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Speaker 2: Finally, hey guys, and welcome back to the Rise and

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Speaker 2: Conquered Podcast. Today, I have a special guest for you

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Speaker 2: So Lauren lives with her traveling partner, Jack, which is

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Speaker 3: Let's get into the show, Lauren, Welcome to the Rise

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Speaker 3: and Conker Podcast. I am so excited you're in my house.

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for having me here. I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: Guys, it's my other stage name.

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Speaker 1: get the proportions right. But so the whole thing was

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00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,439
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my god, this couple is just

448
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: like traveling the world.

449
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: Who are they?

450
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: How can they afford this? Like who's with them to

451
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: take the photos? How do they get these nice photos?

452
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: So many questions, Yeah, and so like nowadays, nobody asked

453
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: that because everybody knows because everybody's like so many people

454
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: are doing it now, But that was, like I guess

455
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: the mystery and like the kind of spark about us

456
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: was that we were this couple traveling and whenever we

457
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: get to a location, we would just try and get

458
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: the most like out there photo. We'd be like, let's

459
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: get the most like coolest photo that no one's done before.

460
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 4: Let's make it like the most epic.

461
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: So we go back to a location multiple times to

462
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: try and perfect it, like get the perfect light. Okay,

463
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: sunrise wasn't good, Let's go back for sunset. And so

464
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: we put a lot, a lot of effort, and like

465
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: we weren't getting paid each time we post, like it

466
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: was only when we picked up a job here and there.

467
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Speaker 1: But between that, what actually like made it for us

468
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: was just getting these epic photos that then people would

469
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 1: want to repost or reshare.

470
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: So we started just picking up so much momentum.

471
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Speaker 1: Through some of our photos in these like countries, Like

472
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Speaker 1: I remember around the time went to Morocco. That's when like,

473
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 1: especially my Instagram was just booming, like people were like, wow,

474
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: look at this girls, and you get so many more

475
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: comments back then and people were just like whoa, how

476
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Speaker 1: do you get there.

477
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Speaker 4: How do you take these photos?

478
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Speaker 5: Like?

479
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Speaker 4: What are you using? It was all a mystery.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually funny you say that, because like when

481
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Speaker 2: I look at the insights of my accounts out my accounts. Sorry, literally,

482
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: the photos that have done the best, let's say, in

483
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: the last year, the top like you know, six or whatever,

484
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: always include like lots.

485
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Speaker 5: Of me and Tim.

486
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

487
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: People love seeing two people together, don't they like?

488
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: And I think also when you think about it, like

489
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: social media, like real humans people like you know, connection

490
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing.

491
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: So it's not like it makes sense.

492
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah we noticed that as well, that like posting

493
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: to do better when we're both in it, so be like, oh,

494
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: let's get more photos together.

495
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: And it's so funny, said the tripod things you'll see

496
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Speaker 2: in this cupboard.

497
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Speaker 3: I literally we have a tripod, you know, and whitlam

498
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: we go places, I bring my tripod.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, and it's also really nice though, to

500
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Speaker 2: have that memory.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly together. So yeah, we're the ogs of using

502
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Speaker 4: a tripod.

503
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Speaker 3: I love it.

504
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Speaker 1: So but now it's so common that nobody even like

505
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Speaker 1: thinks anything.

506
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: No one needs to ask that question.

507
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: They're like, I really.

508
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Speaker 2: Love what you said about you know, you would go

509
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: back to the location multiple times and get this, you know,

510
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: put in the effort, because I think some people think

511
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: overnight success.

512
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, their travel bloggers, they just go somewhere.

513
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: They A lot of misconception was, oh, they're just rich,

514
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: they just have all this money. So people used to say,

515
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: especially to my partner, like oh, you're just a trust

516
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: fun baby, and he's like, are you serious, Like if

517
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: you see where I came from, or like, yeah, like

518
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: how much money I had? Like no, I'm not a

519
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: trust fund kid, but it's nice, it's fluttering.

520
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: Thank you.

521
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 5: Yes.

522
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: But also a huge thing is what people don't realize,

523
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you'll kind of chat about this, is like,

524
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: even though you know you're going somewhere and you're getting

525
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: these most magical, you know photos and stuff like that, like, yeah,

526
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: they don't see you, you know, waking up at sunrise

527
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: getting that post.

528
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Speaker 3: And I think you can kind of attest this.

529
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Speaker 2: And I've been on holidays where I'm like, you know,

530
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Speaker 2: getting the shot, and it can be almost like you're

531
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Speaker 2: not living in the moment, you're a bit.

532
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Speaker 3: Strand you're getting the you know.

533
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Speaker 1: That's one thing I like to always remind people that, like, yeah,

534
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: you're not always one present because you're focus when you're there.

535
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: It's just about the photos. You'll get to a location

536
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, what is the best photo?

537
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 4: How can we get this?

538
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: So your whole day is focused around getting photos because

539
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Speaker 1: that's what you're And like for me at the beginning especially,

540
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: I had such a strong passion for it that I

541
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't care about sacrificing other things like going

542
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: out for meals and sleeping in and like doing what

543
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: we want to do just for fundling on the beach

544
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: all day. Like for me, I was so passionate about

545
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: getting those photos. I loved it, so I was okay

546
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: to sacrifice and put in the endless hours. And it's

547
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: like obviously paid off now to be a career.

548
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: And yes, where you can you know take more time?

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And do you guys do that like when you're

550
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Speaker 2: traveling or going on a holiday. Obviously, you know, when

551
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: it's a paid job, you have to do the deliverables you.

552
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Speaker 5: Have to do.

553
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Speaker 2: But do you sometimes go out I'm like, you know,

554
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Speaker 2: not doing any content and we're just relaxing or we.

555
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: Do sometimes we struggle. That's one of the things that

556
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: we struggle with is the balance of that because it's

557
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: like if you're sitting there and then like everything's beautiful,

558
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: you're just like.

559
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Speaker 4: Well, should we take a photo? Like it's like really

560
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 4: hard not to.

561
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: You're like.

