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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and in

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Speaker 1: the studio with us this morning, we've got the opposition

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Speaker 1: the Deputy Opposition Leader, Jered Mayley.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: We've got the independent member for goid A Kesier Purreic

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Speaker 1: Good morning to your Kezier.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Katy, morning bush people.

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Speaker 1: And we've got the member for Fanny Bay, Labour's member

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Speaker 1: for Fatny Bay, Brent Potter, Good morning to your Brents morning.

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Speaker 4: Katie morning. This is and to parents at home with kids.

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Speaker 1: Surviving well, a big shout out to some of my

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Speaker 1: friends who's been who have been helping to keep my children.

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Speaker 5: Entertained as well this week.

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Speaker 1: And yes, Patrick's probably in the car with them right now,

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Speaker 1: so everybody juggling.

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Speaker 5: The children, tormenting kids exactly.

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Speaker 1: Now let's move into something that was very serious in

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Speaker 1: fact from overnight. Unfortunately, news has broken that a woman's

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Speaker 1: been stabbed to death in a community near Mattaaranka. The

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Speaker 1: forty five year old was allegedly stabbed in the back

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Speaker 1: by man in the Julkmingen community at about eleven twenty

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Speaker 1: last night. Despite the efforts of first bonders, she passed

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Speaker 1: away an hour later, a forty six year old man

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Speaker 1: has been arrested and is assisting police with their investigations. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is a very active investigation situation, I would imagine,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of work being done by the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Police. But a terrible example of some of the

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Speaker 1: violence that we do see around the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: I got to say, this is I think the fifth

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Speaker 2: stabbing in the last two or three months, and really

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Speaker 2: enough's enough. The crime is out of controller and don't

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Speaker 2: matter where you are in a charity. You can be

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Speaker 2: an Our Springs, Tenant Creek, Catherine or Darwin or Palmerston

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Speaker 2: and you know it's stabbing is the old Win someone's

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Speaker 2: passed away and it's very unfortunate. But the other crime

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Speaker 2: that goes on, who will come into your houses, People

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Speaker 2: stealing your cars, breaking in their businesses, people just threatening

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Speaker 2: all across in I've just been driving with the kid's

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Speaker 2: actually school holidays and there were so many tourists driving

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Speaker 2: up and down the highway. These people come up they

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Speaker 2: need a good experience. If they come up here and

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Speaker 2: see crime or any social behavior, they go away and

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Speaker 2: tell their friends, don't bother going the Darwen author Teritory

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Speaker 2: and we're a tourism place. We need toughs to come here,

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Speaker 2: we need to spend their money. And it's just a

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Speaker 2: complete failure by the labor government in relation to this.

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Speaker 2: And it just affects bottom line because all the businesses

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Speaker 2: out there, the moms and dads, it's just enough enough.

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Speaker 2: Something's got to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's and tragedy, without a doubt, tragedy all around, and

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Speaker 3: sadly a person's lost their life and perhaps not sadly

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Speaker 3: the other person is going to spend the rest of

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Speaker 3: their life in jail. But it comes back to the

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Speaker 3: use of the knives. A reallyment really needs to have

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Speaker 3: a look at classifying knives differently or making carrying of

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Speaker 3: a knife on your person and offense. If they're looking

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Speaker 3: at it under the various bits of legislation and the

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Speaker 3: twenty million reviews that they're undertaking, well that's good, but

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Speaker 3: come out and talk about it because something needs to

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Speaker 3: be done very seriously about carrying of knives. I get

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Speaker 3: it this was in a community, so probably near houses

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Speaker 3: or whatever, but it's all linked. It has a strong

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Speaker 3: message has to go out. A campaign has to go

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Speaker 3: out to say no knives, no knives at all.

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Speaker 4: So I think we've tragic first and foremost, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think anyone in this room disagrees with that. We

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Speaker 4: obviously disagree with the approach. You know, the CLP have

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Speaker 4: a particular position on what should and shouldn't happen, and

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Speaker 4: we have a different one. I think the chief was

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Speaker 4: on the show a couple of weeks ago. Cadi absolutely

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Speaker 4: committed to make the bail review completely public, so everyone

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Speaker 4: will get to see the information that we got. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to see what the experts opinions are in this space.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've just seen the coronials wrapping up in

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Speaker 4: relation to a DV murder that occurred there. Dv's the

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Speaker 4: absolute scourge we have in our communities. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: whether it's a knife, a bottle of rock, if it's

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Speaker 4: physical violence, dv's the scourge and we need to do

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Speaker 4: more on it. But unfortunately, you know, putting more people

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Speaker 4: away every time it happens doesn't change their behavior. Some

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Speaker 4: people have to go to jail absolutely, like you said, keys,

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Speaker 4: and they need to go for a long time in

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Speaker 4: the courts need to understand the community sent them on this.

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Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, police do an

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Speaker 4: amazing job. They locked it. They've got this guy. He'll

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Speaker 4: go before the court. Now we need to see strong

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Speaker 2: But this is a classic example. We want to bring

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Speaker 2: you just down, you know, using rocks and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. The government had an opportunity to make

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Speaker 2: an offensive weapon for no bail, but they didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: They actually put it in prohibitive Weapon and Control Weapon,

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Speaker 2: the SELP we try to make an amendment that if

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Speaker 2: you use a weapon and no matter what it is,

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Speaker 2: it can be a screwdriver or a broken bottle, and

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Speaker 2: you committed a crime, you should have no bail. The

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Speaker 2: starting point is a presumption or not bail. And Brent

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Speaker 2: has mentioned those things, you know, the rocks, the weapons

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Speaker 2: that people out there are using, and the government had

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to tighten it up and then go and

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Speaker 2: do the review and I fully accept that, but right

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Speaker 2: now it didn't do it. They limited to this controlled

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Speaker 2: and prohibited weapons and people out there now are getting

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Speaker 2: hurt because the label government is.

