1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: land on which this episode is being recorded, the Komboo 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Marry people. We pay our respects to elders past, present 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and emerging and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: and this is the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: the podcast where we ch have mindset, self development and 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: becoming your higher self mix soon with a lot of laughs, 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: plus behind the scenes of my life running two businesses 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and being among Think of us as the perfect combo 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: of brunch with your besties mixed with self developments. No 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: matter where you are in your journey, we're here to 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: help you be curious, pull yourself out, and embrace radical 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: self awareness. If you're ready to get into the driver's 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: seat of your own life and stop letting life past 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: you by, then you're in the right place. Hello guys, 17 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. Today 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: we have a bit of a controversial episode. We are 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: talking about why you need to cut out gossip, trash 20 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: TV and celebrity podcasts. Oh So, this has been a 21 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: journey that I have been on in twenty twenty three, 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: and honestly, it has changed my life considerably. And once 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I had awareness of what these things were actually like 24 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: doing to my brain and my concept of self and 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: how they were watering me down, and how much better 26 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I felt once I once I left these things in 27 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: the past, it was wild. A Tears also been on 28 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the journey, so we are excited to bring you this episode. 29 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: But before we get into it, I wanted to do 30 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: a quick announcement because our n H Black Friday sale 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: if you're listening in real time, is live, so there 32 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: is up to seventy percent off, which is wild. 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But it's basically 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: an app where you can track your period, but then 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: it also sinks it with the moon. 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 53 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: And I was reading this book all about like periods 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: sinking and just like in regards to how to like 55 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: work with your cycle, and I didn't realize that it's 56 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: like women, we like our cycle is like I know 57 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: the cycle is twenty eight days, but like our cycle 58 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: is twenty eight days, whereas a men's cycle is twenty 59 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: four hours. And basically how everything in society is like 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: made for men and they're twenty four hour cycle, and 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: why women struggle at certain parts of the month. And 62 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I've always known this, but just to have like the 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: science behind it and a bit more information has been 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: so helpful. So I've been like tracking my period from 65 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: a sense of like what's my current phase and like 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: with the phases, And we'll have to do a podcast 67 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: on otia, but it's basically like certain phases like you're 68 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: going to feel more motivated. So it's like doing more 69 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: high intensity workouts. It's like doing your goal setting. And 70 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: then you know certain phases where it's like more of 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: internal it's about reflection, and so I do that and 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: this app is amazing because it kind of tells you, 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: like what you should expect, what you should feel, and 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: then I track all my symptoms. And I've only been 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: doing it for a couple of months now, but it's 76 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: just giving me this sense of like, when I am 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: feeling like overwhelmed or like over emotional, I look at 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: the app, I'm like, well, this makes sense, and it 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: almost like validates me and I can give myself a 80 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: bit more compassion for not being my usual self. And 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: so she's been really helpful. 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, and I love the notification language. 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm literally gonna read the one I got this morning. 84 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: Just the way it sort of talks to you is 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: so nice. Which so my notification for today was your 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: testosterone is rising. So if you've I like, getting into 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: a fight with someone, it's okay. And then in brackets 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: not really, but let out the anger if you need to. 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. Yeah, And is that 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: how you feel right now? 91 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: I felt a little bit angry this week. Yeah, and 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: I think I was just like, oh, it makes enough sense. 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: My wreck for the week is our conversation cards. 95 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Love that. Yeah, it's a little plug. 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: It is a little plug. I used them, I'd say, 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: probably for the first time with people who I haven't 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: or it's not normal for me to have deep conversations 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: with and gosh they work well. We had to make 100 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: it a little game. I did it with my best 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: friend and her partner, and he was very intent on 102 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: winning the game. So we made it. 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: Well, so what do you mean you made it a game? 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: So we made a little rule that if you gave 105 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: the best answer or you challenged someone the most on 106 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: a specific question, you got to keep the card, and 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: the person at the end with the most cards like wins. 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that you made it again. Yeah, 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: he got really involved. Yeah, he got so involved. And 110 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: it's funny. 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: We needed a few cards to crack the shell. Like 112 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: there are a lot of golf answers in the beginning, 113 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: which is fine, but once we got into it, like 114 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: it was getting to the point where he was challenging 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: us so much, we were like, just take the card. 