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Speaker 3: A good pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura.
Speaker 4: Burn Radio work, Our windows done, that's my worldris in
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Speaker 1: I've done much now, but yeah, I'm not our big
Speaker 1: get and what I want it don't mattle where goes?
Speaker 3: This is the pickup. Hi guys, Happy Monday. It's Britt
Speaker 3: Hockey and Laura Burn here at the pickup. Do you
Speaker 3: know what I haven't figured out yet?
Speaker 5: Laura?
Speaker 1: What if we start talking when that intro is playing?
Speaker 3: Do people hear it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Gray said no, No, I just literally said I was
Speaker 1: just talking.
Speaker 3: I was like, should I have said that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Because like, there's actual people here who know how to
Speaker 2: do their jobs, and they paddl us properly.
Speaker 1: Because usually when the intro's playing, we look at each
Speaker 1: other and we whisper to each other.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be nice to be a fly on the
Speaker 2: wall and hear all the things that don't go to
Speaker 2: air that could probably get us fired a lot of
Speaker 2: other people on Radio fire too, but you know what, look,
Speaker 2: lots of things to discuss today and I hope that
Speaker 2: you can all bear with me because I have entered
Speaker 2: a new phase of pregnancy, and that is that I
Speaker 2: have pregnancy insomnia.
Speaker 3: And I haven't slept in about two and a half days.
Speaker 1: So what does that look like for you of a
Speaker 1: night time? Are you getting little like forty minute naps?
Speaker 1: Are you're not sleeping at all?
Speaker 2: No, I go to sleep, I'm like, I'm really tired
Speaker 2: because the other the Cash twenty two of pregnancy is
Speaker 2: that it makes you completely exhausted. So I get into
Speaker 2: bed and I'm so excited for a good night's sleep.
Speaker 2: Kids are asleep and I'm in there, and then I
Speaker 2: go to sleep for like an hour, and then I'm
Speaker 2: ping And I could just lay there looking at the
Speaker 2: ceiling for two and a half hours. What is contemplating?
Speaker 2: Have I done my taxes?
Speaker 3: What about life? You know? Should I?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Are my kids drinking enough water and eating healthy? I
Speaker 3: don't know. I literally will think about the full spectrum
Speaker 3: of life in the middle.
Speaker 1: There's science behind pregnancy insomnia.
Speaker 3: They do say.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is science, but maybe it's
Speaker 2: like you're getting prepared for the terrible sleep that you're
Speaker 2: gonna have once the baby's here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't reckon that's it. I think someone's just
Speaker 1: saying that produced gray.
Speaker 2: So the case, I think it's just because I have
Speaker 2: a baby that's the size of the cabbage kicking me
Speaker 2: straight in the.
Speaker 3: Bagina Grace went on the spot.
Speaker 1: We quickly just make a Google or something. We're like,
Speaker 1: get on the case, Grace.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's hormones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, physical, hormonal and emotional changes.
Speaker 2: Great, fantastic. Well, I'm glad we got to the bottom
Speaker 2: of that. Anyway, let's get into the.
Speaker 1: Hey, Laura question. If you were to go and see
Speaker 1: like one of your favorite artists, but they said you
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to bring your phone, how would you feel?
Speaker 1: Would it bother you or to put.
Speaker 3: You off going? How are they going to police it?
Speaker 3: Is my question?
Speaker 1: Okay, well I have that answer. So this is actually
Speaker 1: happening at the moment. Sabrina Carpenter has come out. She
Speaker 1: went to a concert herself in Las Vegas to see
Speaker 1: Silk Sonic, and part of that gig was the fact
Speaker 1: that you weren't allowed to take phones, so you had
Speaker 1: to put your phone away. It was like a no
Speaker 1: phone gig. She said she's never had a better experience
Speaker 1: at a concert. She was loving it. Everyone was dancing, engaging,
Speaker 1: that was like they were back in the seventies. And
Speaker 1: she's saying, well, maybe I'm going to consider no phones
Speaker 1: at one of my future concerts.
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand the debate for it.
Speaker 2: I get it, like it must be annoying being on
Speaker 2: stage and everyone's actually just watching you and not really
Speaker 2: watching you, they're watching you through a phone.
Speaker 3: But I also think that there's there's positives to it too.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not any one of that thinks this,
Speaker 1: Like multiple people have come out in the past, John Mayer,
Speaker 1: Billie Eilish have a listened to Billy's comment.
