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Speaker 1: Jum mission with James and Amanda frommomia dot com dot

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Speaker 1: a you, it's Claire Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Claire, Hello, Hello. We have a lot to talk

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Speaker 2: about today.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's debrief, let's get stuck straight into and it

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Speaker 3: seems to me, as a non viewer, the big storyline

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Speaker 3: is the fact that an image of Dom from her

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Speaker 3: OnlyFans account has been shared throughout the group, and it's

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Speaker 3: what's the girl's name, Olivia.

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Speaker 1: She's the one, She's the one. She has no empathy,

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Speaker 1: she's like terminate. She just doesn't stop, but she's terminated,

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Speaker 1: and she doesn't shut her mouth when she's speaking.

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Speaker 3: Is But the issue here is and this is a

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Speaker 3: big societal issue, isn't it. So who have people sided

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Speaker 3: with within the confines of the show.

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Speaker 2: Within the confines of the show, they've really sided with Olivia,

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Speaker 2: who shared the photo, and they've said there was no malice.

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Speaker 2: She just happened to find this photo.

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Speaker 3: She was curious.

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Speaker 2: She was curious, and you know it's on the internet.

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Speaker 2: So what did you expect? Which is just lovely rhetoric

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Speaker 2: to play out on television. Whereas the audience has very

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Speaker 2: much sided with Dom and decided as a collective that

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Speaker 2: this is a horrible, horrible thing to play out on TV. However,

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Speaker 2: I have to say that looking at it and taking

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Speaker 2: stock over a few episodes, which I have done because

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Speaker 2: I watch every second of this, I do think there's

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Speaker 2: something no one's saying, and it's that if we're really

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Speaker 2: looking at who to blame in this situation, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's Olivia. I think it's Channel nine because if

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Speaker 2: they really thought that there was something very sensitive about this,

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Speaker 2: and we care about women's privacy and we don't want

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Speaker 2: the whole world to know that Dominica was on OnlyFans,

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Speaker 2: why did they play out the storyline? I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because we were supposed to believe

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Speaker 3: I'm imagining that the experts at the stop gap here

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Speaker 3: and they have been, So where what do we a

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Speaker 3: society learn from this? It's interesting you say that the

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Speaker 3: audience is saying Olivia is out of line, because what

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Speaker 3: do we take from this if the experts aren't guiding us,

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Speaker 3: and how we're supposed to feel about this, and how

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Speaker 3: outrageous it is that someone's privacy can be violated like this.

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Speaker 2: I know, I don't think the experts did what people

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Speaker 2: expected them to do. At the commitment ceremony on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: they called live out, but then she got upset so

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Speaker 2: they backed off, which was a bit weird.

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Speaker 1: What about what you said? I and now I'm in

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Speaker 1: a bad movie. She's like for Ruca Salt, I know

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Speaker 1: she was so.

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Speaker 2: Upset, and it's like, Oh, you really upset somebody else.

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Speaker 3: That's why you're upset.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say, this is the first time

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Speaker 2: I've recapped married at First Sight since the very first season.

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Speaker 2: This is the first time my sister and I, who

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Speaker 2: do it together, have had to stop ourselves and say,

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Speaker 2: we can't write that about someone because you want to.

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Speaker 2: You're so angry at this woman, And I think Olivia

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Speaker 2: to a lot of women and represents what we've experienced.

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Speaker 2: You might be familiar with it, Amanda, when there's another

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Speaker 2: woman who does something cruel and then acts like it's

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Speaker 2: very strange that you're upset about it. I think it's

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Speaker 2: sort of this toxic pattern that plays out. But I

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Speaker 2: have to say, I think we're forgetting that there is

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Speaker 2: a role for editing and duty of care exactly that

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Speaker 2: they have let this air. And I did think at

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Speaker 2: the commitment ceremony. The empathy comment that Olivia made, she

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Speaker 2: said I have no empathy, that was one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: edited out of context. She was definitely saying I have

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Speaker 2: no empathy for Dominica in this situation because Xy said

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Speaker 2: probably still not a good thing to say. But that

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Speaker 2: SoundBite of her saying I have no empathy has now

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Speaker 2: been twisted to make it about she's a sociopath. She's

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Speaker 2: a psychopath. She's training to be a teacher the internet.

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Speaker 2: There's like a petition for her not to be allowed

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Speaker 2: to teach. I just think this has really bad consequences.

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Speaker 1: And for anyone that's going to go on these shows,

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Speaker 1: you have to take like you're selling your soul to

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Speaker 1: the devil. Channel nine after year they do. But I

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Speaker 1: disagree with you a bit on the Channel nine stuff.

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Speaker 1: All they need to do is get people to watch

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Speaker 1: the show so they get advertising. So I would if

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Speaker 1: I was a producer or of that show, I would

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Speaker 1: be doing exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point. What is their responsibility? You do

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Speaker 3: have a duty of care. We have that at the

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Speaker 3: radio station. We have to protect people from themselves. If

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Speaker 3: we have a competition and there are other radio stations

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Speaker 3: that do that pull your pants for free?

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Speaker 1: People would your pants for cash?

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Speaker 2: Free?

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Speaker 3: Have to protect people from their lower selves and we

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Speaker 3: take that seriously and sociuld channel nine. And so if

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Speaker 3: they see this as as like the gas lighting thing

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Speaker 3: last series, what as Society? A million people at night

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Speaker 3: are watching this. This is the most viewed show in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Is this a bad thing that we're seeing this plan?

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Speaker 1: Where does it stop?

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Speaker 2: I think a lot people would look at it and

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Speaker 2: think it's good that we're seeing it play out. It's

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Speaker 2: starting in conversation and that is there a context to

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Speaker 2: the conversation. Yeah, And I think so many people are

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Speaker 2: looking at it and saying, well, it's good that we all,

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Speaker 2: you know, collectively, and there's opinion pieces and all of

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Speaker 2: that that say, we don't shame a woman. We just

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Speaker 2: don't shame a woman for a nude photo. It's not

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Speaker 2: something to be ashamed of. I think that's great. However,

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Speaker 2: I think the bigger thing is the impact that it

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Speaker 2: is having on these individuals. It just can't be good

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Speaker 2: in the long term.

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Speaker 1: No, And once again, has anything good as any merit

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Speaker 1: at first sight? Contestant parlayd something I think are duels

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Speaker 1: and cam that's about it. Yeah, so oudam So. The

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Speaker 1: show's been going since twenty fifteen. Ye, so they're the

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Speaker 1: only couple that have actually managed to survive unscathed.

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Speaker 2: I know, and I think every person who goes into

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Speaker 2: it probably thinks they're going to be the character that

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Speaker 2: everyone falls in love with, and.

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Speaker 3: And the push for ratings. They're not going to let

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Speaker 3: them know. They're not going to let four nice couples

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Speaker 3: go on that show and find love. That's not how.

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Speaker 2: I just think. I think we keep a close eye

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Speaker 2: on this storyline the next few weeks. And as much

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Speaker 2: as Olivia has done some horrible things on television, there

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Speaker 2: is no way that woman is okay right now.

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Speaker 3: So are we becoming the people in the crowd square

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Speaker 3: watching the behavior pretty much what we've become.

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Speaker 1: That's it. There's a show idea, bring that back. Claire,

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Speaker 1: It's always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: I will catch you next week.

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Speaker 3: Jonesy and Amanda's