WEBVTT - MINI: Escape to Victory

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<v Speaker 1>Quest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian o'connells Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get into this week's Letter of the eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's letter is Bletter Christian O'Connell's The eight Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>Post a millennial, not a child of the eighties, So

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<v Speaker 3>each week I've been giving him a movie to do

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<v Speaker 3>with the letter of the week. This week, what a movie,

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<v Speaker 3>What a tree for Jackie Boy. It was from nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty one Escape to Victory known in America's Victory. They

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<v Speaker 3>dropped the Escape to set in the Second World War Germany.

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<v Speaker 3>The Nazis want to play the prisoners of war and

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<v Speaker 3>in the Prison of War camp is a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>who's who of international football. There happens to be Michael Kay,

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<v Speaker 3>Sylvester Salone. We'll get into that in a minute, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Moore, Sir Bobby Moore, who was the captain of

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<v Speaker 3>the England football team that won the World Cup the

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<v Speaker 3>only time, probably the only time we will ever win

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<v Speaker 3>the World Up in nineteen sixty six, a hero and

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<v Speaker 3>the world's greatest player, one of the megastars in Sportland

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<v Speaker 3>at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Heele as well. It's like a who's who, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A great idea and you never really seen it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get all these international superstars of sport.

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<v Speaker 1>To act in said it in the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 3>Play a game against Hollywood's favorite baddies.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all time, the Nazis. What's at stake freedom?

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<v Speaker 3>Not only is it a football match, they also have

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<v Speaker 3>a plan to escape from the Germans.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot going on. Just listen to the trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this gets me excited when my dad took me

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<v Speaker 3>to see this in nineteen eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen forty two, and just.

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<v Speaker 1>This the music as well bursts on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen forty two, the Nazis thought they were sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on top of the world, never suspecting that they could

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<v Speaker 2>be toppled in one conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>In an unusual battle of the.

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<v Speaker 2>War, it has been decided that a German national team

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<v Speaker 2>will play a combined team from the prisoners of war

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<v Speaker 2>or the occupied territories. That's crazy, a stacked game, the

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<v Speaker 2>third Reich's finest against a ragged bunch of prisoners of war.

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<v Speaker 2>The Germans thought they hadn't made They couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Run about for ninety minutes. They'll be checking their guts up.

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<v Speaker 2>Victory starring Sylvester Stallone, Michael Keye, Max Vancido and introducing Pele.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to play football against the Germans?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? What? What a trainer? What a trailer? Also?

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<v Speaker 1>What a team playing for?

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<v Speaker 3>As the Baddies, they should have been called Baddie FC,

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<v Speaker 3>Third Reich's Finest?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you playing for? The moment? I'm playing for

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<v Speaker 1>Third Reich FC? Face him up front, face him at

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<v Speaker 1>the back. Terrifying manager.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to get in the big boss upstairs angry,

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<v Speaker 3>trust me, you think he's angry all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>When you lose. This guy really starts with the old Snarlian.

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<v Speaker 4>My main takeaway from the film was they could have

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<v Speaker 4>made the Nazis way more.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything the friendliest as to them. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an American movie, so it's a very American version

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<v Speaker 3>of what life must have been like in a Second

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<v Speaker 3>World War prisoner of war camp. The senior British officers

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<v Speaker 3>that they've captured are allowed their own very luxurious offices

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<v Speaker 3>where they have filing cabinets. There's a gardener, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>there's a man on his sneeze at one point doing

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<v Speaker 3>a herb garden there's an officer wandering around smoking a pipe,

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<v Speaker 3>so was there a tuck shop there? Where was he

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<v Speaker 3>getting the tobacco from? It's an incredible movie, this genuine

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<v Speaker 3>Did you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it, honestly loved it. The sports aspect. If

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<v Speaker 4>you if you love a good sports film, go and

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<v Speaker 4>watch it. If you want a gritty World War two

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<v Speaker 4>like what was.