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Speaker 4: Soft on crime. So let's clarify here very clearly for

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Speaker 4: the listeners. Jared, and you're a lawyer, so you know

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Speaker 4: exactly what you're saying. If a person has committed and

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Speaker 4: they go and do it, they use a rock for

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Speaker 4: a DV assault or a serious aggravator assault, their presumption

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Speaker 4: starts against bail. So to say that we've made it

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Speaker 4: easy for people to get bail as a complete lie.

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Speaker 4: You know exactly how that system works. Now, if the

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Speaker 4: bail review comes back and says, you know, changes to presumptions,

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Speaker 4: changes to weapons, giving police officers ability to warn people

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Speaker 4: we'll tell you what. I'll be standing there and supporting it.

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Speaker 4: I've said that from day dot. But we need to

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Speaker 4: make sure that we don't get any unintended consequences from

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Speaker 4: a policy change that doesn't change the actual event.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the situation that we are in the territory

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Speaker 2: is right now. Don't given a bit of a break.

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Speaker 2: The only limited to such as small class weapons, what

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Speaker 2: it should have been if you committed assaulting year weapons

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Speaker 4: Police, says offensive weapons covers that already.

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Speaker 1: The situation that we have got at the moment, though,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the answers are, but it

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Speaker 1: But we have also got incredibly serious issues when it

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Speaker 5: Now, I don't know what's gone on last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to you know, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say it's a domestic violence incident because I'm not one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure. But what I will say is that

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Speaker 1: we know throughout this week the coroner has of course

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Speaker 1: heard that there's been a one hundred and seventeen percent

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Speaker 1: and it is projected that the increase it's going to

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Speaker 1: That's according to a report on the ABC AS that

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Speaker 1: coronial inquest into the deaths of four Aboriginal women continues

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Speaker 1: about relentless pressure on emergency and community services to handle

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Speaker 5: Now, the coroner has described.

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Speaker 1: The situation as a crisis, with domestic and family violence

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think that anybody in the community is

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Speaker 1: surprised to hear that our emergency services center is totally overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: show to say, Katie, you know, I'm not criticizing the

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Speaker 2: And don't forget the police. Their own survey with a

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Speaker 3: Humans they need. I saw footage on the news and

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Speaker 3: I think there's three people operating in that collroom. But

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Speaker 3: you know, you need more people. If they can't get

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Speaker 3: So you can't just look at it in isolation. It's

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Speaker 3: it's there's all these things are linked. Like go back

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Speaker 3: think some of the fundamental questions that we should be asking.

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Speaker 3: I know, and because I've had correction officers in my

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Speaker 3: and the programs aren't there.

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Speaker 5: So the programs jail system.

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Speaker 4: So I think there's three big issues there. And I

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Speaker 4: mean estimates has only just gone on, and all this

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Speaker 4: stuff's on the public record. But I think you're absolutely right, Keys,

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Speaker 4: it's your own resource and now people, but we're asking

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Speaker 4: right now what programs do we have. We have two

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Speaker 4: talentgy AC Council Runner Men's Behavior Change Program. And DV

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Speaker 4: is the biggest, one of the biggest problems we have

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Speaker 4: in the remote communities. It is linked to alcohol. We

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Speaker 4: see that as a as a primary driving factor. But

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Speaker 4: I think we've got to remember police can't be everything

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Speaker 4: to everyone, and the point when police are responding is

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Speaker 4: we probably failed at that point, Like as in all

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Speaker 4: the programs leading up to that, all the stuff in community,

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Speaker 4: all the community leaders everyone listening. We've all failed at

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Speaker 4: that point and we need to do better on that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're putting over the last two years close

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Speaker 4: to sixty five million dollars into DV and yesterday I

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Speaker 4: Commissioners put on record how many offices he's got back

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Speaker 2: We needed people coming to.

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Speaker 4: What proposed or what the CLP has proposed, is a

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Speaker 4: It's better off being independent. That's what we committed to.

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Speaker 3: And where's this inquiry? I keep hearing about this bloody police.

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Speaker 3: The time this inquiry. I'm an older woman, Christmas will

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Speaker 5: Just get on with it. You don't know. It is

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Speaker 2: I'm getting that is that can even be enacted yet

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Speaker 2: And then the coill say, well, when the programs were

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Speaker 1: Well that's and I guess that's a big thing even

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Speaker 1: So we are going to have to take a bit

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Speaker 5: So the agreement is.

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Speaker 1: Going to enable the Defense, the Department of Defense to

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm pretty sure that.

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Speaker 3: I eat, we're getting that in rent. That's brilliant. Where's

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Speaker 2: You know the rules path that's like, just don't put the.

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Speaker 3: Fifty million over the five per year, over five years

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Speaker 2: It's Moneyney. Maybe this will bring an end to the

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Speaker 2: debarcle of the Howard Spring Center. All the wear and tear.

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Speaker 3: That guarantee those boys and girls won't trash the joint.

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Speaker 3: Planning in the first place incompetence putting people in that area. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Let anyone else in there other than there.

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Speaker 4: So now that Jared's throwing a woman about a conspiracy

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Speaker 4: So one million and fifty was spent for security twenty

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Speaker 4: dollars eight thousand dollars for damage. Now, the chief has

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Speaker 4: our tourism operators. The resorts were good because they had

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Speaker 4: people in it from defense, but the tourism operators weren't

440
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Speaker 4: getting the tourists that were coming through and staying. So

441
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Speaker 4: this is a great outcome because it means that our

442
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Speaker 4: you know, our hotel accommodation is free for tourists and

443
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Speaker 4: defense will then take it.

