1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: My name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr the 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before we 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: and lasting impact for tomorrow. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 4: Millennials who Want Financial Freedom. My name is Jessica Ricky, 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 4: and today I have financial expert Victoria Devine. Hello, we're 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 4: here to talk about ETFs in their performance. 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she is pum Yeah. 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: I got to do research for this and I have 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 4: brought it to the table with the end of the 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 4: year at our doorstep and with how many of our 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: community are now on their own investing journeys. Today on 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 4: the show, we wanted to do a wrap of the 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: five best performing asx ETFs from the last financial year. 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we use a stretch. I really wanted to 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: do that this. Jessica Ricci was. 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know about that content, and I was like, 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 4: I really want to do the content, and I feel 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: like there is might be niche. But there is a 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: group of people who really like this content too, because 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: last time we did one last year it kind of 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: blew up in my DMS and people like, oh my gosh, 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: thank you so much for talking about these or thanks 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: so much for having more honest, open conversations about ETFs 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: an actual product. 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to do this today. 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: Before we get into it, I know we've said it 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: a million time, but in case this is the first 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: episode you've ever listened to, and ETF is a basket 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: of shares, is how Victoria ax refreshed. She's a little basket. 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: Might be Wiker that's in at the moment, it might 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: be kin, it might be a picnic basket, but it 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: is a basket of lots of different assets that give 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: you instant diversification. But to go to your point, jess 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: that you just made if this is your first Cheese 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 4: on the Money episode, fantastic, welcome to our family. We 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: are so excited to have you. But quick fact check here. 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: If you're not on your investing journey yet, or maybe 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: investing feels completely overwhelming, this episode is definitely going to 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: make that worse. So I would go back and listen 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: to one of our two investing series that will give 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: you the basics of absolutely everything you know, so when 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: you listen to this, it doesn't sound overwhelming. And then 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: for this She's on the Money community that are absolutely 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 4: across this one. We're really excited to do this. But two, 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: don't feel overwhelmed. If you're like, oh, she's talking about 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: stuff I've never heard. We are just going to make 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 4: it common knowledge. We are going to talk about these 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: things more often on the She's on the Money pod 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: this year and next year, because I just think there's 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: lots of change going on at the moment, and it 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: makes it so much easier for us to be able 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 4: to openly and honestly talk about product and just have 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: a good band about what it means and how it works. 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: And I think that these types of conversations are quite constructive. 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: When you guys are picking assets that are going to 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: go into your portfolio in saying that before I really 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: get into the crux of the five ETFs that I'm 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: going to present to you today, Miss Jesso Ricci, in 69 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: true compliance form, Jessica, past performance is not a reliable 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: predictor of future performance, and you should seek personal financial 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 4: advice should you wish to make a decision based upon 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 4: any information that you hear today. Yeah, and this is 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: something we touched on last year, which I think is 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: really worth saying. Just because it was the top performing 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: product doesn't. 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Mean it will be again. 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't mean we're again, but it also doesn't 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: mean it's the right product for you. I think as 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: we go through these people are going to see a 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: bit of a common theme and it's something that may 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: not align with a lot of people's values. And you know, 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: we spoke about this in an earlier investing series, and 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: investing is such a personal thing that the performance of 84 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: the fund is only one element that people would be 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: considering and there are so many other factors. So this 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: definitely isn't us saying these are the five things you 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: should invest in. It's just a really fun review of 88 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: the year that was. It's also really interesting because the 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: world has changed quite significantly since last year when we 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: talked about ETFs, and in June we entered what's called 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: a bear market, or a bear market is when officially 92 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: the shared market drops by a minimum of twenty percent 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: from the last twelve months all time high. And I 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: feel like coming out of COVID when it's not really 95 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: out of COVID, but you guys know what I mean. 96 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 4: As we're coming out of COVID and going back to 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: like kind of business as usual. There were a number 98 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: of different industries that like smashed it. Like remember when 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: we did that ETF episode jets, Like every single ETF 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: that we presented had like a really really high return, 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my gosh, and this and this, 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: and there was like some tech companies and some biopharmaceutical companies, 103 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: and it was just really interesting. Now having gone through 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: all of that and having experienced what we've experienced, the 105 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: performance is not nearly as high as it was, But 106 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting to kind of listen to 107 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: episodes like this, and if you're interested, maybe go back 108 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: and listen to that episode and see what the market 109 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: was like twelve months ago. In the types of conversations 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: we were having because politically, economically, and just literally the 111 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: world is a different place today and the types of 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: ETFs that performed really well in the last financial year 113 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: are very different to the ones that performed well in 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: the financial year before that, and there's really good reasons 115 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 4: for that, and I guess we'll get into the nitty 116 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: gritty and the conversation around that as we go through it, Jess. Yeah, 117 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: and last thing to throw in there before we jump 118 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: into the list itself is these were the best performing 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: ASX ETFs, so they had to be listed on the 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: Australian Securities Exchange to be considered for this list. 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Get questions. I was going to say, waking into. 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: It, absolutely to give a little bit of what would 123 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: you call it here? Just housekeeping housekeeping here these are 124 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 4: all ASX listed shares and it is post management and 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: performance fees. Obviously, if you are on a different platform, 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: there might be platform fees that you personally need to 127 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: take into consideration, but this is what the ETF reported 128 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: directly post all of their fees taken out, So I 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: think that's a great place to start, Jess. And as always, 130 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: we're clearly going to go five to one because I'm 131 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: not going to give you the biggest performing ETF upfront, 132 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: am I. 133 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Now, I gotta work for it. No, you've got to 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: work for it. You gotta wait for the break. 135 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: You've gotta go through our advertising because that's how I 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: pay Jess. 137 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Guys, that's important. I lack money. 138 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: Let's kick things off with number five VD. 139 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: What have you got? 140 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: All right? 141 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: So coming in at number five, we have the beta 142 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: shares Global Agricultural Companies ETF and the ticker code. So 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: I feel like ticker code is something I've only just 144 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: started talking about. It's definitely not new in this world. 145 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: But you know the little code that the ASX use 146 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: to like identify a share, it's called a ticker code. 147 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: Go figure. Because the ticker board, so you know, you 148 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 4: would have seen the pictures like yeah, real old school, 149 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: they will have stre exactly, so the boards on the 150 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 4: walls that would like tick over the performance. It's the 151 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 4: ticker because obviously they weren't going to write Beta shares 152 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: Global Agricultural Company ATF what they were going to do. 153 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 4: And I really like this ticker code. It's food that's clever. Yes, 154 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: so funny. Anyway, So the first fun that we're looking 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: at today is basically exactly what it says in the title. 156 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: It is a global agricultural company is ETF. So as 157 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: we said, this is an ASX listed ETF, but that 158 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's only got Australian shares in it, right. 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: Food is an agricultural based ETF that tracks a whole 160 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: heap of food producing companies from around the world, so 161 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: you might have heard of a whole heap of the 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: companies in there. You've got Tyson Foods and Archer Daniels 163 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: Midland and Deer and Co. And Food because it's way 164 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: more fun to just refer to it as it's ticker code, 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: because it's got a good one. Gave investors a total 166 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: of three point five percent return over the twenty twenty 167 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: two financial year, which honestly looks pretty good if you 168 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: compare it to our top performing ASX shares. Really interesting 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: the difference between the bottom performing at the top five 170 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: this year versus last year made it into the top 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: five jests, yeah, with only three point five percent last 172 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: year's bottom five, like number five. 173 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Was trying to say. 174 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: It came in at thirty nine point three two exactly 175 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: right like last year was absolutely insane and I think, 176 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: and like I can't remember because it was a while ago. 