Speaker 4: All I ask is that we all try to live
Speaker 4: in the moment and a lot of the time I'll say,
Speaker 4: put your phones away, but if you want a film,
Speaker 4: that's okay, just put it next.
Speaker 3: To your face.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Look at me in my eyes,
Speaker 4: be here, because this is the only moment we get
Speaker 4: to be in, this moment, and like we're never going
Speaker 4: to be right here this second, on this day and
Speaker 4: this age ever again. This is the only only moment
Speaker 4: we ever again ever ever.
Speaker 1: I do like it just before Laura. You said, well,
Speaker 1: I could be doing a pooh, and Laura's like, I
Speaker 1: could be on the toilet doing a poo and it
Speaker 1: will be the last moment I get to do that.
Speaker 3: Okay. I love Billie Eilish, but that's one.
Speaker 2: Of those you have to be their moments to really
Speaker 2: feel the magnitude of it, because when someone's like, it's
Speaker 2: the only moment we're going to be here, like that
Speaker 2: can be said about every second of your life.
Speaker 3: You could you could apply that logic to sitting on
Speaker 3: the toilet doing a pooge like you can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have multiple feelings about this, but I give.
Speaker 1: Me one feeling.
Speaker 2: I don't have time for multiple uncertainty.
Speaker 3: I think it's too hard to police.
Speaker 2: And my biggest issue with it is like it's okay
Speaker 2: to say, oh, look, you know, no phones or put
Speaker 2: your phones down, so then.
Speaker 3: People like socially police each other. So if someone has
Speaker 3: their phone out, it's a bit like put your phone away.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that you could like stop people
Speaker 3: from bringing a phone into a venue for a massive concert.
Speaker 3: Imagine how long those lines would be. They're already too long, Laura.
Speaker 1: There is something called a secure pouch. What's it called grace.
Speaker 1: It's a Yonder patch, that's a Yonder pouch, and this is.
Speaker 3: Like a female feminine product, Yes, pouch.
Speaker 1: So they've got these pouches where I'm imagining it's a
Speaker 1: secure patch. They can only be like locked. It can
Speaker 1: only be opened in certain parts of the venue. So
Speaker 1: maybe it's like the bar, or it's the entrance or
Speaker 1: toilet or whatever it is. But I'm imagining people line
Speaker 1: up and when you're scanning your tickets, you get a
Speaker 1: Yonder pouch.
Speaker 3: They watch you lock your.
Speaker 1: Phone in it, and then everyone knows you can't open
Speaker 1: it until you go back to this area. So you've
Speaker 1: got your phone on you, but it's not allowed to
Speaker 1: be used.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like, I sort of think it's cool.
Speaker 1: I understand why artists would say, hey, guys, surprisingly we
Speaker 1: don't want to stare at your phone, like eighty thousand
Speaker 1: phones just looking at us. We'd love to be engaging
Speaker 1: with you and seeing your reaction. Are you enjoying it? Like?
Speaker 1: Are you vibing it being the moment? But I also
Speaker 1: understand where we live in a day and age where
Speaker 1: that's also helping promote that artist totally.
Speaker 2: And I think, like it's you've got to be in
Speaker 2: a pretty privileged position to say, oh, I don't need
Speaker 2: the promotion of people and their instagrams.
Speaker 1: Like Sabrina Carpenter can say that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like most artists need their audience sharing it and like,
Speaker 2: you know, promoting it across socials and all that sins
Speaker 2: of stuff to be able to sell out venues or
Speaker 2: to get more eyes on the.
Speaker 3: Products that they're creating. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, this is not a debate. I
Speaker 2: remember it was very very obsessed with John Mayer back
Speaker 2: in about twenty thirteen, and he came out saying that
Speaker 2: constitutor is different now. He's like, I don't feel as
Speaker 2: though people are enjoying them when they're at my concerts.
Speaker 2: And then I go on social media to see how
Speaker 2: many people have shared it and what they've said about it,
Speaker 2: to actually get a gauge because people are watching me
Speaker 2: perform through a phone.
Speaker 1: Well, he actually said, funnily enough, I've got his quote here.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 1: People aren't going crazy, And I think to myself, I'm
Speaker 1: not playing a very good show, am I? And then
Speaker 1: I look out into the audience and they are going crazy,
Speaker 1: but not for me. They're applauding into the phone, so
Speaker 1: that sends back to like it must feel really hard.