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: We don't want to get into this right now. You 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: can just have the card you win. 118 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: So I think if you have someone in your life 120 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: that you know it's in there, but you just can't 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: get to have that conversation with them yet, grab the 122 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: deck of cards, Pretend it's a game. Tell them that 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: if they give the best answer or they pull the 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: other person up on something, they get to keep the card. 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Person at the end with the most cards wins. It 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: works a treat. I love that. 127 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: That's definitely what I found when I played it with 128 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: my parents. I found like just the concept of having 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: physical cards and being like, oh, this is a game, 130 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: it's conversation cards, blah blah blah. They were able to 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: like open up their selves just a bit more to it. 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: It felt like less intimidating. Yeah, tell me, all right, 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: should we get into the episode. Let's do it today. 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: We're talking about jealousy in comparison a tear. 135 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: This is going to be a little bit controversial, but 136 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: the biggest change I made in twenty twenty three that 137 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: made the biggest difference was cutting out gossip and drama 138 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: in my life. Okay, so let me explain let's get 139 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: into it, because this has been a wild ride, and 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: now that I'm on the other end, I'm like holy 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: like holy shit, because we're all like, we're all stuck 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: into it. Let me explain, because I honestly think people 143 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: are gonna get mad when I had this conversation, and look, 144 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: I would too, but let me go into the story 145 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: and the reason why this is an episode. So I 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: want to say I reckon. Around February, I got my first, 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: not my first, I guess my first. I got a 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: business coach and I hadn't had one in a very 149 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: long time, so it's like this big you know, it 150 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: was this big up level for me. And she was 151 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: a business coach who focused on shadow work, so we 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: straight away did a lot of shadow work. And basically, 153 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: if you don't know what shadow work is, I find 154 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: it more easy to think of it as shame work. 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: So it's basically parts of yourself that you are ashamed of, 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: or like have a weird relationship with that you think 157 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: are unlovable, not good problems, problems that basically sit outside 158 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: you because you almost like reject that part of yourself. 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: And so the whole point of shadow work is to 160 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: integrate that part of yourself so you become whole. Because 161 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: when you have those parts of yourself that you reject, 162 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: they always come to express themselves. It's usually in toxic ways, 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: or it can come out in depression, anxiety, some like 164 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: really interesting ways. So the whole point is like to 165 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: integrate it, to become your whole self, because we all 166 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: have different parts of ourselves like good, bad, blah blah blah. 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: So anyway, I was watching one of her trainings and 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I had the biggest light bulb moment and she was 169 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: basically saying that, you know, like if you're addicted to 170 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: trash TV or like crime TV, and like this is 171 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: something where you're like, and I remember a Tia I've 172 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: definitely said on the podcast almost the concept of oh 173 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I love trash TV and trash podcasts or celebrity podcast 174 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: because it's like my numbing and I like the drama 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: not in my life. 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like not really or you feel like 177 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: it's not really hurting anyone. 178 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Yes. 179 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: So I had this like light bulb moment where basically 181 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I realized, I fucking love drama. I love the drama. 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I love that whole concept. It's just it's a part 183 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: of myself that I was quite shameful about and I 184 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: had rejected and I'm like, oh, I'm not that person. 185 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because once I became aware of this 186 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: part of myself, so it was like a domino effect 187 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: to so many other things that I realized that, like 188 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: trash TV, gossip podcasts, drama, all that sort of thing. 189 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: And now I truly believe And I did Instagram posts 190 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: about this that went quite viral, of like, as much 191 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: as you judge other people is just a reflection of 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: how much you judge yourself. So if you're watching these 193 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: trash TVs or listening to celebrity podcasts, one hundred percent 194 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: you're judging these people. Yeah, Like even if you think, 195 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: oh it's just a bit funny, it's a bit nine 196 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: month like my numbing, there is a part of you 197 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: who enjoys someone else being canceled fucking up, like doing 198 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: something you would never do. That is giving you a 199 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: reflection of how much you actually judge yourself. And there 200 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: is like there's truth to this because in society, we 201 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: do need to know what's right or wrong. Yeah, Like 202 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: we need to have the concept of like you shouldn't 203 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, steal, you shouldn't blah blah blah. And I 204 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: truly believe though, like at this age you should have 205 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: the values of knowing what's right or wrong. You don't 206 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: need things like podcasts and trash TV to tell you. 207 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, yeah, because what I then understood 208 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: in my subconscious is me watching trash TV or listening 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: to these podcasts was subconsciously basically putting a limit me, 210 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: putting me in a box and not letting me fully 211 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: express myself or go after the things I truly wanted. 