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Speaker 1: We did hear from a hotel operator earlier in the

445
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Speaker 1: week and he said to me, Katie, it is like, obviously,

446
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Speaker 1: you know, good news, but then it's going to have

447
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Speaker 1: an impact for somebody like him because that they do

448
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Speaker 1: have defense come and stay, like when they arrive in town,

449
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Speaker 1: they also have defense. Like if there's families leaving that

450
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Speaker 1: come and stay.

451
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Speaker 5: There and keep going there. Okay, So they're still.

452
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Speaker 4: Just to clarify for everyone, this is what they would

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Speaker 4: call an overflow facility. So so it'll be managed under

454
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Speaker 4: the extent contract that someone like Ventia has for the

455
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Speaker 4: base services and they manage subcontractors. It'll be an overflow

456
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Speaker 4: facility for things like diamond Storm for Talisman, say but

457
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Speaker 4: that we see right now with thirteen hundred multinationals, you

458
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Speaker 4: see from the Defense Strategic g view more increased in

459
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Speaker 4: training activities in the North. It will become what we

460
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Speaker 4: would call a staging base to move people in the

461
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Speaker 4: training areas and move them out. But families on their

462
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Speaker 4: posting cycle still they still have an entitlement other Pain

463
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Speaker 4: Conditions Act, which not many people know to go into

464
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Speaker 4: a hotel when they're leaving their current location and going

465
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Speaker 4: into their new location.

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Speaker 2: So they can't be all defense or Americans or Australians.

467
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Speaker 4: So this might be well, like we do on any

468
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Speaker 4: of our defense precincts, if you've got a partner nation

469
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Speaker 4: that comes in, they'll stay on base. We recently saw

470
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Speaker 4: the Indonesians we're here doing some activities with the first brigade.

471
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Speaker 4: We saw the Gurkhas from the British Army. We're here,

472
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Speaker 4: so it'll be used as a bed overflow. Now in

473
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Speaker 4: terms of the fifty million dollars, so it's a fifty

474
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Speaker 4: million dollar contract per year, eighteen million dollars of that

475
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Speaker 4: will go to the NTG. Now where that currently goes

476
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Speaker 4: and what that gets reinvested if it's going to be

477
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Speaker 4: a royalties for your region is out in your area, Eysier.

478
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Speaker 4: But at the moment, I would be very shocked and

479
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Speaker 4: it would be very shocked to find out that we

480
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Speaker 4: have a planer than for it to come into the

481
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Speaker 4: anti government and then from there we'll see.

482
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Speaker 1: Did you get a message from Jerry Wood throughout the

483
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Speaker 1: week and he said the IMPEX camp recreation facilities were

484
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Speaker 1: to be given to the community when Impects left, regardless

485
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Speaker 1: of the idea of taking a lease over the camp.

486
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Speaker 1: The recreation facility should be open to the local community

487
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Speaker 1: as reward for the camp being built in the rural area,

488
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Speaker 1: as promised at a public meeting at Howard Springs.

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Speaker 2: We try to get them to open the pool when

490
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Speaker 2: the Palmsan Pool was shut. Remember and it's nation and

491
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Speaker 2: they won't even do that. They would't let people in the

492
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Speaker 2: So again government just saying something and doing something completely different.

493
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Speaker 3: It also goes to the heart of what this government's

494
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Speaker 3: not very good at, even though they say they are,

495
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Speaker 3: is there was no consultation with the community in regards

496
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Speaker 3: to Stralian Defense Force taking up residents at this Impacts camp.

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Speaker 3: Have they spoken to yeah, good Shepherd School next door something?

498
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Speaker 5: Then Ticket raised, they.

499
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Speaker 3: Actually do a courtesy talk to the local member who's

500
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Speaker 3: sitting next doored me. Did they talk to any of

501
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Speaker 3: the other stakeholders? The question is that the answer is no,

502
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Speaker 3: So I do. I have no issue with defense people

503
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Speaker 3: being there at all. They will look after the joint

504
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Speaker 3: for sure, and they'll contribute to our economy and our community.

505
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Speaker 3: Have no issue with that. But once again it shows

506
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Speaker 3: whether we should question Defense about this because Duice Defense

507
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Speaker 3: is pretty good at consultation. They put bloody letters down

508
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Speaker 3: my road all the time when they're going to do

509
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Speaker 3: something that Rob's army barracks, which is nice because then

510
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Speaker 3: we know what's happening. So why in this instance has

511
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Speaker 3: the government just done this deal? Did they talk to you?

512
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Speaker 2: I found about it when there's a pink sign on

513
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Speaker 2: the front feence, so I stopped and look at what

514
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Speaker 2: it was.

515
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Speaker 4: It shows that people actually read the pink sign. But

516
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Speaker 4: I'll answer some of.

517
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Speaker 3: Your points consultation yet again, let.

518
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Speaker 4: Me answer some of those points. Firstly, in terms of consultation,

519
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Speaker 4: there are ntg government owned and least buildings all through

520
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Speaker 4: Darwin and.

521
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Speaker 3: We put hold on hold on speaker than that.