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: I would have been like, guys, this is so irregular, 178 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: like it is not common. But you've got to remember 179 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: that a lot of the shares that were on that 180 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: top list actually were shares that had performed insanely well 181 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: over COVID, and COVID was kind of like an outlier 182 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: for what economic performance actually looked like. So people were like, 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, now we're going to get on it. 184 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: Like remember how Zoom had that like massive influx of users, 185 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: because it just made sense. Yeah, you don't often see 186 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: such crazy performance in the share market, but it was 187 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: obviously quite responsive to the times we were going through. 188 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: And now we've kind of come off a little bit. 189 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: We're in a bear market. You know. There is talk 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: from a lot of politicians and a lot of economists 191 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: that we are on the way to some form of session. 192 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: So obviously the market's going to have pulled back a 193 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: little bit and be a little bit tighter with their 194 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: purse string. So performance this year isn't looking nearly as 195 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: sexy as it was last year. Yeah. Well, as someone 196 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: whose portfolio is largely in the red, it's kind of 197 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: like any kind of positive return is a great thing, 198 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: so I can see why it's scraping in at three 199 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: point five Does this make you like, when we have 200 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: this conversation and I say, Jess, when we're talking about 201 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: the top five ETFs and number five is at three 202 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 4: point five percent, does that make you feel slightly better 203 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: about looking at your own portfolio and going, Okay, well, 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: you know that isn't as good compared to last year. 205 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: Does that give you more context or I guess confidence? Yeah? 206 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: I think so. 207 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: I think looking at this list, the numbers seem a 208 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: lot more reasonable compared to last year's, which was you know, 209 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: entry point of almost forty percents and I'm to almost 210 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: ninety I think it was. It definitely makes it seem 211 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: a lot smarter. I think I'm not feeling too anxious 212 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: because we've done so much groundwork this year about understanding 213 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: the cycles of the market and understanding that you know, 214 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: you're not always going to be doing super well and 215 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: that's totally fine. It about time in the market, not 216 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: timing the market. Yes, Queen, you're like, maybe me, you 217 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: just spit out all the stuff I say, and I 218 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: love it. 219 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I sound exactly I love it. 220 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: I love it. I would wear that outfit though, So 221 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: that's good. It's cute. We almost matched sometimes, if that's okay, 222 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: All right, back on track, Victoria, what came in at 223 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: number four? Okay, so number four is the Van Neck 224 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: Australian Resources ETF not as sexy of a ticker code 225 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 4: this time, I do apologize. The ticker code is mv R, 226 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: and I can't even think of a cute acronym or 227 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: something that suits that, so. 228 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: We just move on from that. 229 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: Pick ticer because like food makes sense global Agriculture. MVR 230 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: isn't even an abbreviation of the title. Yeah, usually it 231 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: is an abbreviation of the title, but sometimes if an 232 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: abbreviation already exists, they will just pick something that makes 233 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: sense for that fund. And the V I'm assuming stance 234 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: for Van Neck and it might be like something vanic Resources. 235 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't actually know off the top of my head 236 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: what that particular one is. But often because there are 237 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: so many big companies on the list, they double krinom 238 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: might no, no, no, they won't double up. They will 239 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: make you pick a different ticker code. So like you know, 240 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 4: if you're going to go with like Rio, tinto. Right, 241 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: they've already got Rio. So if Rio Underwear wanted to 242 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: list on the ASX, they would have to come up 243 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 4: with a different ticker code. It's like Instagram names and 244 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: all the good ones are taken and you have to 245 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: do it like a dot or an understor Right, there's 246 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: an underscore in my name because there's a woman in 247 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: the US called Victoria Devine and she's like a pr 248 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 4: person and woman. You've got all of my usernames. Cut 249 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: this out, rude. I couldn't even get the TikTok name. 250 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: When TikTok started to become a thing, I was like, 251 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: this is my time to shine. 