212 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Because I had this concept that when you color outside 213 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the line, when you know, get found out or all 214 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: the things, it's like you get canceled, like things go wrong, 215 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: people judge you, And basically it's telling your subconscious that 216 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: there are rules and there are right and wrongs. Because 217 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: also if you look at it, like a lot of 218 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the time in reality TV, like the confident women or 219 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the women who speak their mind, they are like they're 220 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: the villains. 221 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they always get the villain edit. 222 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: They always get the villain edit. Like you're being played 223 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: so many stereotypes that are maybe not something you want 224 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: in your life, and so you think, oh, it's just 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,479 Speaker 1: a silly TV show, but you're literally telling your subconscious 226 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the stories that you want it to believe. So in 227 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: my case, I used to love a certain like celebrity 228 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: gossip podcast, but it's like when I actually looked at it, 229 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: and I'm obvioutly not a celebrity, but I am in 230 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: like the public eye. The public eye, and certain behavior 231 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: can be criticized. And I realize that I used to 232 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: warp or change myself or not fully express myself because 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: I was worried about people seeing me in a certain light, 234 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: judging me. And even though I've come such a long 235 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: way in self expression and being confident in who I am, 236 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: it was still a hindrance for me, like going after 237 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: what I truly wanted and like pivoting and changing. And 238 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I know we're not always in that position, but for example, 239 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: let's just say you're someone who does want to start 240 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: a new business. Yeah, if you are sitting and watching, 241 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, TV shows where they're criticizing people constantly, you 242 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: would be internalizing that. You would be saying to yourself, well, 243 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: if I don't know I'm going to fully succeed, don't try. 244 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's also especially with TV shows 245 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: like reality TV, you find they'll always interview people and 246 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: ask them about the other contestants, And I think it 247 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: normalizes this, like, or at least I personally think people 248 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: caring more than you actually think. Yes, like people, it's 249 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: not that deep, No, it's and I feel like when 250 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: I used to watch TV shows like that, because we 251 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: obviously had a conversation about this earlier in the year, 252 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: and I stopped watching reality TV. But when I watch 253 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: stuff like that, and I would watch people talk about 254 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: each other in such negative ways or complain about tiny 255 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: little things that are just like sort of people's little isms, 256 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: and everyone gets to have that. It like made me 257 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: more anxious to like maybe go to the gym and 258 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: try a new machine, because someone's gonna think I'm an idiot, 259 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: and then they're gonna go home and laugh about it. 260 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: But they're probably not even gonna laugh about it, or 261 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: like even remember that it happened, if they even see 262 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: it happening in the first place. But it just makes 263 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: you hyper aware everyone around you and makes you think 264 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: that they're all these eyes are on you, and if 265 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: you take one step out of line, someone's gonna laugh, 266 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: someone's gonna go home and tell their partner or something, 267 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: and that's just like not the case, and. 268 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: It makes you awarded down version of yourself. Yeah, and 269 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: it's so true because it's even let's kind of take 270 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: a broader step back then and also talk about like gossip. 271 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: So I definitely not that it would be like gossip 272 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: in a like negative you know way of like a 273 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: really gross, ick toxic gossip way, but just gossip I'm 274 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: even talking about where you're just like you're judging what 275 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: others do. So it's like it could be the way 276 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: someone mothers, it could be the way someone runs their business, 277 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: of a choice they make in their life, and if 278 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: you're talking to your friend about it, again, you are 279 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: normalizing behavior that when someone steps outside the line, when 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: they don't do something order, when they do things differently, 281 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: people judge them and people are negative towards them and 282 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: they talk about them. So it's like, how do you 283 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: think you're going to act? You're always going to internalize 284 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: that judgment and again, catch yourself because if you always 285 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: want to go to a certain friend or you know 286 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: someone maybe it's your mum or whatever, and gossip about someone, again, 287 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: you are just playing out this subconscious judgment that you 288 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: have on yourself. Yeah, otherwise why would you have a 289 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: problem with it? I know. So that's even like you'll 290 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: often fine the most judgmental people or the people who 291 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: criticize other people internally are like how much they actually 292 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: judge themselves? Which is wild to think about and it's 293 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: really crazy. And that's why I had to have moments 294 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: where I was really honest with myself and I was like, fuck, 295 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: I do judge people in this certain thing. Yeah, And 296 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: then I had to look at myself and I had 297 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: to look and I found so many judgments that I 298 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: had on myself that I then had to work through 299 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: and clear and so sorry, going back to my whole 300 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: thing in This happened in February and I started unpacking 301 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and going on this journey of like not having judgment 302 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: to other people. And it truly starts with the Gossip 303 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: podcast and the Trash TV. If you say, oh, I 304 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: just I just really like it, it's my numbing like you're 305 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: lying to yourself. Yeah, like, really be honest. We had 306 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: this conversation. It took you a whalitier. It took me 307 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: a while to wen off and relaze and be really 308 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: honest And I'm not saying you can't dabble in those things, 309 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying if there is this, like usually 310 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: where there is addiction, whether it's to like crime podcasts 311 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: or like you know those things, it's usually something else 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: happening in your life, Yeah, that you are trying to soothe. 