522
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Speaker 4: I let you speak. We didn't put in. We don't

523
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Speaker 4: go and talk to the next doornave and say we're

524
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Speaker 4: putting in dipple in here, or we're putting in here,

525
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Speaker 4: or we're putting in territory families here. It doesn't work

526
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Speaker 4: like that, and then not always there permanently. So the

527
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Speaker 4: reality of it is they'll they'll infill for our major

528
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Speaker 4: training activity season and then they'll xfill it will not

529
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Speaker 4: be occupied twenty four to seven to capacity. And at

530
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Speaker 4: the end of the day was the ds and in

531
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Speaker 4: the Defense Strategic Review, I'm sure this would have been

532
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Speaker 4: part of a submission you're not worthy, no, no, But my

533
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Speaker 4: point is there's a national security point on this, and

534
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Speaker 4: with the DSR, there's some things that just don't go public.

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Speaker 1: Somebody has just messaged through and said, you know, more

536
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Speaker 1: than a million dollars spent on security, yet there was

537
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Speaker 1: still more than six hundred windows.

538
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Speaker 5: Broken, Like, how does that happen? And no one's charged?

539
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Speaker 3: Now they were stopping people.

540
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Speaker 4: That's a fair question. A yeah, trouble YEA. Ultimately, like

541
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Speaker 4: I've made very clear my own personal position on this,

542
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Speaker 4: the people that didn't need to be HOWD accountable need

543
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Speaker 4: to pay for them to be prosecuted have that. It

544
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Speaker 4: is a good question. It is a good question of

545
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Speaker 4: what the security like if if that was allowed to occur,

546
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Speaker 4: how that was allowed to carry We definitely need and

547
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Speaker 4: I'm sure and the Minister said this during estimates they'll

548
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Speaker 4: be doing a deep dive review of the whole thing.

549
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Speaker 2: What about two hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars for

550
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Speaker 2: buses to every people to Palm Center back that came

551
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Speaker 2: out in estimates.

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Speaker 5: As well, and that that's a lot of money.

553
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Speaker 3: And they also fed and water three meals a day

554
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Speaker 3: because I know someone who worked in the kitchen out there,

555
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Speaker 3: so that well, but that cost hasn't been in your

556
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Speaker 3: little resist.

557
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Speaker 1: Say if anybody is out there listening this morning, because

558
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Speaker 1: I know that there is quite a few of you

559
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Speaker 1: who are very good with the tenders online. So if

560
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Speaker 1: you are out there listening this morning and you happen

561
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Speaker 1: to be going through the tenders and want to let

562
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Speaker 1: us know if there's one out there for how it springs,

563
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Speaker 1: I've got it up there, but I'm not as good

564
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Speaker 1: at finding those tenders. Please feel free to give us

565
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Speaker 1: a call or send us a message. But look, I

566
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Speaker 1: do want to sort of stay in the realm of Defense,

567
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Speaker 1: but certainly a bit of a different topic, which is

568
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Speaker 1: the fact that we'd revealed on the show, not that

569
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Speaker 1: the week just gone, but the one before.

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Speaker 5: The fact that the airport works.

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Speaker 1: So the works on the runway which are being conducted

572
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Speaker 1: by Defense are going to have quite an impact when

573
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Speaker 1: it comes to some of the flights in and out of.

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Speaker 5: The Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: To this point or so far, we know that it's

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Speaker 1: going to impact that flight to Balley. Now, I want

577
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Speaker 1: you to just take a listen to what the Chief

578
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Speaker 1: Minister had to say on the show about this a

579
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Speaker 1: little bit earlier this morning, in terms of calling for

580
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Speaker 1: some clarity from both the Airport Development Group and also

581
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Speaker 1: from Defense.

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Speaker 5: Take a listen.

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Speaker 6: And that's why, Katie, we need those two organizations to

584
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Speaker 6: come together to come up with a plan with the

585
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 6: most minimal disruption on the runway access for both our

586
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Speaker 6: community and tourists alike, and then to share that with people.

587
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Speaker 6: So we really call on them to sort it out.

588
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Speaker 6: We all get the works need.

589
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Speaker 5: To take place.

590
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Speaker 6: We've seen runway works take place previous decades and it

591
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Speaker 6: has an impact, but we need them to come together

592
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Speaker 6: to have that plan. So exactly for your point, we're

593
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Speaker 6: trying to attract new airlines. We want to support the

594
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Speaker 6: airlines we've got here. We know how vital our air

595
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Speaker 6: services are.

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Speaker 1: Are you confident that that was the Chief Minister on

597
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Speaker 1: the show a little bit earlier in the week, just

598
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Speaker 1: talking about these works on the runway. I think everybody

599
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Speaker 1: is a little bit concerned about the impact that it's

600
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Speaker 1: going to have.

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Speaker 5: We all understand the work needs to happen, as we

602
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Speaker 5: just heardly.

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Speaker 3: One airline to one destination, that's right, I don't understand that.

604
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Speaker 2: I think the other thing is this really shows that

605
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Speaker 2: Natasha Files and Mano have done the best to confuse Territorius.

606
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Speaker 2: You know what is going on here to what about

607
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Speaker 2: the planning? This is going to interrupt a lot of people.

608
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Speaker 2: We all know the people in Darwin. What about the

609
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: holidays and what about trying to get more flights into Darwin.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's a big point.

611
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Speaker 2: I think big point other regional airlines who want to

612
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Speaker 2: come to darl and go well, what's going on That

613
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Speaker 2: government don't.

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Speaker 1: Say, though, I will say because I know that the

615
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Speaker 1: colp ran this line last week as well, saying that

616
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Speaker 1: you know that it was the government being maybe not

617
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Speaker 1: being as open and transparent, whereas for me, I actually

618
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Speaker 1: feel as though it's not that situation. In this case,

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Speaker 1: it is a situation where they've not been advised what's

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Speaker 1: gone on. Like when I was interviewing the Tourism minister

621
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Speaker 1: about this, she did not know that those flights were

622
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Speaker 1: not happening for that month, and as soon as she

623
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Speaker 1: found out, within half an hour she'd gotten.