252 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get Victoria Devine. 253 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: I did not. I still had to use my underscore. 254 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: She was too speedy. Tell me more speedy about MVR. 255 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: This fund holds ASX shares, So it's Australian only, which 256 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: I mean is probably pretty obvious given it's called the 257 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: Australian Resources ETF, but only in the resources sector. So 258 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: when we talk about the resources sector, that's like energy 259 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: and fuel, and we are talking about oil and petrol 260 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: and petroleum production and stuff like that. So this one's 261 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: a little bit debated. Because there are obviously going to 262 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: be people on either side of the fence, people who 263 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: are like yes, investing resources, and then people who are 264 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: like no, it's unethical, Like that's not aligned to my values. 265 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: This episode is not about your values. This is just 266 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: about hey, here are the top five performing ones. Obviously, 267 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: you guys know that I'm probably more aligned to an 268 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 4: ethical portfolio because that's just where my values sit. But honestly, 269 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 4: you do you boo. Australia is known for its resources 270 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: production and export. And as an Australian who is also 271 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: an investor and somebody who I would say knows the 272 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: shere market pretty well, a lot of our performance does 273 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: come from resources. Because you think about our main exports, like, 274 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: we aren't the type of country who you know exports massive, 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 4: massive amounts of corn or like do you know what 276 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: I mean? Like you know New Zealand to the export shape. Great, 277 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: they don't have as many resources as us, but with 278 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: the amount of land we have, it kind of makes 279 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: sense that the world relies on us for that. 280 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: So you can't just cut. 281 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: That sector out comempletely anyway. Complete side note, they hold 282 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: some pretty big names. So I mentioned Rio before. That's 283 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: a good place to start. Rio is in that portfolio. 284 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: Then there's BHP, which everybody would know, and Woodside Energy Group, 285 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: which is again a really popular name. So essentially the 286 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: Vanick Australian Resources ETF managed to give a total return 287 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: Jessica of a very exciting five percent over the twenty 288 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: twenty two financial year for its investors. 289 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: Five percent. 290 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: Given I know it's only a small portion of portfolio, 291 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: but given how freaking expensive petrol has been this rude, right, 292 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: and given that BHP sits in that portfolio, I'm really 293 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: surprised that it's only five percent. 294 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised at the amount of return. 295 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that they've made this list because I 296 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: was like, okay, cool, they're absolutely turning a profit. But 297 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: in saying that, a lot of companies are not just 298 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: exporting their importing. So as we know, BEHP are absolutely 299 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: an importer as well as an exporter, and that means 300 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: that they are having to pay the fuel prices that 301 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: the UAE are setting for us, so not every single 302 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: discount actually gets past to us because sometimes it has 303 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: to be absorbed into the cost. So I think that 304 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense. But at the same time, 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: it's kind of a joke. 306 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 307 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 308 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: Also, while we're chatting about it, Rio is a really 309 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: controversial share and sometimes that comes up in our comments section. 310 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: Can you run me and everybody listening through the why. 311 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there. 312 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: I mean, predominantly I would say it's their desecration of 313 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: Aboriginal sacred land and that makes me really mad. And 314 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: then er shareholders blasted Rio recently over board exodus, so 315 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: basically their entire board just yeat it out of there, 316 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: And James Packer basically said that the resignation of all 317 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: three independent directors under pressure from Rio reeks of something 318 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: terribly wrong. So there's a lot of skepticism in addition 319 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 4: to the fact that they are in the resources sector, 320 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: so people already looking at them as like, what are 321 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: you doing for the environment? How does that work? And yeah, 322 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: it's just a bit of a spicy topic. And historically 323 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: their share prices have been very ebby and very flowy, 324 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: Like I remember back in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, 325 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: there was like a fifty percent drop in their share prices. 326 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: When I was talking to clients, like obviously portfolios I 327 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: hadn't written, but talking to clients about what they held, 328 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: and it's always just been a little bit controversial, a 329 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: little bit topical from my perspective. I just think that resources, 330 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: I understand it, I respect that it exists. I respect 331 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: that it really holds up a lot of our economy. 