WEBVTT - Changing The Way You Look For A Job 💄 👗 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:03.560 Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frimes. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:11.600 This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.959 Flex and Frooms on Catera. Recently out of conversation I 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.800 wasn't expecting to have in twenty twenty three. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:14.240 I don't know. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.799 It's because I've curated my life so specifically that I 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:19.920 don't have to engage in things that I don't relate 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.480 to in the slidest but I was interacting with an acquaintance. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:29.000 I would say, who said to me or who remarked 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.319 that they were surprised I had a whole mouthful of 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.160 tooth gems. I haven't diden my teeth recently, I would say, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.960 the front like all of them, All of my front 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.120 teeth have specklings of tooth gems. There's maybe fifty in 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.559 my mouth as we speak. And this person said, do 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.880 I find trouble with work like? Is that a consideration? 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.920 To which I said, in so many words, no, it's 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.280 not an issue. And they remark that they were going 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.040 for a job in a creative field and had recently 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.400 got their single tooth gem removed, cut their blonde balliaged 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:04.240 hair to a short brown bob, and gotten a new outfit. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.360 To be quote unquote taken seriously. I don't want to 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.720 be that person who acts like their naive about the 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.640 way the world works. But I was like, really, was 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.560 that all necessary for a creative job? Are we doing that? 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:18.000 Still? 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.560 I'm not I stopt being professional. At least in twenty fifteen. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.600 I will say that's a privilege that we have because 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:27.120 and I earned it. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.200 Thank you exactly exactly. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.080 It's like, how I'm really goofy over email? Yeah that 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.200 came after seven years of best. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:39.959 Yeah kind of yeah, yeah, dear, do you want too 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:40.720 many deers? 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.880 When I finished school and I was trying to get 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.640 into UNI, you had to do this interview to get 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.040 into the course that I wanted to do, and I 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.760 was like, oh my god, I really really want this. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:51.720 And so I went out and bought like a pussy 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.440 bow blouse and a little skirt with tights and boots 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.600 and yeah, like the thing had a pussy bowl on it, right, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.880 So it's like giving nine in fifties the way you keep. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.440 Saying it again, and and I know, you know, I know, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:04.880 you know. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.040 So it came up with pussy bow blouse. Anyway, I 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.200 rock into iron my tea in my pussy bow blouse 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.880 and I walk in. The guy said, why are you 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.799 dressed like that? The lecturer, he says, why are you 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.200 dressed like that? I'm taking it back. I thought, are 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.080 you even allowed to say that? Like I'm thinking, am 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.160 I gonna be able to get you dismissed? This is 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.320 my Precaren era. Okay, it was bubblon Karen Oris in 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.320 the story. And you know, so that that was an example. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.040 It's like that was a very creative course. But I 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.000 took it really seriously and I really wanted something. I 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.000 think desperation does funny things to people. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.760 Desperation is a theme that keeps coming up for us, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.360 and it's a new one. Not that we are but 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.240 we're seeing it in the world, and you know, the 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.480 world is you reflected back? 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:44.959 Can I get it? 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:45.520 Who rah? 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:46.079 Who Rah? 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:46.960 I get who Rah. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.760 It's a tricky one because, like I said, when I 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.960 looked at this person, and I'm just gonna say what, 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.640 it was plain Caucasian woman, like the most quote unquote 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:02.760 inoffensive type of woman in Australia for Australian standards. We 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.920 don't need to go too deeply into it. And so 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.360 when I thought, when I looked at her, I was like, damn, like, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.639 you got a generic name, you know. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.400 Holly, it's not I don't want to. I don't want to. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.280 Is that generic? I said, you got a generic name. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.200 You know, you're seen as neutral, you are conventionally attractive, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.720 and it's so interesting that you've taken these additional steps 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.440 to be considered as someone who is worthy of taking 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.000 up this space. I remember she was also mentioning that, 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.600 like she knows someone who's offering, sorry, who's asking for 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.880 double what she's asking for. And I'm thinking, damn, Like 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.560 I remember when I used to work in more traditionally 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:48.080 corporate spaces and at every interview they'd be like, oh, I. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:48.760 Thought you were German. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.080 Oh I was on the phone with you and I 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.240 saw your name and I heard your voice and I 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.120 thought you were German. It's like, oh are you? And 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.720 it kept coming up and I'm like, oh, it wasn't 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.720 giving African on paper on the phone, and you got 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.320 confus use. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.880 I was like, damn, like I really just sweped in. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.880 I didn't even know there was privilege in having a 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.280 name like Lilian, Lilian a Hanken, because like a Hanken, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.120 I guess, isn't screaming African. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.760 They're kind of like, oh, there's a k in there. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.360 Maybe it's a European ish And so I was like, whoa. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.360 That was like a little silent privilege I was getting. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.840 I didn't even clock it. But then, as you know, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.680 like even if we talk about this creative industry that 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.960 we're in, it's like, if I was going to be 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.280 ostracized from the job, it's not the things that I 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:28.880 can put on and take off, do you know what 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.640 I mean, It's. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.479 Like the permanent things that we can't change. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.920 So I'm like tooth Gym's gotta stay on, you know, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.640 being outlandish. It's like we're just adding to it becauseish, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.160 if I wasn't gonna be here, it's for other reasons. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.640 But you said something really apt at our Specsaveror's live 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:53.719 show about how like, are we perpetuating beauty standards by 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.400 acknowledging that there are beauty standards? And similarly, are we 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:02.440 perpetuating professionalism by you know, getting that cool job and 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.800 recognizing that we've got to change ourselves to get said job, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.120 or like I'm going to hide my tattoos and put 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.440 them back on. And it's obviously two prongs like one, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.560 don't be a dummy, like if you know what's required 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.200 to get the job, and you can like Vanessa system 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:15.640 a little bit for system. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:16.919 But then also. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.440 What is best case scenario and do you have the 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.640 bandwidth to work towards that in your own small way. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:29.120 So some would say we are game changers, tastemakers. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.680 I think everyone would say, be crazier. We need to 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:32.880 be crazy. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.280 We need to do some crazy things to make the 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.000 average tooths gym wearing. Yeah, women feels safe and secure. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.200 Yeah, we got to raise the bar and we'll do 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.000 it a half time time again, do it? 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.400 What can I do that's giving something a bit crazier. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.520 Show your timmy at work like I do. Don't hide 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.559 your belly button and don't put on shoes either. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.000 He will hate her. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.000 I was putting my ship, was putting my feet up the. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.440 Company so far, I was wondering. I was like, and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:03.240 that is pushing the. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:09.480 Needle forward when it comes to equality and diversity. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.039 Oh my god, Flex and frooms they're the best. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.360 Last week or the week before, sometime in February, we 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.280 had a live show with Specsavers. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:19.720 Shout out. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.520 I said it before, I said again, thank you for 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.880 spending your marketing budget on us. It's well spent for 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.200 the least, and you will get a return sometime within 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.279 the near future that the stock has gone up. But 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.880 we talked about this idea of wasting our time or 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.320 money on fashion, and then I've been thinking about the 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.159 concept broadly since would I rather waste my time or 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:42.880 money generally? And I feel like I have I'm really 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.040 good at wasting my money. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:44.440 Right. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.640 It's one of those things where you know, grow up 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.760 in poverty, single parent, household, mums a clean or whatever. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.159 Then you got a bit of money and I'm like, 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.720 who cares, I never had it. Let's just spend it. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.479 Spend it on me, spend it on you, spend it 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.719 on stuff. I don't have value the value of stuff. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.400 And then I grow up, I start running businesses and 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.320 paying something like okay, there's a value here. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.200 I understand it. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.440 Now the dial is shifted and I'm like, okay, I 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.760 need to waste my time some more. I don't think 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.680 I'm really good at wasting my time properly. I used 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.600 to find myself in conversations and being really aware of 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.200 like where else I could be, and like this is 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.080 taking a really long time. What do they want? What 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.880 are we getting to? Which's not a sexy place to be. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.240 I feel like something about knowing how to waste time well, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.920 feels like the opposite of desperation. If you're someone who's 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.400 really like I'm wasting him to time? 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.800 What are we doing? There's a desperate energy about that. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.720 It's like, let it go. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.960 Where are you trying to go? Why can't it just 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.920 be chill and fine right here? 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.400 Totally chasing the dragon? 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.360 Yeah, and I just think, but I think this week 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.480 I overcorrected because we're moving out of our commercial office 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.360 space and moving operations to Melbourne. It's phase one of 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.720 my phase three project of trying to move to Melbourne. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.960 Personally, absolutely absolutely, Oh my god. Just imagine if you're 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.760 in Melbourne, you would bring a certain glamorous esocence that 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.200 the city is desperate for. Okay, yes, no. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.400 More nonderground grassroots. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.720 No more Berlin core. Okay, we need some color. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.280 Bring in some premium corporate. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.520 It's like brains during Prideways. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.640 I'm trying to bring to Melbourne a sense of Hm, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.720 how do you say? 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:30.960 This was signed off? 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.480 But I was like, Okay, I'm learning how to waste 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.520 less of my money, right, and so we have to 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.400 we painted the office or colorful and we've got to 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:41.160 paint it back white. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.600 And I was like, I'll do it myself. I just 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.840 wondering myself, you know. So tell me why we go 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.280 to Bunnings. I'm spending like five dollars worth of paint 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.319 and paint tools the. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.560 C I'm spending a full day of work painting an 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.040 office we got we got saliha stuff. Member spending a 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.240 full day painting first to get to the end of 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.400 the day and not be done. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:04.920 So what are we doing? 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.080 I can't get it together, So I'm in progress. My 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.720 life is a whip at the moment. What's going on? 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.160 But I'm making changes in some way. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.000 Oh my god, my life is a whip. Yeah, that's 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.000 a good tattoo. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.439 It's giving corporate. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.000 Flex and we hear at the Flex and froom show 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.960 and I will say, we are law abiding citizens. Have 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:31.840 you ever been arrested? 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:33.080 Reck? 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.280 Can? I have for sure for sure? 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.920 Never never been strip searched, which, if anything needs to 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.760 be abolished, it's a strip search, thank you. No jokes 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.400 or dramas there never. Oh. I have been pulled over 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.520 once or twice, but that's not the moral of a story. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.319 I was driving down King Street yesterday, minding my own business, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.400 going to swap to go pick up some clothes, and 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.480 I noticed it was quite a every police presence on 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.520 this fine day, and I thought I would notice that 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.280 the only time I see police in my neighborhood is 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.320 on a Saturday night. And you know why little exchange 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.720 is happening in cars, right, I see it every Saturday. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.640 From driving around. You see the cops doing. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.200 A little busts, the undercover. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.000 But in terms of like the day to day police 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.959 presence on the roads, I don't really travel on the 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.480 roads where I see them that often. However, doming on 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.440 King Street, I feel a police car next to me. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.880 It's almost like cosmic. I just knew they were there, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.760 and I turned and I just thought, I'm going to 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.400 look at them and see if they're looking at me. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.640 Setting dominant. I get it. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.720 Literally, this thing that I like to do when I 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.840 see police people. I like to look at them in 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.680 the eye because I know I'm not doing anything wrong, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.040 but I want to invite I want to invite them 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.400 to like test me. So I look over like this 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:54.360 and I go. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.840 You smile at the cars. I smiled at the cop. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.120 And the guy looks at me like this, not a 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.640 hint of emotion on that man's face. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:08.680 That one came out of a lab. That's the robot. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.920 Sociopaths allowed to be police people. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.040 How did we get here? 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.800 I'm sorry, but I have an inviting smile. I'm a 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.920 citizen with no of rests under the belt. Yeah, I'm 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:26.280 a non threatening energy on my face. I gave him 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.199 the nicest smile and he just looked at me, dead 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.760 dead in the eyes. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:31.600 For how long? 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.080 I thought, you're making me want to commit a crime? 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:33.600 Three to five? 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:35.680 You know what I did? 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:35.960 Yeah? 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:37.120 You know what I did? 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:37.200 Did you? 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.560 We were side by side of the lights and there 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.240 was a parked car up top, so someone was gonna 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:46.640 have to merge. No, it's his own mind, you but 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:53.400 I kept under You would have accelerated and then slowed down, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.920 sloped down, and then when even Yeah, anyway, I'm not 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.360 gonna I don't want to incite the police. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.720 But he knows to the buses, bloody Oh, he's well aware. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.280 If you're a policeman, just smile. Okay, let's just bring 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.800 the vibes up the community. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.200 Yeah, moroun needs to come way up because unfortunately the 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.520 presence of your community is bringing the vibe down and 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.920 it's a big burden to carry on your own. To 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.520 do us a service, do yourself a service, give us 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.040 a smiler. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:29.760 M This is. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.640 Sitting, This is flex and frooms on cater. The Flexing 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.320 Froom show wouldn't be the Flexing Froom Show if we 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.040 didn't bring some of our flavor and essence to the show. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:41.160 I was, where is this going? 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.200 Honestly, I don't know half the time. And that is 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.560 that we love to cross promote. Oh yeah, for sure, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.240 genius marketers. Yeah, I studied advertising. You grew up in 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.040 the club scene. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:59.880 Having you attended you did you wear a door out 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.480 to a club? That is? 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.880 That is where we connect on this. You're sick anyway, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.880 I get it. Tertially educated queen. Let me know what 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:10.440 else we did? 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:17.240 So like the three periods, your lips is like you know, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.520 when something's loading, it's like ding ding ne ding anyway. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.360 Across marketing, decision would be to tell you about my 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.160 live show Besties with Lewis Hansen. He is a Melbourne comedian, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.000 content creator, writer, one of our own, one of our 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.760 brethren and we have put a live show together to 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.640 be doing in Melbourne as part of the Melbourne Comedy Festival. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.199 And I wanted to bring it on the show to say, hey, guys, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.040 buy tickets too late. Guess what twelve hours that even. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.680 Yesterday when you're like, oh my god, it's selling, I 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.120 was like, someone out that quickly, twelve hours sold out. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.960 People can't say that. People can't say that. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.439 I got my manager on the phone. Should we move 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.079 it over to were gon. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.480 Need to move it to the stadium? They said, we're 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:05.720 gonna happen. Let's call me Salva. Let's take No. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.640 They're like, well do you want to do like the 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.880 Capital Theater And I said, babe, respectfully, I turn it 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.719 down because I thought. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.480 No, let's take the win that you have the win exactly. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:18.200 I don't want to go back to. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.880 The drawing war. Give that gold for bron yeah. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.560 Exactly, we would know we've got it. Not just kidding, 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.560 just kidding. Podcast award, no, no bronze in front of it. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.560 So yeah, I will say if you bought tickets, I 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.640 was very insistent on sorry that if you were a 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.120 day oner, get the ticket, okay, And I said it 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.120 time and time again. I've got my friends blowing up 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:40.400 my phone. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:41.720 I do not disturb for that one. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.880 I said, guys, buy the ticket. Okay, I'm not going 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.520 to give you freebies. Some of the people don't realize 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.360 with shows and music shows, and I'm realizing this now 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.120 as a punter. Pay for the ticket. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.560 It's a bit of fun. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.400 You're paying your friend. Also, I've got I've got overheads 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:56.880 to pay for them. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:01.880 Okay, overhead, yeah, pay for the ticket. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.960 But also if you want to do something getting quick, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.240 there's something I don't know if it's like just the 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.520 just a young person thing or an Australian thing, but 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.400 there's this weird incompatible energy of being excited for something 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.000 and then not. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:15.760 I don't want to say pull in the trigger. What 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:16.760 is another term here? 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.160 We can do that. There's no guns in a shay Okay, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.120 there's no content Australia. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:21.920 Do you know what I'm saying? 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.600 Like everyone's like, oh, I'm so excited. If it said so, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.880 then why are you on the Instagram story doing Hey? 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.320 Anyone telling you tickets? Were you really excited? Do you 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.200 not have a calendar? 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:30.800 Hurry up? 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.720 Maybe payday wasn't on that day? I get it. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:39.440 I'll do payment plans next time after pay for easy payments. Anyway, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.360 if you've got tickets and you're listening to the podcast, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.240 hit me up. I'm going to organize a guest list 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.080 for my favorite club afterwards, so I'll let you know 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.120 the details. Just want to say a big thank you 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.800 supporting me. I got some high school best friends, didn't 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.000 quite get around to it, and now they're in my DMS. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:54.320 You know who you are. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.320 Flex and Firms, Flex. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.000 And Frames cater never miss a beat, FLEXI. I want 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.320 to talk about money. Seems to be recurring theme on 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.600 the show is a crass they talk about. 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:04.320 I don't know. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.960 We're pushing the dial, as we said earlier, pushing the 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.120 dial on a lot of things. Sometimesime we push the dollar. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.680 I don't know if we're going backwards or forwards. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.000 I don't think it matters. It's all about momentum. Life 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.200 is sicklefl anyway, We're always going backwards and forwards. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.800 That's true quantum vibes. I was invited to a sit 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.760 down dinner recently for a birthday all paid for. Oh yeah, okay, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.160 and I thought, does that mean I have to bring 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:29.880 a birthday present? 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:31.640 What do you reckon? 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.960 Well, this is my qualm. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:37.880 Has it happened? 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.160 Oh no, it's coming out. It's it's in April, and 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:43.800 like we've got a lot, a lot of time to pray. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.640 Like it's going to be a really nice party. And 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.920 the person whose party it is is really rich, Like 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.320 they have a lot of money and they've got amazing tastes, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:54.240 like they've got all this, and like I could never 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.200 even think of a gift to get them, and I'm 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.560 going to their party and I'm like, I am in 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.320 gift paralysis. I don't know what to get you that 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.280 you don't already have that is within my means and 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.600 our friendship level. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.119 You know, I love this so much. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.840 Like they're not one of my close close friends, but 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:18.119 I'm I made the carton and I wouldn't say, you know, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.800 as we know, fougal friends stand up. I think I'm 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.880 quite generous when it comes to my immediate friends, you know, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.359 three for besties, but yeah, when it comes to bigger 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.960 group presidents and stuff, I find it hard. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.040 It is quite difficult. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.280 And we have this conversation a lot because, as we've 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.520 just discussed, I'm very flippant with my money and we 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.479 need to figure that out a little bit. So in 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:47.199 this instance, if I'm going to like an acquaintance or 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.080 like a party friend's party, I wouldn't come empty handed, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:53.919 like I would just like bring a bottle or something 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.040 I don't know, because for the optics it kind of 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:00.320 looks good. I can imagine in this instance, whenever I've 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.280 paid for my like a full birthday affair with no expectation, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.919 it's because I didn't want someone else's funds to limit 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.120 my birthday experience. Right I'm hosting the birthday I want 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.119 to host, and I'm in finding people I want to invite. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.159 It's not a burden for you to show up and 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.600 have to match that. What I will say, though, is 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.679 if you can't match in value, then you you increase 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:23.120 the sentimentality. You know, you write something, you make something 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.040 like let's say you wrote her really thoughtful letter, or 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.800 you like got her like a cute little I don't know, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.320 like a knickknack, like you got her like a cute 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.119 little tier cards and like a little Crystal wrote her 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:33.280 a lot of be like this is so nice. We're 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.040