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<v Speaker 1>It really like?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't watch as the war, don't watch this because the

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<v Speaker 4>English for the most part, had their feed up on

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<v Speaker 4>the tables, were whistling around the prisoner yard. They were

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<v Speaker 4>having a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Running, running four leagues, running a four league football division,

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<v Speaker 3>which is so much work. There's the in the first

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<v Speaker 3>sort of six minutes of the movie. Sylvester Stallone isn't

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<v Speaker 3>needed in this movie?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I loved him.

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<v Speaker 3>How can you love his character as a midgic goalkeeper

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<v Speaker 3>when the first time you see him in the goals

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like a kid's having a knock around. He's tiny,

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<v Speaker 3>He's the smallest man in the whole movie, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>in net.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the goalkeeper.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he needs to be there because he's like.

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<v Speaker 3>You watching a footy movie and the Americans having as

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<v Speaker 3>Max Gorn a ruckman, are very Tom Cruise playing Max Gorn.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what made it so because it makes the English

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<v Speaker 4>a worse team because they've got this American guy in

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<v Speaker 4>goals and he's never played soccer before. He doesn't even

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<v Speaker 4>know where to stand when they get a corner kick.

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<v Speaker 4>But does he save the day? We'll find out if

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<v Speaker 4>you watch the film.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently stallone right, because he'd just come off the back

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<v Speaker 3>of Rocky too, so he's a really big start. Was

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<v Speaker 3>a nightmare on set.

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<v Speaker 1>He insisted that they change the script and he's score

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<v Speaker 1>a goal, and.

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<v Speaker 3>All the actual footballers like goalie, Yeah, like Pele went.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a goalie.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the world's greatest goalie, which are not because you're tiny,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't get a goal against the Germans. There's some of

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<v Speaker 3>the best players ever in the world. Goalkeepers don't go

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<v Speaker 3>up front and score the winning goal. So they had

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<v Speaker 3>to that's what he saves, and that the penalty at

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<v Speaker 3>the end. They had to give him that.

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<v Speaker 4>They gave him the hero moment. But it would have

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<v Speaker 4>been great if he saved it and then dribbled across

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<v Speaker 4>eleven players and scored a goals.

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<v Speaker 3>There a single line here sort of Stallone's first line

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<v Speaker 3>in the first five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisia can have my board back, one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The greatest lines ever, and he says to the German

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<v Speaker 3>visiting their prison of.

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<v Speaker 2>War camp, Lisa can have my boar back.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you make of Michael Kaine?

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<v Speaker 4>Liked him and I traditionally don't like Michael Kane because

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<v Speaker 4>I told you about that interview I saw where he

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<v Speaker 4>was obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a great actor in this.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved Colby.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Michael Caine meeting the German commander for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, where they sort of they're sort of testing

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<v Speaker 3>each other out.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the spotsvior double meaning of the word feurer. There,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the sports viewer. You are the spotvich. I'm Colby.

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<v Speaker 2>Colby was very familiar. It's a common name.

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<v Speaker 1>Very enthusiastic, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Bloody good, but very enthusiastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you play Mattress. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a league, four divisions for division.

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<v Speaker 2>We even't played internationals internationals England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>You call that international would be international.

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<v Speaker 2>If you played against Germany, we'd murder you.

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<v Speaker 1>The most.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a prisoner of war in the ugliest war, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>millions have been killed and they're lying to each other. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get me started on that Colby and then this

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<v Speaker 3>German okay, who works for the Nazi Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Colby John Colby, Western and England.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 3>He's suddenly recognizing that he's such a mega football fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Will come back then to Escape the Victory? To do

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<v Speaker 1>with the letter V of the eighties The Christian O'Connell

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<v Speaker 1>show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack's Honework wants to watch nineteen eighty one eighties movie

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<v Speaker 3>to a Letter V Escape to Victory, set in the

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<v Speaker 3>Second World War.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's Who Are Football?