332 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: So we can't just you know, evict it from the 333 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: country and say, oh, we shouldn't do that. But what 334 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: can we do to be more respectful? What can we 335 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: do to help climate change? What can we do to 336 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: you know, rebuild the Great Barrier reef? And there are 337 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: actually a number of different resource companies that if you're 338 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: interested in being exposed to resources, we only want to 339 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: be exposed to resources who are also. 340 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Trying to help the community. 341 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: I think that's a really good space to have a 342 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: conversation in as well. And I won't get into it now, 343 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: but yeah, Reo, it wouldn't be one of them, all right, 344 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: I reckon, we've got time for one more before we 345 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: go to a quick break. 346 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: What is sitting at number three? 347 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: All right? Less spicy than talking about resources? Just is 348 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: the SMP five hundred high yield low volatility ETF and 349 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: its ticker code absolutely makes no sense. It's z y 350 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: us us. 351 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: Zeus so us. I mean that makes me want to 352 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: buy it now. 353 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: Apart from its performance, I mean, this performance is okay, 354 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: but there's obviously two more better ones coming after the break. 355 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: But essentially, this ETF is really income focused. So it's 356 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: a fund that tries to track a select group of 357 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: US companies that are picked to maximize income, money win, 358 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: but also minimize risk or volatility that it is exposed to. 359 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: So that's, from my perspective, pretty sexy. Whoever's organizing that 360 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: sounds good. So you might know some of its current holdings, 361 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: and a lot of its holdings, from my perspective, are 362 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: actually kind of like in Australia we call them blue 363 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: chip stocks. I would say blue chip. They're tried, they're true, 364 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: they're tested, they've existed for a lot of years. So 365 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: for example, the technology company IBM, So you would have 366 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: heard of IBM, you would have heard of Chevron, you 367 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: would have heard of craft. Heins like that makes and 368 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: it might not be something that you recognize, Jess. But 369 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: Philip Morris International, do you know what that is? 370 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: No idea? 371 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: You probably haven't heard of it before, and it makes 372 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: sense because you don't smoke. They are a cigarette company, 373 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: and they are arguably the most recognized and best selling 374 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: international cigarette company. Marlborough Marlborough. 375 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, I'm not very heard at that. 376 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: It's never picked up a dart in my life. But 377 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: I find it really interesting. And I'm not trying to 378 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: give them credit. I just really like creeping on products. 379 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: But get this. 380 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: They are and were the biggest multinational tobacco company in 381 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: the US, with their products sold in more than one 382 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty companies. And now if you google that company, 383 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: the description of their company is get this, Jessica. We're 384 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: building Philip Morris International's future on smoke free products that 385 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: are a better choice than cigarette smoking that goes in 386 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: direct conflict to the product that they sell. That's interesting 387 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: because they still produce the Ciggi's Baby. Yeah, Like they're 388 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: still taking most of their money off that, but they're 389 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: literally changing their focus because they know that the future 390 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: maybe doesn't include them, and they're trying to be on 391 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: that train. And I think that's really interesting. Is that 392 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 4: green washing or is that No, that's not green washing. 393 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: I think that that's a business identifying that they have 394 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: limited time left before they'll either be made illegal or 395 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: redundant or you know, drop in sales. Like here in Australia, 396 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: we know that the tax on cigarettes has absolutely been 397 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 4: astronomical for good reason. It's to deter people from purchasing it. 398 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: It's not because the government's trying to make more money. 399 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: They're just trying to make it more inaccessible, which makes sense. 400 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: But that leads to a decrease in people buying their product, 401 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: which means they have to also up their prices. So 402 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: I think it's just honestly, cigarettes are dying, and I'm 403 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 4: not mad about it anyway. I just find that interesting 404 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: about Philip Morris International because it's just nice to know 405 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 4: stuff about stuff, right. But zeus or US, which is 406 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: the S and P five hundred high Yield Low Volatility 407 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: etf I much prefers use manage to give all of 408 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 4: its investors a twenty twenty two financial year return of 409 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 4: twelve point seven percent. 