562
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Speaker 4: You're like my spirit animals.

563
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Speaker 3: I'm like, why wouldn't we just take better? And he's beautiful?

564
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 3: Can't we just enjoy it? Yeah?

565
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm more like that than Jack. He's sometimes

566
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: like no, I can't be bothered.

567
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: And this wants to like lay out.

568
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, Like one thing I was recently saying this

569
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Speaker 1: to somebody, I'm like, I don't remember the last time

570
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: I completely had a holiday, So completely have a holiday

571
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: to me is like no phone, like cause like and

572
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Speaker 1: it's hard to even do that because you need to

573
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Speaker 1: look up something. Like We've tried to even like suggest

574
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Speaker 1: that and then I'm like, oh, let me just look

575
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Speaker 1: this up.

576
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Speaker 4: Like we'll go out for dinner like no phones, and

577
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 4: then main.

578
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: Conversation, we're like talking about something, should we just should

579
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: we just google it?

580
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: Okay?

581
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: Do that? Or like I need a calculator or something,

582
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: and I'm like I need.

583
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Speaker 4: To get the phone out.

584
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Speaker 1: So we've like I've talked about being like, for me

585
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Speaker 1: to have a full holiday would be no phone, because

586
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: on my phone is work, it's got social media, it's

587
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: got emails, it's got everything that's like people pinging up

588
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: like manager on WhatsApp, Like it's it's non stop pinging

589
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: up at you've about reminding you about something that's work oritence, so.

590
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: You can't completely switch off.

591
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: But I even feel like, like, if you go on a holiday,

592
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere beautiful. Even if I was like, okay,

593
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: no phone, I would still be like, oh.

594
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 4: I want to get the camera out.

595
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: It's so pretty, like I want to take a photo

596
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: because I'm still passionate about that, but I plan to

597
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: one time do it just like completely turn off emails.

598
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: Like well, it's funny.

599
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: It's really funny to say that because I'm very much

600
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: the same in regards to everything you're saying with social media,

601
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: and it is.

602
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I live through.

603
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I can be like you like, I'm like, just take

604
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: the photo and then I can almost relax.

605
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can always get into it.

606
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Speaker 2: But it's really funny you're saying that because this weekend

607
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: me and Tim are going to ever retreat.

608
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Speaker 3: It's actually close by.

609
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you about it after the podcast, and they

610
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 2: literally tell you like you can't bring your phone, you

611
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: can't bring anything, and it's just two nights.

612
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 3: But I'm like, wow, like.

613
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Speaker 2: I it's the first time that I'm going to do that.

614
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: So it's going to be really interesting to see how

615
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: it feels, because, like you said, like I very much,

616
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Speaker 2: even if I'm not working.

617
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Speaker 3: Thinking about it, Yeah, you're still switched on.

618
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like even like most people when they go

620
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: on a holiday, that's when they want to like take

621
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Speaker 1: photos and share stories.

622
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 4: But to us, that's work.

623
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: Like as much as it's like every day like part

624
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: of our everyday life, it still is like part of

625
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: our job.

626
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 4: So if you try and go somewhere.

627
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Speaker 1: And not take a story, like you're like, oh, I

628
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: just want to get my phend out to take a

629
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: quick story, and then you're like, no, one need to

630
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: switch off. I feel like for me to do it,

631
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I could do it and feel like

632
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm having a holiday and bring a camera and everything.

633
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: But maybe if like I was out of service, so

634
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: like you can't if you were like saying a mountain

635
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: or some destination where there's no internet service, that would

636
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: force you, yeah, to not be able to check your

637
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: emails or check your social media and just like switch off.

638
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: So the last time I kind of probably did that

639
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: was when I climbed out Kenny, as I said before,

640
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: and I had no service for like four or five days,

641
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: and it was actually like really good time to like

642
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: really speak to myself because I didn't go with anyone

643
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew nobody on the trip. There was

644
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: just three other guests that were like hiking with me

645
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: that would just completely the randoms and then the porters

646
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: and guides, and I actually had time to really find

647
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: clarity in some of the things I was like going

648
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: through or thinking about, or decisions in life that I

649
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: was making. So I definitely think that if anyone's like

650
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: struggling trying to find clarity, sometimes like taking yourself out

651
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: of your comfort zone on like a bit of an

652
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: adventure or something like that where you're switched off can

653
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: give you the chance to really without any distractions, think

654
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: about what you want.

655
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, even speaking of that, like do you like, what

656
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: do you do for self care in regards to do

657
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: you meditate, do you journal? Do you have any rituals

658
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: that you do when maybe you know you're feeling stressed

659
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: or anxious or something like that.

660
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, exercise, like working out is

661
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: a huge part of my mental health. It's a good

662
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: chance for me to like turn off focus. It makes

663
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: me feel good afterwards. And I found that sometimes, especially

664
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Speaker 1: when I'm traveling or on these jobs, and I don't

665
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: get time to do any working out because it's like

666
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: getting up for sunrise. You got to get up earlier

667
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: to do your hair, you make up, make sure the

668
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: camera equipments, work out what you're wearing, get to the location,

669
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Speaker 1: so you're up super early, and then during the day

670
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: you've got other things on that are part of the

671
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: day of traveling, and then or like the job, and

672
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: then the afternoon you're editing, and then you've got this

673
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: dinner and the day's gone and you're so exhausted there's

674
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: no time to work out. And that's when I start

675
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: to really notice myself. I like I'll feel burnt out,

676
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll start to feel down and like exhausted. I'll be

677
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: like just sleepy, not motivated.

678
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: So what sort of exercise do you like doing.

679
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I love like hit classes, So at the moment, I'm

680
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: really into boxing, I've been going to this boxing class

681
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: like once or twice a week.

682
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: Is it like eight rounds or is like.

683
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: That It's at Ko Boxing in Miami. Yeah, these girls

684
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: are on this class in the morning like certain mornings,

685
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: and I loving it.

686
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm either like a fast path like I

687
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: find yoga is not really my thing.