624
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Speaker 5: Back to us and told us. But why on.

625
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Speaker 1: Earth is that information not actually being passed on when

626
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Speaker 1: you've then got the Tourism minister out there trying to lure,

627
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Speaker 1: trying to get airlines to put on additional routes like

628
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Speaker 1: there is no chance.

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Speaker 3: Just one quickie, nothing to do with laboral colp. The question,

630
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Speaker 3: the question is go for it. Let's pick on the colony.

631
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Speaker 3: Why it's yes, we accept for those not listening that

632
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Speaker 3: they know the ref and come off. Government owns a

633
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Speaker 3: da on airport or maintains it runs it. Why didn't

634
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Speaker 3: the airport operators being Department of Defense let the Northern

635
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Speaker 3: Territory government know and airport people if they didn't, if

636
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Speaker 3: they did, so be it. Why didn't they let them

637
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Speaker 3: know that an airway, a runway was going to be

638
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Speaker 3: out of action for x amount of time which would

639
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Speaker 3: disrupt commercial services. So where's the courtesy from the bloody

640
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: Department of Defense and their operators and contractors in regards

641
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Speaker 3: to this issue.

642
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Speaker 1: They must have because the point here is if the

643
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Speaker 1: jets Star knows though, and if Jetstar is in a

644
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: situation where they're able to cancel flights for a month,

645
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Speaker 1: then the airport must know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: So Listener is exactly how it plays out. So there

647
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Speaker 4: is actually two government or two government agencies at a

648
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Speaker 4: federal level that they have responsibility for the airport. So

649
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Speaker 4: it is a defense owned asset absolutely, the runway itself,

650
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Speaker 4: but Airport Development Group answer through to Catherine King. Yes

651
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Speaker 4: they're a private entity, but Catherine King's department actually owns

652
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: that piece of land, so it's least to them. So

653
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 4: between two federal government agencies and Airport Development Group, they

654
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 4: would have absolutely would have known what was going on.

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Speaker 4: There is a disconnect between what the deal being done

656
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Speaker 4: between Defense and Airport Development Group. When we found out

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Speaker 4: about it, and obviously we found out late to the game,

658
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Speaker 4: and we can't control well, we're going to love them

659
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Speaker 4: from day dot to have a sitting at the table

660
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Speaker 4: so we could sit there and work through the solutions

661
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Speaker 4: with them rather than finding out when things have blown up.

662
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Speaker 4: And you know, Jet stares being told that they're going

663
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Speaker 4: to potentially not be able to fly to Bailey and

664
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Speaker 4: Territorians absolutely deserve better, and we're trying to get low

665
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Speaker 4: cost airlines like bondser and those up to Darwin and

666
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Speaker 4: this just does not help. Their defense needs to pull

667
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Speaker 4: their finger out and actually release the project plan if

668
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Speaker 4: they haven't already to MTG, so we can have a

669
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Speaker 4: look at it and get us in the room with

670
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Speaker 4: the ADG if we need to make that deal. But

671
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, there's two big federal

672
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Speaker 4: departments that have the ability to sit you walk in

673
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Speaker 4: and have it meeting together and both Ministers Katherine King

674
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Speaker 4: and Michard Marles and those if they need to.

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Speaker 1: What do you think those that this means in terms

676
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Speaker 1: of you know, if we've already got a situation for

677
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Speaker 1: a month where Jetstar is not prepared to fly those

678
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Speaker 1: flights to.

679
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Speaker 5: Bali, how are we going to get other airlines or

680
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Speaker 5: how are we going to get other other roots?

681
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Speaker 4: More seats in and out of Darlce, So we just

682
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Speaker 4: so what they've said was there'd be minimal disruption from

683
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Speaker 4: what I've heard publicly, they'd be doing it in the

684
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Speaker 4: afternoon when we've got the least amount of flights going in,

685
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Speaker 4: and it impacts jets absolutely and it does make sense.

686
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Speaker 4: But we've also got to ask a big question about

687
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Speaker 4: our airlines. Why are we getting red eye flights out

688
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 4: of Darlin to the capital cities. And the reason is

689
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Speaker 4: because they have the curfainess. It's cheaper for them, not

690
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Speaker 4: better for territories, but it's cheaper for them to fly

691
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Speaker 4: to down and get us on a red eye and

692
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Speaker 4: then fly us out like they have an.

693
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Speaker 1: Absolutely pay absolute top dollar for it as well.

694
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Speaker 5: It drives my like and.

695
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Speaker 4: There is no reason for it, and it's one of

696
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Speaker 4: those ones that the Atriple C should absolutely be looking into,

697
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Speaker 4: and the a Triple C actually looked into when Corners

698
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Speaker 4: was offering their voucher scheme back after COVID and then

699
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know, the price is dropped

700
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Speaker 4: at that same time, like the prices were high when

701
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Speaker 4: people were using their vouchers, So there is a mechanism

702
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Speaker 4: to review it. But at the end of the Day,

703
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Speaker 4: Catherine king Ard Miles. They're the two responsible minister's own

704
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: infrastructure and defense and those two things need to get

705
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Speaker 4: together and solve it.

706
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Speaker 2: So you're planning out the labor government.

707
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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying that they have the ability at

708
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Speaker 4: the ministerial level there that apartments day on the asset.

709
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Speaker 4: I can't go to your house and say, hey, Jared,

710
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Speaker 4: you need to fix up your guarden or whatever.

