal world, we keep it rented out and 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.680 move back in when the kid's older, But I don't know. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.520 See now, I had a squizz at this house on 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.039 real estate dot Com. It is absolutely insane, but it's 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.600 probably the least kid friendly house I've ever seen. So 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.960 the main issue with the house is that it has 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.200 six different levels. It does have an elevator though, which 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.720 Georgie said is helpful. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:18.320 Now. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.479 The house itself takes up four levels. Then there is 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.640 a separate level for a self contained studio, and at 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.000 the bottom is a backyard. And Georgie and Tim's bedroom 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.799 is on the top level, while their daughter, Ivy's bedroom 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.479 and the other bedrooms are on the third level. That 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.159 must be real pain having to go down in the lift. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.000 That sounds like I'm taking the pits, But it would 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.360 be a real issue having to go down a level 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.240 to get to your daughter. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:41.800 Yeah, will. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.840 Georgie explained that she didn't like the thought of having 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.400 to go down the stairs with a newborn, and they 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.159 actually bought the house when Ivy started sleeping through the 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.680 night and walking. However, she did say that if they 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.680 want to go take her down to the backyard, it's 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.880 down eighty steps, so she actually can't play unsupervised I 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.680 want to know if they have someone working in the lift, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.560 you know, back in the day when it comes to be. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.200 But I'm just saying this house is so op And 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.440 on the second level we're going to Ivy's Plea, there's 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.440 a six level house. I mean, it seems like they 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.960 use it quite a bit. Well, I actually want to 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.719 start manifesting after looking into some of these features of 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.600 Georgie's house because she's onto something which I think it's 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.640 the best influencer house I've seen. Step First Smith's family 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.279 property is a close second, but this one takes the case. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:26.560 Yeah. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.240 And this property is built on a hilltop next to 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.320 a conservation reserve. It has the most incredible views of 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.160 the Gold Coast skyline as well as the beach. And 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.520 it's not a small property. It stretches over one thy 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.680 one hundred and thirty eight square meters. There are five bedrooms, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:46.080 five bathrooms, and infinity pool, spa gym, outdoor kitchen, as 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.039 well as you mentioned Kate the self contained studio. Where 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.040 do we sign up to Georgie Stevenson's manifestation course. The 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.360 one feature that I couldn't get over was there is 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.000 this really strange toilet in the middle of the living room, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.520 so it isn't it is encased in this stone cylinder, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.039 but it's just sort of randomly in the middle. And 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.000 touring a mini house tour Georgie recorded back when they 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.480 first moved in, she said, it's a little round toilet 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.920 in the middle of the room, so random. We love that. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.160 That's probably the most kid friendly thing there, just having 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.560 a toilet that's so close to the living room. Maybe 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.200 not the stone. I might have mentioned this on the 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.240 podcast before, but some friends of ours they moved into 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.320 a house that had two toilets in one bathroom, so 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.040 you could sit across from your partner basically and go 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.160 to the toilet at the same time. That'd be convenient 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.000 when we shared a house, because we don't mind going 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.480 to the toilet in front of each other, but I 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.440 don't go in front of my partner. Who Maybe it's 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.280 when you have kids, like it might be easier if 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.360 they need to go at the same time. Maybe it 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.760 appears that Georgie is having a bit of trouble finding 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.480 a buyer because the house was passed in an auction 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.400 back in November, and since then she's got a new 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.680 agent and they've now listed the asking price, which offers 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.600 over nine point nine million. This is the sort of 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.000 house that you would see on Luck's listings. What I 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.160 couldn't wrap my head around is that the property is 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.400 also available for rent, so it seems like it's Georgie's 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.520 preference just to rent it out. If you want to 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.800 rent this place out, it's going to cost you five 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.680 and a half thousand per week. It's pretty crazy to 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.880 think that that's even an option for the couple, considering 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.920 it's such an expensive and it shows you how incredibly 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.560 successful Georgie Stephenson is. Even if you compare her to 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:25.400 other influences, her business Naked Halves is obviously doing extremely 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.880 well well. The couple originally purchased the property in twenty 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.240 twenty two for seven point five million dollars, so they 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.320 have made quite a bit off it if they do 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.319 sell it over the nine point nine million range. Their 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.840 property manager Ed Cherry said that they've actually been offered 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.760 over nine point nine million dollars quite a few times 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.040 before when it wasn't on the market. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:45.439 Now. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.880 In terms of what they've done to the house, Georgie 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.439 shared that they were slowly renovating the property in twenty 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.240 twenty three. So all they appear to have done is 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.360 changed the color palette to a whitewashed color. I think 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.280 it just shows how strong the property market is. Yeah, exactly. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.880 That's offered enough, just in normal house sales to bump 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.040 up the price. I've noticed that every property, if you 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.840 just paint the walls white, it goes through about one 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.080 hundred k more. I'm just so intrigued to see what 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.040 her next dream house will look like. I think a 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.720 lot more child friendly, maybe one level. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.680 The amount of questions that came off the back of 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.120 that asking us about if we saw Lily, if we 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:22.199 saw Lily Brown. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.760 Lucy Jackson and Niki Wescott have addressed their much publicized 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.200 feud with OG influencer Lily Brown the Happy Hour podcast hosted. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.920 Ever since the trio reunited at m Davies Hens, they've 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.679 been inundated with questions about what really went down. Now, Sophie, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.120 our podcasts even got to mention, yeah, I was so 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.640 excited when a listener sent this through. Unfortunately our podcast 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.280 wasn't mentioned by name, though, but the host did talk 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.439 about our segment. So a couple of weeks ago, we 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.480 did a segment about all of the awful media scrutiny 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.040 around M Davies's Hens party outfit, and also touched on 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:01.120 the intense interest around M's guest list. Now followers were 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.920 very intrigued to see if there would be any fallout 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.840 between Lucy, Nicky and Lily because they were going to 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.400 be spending a boozy weekend together in Bali. The trio 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.000 fell out around five years ago, allegedly over Lily's boyfriend 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.880 at the time, Jerome. Now in the segment, we said 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.679 that we would love to have seen what really went 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.560 down at this event, and Lucy and Niki were kind 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.560 enough to drop us a couple of crumbs. Here's what 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:24.000 they said. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.680 I heard on a podcast I got sent to me, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.240 and they were like, you know, I would have loved 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.640 to have been a fly on the wall to see 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.920 all the drama that happened, and blah blah blah. You 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.840 guys will be actually like thrilled to know, or maybe not, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.600 maybe you want the tea, but like genuinely and this 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.240 has always been the case since we had our falling 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.000 out with Lil back in Fucking Timbuck two years ago, 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.680 since we've seen her at things for years now, there's 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.840 never been any face to face drama no ever. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.000 Nah. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.240 I think we just sort of have always just kind 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.680 of tried to move forward and grow and not whole grudges. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.560 Lucy went on to say that she's always been very 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.160 mindful that they're a lot older than Lily and when 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.640 they enter a social situation, they never wanted to come 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.959 across as two versus one, and she added she never 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.160 wants to make Lily feel nervous alone or scared. Well, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.800 that is very mature of them, and Lucy and Nicky 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.000 seemed quite surprised that people were actually still interested in 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.000 this friendship fallout. They said to them, it feels like 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.600 such a long time ago, and that they've had fifteen 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.440 different lives since. Do you think they're trying to save 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.439 face there? Because whenever I've had a friendship fall out 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.920 and you haven't seen the person for a long time, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.680 then when you see them, you're taking back to that moment. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.880 I would have thought if it wasn't such a big deal, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.920 then they would have made up by now, considering they've 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.360 got the mutual friend of m Davis. Well, that's the thing. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.640 It was very clear in this podcast that even though 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.800 they were trying to have water down this reunion and 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.880 say it seemed much more dramatic online. It's clear that 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.720 they haven't rekindled their friendship with her, despite the fact 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.240 that they've seen her at numerous sociates. But it can 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.520 be over a disagreement that you had years ago and 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.400 still not want to be friends with someone. I don't know, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.120 because if I was over it, then wouldn't you just 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.559 all be friends? I mean, it seems like the situation. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.760 It seems like what they were trying to say is, look, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.360 no one had an argument, but I get the vibe 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.280 that they probably just ignored each other. It sounds like 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.480 that because Lucy made a point of saying that she 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.680 spent most of the Hen's weekend on the dance floor 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.480 not speaking to anyone. Like It's not like they said, oh, yeah, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:28.959 we caught up and had a great time. Isn't it 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.840 the most awkward thing ever when you are at an 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.800 event with someone that you have had a falling out 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.240 with and you want to be staring and like looking 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.920 at what they're doing, and you can almost feel their 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.280 eyes burning a hole in the back of your head. Well, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.559 I actually feel more sorry for em because I've been 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.800 in the situation where I've had two people at an 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.160 event who were exes and I've been having to try 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.320 and make things not awkward for them, and oh, it 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.240 was still awkward for everybody. And I really appreciated the 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.480 fact that they both came and are both lovely about it, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.439 but it's really awkward logistically, even when you know you've 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:00.839 got your big tape, we'll set up you're gonna have 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.760 him on opposite side entertaining for the friends. Yeah, that's right. Well, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.920 Lucy and Nikki also put to bedroomors about m Davies' 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.719 engagement party, so at the time there was a lot 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.600 of chatter about why they weren't in attendance, and a 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.079 lot of people thought maybe it was because Lily had 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.040 recently been named as EM's bridesmaid and it might have 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.559 been awkward for all of them to be together at 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.160 a relatively intimate event. Here's what Lucy said about it. 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.760 There's so much over speculation. We couldn't go because we 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.200 were on that Great Line tour. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.240 We're contracted to. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.480 It to ur we would never never make change her dates. 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.160 And you've also got to remember guys Emlys in Perth 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.360 like it is so expensive, Like, we don't just zip 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:42.360 around that. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:43.720 Quickly to Perth. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.400 So even if we were free, like I'm sure we 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.000 would have made it work, but like, even if we 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.920 were free, it's a huge investment to fly to Perth. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.320 Like I just thought we would have one hundred percent 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.960 gone if we're free. So we Yeah, we literally were 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.800 contracted to the Grapevine too, and it just didn't line up. Yeah, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.760 and she was cool with it. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:00.520 Of course. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.280 That will be at the wedding, went to the Hens 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.800 like Happy Days. I really love that they actually addressed 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120 the rumors and go there with their listeners. I mean, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.800 that's probably what sets them apart from a lot of influencers, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.200 because there are so many influencers that will put up 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.360 a Q and a box and then they'll get you know, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.640 all of the questions will be, you know, what happened 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.480 with you in this person, and they're like, I'm not 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.280 going into it, so why do you put the Q 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.280 and a box in hers? Exactly? 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.960 My life has changed so much and I think about 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:33.080 Liam every second of every day. It still doesn't feel 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.440 fully real for me that he's not here. Sometimes you know, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.080 I'll week up and it's a reality I have to feace. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.320 Us influenzer. Kay Cassidy has broken her silence giving her 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.960 first interview since her boyfriend Liam Payne's death. In what 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.080 appeared to be a paid interview with UK tabloid The Sun, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.240 Kay opened up about the one direction singer's frame of 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.480 mind during their final days together and how she found 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.840 out about his death. So Kate's decision to give an 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.080 exclusive interview to the Son of all publications has raised eyebrows. Yeah, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.400 it has really surprised the public. I mean I was 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.160 anticipating seeing her maybe on a platform like Call Her Daddy, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.960 which would appeal to a younger demographic and also be 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.400 more of a cultural moment for her. I never thought 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.800 she would give an exclusive to one of the