688
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: I haven't really feel I haven't really like people like,

689
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: oh I never used to. Once something happens, you really

690
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: feel it. I haven't had that that click yet.

691
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

692
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: But I do like.

693
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Pilates, but I don't ever really get to do it.

694
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: But I generally like a bit more like high intensity

695
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of workout if I go by the gym, Yeah,

696
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: like I want to sweat.

697
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: I want to feel it after. I want to walk

698
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: out and be like.

699
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Oh ouch, I'm sweating or I'm hurting or I'm exhausted.

700
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that.

701
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: And I always feel like really like energetic can pumped

702
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: up after.

703
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: You get a bit of a high from it. Yeah,

704
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: I said the indorphins going. I'm literally one hundred percent like.

705
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: I've got to really lack sweat and like really push

706
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: and even if it's like a thirty minute lag workout,

707
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: like not long or anything. Ye, but yeah, really get

708
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: into it and then then you're like, oh, it's like

709
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: this masculine energy of like conquering.

710
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting it done.

711
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: I feel you, that's what That's what makes me feel

712
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: really good.

713
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: And then other than that, like if I'm feeling down

714
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: on some kind of stuff, care I think that it's

715
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: especially when I'm in Bali, I will go to the

716
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: spa and have like a massage or a manicure, pedicure

717
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: or something relaxing, or even just laying on the beach.

718
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: I think sometimes just like going for a.

719
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Walk, laying on the beach, being outside fresh air, That's

720
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what feels good.

721
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: To me, being in the sun. Yeah.

722
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: But in terms, I don't journal, I don't meditate. I

723
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: have on and off like tried to, Like I only

724
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: really use meditation when I'm trying to get to sleep.

725
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: If I was going through something, so like a couple

726
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,239
Speaker 1: of years ago, I got diagnosed with PCOS and I

727
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: was really going through like a huge like problem like

728
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: dealing with it. I didn't know that I had it,

729
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: and it was sending me a little bit crazy, like

730
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: I was really.

731
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: Sort of symptoms, did you have?

732
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: My skin started getting really bad, like real bad.

733
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: And I was like bits cistic acne.

734
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was just along my chin line and

735
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never had like pimples here before.

736
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: What is going on?

737
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Like I think at the time I was twenty five,

738
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm twenty five and I have like

739
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: the worst acne of my life?

740
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: What is going on?

741
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: And like let alone that. I was also like felt

742
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: really insecure. I felt anxious. I didn't like being in

743
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: social situations. I just wasn't feeling myself Like I was

744
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: like a bit like I wasn't nice, Like I would

745
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: take it out on Jack as well, and I'm like,

746
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel like this and just

747
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: get upset.

748
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: No, I did not feel myself and I didn't know

749
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: what it was.

750
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: Like, how did you find out it was pcos I how.

751
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: Did I figure out?

752
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: I was obviously doing like a lot of Google searching

753
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out, like I wasn't getting my

754
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: period either, Okay, so that was.

755
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: Kind of another thing.

756
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: And I'd gone off the pill like six months or

757
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: so before that, true, So I kept doing When they're

758
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: like pimple started popping up, I blamed it on the pill.

759
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's my body readjusting from coming

760
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: off the pill. But I basically went off the pill

761
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: and put the copper id in straight away so that

762
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get tempted to go back on the pill.

763
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: So I was like I knew that, like i'll go

764
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: with the pill, my slicking might break out, so I'll

765
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: probably just start taking it again because I'm like, oh,

766
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this, because that's what's

767
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: always happens. Like you go off the pill, you get

768
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: a pimple, and you're like, oh, no, I like being

769
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: on the pill.

770
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: I have no pimples ever.

771
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: And then I was like, you know what, No, I

772
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: need to like go full natural. I don't want to

773
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: be like I started looking into the whole artificial hormones

774
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, I don't know about this can't

775
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: be good for me. So that was like the little

776
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: health path I was going down. So I did the

777
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: copper ied and then the skin just got progressively worse

778
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: and worse and worse.

779
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: And then it was all the.

780
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: Other side effects as well of just like feeling really

781
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: bad not getting my period, like everything was and when

782
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: you have the cop id, you should get your period.

783
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: And like really get your period. That's like the whole

784
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: way of how the contraceptive works. Yeah, So then I

785
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: think I started seeing a natural path. I think my

786
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: friend was like, oh, she specializes in women's health. You

787
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: should have a chat to her. And so I had

788
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: a consultation with her, and literally as soon as I

789
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: got onto the camera and like well on skype chatting,

790
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I think you've got pcos. She's like,

791
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm like ninety nine percent sure you've got it. And

792
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? So I started like

793
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: looking it up and I was like, oh, like a

794
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: lot of this makes sense. And then she talk to

795
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: me about like my and certain things, and she was like,

796
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: are you willing to try not.

797
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: Being vegan anymore?

798
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: So I've been vegan for like a year or so

799
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: vegetarian for years, and she's like, would you be interested

800
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: in like just testing out maybe including some fish and

801
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: eggs in your diet.

802
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 4: And I was like, look at the moment, I'm kind

803
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: of like I'd do anything to try and figure this out.

804
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: So I went pescatarian and then I did the test

805
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: as well to like figure it out.

806
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: So I went see a gynocologist.

807
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: And had blood tests done and everything was like yep,

808
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: you've got it. Like the doctor did like an internal

809
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: scan was like yep, you've got pcos.

810
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: And he said to me, so we can prescribe you the.

811
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Pill and met Foreman which is for diabetes, and that

812
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: these are this is the solution and it will basically

813
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: just mask your problems.

814
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, not doing that.

815
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: So then I just went on this path of trying

816
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: out like intimatet fasting, eating fish and eggs, hit workouts, yeah,

817
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: like things like that. And then over time, like it

818
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: just started to resolve more. I started like getting my

819
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: period more often. Still not like but over time it's

820
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: been like getting better and I know what like trying

821
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: to have less sugar, lower carb things like that. And

822
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: that was like two years ago and definitely over these

823
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: last two years like way better. I still know that

824
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: like certain time, like because I might not get my

825
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: period for every like soor of this team.