711
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Speaker 2: But I understand we're joking a bit. But if you're

712
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Speaker 2: the anti government and you're responsible for territorians, why don't

713
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: you do that? Why don't you go and knock on

714
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: those on those doors. If THEED and say, well you're

715
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: sitting old they haven't come and talk to us, Well

716
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: why not go.

717
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Speaker 4: And talk about now they didn't at the time.

718
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Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen because this shows there's a

719
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Speaker 2: lack of planning and if you didn't know about you

720
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Speaker 2: didn't know about it. But you know, it just really

721
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Speaker 2: affects territorians day out.

722
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Speaker 3: The air fair is not just from interstate to interstate whatever. No, No,

723
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Speaker 3: it's interest as well. Because Dar went to Elko Island

724
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: return it's eight hundred ninety nine dollars. It's the airlines

725
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Speaker 3: and the industry itself and what's going on now in

726
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Speaker 3: regards to the jet Star jets so obviously needs a

727
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: certain length runway and that's the one that's being repaired.

728
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: But surely there must be I mean the flights to

729
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Speaker 3: Camera and Sydney and Melbourne are still operating and they're

730
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: larger planes in a larger, longer runway. Surely there's something

731
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Speaker 3: that the jet Stars of this world can do in

732
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Speaker 3: consultation with the airport perhaps CENTI governments in Boldman to

733
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Speaker 3: negotiate some kind of access to the other runways. I

734
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: get it it comes at a cost, but hey, we're

735
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Speaker 3: talking about people being able to leave dar and come

736
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Speaker 3: into darl It's not just to no, not MKT is

737
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Speaker 3: probably too small, but I mean to negotiate at the

738
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Speaker 3: Darne Airport. There's more than one or two runways there, so.

739
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Speaker 4: It's space and timing, yes, but that's.

740
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Speaker 3: What the government needs to be doing with those other

741
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Speaker 3: parties is to try and get access because we're talking

742
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Speaker 3: business people as well.

743
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Speaker 4: Coming out the Minister said we're absolutely having discussions the

744
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Speaker 4: airlines and AGT to get them in and find a

745
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Speaker 4: deal that gets them here.

746
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Speaker 1: Well, we are going to have to take a very

747
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Speaker 1: short break. You are listening to Mix one O four

748
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: nine's three sixty. It is the week that was. Plenty

749
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: of messages coming through on the text slide. I'll get

750
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Speaker 1: to those very shortly. A lot of people up in

751
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Speaker 1: arms about the amount that it's cost for security in

752
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Speaker 1: fact out there at Howard Springs, and plenty of people

753
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Speaker 1: sort of asking why are those windows or why we're

754
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: still in a situation where so many windows were still

755
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: damaged despite the fact that you know that they had

756
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Speaker 1: that security there. But look, we have spoken at length

757
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: about that. I do want to talk about the fact

758
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Speaker 1: that the interest rates remained on hold throughout this week,

759
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Speaker 1: a bit of relief for quite a few Aussies and Territorians,

760
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Speaker 1: with the Reserve Bank keeping those interest rates on hold

761
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Speaker 1: this month at four point one percent.

762
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Speaker 5: Now.

763
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Speaker 1: The bank's board says the decision will give it time

764
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Speaker 1: to assess the state of the economy, but more rate

765
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Speaker 1: hikes could be coming now. The RBA Governor General Philip

766
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Lowe said the Board remains resolution in its determination to

767
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Speaker 1: return inflation to target and will do what is necessary

768
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Speaker 1: to achieve that. It is tough for a lot of

769
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Speaker 1: families right now. You know, when you look at your

770
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Speaker 1: mortgage rates, you look at how much you know you've

771
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Speaker 1: been paying for the last hour of many years, and

772
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Speaker 1: then people's mortgages, interest rates going up, those payments going up,

773
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Speaker 1: and I think then the flow on as well. We've

774
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Speaker 1: spoken about that throughout the week to the flow on

775
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Speaker 1: in terms of peace people that have maybe got an

776
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Speaker 1: investment property, and is the rents going up in those

777
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Speaker 1: investment properties.

778
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Speaker 6: He do.

779
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: I've mentioned this before. What happens when or what I

780
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: believe happens when people get put into situations of financial stress,

781
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: is they start to give up things that are intangible,

782
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: like insurance, like they give up their insurance on their

783
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: house or their car, or even health insurance, any kind

784
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: of insurance because they can't see it. So they think,

785
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: I'll be right, what happened to me? You know, a

786
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: good Aussie way we go about things. And so that's

787
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: a concern is because they are the things that you

788
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: should keep. But you know, that's what people do. They

789
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: start to give up things they can't see. They start

790
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: to obviously pull back on expenses, whether it be children's

791
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: activities or going out or purchasing new products, and so

792
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: you see also then see a dropping the purchase of

793
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: new cars, but you see an increase in the sale

794
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: of old cars or used cars. And the other thing

795
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: too that happens when things get really tough is you

796
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: see a lot of people not buying new products. They

797
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: repair the old products. So you see a drop in

798
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: the sales of new products whatever it may be. Injured

799
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: washing machine. Good for the repair kind of people, because

800
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: they then lift their business a little bit too. But

801
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: they're the indicators, and that's that's the concern in these

802
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: tough times, just people start to make some really serious

803
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: decisions that probably okay in the short term, but meetingum

804
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: to long term they're not a good decision at all.

805
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: It just goes to show that, you know, the unfortunately

806
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: obor government have failed territorianes once again. We're talking about crime.