Speaker 1: Imagine how insecure they are. It's like the John Mayer
Speaker 1: who was huge, and he's still on stage being like,
Speaker 1: oh god, these guys aren't enjoying this, Like no one's laughing, clapping, cheering, celebrating.
Speaker 1: They're just looking into their screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the question is who's having a bad time,
Speaker 2: Like is the audience still having a good time or is.
Speaker 3: It just because of the person on.
Speaker 1: That's what he doesn't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, but there is nothing worse than if you're in
Speaker 2: the standing area and some idiot in front of you
Speaker 2: has their phone out and you can't see over it
Speaker 2: and you're watching the person on the stage through their
Speaker 2: phone because that's all you can see.
Speaker 3: That's why I see it. It is better Yep, YONDI pouch.
Speaker 1: Here we come.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I want to know if all the parents out there
Speaker 2: give us a call. We are asking what is the
Speaker 2: inappropriate thing that your kids said? They said it out loud,
Speaker 2: other people heard it, and you just wish they hadn't
Speaker 2: because you know, in how that old adage like kids
Speaker 2: will say the dundest things. Sometimes it's cute, and sometimes
Speaker 2: you're just like, wow, I've really fail.
Speaker 3: As a parent.
Speaker 1: I think it's a rite, a passage. I think that
Speaker 1: you can't escape it as a parent. Like at some stage,
Speaker 1: every child is going to embarrass you with something.
Speaker 2: They say, Well, my daughter, Marley May, she just turned six,
Speaker 2: she had a birthday last week, and I you know,
Speaker 2: six is kind of at that age where you start
Speaker 2: to come out of it. They've got a little bit
Speaker 2: more social awareness, they know right from wrong, a.
Speaker 3: Little bit more.
Speaker 2: I would expect these things from my four year old,
Speaker 2: but not from my six year old.
Speaker 1: So no, I'm sorry. Six year olds don't get a
Speaker 1: pass They know better.
Speaker 3: Do they know? She's a kindie? The thing is is
Speaker 3: she does know better.
Speaker 2: And sometimes they don't say things meaning for it to
Speaker 2: be super offensive, but they just say a matter of
Speaker 2: fact thing. It's a statement like they've observed something they
Speaker 2: don't understand that maybe that might hurt someone's feeling, and.
Speaker 3: They just say it.
Speaker 1: Also, I say they know better. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what she said yet, so let me judge. I'll judge
Speaker 1: her after the fact.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you guys can all judge her now,
Speaker 2: so our really really good family friend. She also works
Speaker 2: for us at Life on Cut.
Speaker 3: She's been in my life. Her name is Nest.
Speaker 2: She's been in my life like the last to twelve years,
Speaker 2: and she is a huge dog lover and she's actually
Speaker 2: the reason why I ended up adopting my dog Buster,
Speaker 2: because she was fostering him at the time. Now, her
Speaker 2: and her wife, they were a beautiful dog named Juni,
Speaker 2: and Juni has been a huge part of their family.
Speaker 2: And you know, they've been through big transitions, They've had
Speaker 2: little kids themselves, and you know, Junie's been there whilst
Speaker 2: their family has grown. And recently she had an accident
Speaker 2: and they had to make the really hard decision of
Speaker 2: putting their dog down. And anyone who's been through that
Speaker 2: when their dog, when your dog is a family member,
Speaker 2: it is devastating, absolutely devastating also because.
Speaker 1: Their dog was so young and it was unexpected.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And now look the other weekend, it was like
Speaker 2: a situation where they were having friends over. Anyone who
Speaker 2: was really close to Junie and our girls are it.
Speaker 3: Was the wake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it wasn't awake because it was a pre
Speaker 2: it was before that actually had Junie put down so
Speaker 2: everyone could say they're goodbyes, and Junia had this beautiful
Speaker 2: day and I sort of said, look, I don't know
Speaker 2: if my kids are at an age where this will
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 3: Well, they're really turbo.
Speaker 2: I was like, everyone's quine, kind of solemn and having
Speaker 2: nice time, and she probably needs.
Speaker 3: A bit of calm. I was like, I don't think my.
Speaker 2: Kids are right for this, and they were like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: bring them along and I was like, no, it's really
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's right anyway, So I didn't
Speaker 2: go on the day, and we went over for dinner
Speaker 2: a couple of days later, and we were there just
Speaker 2: you know, have a carug and show our support, and
Speaker 2: Matt and I went over, brought the kids and we
Speaker 2: picked up dinner and we all had dinner together.