826
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: I but no, we do a lot of.

827
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: So you should just openly talking about it whatever. I don't.

828
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Over the book, every like maybe six weeks, I'll go

829
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: through a stage like I think I'm going through it

830
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of now where I start to feel a bit

831
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: down and feel a bit like oh, and that's usually

832
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: when I know that like it's probably time.

833
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

834
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: That that's so interesting because I went through something similar.

835
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: I don't have PCOS, but I have a severe hormone

836
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: and balance. And it's really interesting what you said because

837
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: I remember for a long time just being so confused

838
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: and just been and I even before that kind of

839
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: had some weight issues and so like that was another thing.

840
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I was like, I feel like I'm putting away,

841
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: putting it.

842
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: And at that time, like I was extreme dieting, so

843
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: I was like putting on weight. I was extreme dieting,

844
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: and like didn't make sense, and.

845
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: Like just feeling so confused. So that's that's super interesting

846
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: that you went through it.

847
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you're at a point now where you're

848
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: maintaining it and so are you just like very you know.

849
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: You make sure you get your exercise and.

850
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: You yeah, I'm nowhere near.

851
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: Is Like at the beginning, I was quite strict, and

852
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I tried a few different things. I even went down

853
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: like the Keto path and was like, you know, just

854
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: trying to find.

855
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: Out what worked for me, tying everything. And now I'm

856
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: in a.

857
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: Stage where I and I did feel like with the

858
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: whole nature path path, I felt like I was almost

859
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: creating more like searching for more problems than I should be.

860
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: So I feel like you have to be a little

861
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: bit wary of that, not searched too far, because sometimes

862
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: you can overcomplicate it.

863
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: And then I was just assumed, yeah, and.

864
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: Be a bit too consumed and you end up just

865
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: being like losing sight of what the initial goals were.

866
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: So for me, it was more just like finding finding

867
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: a way that like was balanced, and like now I

868
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: feel like I'm at a really good level of like

869
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: I'll know that like if I start eating like a

870
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: lot of like carbi sugary foods, I'll be like, oh

871
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: my skin's breaking out. I don't feel so good, yeah,

872
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: because my energy is lowers. It's usually they tell you

873
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: to eat low carb, low carb. Yeah, so when they

874
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: said low carb, I was like okay, and then I

875
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of that spun me down the hole, like no carb, that's.

876
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: Just too controlling. That's just that's just way too controlling.

877
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: You're my lifestyle, especially traveling, Like, yeah, I had to

878
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: find something that I.

879
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: Could joy life.

880
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I could do while I was traveling, and

881
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I think being pescatarian worked a lot. That was also

882
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: like a bit of a controversial thing people like, because

883
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: my sister's well known in the vegan community, people often

884
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: put me in the same basket, like you're a vegan,

885
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: and if I ever showed eating fish, people would get

886
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: like sensed, like why I thought you were vegan. I'm like, no,

887
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: like I'm pescatarian, And that just works a lot better

888
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: for me as well, because like if I was vegetarian

889
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: or vegan when I was traveling, a lot of times

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: I ended up just eating carbs because that's all the

891
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: options they had, So I was kind of and that

892
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: would be another thing that was stressed me out. I'd

893
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: be traveling and I'd be like, Okay, I need soy

894
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: milk and they're like, we don't have any, and that

895
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: then I'd like that would set me off to be

896
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: like why.

897
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 4: Don't they have soy milk? Like it's twenty eighteen.

898
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Or whatever year it was, and it's twenty twenty, and

899
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: so not being so restrictive with like eating and dietary

900
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: requirements definitely took away some stresses. And I think a

901
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Speaker 1: lot of the times hormones can be imbalanced by stress.

902
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Speaker 4: So it's like a little bit pretty like that. Yeah,

903
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: like little things like that.

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00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: That was probably just causing more stress than it was

905
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: really doing me any health like health benefits, which is

906
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Speaker 1: the reason why I went vegan was to be like

907
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: health benefits.

908
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So then I was like, I feel.

909
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm almost defeating the point of that by working

910
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: myself up so much.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And it is like that's something that.

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Speaker 2: I have heard quite a lot from people who have

913
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: transition because it is like especially because you know there

914
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: is a really big community and that sort of side

915
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Speaker 2: of things.

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Speaker 3: But I'm glad you like listen to.

917
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: Your body and really kind of thought, oh no, I'm

918
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: just gonna, you know, make sure I'm listening to my

919
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: by feedback and whatever.

920
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to.

921
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Everyone's different. Every situations are different. Like my situation is

922
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: different when I'm just at home, Like I can eat

923
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: way different to when I'm traveling. So like you need

924
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: to be able to have balance and not let yeah,

925
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Speaker 1: like just find what feels right for you.

926
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Speaker 4: And that's what felt right for me.

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Speaker 2: But let's get back into the episode. Well, let's switch

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Speaker 2: gears a little bit and talk about what is currently

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00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: happening right now with you know, COVID nineteen, the pandemic

962
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: and everything. Obviously, you being a travel blogger, it's a

963
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: bit of an issue here. So can you kind of

964
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: talk to us just about how you've felt with currently

965
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Speaker 2: what is happening and I guess the transition that you're

966
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: currently experiencing in your content and in your life.

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Speaker 1: Well, so when like, okay, so before it all happened

968
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: late last year, I already started having a bit of

969
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: a transition in my content and my direction of where

970
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to go, and I started posting a bit

971
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: more like lifestyle stuff and I was like more okay

972
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Speaker 1: with like.

973
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Speaker 4: I think that's when we moved into our house.

974
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Speaker 1: We started sharing content around our house and with our

975
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Speaker 1: new dog, and the response from our audience like loved

976
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Speaker 1: it and really loved that style of content that I

977
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: felt comfortable to be sharing more everyday stuff and not

978
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: just travel And I think sometimes you can get stuck

979
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: in a position where, like for us, we felt like

980
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: we had to be traveling to get photos for our

981
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: job for Instagram, and then if we weren't traveling, weren't

982
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: getting content, then we couldn't be posting, and that was

983
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: kind of a bit of a stress, and it was

984
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: also sometimes hard to incorporate. Like say a job came

985
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: up for something, I felt like I had to go

986
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: across the world to get the post for that. So

987
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of transition and bring my audience

988
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: into like my everyday life and like me as a person,

989
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: not just me and my travels still traveling, because I

990
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Speaker 1: still love it, but I wanted it to be to

991
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Speaker 1: be able to not be pressured to always be traveling forever.