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<v Speaker 3>Pelais also starring Michael Kaine Sylvester Stallone. It's a great movie.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're looking for someone to watch this weekend, it

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<v Speaker 3>will make you smile. It's enough of a good movie

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<v Speaker 3>where you want to see how it all plays out

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<v Speaker 3>in the end. Twenty minutes of the actual football games

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<v Speaker 3>done really well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you struck gold with this recommendation and I did

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<v Speaker 4>love it. But can I give you my top three

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<v Speaker 4>believable moments of the movie. Number one is so they're

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<v Speaker 4>in a prisoner of war camp. The Nazis from every

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<v Speaker 4>other war movie we've seen would totally get them in

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<v Speaker 4>trouble for anything any wrongdoing. Sylvesti salone escapes the prisoner

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<v Speaker 4>of war camp and comes back. He gets like a

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<v Speaker 4>slap on the wrist, and the Germans are essentially going

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<v Speaker 4>like you naughty boy.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy.

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<v Speaker 4>While he's away, the rest of the troop makes a

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<v Speaker 4>Sylvester Stallone Latex dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>Early Madam two sorts, which.

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<v Speaker 4>They carry around and convince of the Germans that that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Health were the Germans were they gonna go, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>paper mache head.

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<v Speaker 4>And then not only that, do they get away for

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<v Speaker 4>days on end with this paper mache sylvesterter Lione that

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<v Speaker 4>fools the Germans When they find out that it's a

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<v Speaker 4>paper mache doll, you would think, all right, well, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole team's dead. You're gonna get in big trouble for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've read the history books. We know how this ended.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna get in trouble. They do. They just laugh

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a prank.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know what they're up to be escaped. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like a hidden camera show. Pranks galore in this camp

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<v Speaker 3>Number two.

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<v Speaker 4>These are two to do with the final game. Michael

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<v Speaker 4>Caine obviously not a great footballer because.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a footballer, you know, it's all the cutaways.

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<v Speaker 3>All he does is that you don't see him running.

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<v Speaker 4>You never see him really play.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, someone that actually played in the game. There's

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<v Speaker 3>quite a few English footballers, not really well known ones

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<v Speaker 3>that's still on there to to to make it look realistic.

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<v Speaker 4>And they did. They made it look like a great,

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<v Speaker 4>proper game.

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<v Speaker 1>Plea.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got amazing Argentinian soccer play. Used to play for

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<v Speaker 3>Spurs as well, Ossie Ardeliz. There's loads of great players,

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Moore and they've got a couple of Michael Kaine right,

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<v Speaker 3>had a problem apparently with his legs and so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't see him running. Another English footballer, Kevin Beatty, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>his legs were used for Michael Kain's legs.

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<v Speaker 4>You never see Michael Kane do anything on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't even.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just pointing a lot. He doesn't move during the game.

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<v Speaker 3>His legs are played by Kevin Beatty. What a great

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<v Speaker 3>fact for the English rule Kevin Beatty that his legs

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<v Speaker 3>were Michael Kaine's legs in the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally at halftime, the team the English team has

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to escape the Germans because they're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why they took the game, really was

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<v Speaker 3>so they could escape.

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<v Speaker 4>They had this big plan escape with the French.

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<v Speaker 1>The French.

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<v Speaker 4>French were going to tunnel into the stadium, into the

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<v Speaker 4>locker rooms of the visiting team and they would all exit.

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<v Speaker 4>They go into halftime for one down, and they're about

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<v Speaker 4>to exit through this tunnel that some French guys have

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<v Speaker 4>dug all night. And then as they're getting down into

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<v Speaker 4>the or, one of the guys goes, wait, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we can still win this, And then they ken looks

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<v Speaker 4>around and sayes, do we think we can still win this? Yea,

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<v Speaker 4>we do. So they give up their freedom, their prisoner's

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<v Speaker 4>a war.

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<v Speaker 3>They must know, they must know that only death will

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<v Speaker 3>await them, and they decide to go back for the

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<v Speaker 3>second half. And also I remember watching it the first times,

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<v Speaker 3>are going why didn't they have this conversation already, like

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<v Speaker 3>we are leaving, don't kimm it. I don't care whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's a draw, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Four all, or we're only one behind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just football. Yeah, I don't want to die in

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<v Speaker 3>a prisoner of war. I want to see my family. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>to know what now, Let's go on, come on, it's football,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It beat the Germans.

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<v Speaker 4>It would look bad if we didn'tmanship.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually looks rude to the Germans. They've hosted this, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do that. Final mark s out of ten for Escape

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<v Speaker 3>to Victory A great film, fantastic look.

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