313 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 314 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: So I went on this journey this year, and you know, 315 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: there was certain people I had to remove from my life. 316 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I had to see less. There's certain conversations I had 317 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't do this anymore. Like I 318 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: literally said the words don't. I don't want to do 319 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: this anymore. I don't want to entertain this. I've had 320 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: to like really be careful about when I'm talking to 321 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: certain people and they bring they you know, bring something in, 322 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and then my wording around what I say and how 323 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: I move forward in the conversation and just really noticing 324 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: myself because what I realized, and there's there's like scientific 325 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: evidence to back this up, but when we judge others, 326 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: we literally get a serotonin hit. No way, so we 327 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: get a serotonin like a dopamine hit. An actual hormone happens, 328 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's a way, it's like our ego. It makes 329 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: us feel superior. It's the same when we look at 330 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: our phone and we get a dopamine hit. So we 331 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: literally get this dopamine hit. It's a happy feeling of like, 332 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: oh they're you know, they're this way, I'm not, And 333 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: you literally get a hormone feeling that makes you feel 334 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: better about yourself. So of course gossiping is addictive. Yeah. Wow, 335 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: And so I had to notice that part of myself 336 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: and be like, fuck, like I can I understand that 337 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: part of myself, And even like me and Tim have 338 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: had to have conversations. He's even pulled me up, like 339 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: he did pull me up the other day and being 340 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: like are we being judgmental? And I had to be like, 341 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: we're not. And I choose to bring this in a 342 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: different way. 343 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 344 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. 345 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: It's so interesting. And I think the other thing gossip 346 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: really feeds into that people might not always clock is 347 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: a comparison trap. And that has been like such that 348 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: and breakups have honestly been the most common theme I've 349 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: seen in our Facebook community this year is people getting 350 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: stuck comparing themselves to their friends from high school, or 351 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: their friends from UNI, or other moms or the way 352 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: someone else is doing something. And it's like when you 353 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: engage in gossip or like the reality TV, the trash TV, 354 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things, you feed your superiority complex, 355 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: but you also feed your thought that there is a 356 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: hierarchy and that some people are better than others based 357 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: on their actions, which actually technically isn't true unless you 358 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: decide it to be. Also, if you have ever done 359 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: something and I'm doing air quotes bad in your life, 360 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: which we all fucking have, Yeah, like we all not 361 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: perfect humans. 362 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: We've always we've all fucked up. Yeah, if you have 363 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: ever done something bad and then you are judging others, 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: I guarantee you you are suppressing guilt and shame. And 365 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: until you stop judging others, you cannot stop judging yourself 366 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: and you cannot release those feelings and basely feel free. 367 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: Like I guarantee you you it feels crippling because it 368 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: feels like like you said, like we no one's perfect. 369 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: We've always done like there's always been something that when 370 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: the proudest of or something has happened. But also we're 371 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: all like we're not supposed to be perfect. We're supposed 372 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: to move through life and have certain lessons and grow 373 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: and evolve, Like I'm not the same person I was 374 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: when I was twenty one, and I definitely am not 375 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: doing the same things that I was when I was 376 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: twenty one. Gotta be scared as long as you are 377 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: judging others and not able to see that, it's like 378 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: they deserve forgiveness, they deserve to be on their own evolution. 379 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: You're yeah, like you're just judging yourself, and I think 380 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: that's even there's such a thing to it. Also, because 381 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: you're so right with the comparison of comparison is like 382 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: you're basically creating your own prison. Yeah, because it's like 383 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: it's only in your head. It doesn't actually matter. You 384 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: are just creating your own prison. And this is what 385 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I truly believe, Like gossip feeds into it's like creating 386 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: your own prison in your mind of what's right and wrong, 387 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: and it's going to stop you from fully expressing yourself. 