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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: But the news is fit to print in the entertainment

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Speaker 2: world from The Daily Oz. M Gillespie, Hello, Hello, talking

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Speaker 2: about one of my favorite cases today, the Menendez brothers.

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Speaker 2: They're back in the news cycle. Last year, US authorities announced,

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Speaker 2: which we discussed, these plans to review new evidence in

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Speaker 2: this case of the convicted murderers. There was that drama

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Speaker 2: series last year that shot to the top of Netflix's

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Speaker 2: most watch charts all around the world that told their story,

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Speaker 2: the story of Lyle and Eric Menndez, who were handled

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Speaker 2: life sentences in nineteen ninety six. They were found guilty

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Speaker 2: of killing their parents brutally with a shotgun in their

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Speaker 2: La mansion. Captured global attention at the time and has

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Speaker 2: been really kind of reinvigorated by this Netflix series.

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Speaker 1: The new evidence, which was that they say they were

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Speaker 1: molested by their father.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So the argument is that the child abuse argument,

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Speaker 2: that this was a kind of murdering self defense, that

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Speaker 2: that argument was not considered adequately at the time of

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Speaker 2: the original trials, and that you know, there is there

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Speaker 2: are new letters that have come to like detailing the

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Speaker 2: abuse and now that you're given the way that we

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Speaker 2: talk about and treat abuse and victim survivors of child

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Speaker 2: abuse nowadays, that they kind of deserve a retrial or

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Speaker 2: that things deserve to be reconsidered. But there's this new

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Speaker 2: documentary that's come to stand this week where we actually

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Speaker 2: hear from Eric and Lyle from prison, so that these

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Speaker 2: interviews recorded over the phones. We don't see them, but

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Speaker 2: it's the kind of first comprehensive interview that we've heard

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Speaker 2: from them since this Netflix show came out. They're now

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Speaker 2: aged in their fifties. Of course they're fifties. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: both in their fifties. Well, they were eighteen and twenty

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Speaker 2: one at the times of the murders, so they've spent

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Speaker 2: more than half their life in prison. The Netflix show

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Speaker 2: really kind of paints this picture of two very spoiled

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Speaker 2: brats who had this incredibly privileged upbringing in Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 2: you know, wanted nothing, had all of the luxuries and

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Speaker 2: decadence of life given to them. But now, you know,

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Speaker 2: after thirty six years in jail, it really seems that

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Speaker 2: they have transformed as people. I'm not sure how legitimate

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Speaker 2: that is, obviously. The Netflix show kind of paints these

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Speaker 2: very I guess these comprehensive liars, these compulsive kind of liars.

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Speaker 2: But they've reflected, they've grown up, they've got new perspectives.

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Speaker 2: Eric in particular seems to be really zen and he's

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Speaker 2: come to this place of being really humble. He describes

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Speaker 2: growing up in that affluent home. He called himself a

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Speaker 2: spoiled brat. He's a little bit of what he had

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 1: I had to keep in security issues and tried to

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Speaker 1: hide those issues, and I was taught that you do

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Speaker 1: it through the best clothes or the best car or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Of those things that we now know is completely dysfunctional

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Speaker 1: and frankly just a sign of the internal pain. I

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Speaker 1: look back and I'm so ashamed it embarrassed about even

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Speaker 1: the little things that I did in life. But beginning

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Speaker 1: to like myself, proud of myself, and find it okay

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Speaker 1: to like myself.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was really interesting. In prison, they've been

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Speaker 2: really involved in these kind of community rehabilitation style programs.

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Speaker 2: They work with other prisoners who are victims of abuse

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Speaker 2: that they work on a suicide prevention program, They work

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Speaker 2: in hospice care. So they've been certainly keeping very busy.

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Speaker 2: But detectives who were on the case kind of argue

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Speaker 2: that all of that is just about part of the action,

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Speaker 2: part of the act. It's an image kind of rehab,

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Speaker 2: sort of reputational transformation to convince a judge basically that

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Speaker 2: they should get out. I was really curious about whether

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Speaker 2: or not they had seen the Netflix show, because of course,

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Speaker 2: it's the reason we're now talking about them, It's the

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Speaker 2: reason this new evidence has come to light. Here is

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Speaker 2: what Lyle had to say on the Netflix show in

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Speaker 2: this standoco.

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Speaker 3: It really did actually move a lot of people to

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Speaker 3: understand the child trauma that that Eric and I suffer

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Speaker 3: it and particular the horrific stuff that Eric sep I feel.

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Speaker 3: In the end, a lot of people were educated about

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Speaker 3: what can happen, even enriched in affluent homes, behind walls

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Speaker 3: and behind hedges, and so I think they get opened

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Speaker 3: a lot of people's eyes, and that's always a good thing.

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Speaker 2: What's he's sharing the cell with a beat boxer, that

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Speaker 2: would be that would be the worst.

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Speaker 3: That would be, that'd be hard time you share a

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Speaker 3: cell with a beat boxer and he sounds middle age.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, but it is amazing.

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Speaker 3: This is streaming on stan It's.

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Speaker 2: Streaming on Stan But it's all kind of culminating in

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Speaker 2: We've got a few key dates coming up in terms

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Speaker 2: of what happens with this case. There is a hearing

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Speaker 2: in mid April, and there is a parole Board decision

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Speaker 2: to be handed down in June. So there are a

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Speaker 2: couple of things that could happen. The Parole Board could

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Speaker 2: decide that they have, you know, been rehabilitated, that they're

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Speaker 2: no longer a danger to society and they should be released.

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Speaker 2: That hearing in April could re sentence them from downgrading

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Speaker 2: their charges from murder to manslaughter. That could see them

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Speaker 2: immediately immediately released or their sentences reduced. Or there is

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Speaker 2: also the chance that that hearing in April will recommend

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Speaker 2: a new trial, in which case they would have to

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Speaker 2: go through the whole process again, and so would we.

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Speaker 2: They could be found not guilty all of the above.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot that lies ahead and the decision

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Speaker 2: is really murky. Everyone seems pretty split fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: on what could happen, but we won't really know anything

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Speaker 2: until June ish. But plenty to come in this story.

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Speaker 3: No spoiler alerts, M No spoiler alert. I want to

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Speaker 3: know what happens to her as.

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Speaker 1: The parents have died.

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Speaker 2: Amanda, come on, you can catch the documentary on Stan

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Speaker 2: Good on you.

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Speaker 3: M Gillespie chekaat at the Daily Os