807
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Earlier we talked about how it's springs. We're talking about

808
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: cost of living because I'm breaking record because everything's failed

809
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: the government seven years. Look, it's not only what we've

810
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: spoke about it, but what about when you go and

811
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: get building done or you're going to get your living

812
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: cost of living is going right, and you to get

813
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: someone to turn up and do something. Materials like I've

814
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: got a new fence and putting in the Steel's goind

815
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: of like forty in that it just really goes to

816
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: show that and the power power prices are going up, well,

817
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: it's prices.

818
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Are going up before we get there, Before we get there,

819
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: because obviously we are pretty lucky here in the Northern

820
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Speaker 1: Territory in the sense that the yes go to the

821
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: interest rates if you like first Branson, No, I.

822
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: Think you know everyone's feeling like you said, Jared, you've

823
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 4: got kids. I've got kids, ye Keisy, you've got a farm.

824
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: You're running out there. We've got to pay for you know,

825
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 4: we've come out of COVID. There's a lot of spending

826
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Speaker 4: both federal, state and by individuals during COVID and post COVID.

827
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 4: And to be honest, telling you a little I wish

828
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: I could say to them, I think the RBA is

829
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: going to stop there. I don't think they are. They're

830
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: not going to get in. Their mandate is about two

831
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: to three and a half percentiflation rate. We're not at

832
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: that point. There are some people that are coming off

833
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 4: fixed interest rates that are going to see their interests

834
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: go up by about four or five percentage go from

835
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: about two percent to about six and a half seven.

836
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: I think your standard variable seeing at about seven percent at

837
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: the moment. So there are going to be a lot

838
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: of people hurting out there, and it's absolutely the reason

839
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: we're putting more money into keeping power prices like well.

840
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: And so obviously those power prices here in the Territory,

841
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: they're not set to go up a huge amount of

842
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: seeing compet comparatively to other states. But what we do

843
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: know is that the ABC is this morning reporting that

844
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: the Top Ends electricity greedy is facing risks of blackouts

845
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: within three years because the Northern Territory government has been

846
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: slow to deal with increasing rooftop solar and the scheduled

847
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: retirement of gas generators. That's according to the Northern Territories

848
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: Utilities Commission report. There is But look, I used to

849
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: work for the Minister for Essential Services and what I

850
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: can tell you is that that infrastructure has been aging

851
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: and it's been in a world of pain for a

852
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: long time, and no government's prepared to spend a lot

853
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: of money on it because it's not sexy.

854
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: You've gone to the heart of part of the problem

855
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: in regards to power and water or not power infrastructure

856
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: is that it has not been maintained. I remember talking

857
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: about this well fifteen twenty year ago when I was

858
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 3: at the Mineral's Council and we had the Business Council

859
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: group of all the industry groups, and that was one

860
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: of the key concerns was the lack of maintenance and

861
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: improvements to our.

862
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: Power remembers got the station.

863
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: We've had some terrible situations transformer whatever. Yeah, I never

864
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: quite believe the line out at Channel liing and we

865
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Speaker 3: lost power for up to.

866
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Speaker 2: Five How it takes like seven years to order and

867
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Speaker 2: get attended for one of these big generators government, you know,

868
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: they're already end of life, and I think estimates that

869
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: they're putting them back to zero. Ours you're trying to

870
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: extend the life. That's how much that costs in relation

871
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: to that. When you know this government, you know the

872
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Labor government, you've been in power for seven years, but

873
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: for the last you know, sixteen or seventeen years, our

874
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: last twenty years with the Labor government up here, and

875
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: these factors we're talking about the replacement and the program.

876
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Speaker 2: It costs millions and million dollars These aren't cheap generators.

877
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: They are big and they need time to fix.

878
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: We are in a better position than the rest of

879
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Speaker 4: the country in terms of how we sit separate in

880
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: the national grid. But hold on, that's speculation. What I

881
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: can tell you absolutely is we're.

882
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 5: Going to put money into.

883
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: Three years.

884
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: Well, the speculation three is if we do nothing and

885
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 4: we don't upbreak the grid and we don't do these

886
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 4: zero timing about gas turbine generators, then we're potentially facing

887
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: black hats. Now you're heard in this. There's a lot

888
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: and Jared made this one. There's a lot of information

889
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: that came out in estimates about what we're doing to

890
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: get these solar farms online. They should have been online earlier.

891
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. And there's probably some electrical

892
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: engineers going, hey, it's still a very complex problem to solve,

893
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: but we'll solve that. We want to see things like

894
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: some cable come off. We want to see upgrades, and

895
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: we're doing it without undergrading power. We committed to territorians

896
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: to undergrade their power. But I think the key that

897
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: territories need to take away from this is fifteen to

898
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: thirty percent increases on the East and sea board for

899
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: power prices where yes you'll have a small increase of

900
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: two point seven, but it's capped. We've done that.

901
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: Are we actually going to get to the point where

902
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: we can't keep it capped forever? Because we do need

903
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: some serious infrastructure upgrades.

904
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: Infrastructure We put on.

905
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: Infrastructure and look get money into the into the fund

906
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: which actually keeps the balances. So the government is paying

907
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: taxpayers money into this, so we're fun.

908
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: I think it was a community service obligation.

909
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Which is seventy one million which have gone up, so

910
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: the benefit ofativity.

911
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: I'm really not advocating for power prices to go up.

912
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: God knows.

913
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't want those power prices to go up, you know,

914
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: none of us do. But I guess then that I

915
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: can see well and the concern that I can see

916
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: though over the years, you know, having like having worked

917
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: for power and Water and having worked for the Essential

918
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Services Minister and having a look at it now, but

919
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: also having a look at when the CLP was in

920
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: power and that there wasn't money invested into the infrastructure

921
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to power.