388 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: It's going to stop you from going out and achieving 389 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: your goals. And you are basically going to learn how 390 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: to warp yourself so you are l liked and you 391 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: stay in like the lines of what's accepted and not accepted, 392 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: rather than being like truly your authentic self. 393 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's actually so scary, I know, because 394 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: we all like we all do it. 395 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: We all do it. And that's another thing, is like, 396 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: if you are one to gossip, I completely get it. 397 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: Me and a tear, We've had this conversation. We love drama, 398 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: we like we love to feed off that energy. Yeah, 399 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: but you can always change. And I think also now 400 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: I actually get such like now I've almost like switched 401 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: my brain where I get that serotonin hit when I see, 402 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, someone doing something different and instead of judging 403 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: them being like, oh, they're really fucked up or like 404 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: they're doing it wrong, I choose to look at it 405 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: differently of like oh that's so cooled, they're doing life differently. 406 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Could I use this as an expansive moment for myself. Yeah, 407 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: because also again, only the only time that you were 408 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: triggered by someone else is always just a reflection of 409 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: what is happening to you internally. Yeah, And so it's 410 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of like, for example, if someone went out and 411 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: like started a business and then you know, let's say 412 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: quote unquote failed or something. 413 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: Like that, that would never. 414 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Trigger me because I've already gone out and started business. 415 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: I know how hard it is, I know the challenges, 416 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: and I would have so much compassion and like, fuck, 417 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: that's so good that they even did that. I hope 418 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: they pick up the pieces and continue to like follow 419 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: their goals. Yeah, but if you were someone who's scared 420 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: about starting a business and scared about failing, that would 421 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: trigger you. 422 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be like or even like just like feed 423 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: your ego a bit, going, oh, I'm really right to 424 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: not do that, because look at what happened to her, 425 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: and that's really embarrassing exactly. Yeah. The other thing that 426 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: I noticed with myself when I started cutting the like 427 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: gossip out because I always thought that I didn't really 428 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: gossip about other people with my friends. It wasn't something 429 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: I did because I always found it a bit weird. 430 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: But I did listen to like podcasts or watch celebrity 431 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: documentaries about them and things like that because it interests me. 432 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: And I realized that that was where all that anxiety 433 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: was coming from. Because I was watching other people people. 434 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: I was still engaging in gossip because it was someone 435 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: that wasn't that person talking about that person, or even 436 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: like when you scroll on Instagram or Facebook and those 437 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: articles come out about things celebrities do. I used to 438 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: click into them straight away to find out what was 439 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: going on, and like, that's not good for you. So 440 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: the first change I had to actually make, because I 441 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: struggled to just like flip the switch, was I would 442 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: make myself get really happy and I almost got a 443 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: serotonin hit when I'd see something want to click into 444 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: it and then didn't. That was like my first step, 445 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: and I was so proud of myself every time I 446 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 2: went ooh, let's not like I got interested, and then 447 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: I stopped myself. And then now it's at the point 448 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: where I've completely shifted the content I've consumed. Because the 449 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: truth is, there are other mind numbing things you can 450 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: consume that are not gossip. There are plenty of amazing 451 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 2: comedy shows and podcasts and things you can listen to 452 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: where people are people will make you laugh just as 453 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: much as the gossip podcasts, but it's not about someone else. 454 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: And I think because it is, there can be a 455 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: fine line because like you said, I'm also very interested 456 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: in people's stories. Yeah, I think people's stories is really 457 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: what lights me up and expands me. So I love 458 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: listening to celebrity stories I love listening to people doing 459 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: different things and whether they succeed or not. And we 460 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: know the difference. We know the different energy of having, 461 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, a podcast or entertaining a conversation where you're 462 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: talking about something that feels expensive. It's literally going to 463 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: feel expensive in your body, like you're going to feel 464 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: inspired and motivated, compared to talking about someone in a 465 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: judgmental way, like you're going to know. So it's not 466 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: like you just can't listen to anything ever, it's just 467 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: about having an awareness piece because again, what you think 468 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: is judgmental or not, it's going to be different for 469 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: different people. Like I'm not here to judge you specifically now, 470 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: but it's like, so you've got to figure it out. 471 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: But I just really wanted to bring this awareness because 472 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a problem. I didn't think 473 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: there was any issues. And again it's because it's not 474 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: like I was engaging and I was like, you know, 475 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: talking to friends and be like yeah, and that person 476 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: did that and she's so embarrassing, Like yeah, I would 477 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: never be speaking like that. Of course, not like I'm 478 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not that sort of person. But it 479 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: was just really interesting how it would seep into different 480 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: things and different yeah, whether it's it's podcasts or reality 481 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: TVs or even conversations, and just yeah, kind of understanding 482 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: and having awareness of how it makes you feel. Because also, 483 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: I do truly believe it's like when you do gossip 484 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: or engage in that behavior, it might feel good at 485 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: the time, but then after it doesn't feel good. 486 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: It feels so shit. 487 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, why did I say that? Why did 488 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I get And that actually happened to me the other day. Yeah, 489 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: and I just thought, oh, that's so interesting that, not 490 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: that I engaged in something, but I just was like, oh, 491 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: I was really interested in that. And it was like 492 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: just with the team and they were talking about something, 493 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, trending on TikTok. 