UK's 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.480 biggest tabloids, particularly one that has such a terrible reputation 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.840 for its treatment of young styles. Well, the journalist Clemmie 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.160 Moody was interviewed on one of the morning shows in 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.960 the UK and she specifically pointed out that it was 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.440 Kate's management team who had reached out to the Sun 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.400 a couple of months ago about doing an interview, but 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.400 they put it on pause. I wonder if they were 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.200 hedging their bets. I don't think The Sun would have 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.359 been their first choice, particularly because they have faced allegations 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.760 over phone tapping and really intrusive practices. I don't think 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.040 it made her look good by giving exclusive interview to them. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.920 If anything, I would have thought that Klemy would have 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.360 fought really hard to win Kate over, because in the 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.720 interview she made a point of saying that she knew 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.960 Lee when he was on The X Factor and made 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.120 out like they had some sort of friendship there. So 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.000 I thought, well, maybe Kate's agreed to do this interview 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.200 because she thinks that Clemmy's going to go easy on 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.400 her and be quite sensitive. Well, there's been a lot 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.280 of speculation that this was a paid interview. There has 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.520 been no confirmation of this. I would assume it was. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.000 I one hundred percent think she was paid for this interview. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.680 If her management team a shopping around the story, they're 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.320 clearly looking for a particular price tag. But do we 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.680 blame her. She's lost her partner, and yes he was 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.720 worth a lot of money, but that money is going 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.840 towards his eight year old son. So presumably she would 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.400 be in financial trouble because she was renting a mansion 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.240 with him. I am assumed she's moved out. Yeah, well, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.400 I'm assuming he was paying for a lot of the bills. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.840 I can completely understand why she'd want to be paid 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.520 for the interview because she's opening up about such a 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.920 personal and emotional time. And also she would want to 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.840 clear her name because for some reason, she has become 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.200 a villain in this whole story when she is the 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.560 innocent partner here. I would have thought she might have 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.040 saved her story for a book. I'm sure there's a 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.200 lot of publishers that would be paying her a lot 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:04.879 of money to tell her side of things. There is 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.800 still room for her to do a book deal. Because 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.119 the interview was very surface level, she had strict rules 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.600 in place as to what she would and wouldn't answer, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.080 and the interviewer later came out and said that she 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.480 was barred from asking Kate about the will in particular. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.760 I was also waiting to hear her ask questions about 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.040 the sex workers that Liam was seen with in the 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.040 days leading up to his death. That wasn't touched on 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:28.560 at all either. I think that gives more of an 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.320 indication as to how The Sun actually got this exclusive 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.600 interview because they might have been the only media organization 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.880 to agree not to specifically ask those questions, because if 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.639 she went to a more respected media publication like the BBC, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.880 they would have said, no, if we're doing the interview, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.800 we need to ask you all of these questions to 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.720 be balanced and fair. Yeah. Well, this interview was filmed 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.359 and then broken into two parts which were featured on 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.480 their website, and it was also cut up into a 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.080 ton of TikTok videos. Now, it was quite interesting because 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.359 Kate wore very minimal makeup and she was dressed down 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.240 in jeans and a green knit T shirt. And this 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.840 seemed to be a strategic decision because she was absolutely 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.680 torn to shreds after Liam's funeral because she was accused 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.520 of wearing too much makeup and supposedly caring too much 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.320 about how she looked. I actually didn't recognize her. I've 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.280 seen a lot of her tiktoks, and I was like, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.640 oh God, she looks completely different. I think that must 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.320 have been because she was so paired back. Well, she 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.399 looked very grief stricken, she looked very upset. Well, in 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.520 this morning show interview, the journalist actually said that she 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.399 could tell that Kate had been really mindful about what 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.000 she wore, her makeup, her whole image, and she said 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.280 it wasn't a vanity thing. It was more so because 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.840 she had been so torn apart online. You could tell 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.040