Speaker 3: And it was a really lovely night.
Speaker 2: And of course on the drive over there, I had
Speaker 2: to explain to the girls what had happened and why
Speaker 2: Junie wasn't there anymore, and you could see Marley and
Speaker 2: Lola were processing, and they've experienced death in our family,
Speaker 2: like their grandparents have passed away, and so they no
Speaker 2: one understand that that means that that personal thing is
Speaker 2: not here anymore, and so we had a lovely night,
Speaker 2: I had a lovely dinner. But anyway, the next day
Speaker 2: sent a nice message to my friend and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, it was really nice to see you. I
Speaker 2: hope that you hope that you guys are feeling okay
Speaker 2: And she said, yeah, yeah, we were feeling great. That
Speaker 2: was until Marley pointed out one of the dog toys
Speaker 2: and said, why have you got that?
Speaker 3: Your dog's dead. You don't need that anymore, point blank, sent.
Speaker 2: Her in a text message to me, and I was like,
Speaker 2: sorry she did She did not, and she was like, hey,
Speaker 2: yeah she did.
Speaker 3: Actually.
Speaker 2: In fact, she pointed out several things that the dog
Speaker 2: had that were around the house and told us that
Speaker 2: it's not needed.
Speaker 3: To be fair, it's not why have you got a
Speaker 3: dog bed? Your dog's dead. But she didn't say it
Speaker 3: in front of me, or I would have corrected her.
Speaker 3: She said it behind my baby.
Speaker 1: You don't correct her because it's right. What she said
Speaker 1: is right. Maybe she seems to understand that it was
Speaker 1: like more gentle ways.
Speaker 3: Ye, wrong, that's the problem. It is true, like, yes,
Speaker 3: it's fact, that's really wrong. Actually, So then I do
Speaker 3: feel like at six, it's pretty old. No, six is
Speaker 3: pretty mature. Do you know what she was hangering for?
Speaker 3: Do you know what it was? And I figured it out.
Speaker 3: She wanted she wanted to take the dog toy home.
Speaker 3: She liked it, and she was like, you don't need that.
Speaker 3: Guess who does. I'll take it off.
Speaker 1: I'll take it off your heads.
Speaker 2: We're talking about what is the inappropriate thing that your
Speaker 2: kids said that you wish they hadn't, because look, Marley
Speaker 2: May came out with the doozy the other day and
Speaker 2: I don't know. We were discussing is six too late? Like,
Speaker 2: is it too old that they should know better at
Speaker 2: this age?
Speaker 1: Well, pretty grace, do you think we should to tell
Speaker 1: Laura what happened about what Molly said?
Speaker 2: Yes, just to set it up if you miss what
Speaker 2: we were just talking about. Basically, our very very good
Speaker 2: friend had just put down their family dog and.
Speaker 3: Were devastated about it.
Speaker 2: We went over there to give them a you know,
Speaker 2: to all kind of like go around and give them
Speaker 2: a hug and have.
Speaker 3: A nice dinner.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know this, but my daughter was pointing
Speaker 2: out all of the dog paraphernalia in the house and saying,
Speaker 2: you don't need that because your dog is dead because
Speaker 2: she wanted to take it home.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so not long ago. It's like two weeks
Speaker 1: ago at my wedding. Yeah, Marley did something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife and I got to hang out with
Speaker 5: your lovely children, who are delightful.
Speaker 3: Dear God, are you dare? They're not even here to
Speaker 3: defend themselves.
Speaker 5: And we were sitting there and Marley looks at my
Speaker 5: wife Diana and goes, she your grandma. And I was like, no,
Speaker 5: this is my wife.
Speaker 3: We're married, and she was like, okay, is that it?
Speaker 3: That was it?
Speaker 5: Like we have six years between us.
Speaker 3: It's not exactly. Well, there's an age gap right there.
Speaker 3: Six years is a long time. She's only been a
Speaker 3: life for six years. The poor kid, It wasn't that
Speaker 3: woman is as old. She's like a whole six years old.
Speaker 3: That could be your mom, could be grandma grandma?
Speaker 1: Is that your grandmother's?
Speaker 3: Sorry? Sorry? And also how did Diana react to this?
Speaker 5: She told Marley that I was her daughter, so she
Speaker 5: really leant into it.