410 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: Jessica, the concept. 411 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 4: Of a high yield low volatility very appealing, very sexy. 412 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: It may be sexy. Twelve point seven percent is not 413 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: bad either. 414 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: It's not bad, and I mean I would question like 415 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: I just feel like Philip Morris obviously exists. I'm like, oh, 416 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: is it really low volatility? There's so much risk. Yeah, 417 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: there's so much risk from me as a non smoker 418 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: because I'm like, that's going to be dead soon. But 419 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: addiction is what is driving their performance, so it's really 420 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: not going that far that fast. So that's why I'm 421 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 4: also super interested to see that they've changed their mission 422 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: statement because it's like, well, is that really what we're 423 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: working towards? Are you're going to protect your profits and 424 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 4: make yourselves look good. It's not green washing because they 425 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: are doing that, but it's also just, I don't know, 426 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: a little bit controversial. 427 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Ah, super interesting. 428 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: Alrighty, let's go to a really quick break because we're 429 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: going to make you wait to learn about those top 430 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: two Baby, don't go anywhere. 431 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. 432 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: Today we are reviewing the top five forming ETFs if 433 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty one twenty twenty two financial Yeah, we 434 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: just got through numbers five to three, and now we've 435 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: saved the two best for us. That's true best because 436 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: like we're about to talk about a fuel ETF so 437 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: performing Yeah, like we didn't take ethics into consideration, and 438 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: I mean I thought about this. I was thinking when 439 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: we're scripting this jests and just like pulling together all 440 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: the research. I was like, maybe we should do like 441 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: the top performing ethical ETFs, but like ethical means something 442 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: different to literally everybody, and there's no way of me 443 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: pulling together a top performing ethical ETF list without it 444 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: becoming a recommendation, because then I would have to say, oh, 445 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: I believe this is ethical, and that's not the case 446 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: here in Australia. 447 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: You just can't do that. 448 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: So till we have that, maybe we could do like 449 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: a top ESG investing portfolio or something. 450 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: Yes, but I mean slide into our. 451 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: DMS and let us know what you want, because we 452 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: really like not having to think of our own topics 453 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: and really like being spoon fed. But speaking of spoonfed, 454 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: I went to the a Sex website and took the 455 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: top five performing ETFs of twenty twenty two's financial year, 456 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: and now I'm presenting them to you guys. 457 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: As if I did all the work. 458 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: Myself, you still a little bit of the work, got 459 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of the work he ASX did most 460 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: of it. But so number two we've got the Beta 461 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: Shares Global Energy Company's ETF, which has the ticker code 462 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: Jess fuel. 463 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh tell me more, what does that contain? 464 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: Just press that they got that, Like what a good 465 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: ticker code. So basically, this is really similar to the 466 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: first ETF that we talked about. So we talked about 467 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: the Beta Shares Global Agricultural Fund, which was the ASX 468 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: ticker code food. Now we're talking about the ASX ticker 469 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: code Fuel. So I would argue that Beta shares are 470 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: the most creative and kind of witty when it comes 471 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: to mating their ASX ticker codes. But this fund, in contrast, 472 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 4: actually holds a diversified range of global energy shares rather 473 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: than agricultural ones. So once again we see Chevron here. 474 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 4: Again Chevron is a really big oil and resources company. 475 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: But then we see like Mobile and Royal, Dutch Shell 476 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: and BP, so all of the big names that if 477 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: I said, Jess, you're on, like the price is right, 478 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: what are the top five fuel companies? You probably put 479 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: them all into this ETF. And this ETF actually really 480 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: outperformed the other three that we have already discussed because 481 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 4: over the twenty twenty two financial years, twenty seven point 482 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: nine percent return, twenty seven point nine that's sounding a 483 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 4: lot better than when we started this list at three 484 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: point five, it's just like a lot more clickbaity, right, 485 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: It's far more clickbaity than you know what it was 486 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: going to be. So I'm probably going to use this 487 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 4: to market episode. Yeah, very smart from you. Obviously, as 488 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: we said before, resources very controversial, petrol particularly, But that's 489 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: what's really frustrating about this space, right, Like when I 490 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 4: was putting together share portfolios way back when it wasn't 491 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: normal to take into consideration ethical considerations, really, I would 492 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: talk to people and it's just like a no brainer 493 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: to put resources as one of the biggest players, especially 494 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: in high net wealth share portfolios, because they just so 495 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: tried and true and kind of stable. Like historically, obviously 496 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: at the moment we are going through a pretty tumultuous time, 497 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: but historically they would just pay their dividends, do their job, 498 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 4: you know, keep bringing resources in. Like it just it 499 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: was something where old school people would just buy BEHP 500 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: because it made sense. Like I remember having one client, Jess, 501 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: and obviously I didn't on board them. It was like 502 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: a historical client that I inherited and I loved them, 503 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 4: so they passed away and their portfolio was inherited by 504 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 4: their son who ultimately became my client, and we were 505 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: talking about the portfolio and what we wanted to do, 506 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: and this son was really passionate about ethical investing, like 507 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: so passionate about the Great Barrier reef and really hated 508 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: the fact. I might have told this story on the 509 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: podcast before, but really hated the fact that he owned 510 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: BEHP because he was, like, I do so much he 511 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: does volunteering to like clean up the reef and like 512 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: you know, it donates money, and like very high networth 513 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 4: family as well. He's like, I need to get rid 514 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 4: of it. But when we went and did the analysis 515 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 4: to work out how much it would cost him to 516 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: dispose of the shares, we had to go so far 517 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: back that his shares in BHP were bought in British 518 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: pound sterling wow, back when we didn't even have Australian currency, 519 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: because his dad and then his grandfather had bought them 520 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: and obviously they were so cheap that now that he 521 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: needed to sell them, just think about those capital gains. 522 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: He was going to lose nearly half of his portfolio 523 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: just by extinguishing it and like selling down that asset 524 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: to buy something else. And when it comes to the 525 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: power of money. I mean, this is a complete side 526 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: note and a complete tangent, but like I think it's interesting. 527 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: We ended up coming to the agreement that we would 528 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: actually keep those shares because the money that that share 529 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: was making could be donated to saving the reef and 530 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: you know, having a positive impact. So even if you 531 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: own things, sometimes that's not the best idea to just 532 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: sell them down because your quote values have changed, because 533 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: the impact might be far bigger than what you can 534 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 4: do with the money that your money is making. Think 535 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: that there's just a lot to think about here, and 536 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: you know, there's absolutely no shame in what you own. 537 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: I want you to be just really happy, but there 538 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: are sometimes creative ways that we need to go round 539 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: to make sure that you are happy with the portfolio 540 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: that you have. Yeah, super interesting, not at all surprising 541 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 4: with the rising energy prices that that particular ETF did 542 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: pretty well. I'm not surprised to either, Jess. But you 543 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: know what, we have one that has come in at 544 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: over fifty percent and that is our number one performing 545 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: asx ETF of twenty twenty two's financial year. Can you 546 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: guess what space it is in I'm gonna say resource. 547 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: It is in resource is your genius. 548 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: Beta Shares have taken out three of the top spots 549 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: in this list. By the way, Ah, they've done well. 550 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: I feel like they did really well. They work upstairs 551 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: from us, Jess, they're in our office. We're basically best 552 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: friends with an ETF provider. Ten out of ten love 553 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: their work. But the Beta shares, this one doesn't sound 554 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: nearly as sexy. The Beta Shares Crude Oil Index ETF, 555 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: which has the taker CODEO ooho or if you like 556 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: kind of blow your eyes, the o's kind of get 557 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: a little bit skinnier and it's like triple zero. Please 558 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: call them because you own a crude oil ETF. But yeah, 559 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: let's not get into that. My personal opinion should not 560 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: be foreshadowing your decisions as an investor. But essentially the 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: best performing ASX ETF is the Beta Shares Crude Oil 562 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: Index ETF, and basically it's another energy focused one, which 563 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: we're not surprised about. But it's actually nothing like the 564 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: funds that we've already talked about. So instead of tracking 565 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: energy companies, it actually only invests in West Texas intermediate 566 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: crude oil futures contracts and doesn't actually hold any shares 567 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 4: within it. 568 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 569 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: Not holding any actual shares, so jess, instead of having 570 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: shares of other companies. Like before, we were talking about 571 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 4: the Beta shares global energy companies, and I listed out 572 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 4: the companies that it had shares in, So in its 573 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 4: basket it holds little pieces of other companies, whereas the 574 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: Crude Oil Index does not actually do that. It actually 575 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: only invests in crude oil futures contracts, so actual contracts, 576 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 4: so basically pieces of paper are in your ETF, and 577 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: it tracks the average and the returns of the West 578 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 4: Texas Intermediate Crude Oil futures as opposed to actual shares 579 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: that might be invested inside that. So it's actually just 580 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: futures contracts instead of shares. I didn't even know that 581 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: was a thing. It's wild what you can do with 582 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: an ETF these days. 583 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 584 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: So it has obviously been the biggest performer over the 585 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: last financial year with let's take it away with sixty 586 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: point three percent over that period of time. 587 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Wow, that is a huge amount. 588 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: I agree, But I also think it's kind of funny 589 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 4: that it's West Texas shares, so basically it's just a 590 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: benchmark that is used in trading, and there's another few. 591 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: There's the Brent Crude and there's the Dubai Omann Crude 592 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: Oil Index. So it's all quite interesting in that space. 593 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: But no, ETFs don't just necessarily have to hold shares 594 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: just they can also hold bonds, which I think is 595 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: quite interesting. But given how conservative they are, they were 596 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: never going to make it to the top five performing 597 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty twos financial year super interesting. A lot 598 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 4: of resources this year, which I feel like was not 599 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: as much the case last year. 600 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: Last year, I remember correctly, was very tech heavy. 601 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, very tech heavy because of what we've just gone 602 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: through and now think about the world coming back. If 603 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: you're getting more expensive, the war that's going on at 604 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: the moment involving Russia and Ukraine, like, there is a 605 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: lot going on in that space making oil and resources 606 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: far more valuable and people want to get their hands 607 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: on them. So it kind of makes sense that this 608 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: is the way that our top five shares are performing. 609 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: And I actually I kind of want to like speed 610 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: into the future and see what next year looks like, 611 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: because it's going to be different again, it always is. 612 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to say. 613 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 4: Imagine us sitting here in twelve months time, reviewing again 614 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: another year, and if it's like a whole different bunch 615 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: of sectors or like, it's just interesting to think about 616 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: how it can change so much in such a short 617 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: period of time. Yeah, yeah, I get it. And I 618 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: guess this is a really good example of why this 619 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 4: is not a recommendation for things that you should buy, 620 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: because the shares that we listed last year not on 621 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: this list, So if you're expecting the same performance, it's 622 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: just not going to happen. Like this is what has happened, 623 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: not what will happen. And I think this is just 624 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: like really good pieces of education because it just teaches 625 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: you a lot about one the share market and how 626 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: it performs, but also like what's the economy up to? 627 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: What does that mean when we then look at the 628 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: share market and it makes sense that the performance isn't 629 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: blowing us out of the water in the same way. 630 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: But like, mate, I'd be happy with any of those 631 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: returns at this point in time because I'm still in 632 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: the red. Yeah, same queen, but I recoonne it's about 633 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: it today. I hope you guys enjoyed this rap episode. 634 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: Let us know if there are any other categories he 635 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: likes to wrap. 636 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Last year we. 637 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: Did the top literary rap will just summarize. Yeah, we'll 638 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 4: leave the rapping to all the real wrappers. Last year, 639 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: I think we did the top five performing shares as well, 640 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: which be another fun mount if people are still keen 641 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: individual shares like we are absolutely doing that. I've got 642 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: we did that. 643 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm on it. 644 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: I'm on it. 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