922
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: They did in estimate. The question was asked with I

923
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: think it was Robin Lamblet said, we'll put it to

924
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: power and wren And said, why have you got a

925
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: one point eight billion dollar debt? And he rightly put

926
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: it out there. He goes, it's a healthy debt for

927
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 4: us to have because we're investing in our infrastructure. That's

928
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: money they're putting into building new poles and wires and

929
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: new generators.

930
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: Changing all of that labor seats.

931
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: But you've got to remember, Katie, that if we don't

932
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: cap power prices and we don't continue to offset it,

933
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: there are territories that will forego on their power prices,

934
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 4: that will have their power turned off, that will then

935
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: be home like all these things. Then you know, trickle

936
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: down and snowball, and we get in a position we've

937
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: got people who are homeless and cannot go to the problems.

938
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 5: So what are the other things the concerns?

939
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 4: But it's not let's clarify. He made it very clear

940
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 4: as the CFA. It's spin.

941
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: All right, everyone's very fine on behalf of my rural constituency.

942
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: I want to add that when power goes out, most

943
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: rural people also lose access to their water well because

944
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: the board doesn't work because you've got no power, and

945
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: the masher pump doesn't work to pump it into your house.

946
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: So rural people lose access to water, which means there's

947
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: sewerage as well, unless they're meaning the toilet flush. Yes,

948
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: you can flush it with a bucket of water, and

949
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: that's fine. So that's the first thing. And the second

950
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: thing is the government changed the solar rebates ses and

951
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: they just said, oh, we've just did because we have to.

952
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: So, you know, disappointed.

953
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how it ever happened that he and

954
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: I built two massive solar farms at Manton Dan also

955
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: one down at Bachelor, and yet somehow it doesn't talk

956
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: to our current system. Now, who cocked that up.

957
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: And get it sorted out?

958
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: There's two solar farms they're sitting not doing what they

959
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 3: meant to be doing, so that needs to be sorted

960
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: out our safety.

961
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: And what the answer was is that they put them on,

962
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: tested them, and then they worked out if they let

963
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: them go for any longer, their system would go out

964
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: because it was made system unstable. So they had to

965
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: cut them out and it didn't work.

966
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: Just to clap and I'm not an electrical engineer, and

967
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: I know you're not a You do some great videos

968
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: on Marma repairs so different electricity. But my point is

969
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm an electrical engineer. However, it's not as simple as

970
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 4: saying when it turned it on, it is used to fault.

971
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: It's like an analog and digital system coming together on

972
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: the network and that's where there was inducing faults.

973
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: So well, look we are going to have to take

974
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: a very short break. Well that is just about it

975
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: for us this morning. It's been a busy morning. Before

976
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: I let you all go though, what did you make

977
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: of the crickets and what did you make of the

978
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: brewery behind one.

979
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Speaker 5: Of Australia's biggest beers.

980
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: Funny jumping into the ongoing for or around the ashes

981
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: with that cheeky dig at the English cricket team they

982
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: have they make the be Obviously.

983
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: They did it.

984
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: They did it in India. So the first time Indian

985
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: cricket player they did exactly the thing. He put his

986
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: leg out of the crease and they stumped him. So

987
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: stop whinging your winging poms.

988
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Wow, you really feel my constituents who are English ancestry

989
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: people like, Honestly, hasn't it just made like it's been

990
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: really see how people have taken it.

991
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 5: I always think so long as you're playing by the rules.

992
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: And I know that there's some people that are going well,

993
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: it's mostly just just the English.

994
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: The spirit of cricket game went long time ago. Well,

995
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: it's so you just.

996
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 4: Got to win.

997
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Of course, it's even better when we beat the Poms.

998
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: Right well.

999
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 5: I do love though that that cub did make.

1000
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: They've sent them the English England Bitter and yeah, and

1001
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I sent it alot with like with promotional stuff as

1002
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: well into it. You apparently sent them as a slab

1003
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: and said you know you can enjoy this and and.

1004
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: There was a bit of a line with it that

1005
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: went along.

1006
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: With the song that they would usually have for your

1007
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: VB for Victoria Bitch. So but yeah, it's interesting, very interesting,

1008
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: and I think that it's made cricket very interesting for

1009
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: even those that maybe don't usually watch.

1010
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: It's on a bit earlier too, like you don't have

1011
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 4: to get up after midnight to watch it.

1012
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 5: Sit and just enjoy.

1013
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Well. Wonderful to have you all in the studio with

1014
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: us this morning. Jared Bailey, the Deputy Opposition leader, thanks

1015
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning.

1016
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: Thank you. If you've got Lamar out there, let me know.

1017
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: I bet it's not a right.

1018
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 5: Technician.

1019
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Have you got tutorials on your Facebook page?

1020
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: Mechanic by trade? Remember, hey, there you go.

1021
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: Not an electrical engineer.

1022
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: Profession now politician. I've got my.

1023
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: I've got my training videos in progress on how to resuscitate.

1024
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, go on keys here she's writing a book

1025
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: about it as well.

1026
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 4: What have you got no videos? I've just got videos

1027
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 4: and photos and my kids trashing our house in school holiday,

1028
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: so you know that.

1029
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: Oh, good on you. Thank you all so much for

1030
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: your time.

1031
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Speaker 1: Brent Potter, the member for Fanny bay kesy Emperic of course,

1032
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: the member for god and Uh and Jereed Maylee, the

1033
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: deputy Opposition leader.

1034
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Speaker 5: There that was the week that was