494 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. And in the moment, 495 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I swear she said she cut I know. 496 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: And then after I was like, oh my god, why 497 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: did I get involved in that? And ask questions because 498 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: and see that's what I mean, It's like it feels natural. 499 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: But then I was like after, I was like, oh, 500 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: why did I get? Like yeah, why did I you know? 501 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: And it was like it was harmless. Yeah, But again it's. 502 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: Like and we won't even saying anything bad. 503 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: No, yeah, not at all. And I just thought it 504 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: was so interesting. But it's also I truly believe we 505 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: only have a certain amount of like energy space in 506 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: our fa field. So it's kind of like, what conversations 507 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: do you want to be having? Do you want to 508 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: see a friend and talk about what a celebrity's fucking 509 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: doing or not that's like the fucked up? Or do 510 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: you want to see a friend and talk about your dreams? 511 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: And like, shit, that lights you up because you only 512 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: have a certain amount of time, you only have in 513 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: a certain amount of space. So it's like if you 514 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: choose to have those conversations, like cool, but maybe just 515 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: have a look about what you're entertaining, what's in your life, 516 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: because I have noticed such a shift specifically in my 517 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: inner piece, in the people that I like am surrounded by, 518 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: and it's so crazy. It's not crazy, but it fucking 519 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: makes sense. As soon as I stopped entertaining those conversations 520 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: listening to that certain media, the piece that I felt 521 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: internally and it's just because I stopped judging other people. 522 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: My internal dialogue is like completely different. 523 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: And now, yeah, and so you stopped judging yourself, and 524 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: so you just get fucking happier and you get more peaceful, 525 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, God, life is good. Yeah, it literally is. 526 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: And the other big difference I noticed was I think 527 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: you brought it up last year of how you love 528 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: to be over generous with what you think of other people. Yes, 529 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: and that's just like my natural state now, Yes, in 530 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: that if someone does something that's a bit out of 531 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: the norm, my head doesn't even go, oh, how weird. 532 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's so cool that they're doing it that way. 533 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: That's a permission slip for me to do it exactly 534 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: how I want to, even if it's not the way 535 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: the person before me did it, and even if it's 536 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: not quote unquote the best or most efficient way, Like 537 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: that's what I find fun, So why shouldn't I and 538 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: love that? Life just so much better living that way? 539 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: And also, you know what I find is the best. Like, 540 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: if you're in a conversation with someone and they start 541 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: like gossiping and you can kind of see the conversation 542 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: going down there, and you don't want to be blunt 543 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: and be like, I don't gossip. Instead, what I do 544 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: now to diffuse the situation is like come back with 545 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: something over generous and really positive. So it's like they 546 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: might say something and then I'll be like, yeah, but 547 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: they're probably you know, doing the best they can with 548 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: what they have, and they're probably seeking help and blah 549 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: blah blah. And honestly, as soon as you go high, 550 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the person usually has no option but to meet you there. Yeah, 551 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: because if you go high and then they go lower again, 552 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: it's just like so awkward, awkward, and they're going to 553 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: and look, they might do it, go higher and see 554 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: what happens, because eventually they're going to feel so disconnected 555 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: to you that they're not going to continue or they're 556 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: just like not gonna vibe because you're not entertaining their conversation. 557 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: So they're like, fuck it, I will talk to someone 558 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: else about it exactly. And that's something that's been really 559 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: helpful for me, is like being over generous and also 560 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: like I just think in life giving people like the 561 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: over generous interpretation because again, you only like let's say 562 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: you hear story about someone or like whatever, it's like 563 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: it's one it's always one sided. Yeah, it's always one fact. 564 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: You don't know what that person's going through. Like again 565 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: how would you want people to perceive you with You 566 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: want them to be over generous with you and give 567 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: you the benefit of the doubt. Of course. Yeah, I've 568 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: been through so many seasons when I wasn't my best 569 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: self and I haven't acted in the best way. And 570 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: it's like if my life was bloody on a screen 571 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: or put onto a microscope, you would you would find 572 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: those and it's like, I would hope that you are 573 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: over generous with me, and you're like, oh, look, but 574 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: then look what happened after or like she was clearly 575 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: going through a rough time or that sort of thing. Yeah, 576 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: and so it's like giving other people what you would 577 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: want to give yourself. And when you live in an 578 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: energy and state of that, again, it creates so much peace. 