992
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: And I think last year was a bit of a

993
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: year for like environmental as well. So a lot of

994
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: people were talking about like how flying and everything is

995
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: and traveling is so bad for the environment.

996
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: So I was also taking into.

997
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: Consideration that and I was like, you know what I

998
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: am like cross going across the world multiple times a year.

999
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: Like is it being more conscious? Yeah?

1000
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: Do I need to be doing this much travel or

1001
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: should I pick and choose? And I also felt like

1002
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: traveling that much you kind of lose a bit of

1003
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: sight of the experience and you're kind of really present

1004
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: or not really making the most of it.

1005
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: It's more just about the job.

1006
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go on more meaningful

1007
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: trips where I go and I actually like, go and

1008
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: do what I want to do my whole day. Isn't

1009
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Speaker 1: just about taking photos all day every day. I was like,

1010
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: I want to be able to go and do like

1011
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: a cooking class or like more actually learning about the

1012
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: culture and the place. So that was late last year.

1013
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Speaker 1: I turned down a few jobs to travel. So when

1014
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Speaker 1: COVID happened, I was actually going through a bit of

1015
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: a well before that, was going through a bit of

1016
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Speaker 1: a like, oh I want to be a bit more

1017
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Speaker 1: at home. I got my new home, my dog. I

1018
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Speaker 1: want to be in Bali a bit more. I love routine,

1019
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: and that was like a big thing for me with

1020
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: my whole health thing was I noticed that I felt

1021
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: good when I was in Bali in a routine, you know,

1022
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: working out, eating good food and not stressed out flying

1023
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: and working. So I was kind of like stepping back

1024
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: a little bit from travel to just like work on

1025
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: my health as well, my mental health and well being

1026
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: and everything. So yeah, I wasn't too concerned when COVID

1027
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: first happened. I was just like, oh, what's what's going

1028
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: on with this?

1029
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 4: Like this is a bit weird. But I didn't really

1030
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: think it was going to be what it was and

1031
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: I didn't have to we all know, nobody knew, and

1032
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Speaker 4: I didn't have.

1033
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: Too many things really booked in, Like I had a

1034
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: few plans to do some trips I want to do,

1035
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: but I, yeah, like now I'm like really over it

1036
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: in like for personal reasons work wise, Like yeah, like

1037
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: I miss traveling and I like I like if this

1038
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: wasn't going on right now, I would be in Europe

1039
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: for sure. We were just talking about that, like I

1040
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: go to Europe every summer and I love it. And

1041
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: so like for me seeing other people in Europe that

1042
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: are getting to like travel a little bit, I'm like, yeah, slowly,

1043
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: like like in Europe it's kind of opening up and

1044
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: people are traveling, and I'm like, can you.

1045
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: Not, Like I know, I've seen a couple of people

1046
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: can agree, yeah, And I'm like.

1047
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: Can you I'm not allowed to be increased with you?

1048
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: Why are you guys there?

1049
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, like personally the restrictions has affected me with

1050
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: like my whole life of being an ex But work

1051
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: wise we have because obviously we have like.

1052
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: Our presets and we have other things going for us.

1053
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm working a lot more with like some lifestyle brands

1054
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: and health and beauty.

1055
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, work.

1056
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Wise is a travel influencer. It's like, yeah, it's not ideal.

1057
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: But you're pivoting.

1058
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pivoting and it's okay.

1059
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just accepting it and just like seeing it as

1060
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: a sign to just slow down a little bit and

1061
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: transition a bit more.

1062
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 4: But personally, yeah, struggling with it.

1063
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: Of course though, because like with anything, and like we

1064
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: were saying, oh fair, like I'm the exact same in

1065
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: regards to when I, you know, think something's going to

1066
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: go a certain way and then it doesn't, and then

1067
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: not having that control and not knowing kind of like

1068
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: what I was saying, like if we got a date

1069
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: that I've said, you know, until this time or whatnot perfect.

1070
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: But okay, this is what I'll do for this time.

1071
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: You can plan.

1072
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: But the fact that we don't have a date and

1073
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 2: it's so uptone and like you said, that's your whole life,

1074
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: Like of course you're going to feel like.

1075
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: That, but I did.

1076
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: I love what you said about, you know, pivoting and

1077
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: being like, all right, well, you know, I'm going to

1078
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: do more lifestyle content and that sort of thing.

1079
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people relied so heavily

1080
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: on travel, Like a lot of people that was all

1081
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: they did, and like that was me years ago. If

1082
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: this had happened two three years ago, I would have

1083
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: been like, oh, what's happening. This is like this is bad,

1084
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: and I would have probably really like panicked about it. Yeah,

1085
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: and I know some people around me that really panicked

1086
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: about it. But I'm I'm definitely thankful, and I think

1087
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: it's like a huge reminder to people to.

1088
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: Not rely too heavily on.

1089
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: One particular industry, Like it's you need to be able

1090
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: to transition through or like pivot or I don't know,

1091
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: just like make do in these.

1092
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: Situations flexible like yeah, yeah, And you were just talking

1093
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: about your presets.

1094
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: So I personally love presets.

1095
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 5: I have my own precepts.

1096
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm obsessed just in the sheer fact with

1097
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: being you know, so you know, having a page and

1098
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: then having a certain look and in your look. I

1099
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: just think it's so valuable, especially if you are a

1100
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: business or you're a personal brand and that sort of thing.

1101
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: And so you guys have a presets together.

1102
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, me and my partner.

1103
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you guys, I feel like you guys

1104
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: like the og yeah, because you had them on all

1105
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: your beautiful travel phones.