Speaker 3: I like that, you really just cause like some more
Speaker 3: confusion to try and fix that problem.
Speaker 1: We weren't even going to bring it up, but it
Speaker 1: was just too when you.
Speaker 3: Were too much bless her. Oh my god, I hope
Speaker 3: my kids are not listening to this anyway. I hope
Speaker 3: they're at school. We got bad now, three o'clock. They're finished,
Speaker 3: They got picked up half an hour ago. What my
Speaker 3: kids get to school these days? Three o'clock, babe, it's
Speaker 3: got no idea.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, but wech Honey, we.
Speaker 2: Work on the pickup. That's when people are picking their
Speaker 2: children up from school.
Speaker 3: That's the whole point.
Speaker 1: I thought, three thirty, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we got Beth on the line, Hi, bed thought
Speaker 2: was the inappropriate thing your kids said?
Speaker 6: So, my daughter would have been maybe three and a half.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting on the toilet in all my glory. She
Speaker 6: wanders in, looks me dead in the eyes, and says, Mummy,
Speaker 6: why does your bum have a beard? And then I
Speaker 6: had to proceed to explain to her, honey, it's not
Speaker 6: a beard. Tell her all about it. And then I'm
Speaker 6: made sure to tell her wait till you're older, darling,
Speaker 6: your bum's gonna have a beard too, were you like?
Speaker 2: Because I'm breaking down the stereotypes and I'm like, you know, embracing.
Speaker 3: Women have hair too. Goddamn it, we're giving her a pass.
Speaker 1: She's I'm allowing that one.
Speaker 2: Oh dear, all right, thanks that bear, Kara, What did
Speaker 2: your kids say that you wish they hadn't?
Speaker 6: So when I take my daughter into the public toilets
Speaker 6: after she's been and it's my turn, she'll say, very loudly,
Speaker 6: are you doing a pooh mum?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh my god, so embarrassing.
Speaker 2: They start to describe the smell of it as well.
Speaker 2: Because you've kept the logic, they'll do it in mind.
Speaker 6: The other thing is is like I'm doing a Wii
Speaker 6: but she still has to ask me so loudly in
Speaker 6: front of everybody.
Speaker 3: How do you respond?
Speaker 2: How do you because you've got to have then have
Speaker 2: a conversation, and you know everyone in the store next
Speaker 2: door is having a giggle about it.
Speaker 1: You say, we don't talk.
Speaker 6: Usually, I go I'm just doing awei.
Speaker 3: Are you quiet? And then you hear the person next
Speaker 3: door giggling.
Speaker 7: I know, I know she's entertaining, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Thanks Kara, Amy, What did your kids say that you
Speaker 2: wish they hadn't?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, So my daughter coming from a red eyed flight
Speaker 7: into Australia from Malaysia, decided to tell her customs office
Speaker 7: so that her dad had a big willie. Why don't know,
Speaker 7: We don't know. And it was more alarming for me
Speaker 7: because I was like, that's something I've never said, Like,
Speaker 7: where does she get that? How does she know what
Speaker 7: that is?
Speaker 1: The customs? Are you importing anything?
Speaker 3: Well, my dad's got a big willy.
Speaker 7: My husband was stoked. You could imagine the customer's officers
Speaker 7: that have very limited personality were was cracking up laughing.
Speaker 7: So she's now eleven and never lives it down at
Speaker 7: the time, did you say she was two and a half.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely gold. But also you do question why does
Speaker 2: a two year old have any clue?
Speaker 7: And I could just I was like, what did she do?
Speaker 7: Typical think I run around in our home telling my
Speaker 7: husband he's got a big WILLI all the time, exactly
Speaker 7: where my brain was like, Hey, if.
Speaker 1: You guys want to use that on that TV show
Speaker 1: security that put me on your ads.
Speaker 7: That's okay. He was stoked. He thought it's the best
Speaker 7: thing ever.
Speaker 2: So thanks, that's going from us the end of the show.
Speaker 3: I'm a way to finish.
Speaker 2: But also like, this is not something that is unfamiliar
Speaker 2: to any parent.
Speaker 3: I feel like that this is just a rite of
Speaker 3: passage when it comes to parenting.
Speaker 2: You've just got to figure out how to navigate these
Speaker 2: situations the best you can.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Guys, look, if you've missed any of the show, you
Speaker 2: want to catch up on it.