579 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you this is even like a whole 580 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: of the rant, but again controversial. The most anxious people 581 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: watch fucking crime documentaries. 582 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? 583 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: I've seen so many people on Instagram who openly say 584 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: they're highly anxious and they're they're watching fucking documentaries of 585 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: like the most. 586 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: Disgusting things humans beings can do to each other, So of. 587 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Course triggering more anxiety, Like if you're normalizing it's normal 588 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: for people to act in disgusting ways and do disgusting things, 589 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: like of course your subconscious is going to be like, yeah, 590 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: well you should be scared, you should be anxious. People 591 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: are psychos. Yeah, And that's like I don't watch scary movies, 592 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't watch crime documentaries. I don't watch true crime 593 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: documentaries because I'm like, honestly, my nervous system does not 594 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: need that, know, And it's so funny. I literally yeah, 595 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: the exact thing happened the other day when someone said 596 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: they were highly anxious, and then a couple of stories later, 597 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: I saw their watching true crime, and I just thought, this. 598 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: Is why you're highly anxious. 599 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: But it's like, just the reality is is who you're around, 600 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: what you consume, is going to affect your nervous system. 601 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: It's going to affect how you see the world, how 602 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: you your internal dialogue works, how internally you work. So 603 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: start taking responsibility, start taking like ownership for it. And 604 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: again at the start, me and a tea found it 605 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: a little bit difficult. 606 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: It is hard because you're like, this was like a 607 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: part of my rooms, a bit of fun, you know, it's. 608 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Just a bit of fun. But it's not. Yeah. Well, 609 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing is if you want to live your 610 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: life with that internal dialogue and that internal like shame 611 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: and guilt and those emotions constantly being in your energy field, 612 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: like go right ahead, who are we to judge? Yeah, 613 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: but if you do notice that you constantly judge yourself, 614 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: that you judge others, this will be such an amazing 615 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: step to step out of that. Or if you you're 616 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: constantly in fear to make moves, to move forward, to 617 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: do different, to do life differently, this would be such 618 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: an amazing step for you. 619 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: And I think, like become very aware of how the 620 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: content you'd consume makes you feel. Yeah, that's a really 621 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: big lesson I learned. Aside from like just the gossip, 622 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: but even think about some of the fiction shows you watch, 623 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: or like the drama shows you watch. Like I'd love 624 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 2: to ask you, how did you feel when you watched 625 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: Handmaid's Tale? 626 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to tell you. So I 627 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: watched that. 628 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: It was like last year sometime, I think it was 629 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: honestly this time last year. 630 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got so like engrossed because it was 631 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: so addictive and but it made me feel like I 632 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: thought about it a lot, like you know, it's like 633 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: running in your head because it's so fucked up. Yeah, 634 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: and then you know what's funny. I'm so glad you 635 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: brought this up. I got back on my stand subscription 636 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: because they're selling Tim Wanto to watch on there, and 637 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: I saw that like season five was out of that 638 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: and I watched the first episode and then after I 639 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: said to Tim, I was like, holy shit, like I 640 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: actually feel gross. Yeah, I actually have got the biggest 641 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: dick and I'm not watching the rest of the season. 642 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: And he was like, honestly, thank god, because I hate 643 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: that show. He's like, it's weird, but it's so funny 644 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: that literally happened the other day. 645 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 646 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm talking on the weekend. 647 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a lesson I learned because 648 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: I watched this one show that was created to make 649 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: awareness about a specific issue, and I got through the 650 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: first season, and I honestly binged the first season, so 651 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: I watched it in a day, and I feel like 652 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: when you binge something, you don't realize how much of 653 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: a long term effect it has on you. But when 654 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: the second season dropped, I couldn't binge it, and I 655 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: was watching it like week to week, and I actually 656 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: felt depressed, like I felt very anxious, very sad, like 657 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: the world was ending. Yeah, and I had to stop. 658 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: And as soon as I stopped watching the second season, 659 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: I was fine. And it was it was that show. 660 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: It was that mentality, was that energy that was just 661 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: like consistently being drawn out through the weeks. Even though 662 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: the intention behind creating it was good, it did not 663 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: sit well with me at all, and I had to stop. 664 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: So I think, like, people, you as much as we 665 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: have said in this episode, like the reality TV all 666 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, be careful with it, but also 667 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: be careful about the other stuff that you might not 668 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: actually be going. This is really bad for me. 669 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: You know what I would think of, like, for example, well, 670 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: if you don't have a daughter, but it's like, would 671 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: I want Ivy to watch this? You know, like would 672 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I want a two year old? Maybe not a two 673 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: year old, but it's like, would I want a young 674 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: child to watch this and have this to have this 675 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: thought provoking thing in their head? Would I want that? 676 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: And that's why, like you never let children watch scary 677 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: movies because you're like, fuck, I don't want them to 678 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: like have nightmare. Yeah, but then as adults we like 679 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: completely entertained. 680 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: Apparently you're fine. 681 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just I think it's a really interesting 682 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: topic to think about. Or it's even like again, this 683 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: is like a whole other rant, but it's like you know, 684 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: older people who constantly watch the news, like again controversial, 685 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: but like during COVID, my mum was the worst. 686 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: I was terrible, I admit it during COVID, yeah, but 687 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: she was like I was glued, Yeah, she was. I 688 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: was in that Facebook group everything. 689 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: She was like sending all the kids certain stuff and 690 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: it was so full on and I was like, Mum, look, 691 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: it's important to be aware, but like also you need 692 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: to stop because like I could see her mental health 693 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: like deteriorating, and she was so forceful and like so 694 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: full on, and I was like, you need to gell 695 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: because obviously like the world was ending, like it was 696 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: an actual situation of that. Yeah, but it's like I 697 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: could tell it's just like her mental state during it 698 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: was like wild. And yeah, it's like you know how 699 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 1: you can get really wrapped up in things. 700 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: One question to end, Yeah, how can we cut out 701 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 2: gossip in a world that thrives on it? And almost 702 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: functions on it. 703 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. Well, I think it's much 704 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: what you said and we were saying before, is like 705 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: training your brain to instead of having the serotonin hit 706 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: where you read the gossip and find something out about 707 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: that person or judge that person, is training your brain 708 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: of not needing to know that information because it's like 709 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 1: so irrelevant to you, or diffusing the situation, being over 710 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: generous of like that interpretation of that person, or just 711 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: like deciding of like I only have a certain amount 712 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: of like space to care about things. Do I want 713 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: to care about this? 714 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that? 715 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any other tips? 716 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: I would say in the beginning, my top tip would 717 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: be awareness and almost just even if you can't bring 718 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: yourself to cut anything out yet, ask yourself, after you've 719 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: listened to a podcast, or watched a TV show, or 720 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: read a news article or even just looked at someone's 721 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 2: Instagram post, how did that make me feel? What emotion 722 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: do I feel right now? If I had a kid, 723 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: or if I was eleven years old, would I be 724 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 2: wanting to watch that? What did I learn from this? 725 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: And if you're not feeling really good about your answers, 726 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: take that as you're signed to like cut cut that down. Yeah, 727 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: and just keep doing that over and over and over 728 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: again until you get to the point where you're like, 729 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 2: within the first five seconds you can put a TV 730 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 2: show and go not for me off. 731 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah, awareness is such a huge piece, 732 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: and just be aware about like certain people and what 733 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: conversations you're having, because I guarantee you there's certain people 734 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: in your life where you entertain it more, where you 735 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: gossip more, where you like get into that you know, 736 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: you get into that conversation of judging others and just 737 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: really notice how you feel, you know, with that person 738 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: talking about that thing, and just be like, is this 739 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: something I want to continue? Is this something I want 740 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: to entertain? Because again, if you diffuse that situation and 741 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: you're not coming to the table, that conversation wouldn't continue. 742 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: So it is also taking ownership of like, oh what 743 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: am I getting out of this? 744 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 745 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: All right, my loves So, yeah, I know this is 746 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: a really interesting episode when we felt really cooled to 747 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: talk about it, We would love to know your thoughts 748 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: in the Facebook group, so come and join us. And yeah, 749 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much 750 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of the Rise and Conker podcast. 751 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed it and want more, come connect with 752 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Riseinconquer dot podcast and join our 753 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: Facebook discussion group, a Rise and Concer podcast community. We're 754 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: an independent podcast and we have a small team, so 755 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: we do appreciate your time and support. If you have 756 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: a spare moment, a follow or subscribe on whatever platform 757 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: you listen to would be so amazing, And look, if 758 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: you're feeling extra kind, a review on Apple Podcasts would 759 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: be great.