1106
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: You talk to us about how about how art? Yeah.

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00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: So one of our biggest questions was always like, oh,

1108
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: how do you guys get your pictures to look a

1109
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: certain way? Like I want my feed to look like yours.

1110
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: And we started hearing of like a few people like

1111
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: selling them on like other platforms or something, and we

1112
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: were always liken Like Jack did an interview just before

1113
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: we launched saying I will never sell my editing presets.

1114
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: It's my look, it's my thing.

1115
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: And then we literally just heard of like someone that

1116
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: this person we know had made a certain amount of

1117
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: money in a week on launch or a month in

1118
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: launching them, and we were like, what, it's actually like.

1119
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: A real thing.

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00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: It's actually it could be a business, and like it's

1121
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of shifted our mindset to be like, well, you

1122
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: know what, like if we're going to do this, like

1123
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: it could be something that like financially sets us free

1124
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: to not rely on because like some of the travel

1125
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: jobs we did or like branded jobs were a bit

1126
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: a bit shit, like we didn't really enjoy them.

1127
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: Didn't really enjoy doing it.

1128
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: I just did it because you felt like.

1129
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just really you're just growing someone else's brand.

1130
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: So we were like, maybe was we toyed with the idea?

1131
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: And then once we said yes, we were like, okay,

1132
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: we're fully invested in doing this. And we poured so

1133
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: much time into like launching them, and we'd heard a

1134
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: lot of people say, just sell whatever precepts, don't sell

1135
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: your actual precepts, just make some shitty ones and sell those,

1136
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: and we were.

1137
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: Like no, like, if we're gonna do it.

1138
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if we're gonna do it, we're gonna do

1139
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: it legit, and we're gonna give them the best of

1140
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: the best of our presets what we believe is like

1141
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: our favorite editing styles. So that was back in twenty seventeen,

1142
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen. Yeah, and I didn't really know many

1143
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: people were selling them. So at the time, it was

1144
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of people didn't even know what the

1145
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: word meant like and there wasn't mobile.

1146
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: It was just just.

1147
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: Twenty people don't know.

1148
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, surely by now everyone's selling them.

1149
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's just something that once we did,

1150
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: it was the best business decision that we did, and

1151
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: it was the feedback from everyone. Like we even noticed

1152
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: a lot of bloggers and like other people are the

1153
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: travel influences.

1154
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: They were buying them.

1155
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: So like they would pop up and we'd be like,

1156
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: oh cool, like they want to buy our presets, like

1157
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: people must actually be really interested. And then it's just

1158
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: forever since just been a growing business transitioned into obviously,

1159
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: as you know, mobile presets now are a massive thing

1160
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: because everyone's on their mobiles phon. So yeah, definitely like

1161
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: the best business decision that we did to be able

1162
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: to rely on ourselves and we could learn a lot

1163
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: about marketing and how to run a.

1164
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: Business and customer service and do.

1165
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: You guys do all that sort of stuff yourself.

1166
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: We have we have one girl working for us in

1167
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Bali and she looks on it looks after our social media,

1168
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: our emails, customer service, but we do all the posting,

1169
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: all of everything else, all their website, everything like that.

1170
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: But we are looking to try and like grow it

1171
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: a little bit more.

1172
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: But we also have a new business venture popping up

1173
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: which we haven't properly officially talked about, but I've kind

1174
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: of leaked it a little bit in a podcast here

1175
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: and there.

1176
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: But we're actually I'll leak it. So we're doing We're

1177
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 4: doing too much.

1178
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: I've leaked to do it.

1179
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 4: I've leaked on a few podcasts.

1180
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: It's like for the people who listen, they get to

1181
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: be the lucky ones to hear it first. So we're

1182
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: doing a video editing app. So it's gonna be called

1183
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: tone Studio app.

1184
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Is it going to be filters on the video filters

1185
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: for video? Oh my god? Yeah, thank you. Yeah.

1186
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: So we want to basically have research to be out

1187
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: of edit videos because obviously on light reading we can't

1188
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: edit videos. No, And then Instagram filters like yeah, like

1189
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I have one as well, and like they're really they're cool,

1190
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: But I would never personally take story the quality is

1191
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: so bad the story, yes, but I would never like

1192
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: take a photo or a video in story and save it.

1193
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: And post as a post.

1194
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes.

1195
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: And also like, because I obviously do like YouTube and stuff,

1196
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: and you know how you can transfer a light room.

1197
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: Pre set and turned into a lot, Yeah, I do that,

1198
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: but even then.

1199
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't it's not the same.

1200
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: No, it does take a bit of work to transition

1201
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: photo editing into a video editing.

1202
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: It's a different it's.

1203
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: Technical, and I'm like me, person I don't have time

1204
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: for that. Yeah.

1205
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1206
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: So we're also going to launch LUTs for like final

1207
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: Cut and premiere, so few lut packs because we're like,

1208
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: because I'm doing video editing now on YouTube and I

1209
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: just want like something quite subtle just to like throw

1210
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: over the top of my blog. Yeah, something just quite subtly, Yeah,

1211
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: to make it just look a little bit more beautiful.

1212
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I actually edited my recent vlog and I put one

1213
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: of my presets over it, like one of the LUTs

1214
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: I made and someone picked up on it. She's like,

1215
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: is this your dreamy preset on your video? Please tell

1216
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: me you're releasing LUTs And I was like, how did

1217
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: she know?

1218
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: Like she actually knew. I was like, that's so weird.

1219
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, So the big thing is the app. We're

1220
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: doing it app and we've got like a really cool

1221
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: team that I've got experience in app development in LA.

1222
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: So that's next.

1223
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: The timeline for that, well, any like in the next

1224
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Like the app's like built out, it's

1225
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: just perfecting the back end with the presets and so

1226
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: transition of.

1227
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: Them, because it's that's a bit of a process.

1228
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: If for example, if I, you know, get this app,

1229
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: I can take a video on my I phone, put

1230
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: it in it's edit amazing and that key quality.

1231
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1232
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we've got lots of plans to like

1233
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: further the app and do more and more with it.

1234
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: So we're going to start it's going to have some

1235
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: things like some light leaks and grain and like glitches

1236
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: like to be a like effects, a few effects, mainly

1237
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: the presets, and we're just gonna try and have as

1238
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: many as we can that are good yeah, like really

1239
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: good ones and then moving forward in the future, we're

1240
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna we're looking at like developing.

1241
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 4: We've already had a lot of interest from investors being.

1242
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: Like yep, I want to invest like grow it, so

1243
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: we wanted our long term goal is for it to

1244
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: be like huge thing, a huge app, like a really

1245
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: well known app like yeah, the light Room, the light

1246
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: Roop for video.

1247
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: I know a hundred And you know what I love

1248
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: about this on is like you've taken something that you know,

1249
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: you've done, you've built, and there's a gap in the market. Yeah,

1250
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: And like I just said, like it is you either

1251
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: because it's so funny you're saying this because I literally

1252
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: will take things on a filter and I'm like, I

1253
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: just want my.

1254
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: Video tool like that, but it is so low quality

1255
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: that you currently do that.

1256
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: And then it's really hard because when I do video content,

1257
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: all my photos are edited, you know, in light room.

1258
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: And it's got my preset on it.

1259
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: But you want it to be like the.

1260
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: Video I'm like, oh, it's not on brand.

1261
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: And that's yeah.

1262
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that kind of held me

1263
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: off from ever doing videos. I was like, oh, I

1264
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: have this certain like level of professionalism in my photos.

1265
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: Look, my video is aren't professional.

1266
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Like a lot of that comes into like video editing,

1267
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: which like I'm newer.

1268
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 4: But it's like you kind of sometimes struggle with.

1269
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: Not having the same style and like level of skill

1270
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: across both forms the media.

1271
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: But so exciting and yeah, like I was saying, like

1272
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: I love that it's come from, you know, a pain point,

1273
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: and I think all the best businesses have come from

1274
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: your you know, your own experiencing and needing something in

1275
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: your life and then.

1276
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Career like this is something that I want and need,

1277
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: so I'm going to do it. And because you want

1278
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: to need it, you want it to be good, so

1279
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: you like, no, it must be perfect, like they had

1280
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: it like pretty much ready, and they they've done the

1281
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: transfer themselves, like the from preset to lat or cube

1282
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: for it to go into the app in the back end,

1283
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: and I was playing around and I'm like, no, guys,

1284
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: it's not good enough, Like it doesn't look enough like

1285
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: our presets because it's different.

1286
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 4: It's difference, and we're.

1287
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: Like fully building out a technology behind in the app.

1288
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: So it's like there's a lot of like you want

1289
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: to stuff and I'm like, yeah, it's not transitioning the same.

1290
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: So I was like, we need to find a new

1291
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: way because I want it to be perfect, because like

1292
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: I want to use them. I'm not just launching it

1293
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: app and being like, oh, I've got followers, people will

1294
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: join up and use It's like, no, I want to

1295
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: I want a good app. And like the best way

1296
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: is word of mouth. And that's a huge thing that's

1297
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: happened even with our presepts, Yes, is word of mouth.

1298
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: People have talked about them. People might not even know

1299
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: who we are, but they've bought our presets because of

1300
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: word of mouth.

1301
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: And that's where I feel like reviews and like quality really.

1302
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: Is the key to a successful business is having a

1303
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: quality product.

1304
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: I love that and one hundred percent.

1305
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: And I think also, what I really love about what

1306
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: you said, and I resonate with this is like you

1307
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: know you did. You were working for other people and

1308
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: you're building the other brand and then you're like, oh wow,

1309
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: I found this scene and now you're building your own

1310
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: brand and you're building And this is because I was

1311
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: the same when we started my own I started coming

1312
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: with my brother Yea, and a huge thing for me

1313
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: was like I wanted to build it from the ground up, so.

1314
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: I knew every standard. I knew exactly.

1315
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: You know what was going and we do natural supplements.

1316
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 3: And so that sort of thing.

1317
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: I love what you just said about No, you wanted

1318
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: the quality to be perfect.

1319
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like that is huge, And.

1320
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: I think that's why instantly I know it's going to

1321
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: be so successful because you have so.

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Speaker 3: Much passion towards it, and it is. It makes a difference.

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Speaker 2: People know, they can tell when a lot of reputation, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like heart and yeah, like just trust has gone into

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Speaker 2: a brand.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so exciting. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So that and that's also been a good thing of

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Speaker 1: this year, Like the truth the problem, like the thing

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Speaker 1: with like not traveling and everyone having to slow down

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: is giving everyone the chance to like really like sit

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: back and have the time to work on those projects

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Speaker 1: that maybe you've been putting off. So like one of

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Speaker 1: my projects I'd been putting off was getting into YouTube,

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: and so this year I've started getting.

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Speaker 3: Into YouTube more.

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: So I'm like, good time, So let's do it.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I love that.

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Speaker 2: And like, just because I know my audience would love

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Speaker 2: to know the answer to this, but what advice would

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Speaker 2: you have for someone you know, turning a hobby into

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: a career, because like I said, you know your job

1342
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: being a trouble blogger and doing what you're doing, it's

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00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: definitely hashtag goals.

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00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what would your advice to.

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Speaker 1: Be, I think that you have to have Okay, So

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Speaker 1: for me to talk from my personal experience, it was

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Speaker 1: not going into it with the intention of just making money.

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Speaker 1: I think money can't be your initial intention. I think

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: it has to be like passion and happiness and enjoyment

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: because a lot of the times, most successful businesses will know,

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00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't just happen overnight, So you have to put

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of like sacrifice a lot and put

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot of time and work into it. And at

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00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: the beginning it's probably not going to pay off. But

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Speaker 1: if you are actually passionate about this thing, your hobby,

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00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: then you can turn it into something successful, a successful business.

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00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: And as most people that I know that have successful

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: business all say the same thing, They're like, yeah, it

1359
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: wasn't easy in the beginning. There was a lot of failure,

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00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: like a lot of hard work, a lot of time

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: for nothing. But we were so passionate about it that

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00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: like our goals were just like to keep going with

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: it because they were just enjoying it and they're like, no,

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: like I love what I do. I'm excited about it.

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00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: And then eventually people catch on to that, like if

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Speaker 1: you love something enough, like it's going to rub off

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00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: and people are gonna know that. It's like you're something

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00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: you're passionate about it. It's not just some quick overnight

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: money maker, like if it's a hobby, like you would

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00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: do it for free, Like that's what you don't get

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00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: paid to do your hobbies. So yeah, just treating it

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Speaker 1: as like your happiness and your passion and then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it could turn into a successful business.

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: I love that so much, Guys sitting here just grinning.

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Speaker 2: But it honestly is the best answer because I think

1376
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: it's a huge thing, especially on social media, is you

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00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: always see the end result.

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00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: You see you.

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: Know, like pretty future.

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00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see you guys.

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: Traveling first class like all that sort of stuff, and

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00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: you're just like, oh my god, like and you think

1383
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: that like you like you were saying, you know, I

1384
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: think I think we're speaking off the air, but you know,

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: people just think, oh, they must be rich.

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: Or something like that. They don't see and I'm the

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: background story. Yeah, and like.

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: You said of you going to Kenya for free and

1389
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: just like getting the shot and not having phone service

1390
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing, and I, yeah, I

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: resonate with that so much because we often don't see

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: the struggle and it isn't like no one's really no

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00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: overnight success.

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00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: No, and a lot of people don't show the struggle,

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00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: like I think lately there's been a bit of a

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: trend of people showing like a little bit like being

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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: a bit vulnerable and showing a bit of the downside

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: in life and like their problems or their struggles. But

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01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: generally most people, especially back then, no one showed the

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: struggles or that like hard work they went through. They

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: just they just showed the end goal or the end result,

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: and that would be that pretty picture or that whatever

1404
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: you've seen online that you thought, oh, they're just everything

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01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: works out for them, and you yes, because.

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: You don't show what doesn't work out.

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: Like if we went on a big photo mission and

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01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: got nothing, we wouldn't have never showed it.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't even know we.

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Speaker 3: Did it exactly, So I understand.

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Speaker 2: And then I think I think we all know that,

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: but it's just such a good reminder and like hearing

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01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: that from you, So thank you for that advice. And

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Speaker 2: so my last question to you, I know we're just

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: we could keep chatting forever, so I will wrap up

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01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: the interview. But my last question for you is when

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Speaker 2: you're not feeling yourself, you know, not feeling life, like,

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: what is something that you do that.

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 5: Will motivate you or inspire you?

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: Could be anything. Everyone's answers are very different.

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01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: What do I do to find inspirational motivation?

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Speaker 5: M m.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's a hard one because that's like very

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: dependent on like my mood, what it is, what my

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: mood is, or what's what I'm looking for for inspiration.

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: I think sometimes not putting too much pressure on myself

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: because sometimes what will uninspire me or make me feel

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: you're not good It would be the pressure I put

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: on if things haven't worked out. So I think sometimes

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: just like putting it aside for a bit, low energy, yeah,

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: and then just like coming back to it later and

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01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: just know that like your mood might change or like

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01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: you might see it differently when you come back to it.

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01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: So definitely like not putting too much pressure on yourself

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you over analyze as well.

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: So if I would sit back and then I'd be like, oh,

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm being too like hard on myself. But I think

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: just having a good network of like friends and family

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01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: around me as well, and like like talking about it,

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: Like if I'm having something that I'm like struggling with

1441
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: or not feeling good about, just being able to talk

1442
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: to especially like my sister, Yeah, will help me to

1443
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: feel better and like reassure me.

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times when something's like not working out,

1446
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: you think that it's worse than it is, and it

1447
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: always kind of works out in the end. So like,

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01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: for an example, would be like when we're on a trip,

1449
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: if the weather's being really bad or like you know

1450
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: nothing's going to plan, I might get really stressed out

1451
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: and upset and be like nothing's turning out. This is

1452
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: a waste of time, Like we have this to do

1453
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: for this brand, we haven't done this, we haven't done that,

1454
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Like everyone's gonna be so upset, and then it always

1455
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: ends up working out, Like something works out, but at

1456
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: the time you think nothing's gonna work out, this is

1457
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: complete fail, complete waste of my time, Like I can't

1458
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: believe this, and it always like in my experience, something

1459
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: always turns out or it doesn't turn out to be

1460
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: as bad as you think in the heat of the moment. Yep,

1461
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: so I don't know, if I don't know, if I

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: answer it right, I was like, I'm going around a

1463
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: few circles, right.

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 3: So great advice of all.

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01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: Lauren, Thank you so much for taking the time ad

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: to chat to the Rise and Conquer podcast gals, and

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01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, to chat to me and coming to my house.

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

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01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: No, thank you for having me. It was great to chat. Yes,

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 4: so wait.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, where can everyone find you?

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: On Instagram is gypsy Lust, which is spelled gyp Sea

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: Underscore Lust, and then on YouTube will be Lauren Bullen

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: and then our presepts are called do You Travel Presepts.

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01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 5: Perfect And I'll put all those links in the show notes.

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01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: Guys, thank you, thank you great chatting.

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: And that is it for today's episode.

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed

1479
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: this chat.

1480
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: And guys, if you did love this episode, if you

1481
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: love the podcast, please give us a review or make

1482
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: sure you're subscribed. It really helps out the Rise and

1483
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: Conquer podcast.

1484
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: And if you do love the.

1485
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: Podcast and you love the conversations that we have. I

1486
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: think that you would love our Facebook group, so come

1487
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: and join us. It's just Rise and Conquer podcast community.

1488
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: And yeah it's a private group where we chatted all

1489
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: things we do on the podcast. But thank you so

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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: much for listening. I'll chat you and I next day.

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: You whis be to me.

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: There's no baby, There's.

1493
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: Only time for dreams.

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01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 4: Even I hear the call, then I close my missus

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: seven dream concross at