1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:17,724 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. 4 00:00:18,564 --> 00:00:20,924 Speaker 3: Jersey and Amanda jam. 5 00:00:20,764 --> 00:00:24,043 Speaker 1: Nation, Well, we love our next guest. Matt Nabel is 6 00:00:24,084 --> 00:00:26,164 Speaker 1: a friend of ours. It's always great to have him 7 00:00:26,164 --> 00:00:27,924 Speaker 1: on for a chat. As we said earlier, he's the 8 00:00:27,964 --> 00:00:31,004 Speaker 1: voice of Fox Sports. That the big dramatic man you 9 00:00:31,124 --> 00:00:32,564 Speaker 1: hear from before the big games. 10 00:00:32,644 --> 00:00:32,924 Speaker 3: That's his. 11 00:00:33,043 --> 00:00:34,083 Speaker 2: That's on his business card. 12 00:00:34,204 --> 00:00:35,483 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say. He's known for his 13 00:00:35,564 --> 00:00:38,123 Speaker 1: role in Mystery in Between, most recently Apple Side of Vinegar. 14 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:40,764 Speaker 1: He's up for Silver LOGI with that. He's an author, 15 00:00:40,763 --> 00:00:44,284 Speaker 1: he's an ex NRL star. His business card is a foldout. 16 00:00:44,324 --> 00:00:45,203 Speaker 2: What doesn't he do? 17 00:00:45,324 --> 00:00:47,123 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what he's doing. He's on who 18 00:00:47,124 --> 00:00:49,083 Speaker 1: Do You Think You Are? Tonight on SBS and he 19 00:00:49,164 --> 00:00:52,684 Speaker 1: joins us now Matt High. 20 00:00:51,444 --> 00:00:53,764 Speaker 3: Hello, guys, how are It's lovely to see. 21 00:00:53,644 --> 00:00:55,964 Speaker 2: You always as always good to see you. And this 22 00:00:56,084 --> 00:00:59,884 Speaker 2: particular Who Do You Are? Is fraught because it starts 23 00:00:59,924 --> 00:01:02,684 Speaker 2: with you You're doing it in twenty twenty three, and 24 00:01:02,724 --> 00:01:04,244 Speaker 2: then well. 25 00:01:04,444 --> 00:01:10,204 Speaker 4: Starry, Yeah, so I started in twenty twenty three. It 26 00:01:10,244 --> 00:01:13,884 Speaker 4: was around May twenty twenty three and about five days 27 00:01:13,884 --> 00:01:15,684 Speaker 4: into it, or four days into it, I was traveling 28 00:01:15,684 --> 00:01:19,203 Speaker 4: over to Perth and my brother, who had made a 29 00:01:19,244 --> 00:01:23,444 Speaker 4: neuron disease had been diagnosed about twelve months before that, 30 00:01:23,764 --> 00:01:26,764 Speaker 4: got aspirational pneumonia and went into hospital. I got a 31 00:01:26,764 --> 00:01:29,204 Speaker 4: phone call to say, look, you should come home because 32 00:01:29,203 --> 00:01:32,244 Speaker 4: he might not get out. He did get out. He 33 00:01:32,324 --> 00:01:34,563 Speaker 4: went back to hospital again a couple of months later 34 00:01:34,924 --> 00:01:37,404 Speaker 4: and survived another eight months, and then he passed away 35 00:01:37,444 --> 00:01:42,164 Speaker 4: in March and twenty four and I'd forgotten all about it, 36 00:01:42,884 --> 00:01:44,524 Speaker 4: about you know, who do you think you are? And 37 00:01:44,564 --> 00:01:46,884 Speaker 4: they came back and said, look, we'd love you to 38 00:01:46,884 --> 00:01:50,044 Speaker 4: finish it. So I went back and finished it last year. 39 00:01:50,804 --> 00:01:52,604 Speaker 4: You're not long enough to Aaron passed away. So look, 40 00:01:52,604 --> 00:01:54,804 Speaker 4: the journey for me was really really emotional. You know, 41 00:01:54,884 --> 00:01:59,724 Speaker 4: there was Aaron before he passed was really quite excited. 42 00:01:59,724 --> 00:02:01,524 Speaker 4: He couldn't talk at that point, but he was really 43 00:02:01,524 --> 00:02:06,044 Speaker 4: excited about finding out about all our heritage, you know, 44 00:02:06,524 --> 00:02:07,804 Speaker 4: and where we came from. 45 00:02:07,604 --> 00:02:09,964 Speaker 3: And who was who on the zoo type of thing. 46 00:02:10,043 --> 00:02:12,204 Speaker 4: And you know, when I was there the first time, 47 00:02:12,244 --> 00:02:14,364 Speaker 4: he was saying he could still use his hands at 48 00:02:14,404 --> 00:02:16,203 Speaker 4: that point, so he was sending me text message just 49 00:02:16,204 --> 00:02:18,924 Speaker 4: to trying to fill me in and ask questions. And 50 00:02:18,964 --> 00:02:20,804 Speaker 4: of course I was always going to tell him because 51 00:02:20,844 --> 00:02:22,124 Speaker 4: we knew he wasn't going to be around. 52 00:02:22,163 --> 00:02:23,804 Speaker 3: So you know, when they got me. 53 00:02:23,844 --> 00:02:27,323 Speaker 4: Back, you know, that was that was It was a 54 00:02:27,363 --> 00:02:29,164 Speaker 4: pretty emotional sort of journey. 55 00:02:29,644 --> 00:02:31,684 Speaker 1: I've been looking at what you discovered. I've also done 56 00:02:31,724 --> 00:02:32,804 Speaker 1: who do you Think You Are? And one of the 57 00:02:32,803 --> 00:02:36,644 Speaker 1: main storylines I had was about women in early Australia, 58 00:02:36,844 --> 00:02:42,323 Speaker 1: early white colonization of Australia having to keep the family 59 00:02:42,363 --> 00:02:44,284 Speaker 1: going when there wasn't a man around. And you've got 60 00:02:44,284 --> 00:02:45,203 Speaker 1: a similar story. 61 00:02:46,884 --> 00:02:49,804 Speaker 4: Yeah, look that you know on both sides, but you know, 62 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:52,284 Speaker 4: particularly my mother's side. You know, I'm going to be 63 00:02:52,324 --> 00:02:56,203 Speaker 4: careful not to give too much away, but there was, yeah, 64 00:02:56,324 --> 00:03:02,163 Speaker 4: an abandoned woman with you know, three times great grandmother. 65 00:03:02,244 --> 00:03:04,324 Speaker 3: I think of mine who had fourteen children and she 66 00:03:04,363 --> 00:03:04,884 Speaker 3: was abandoned. 67 00:03:04,923 --> 00:03:09,363 Speaker 4: She was left and the mother before that, the husband 68 00:03:09,363 --> 00:03:11,883 Speaker 4: died quite early and so they were left, you know, 69 00:03:12,004 --> 00:03:13,004 Speaker 4: to fend for themselves. 70 00:03:13,004 --> 00:03:13,803 Speaker 3: It was a look. 71 00:03:14,084 --> 00:03:16,684 Speaker 4: You know, what that really showed me was, you know, 72 00:03:16,724 --> 00:03:19,164 Speaker 4: when they were colonizing out here, that just the conditions 73 00:03:19,163 --> 00:03:21,924 Speaker 4: in which these people are living were we have no reference, 74 00:03:22,124 --> 00:03:26,804 Speaker 4: you know, none whatsoever. You know, fourteen children living in 75 00:03:26,923 --> 00:03:29,323 Speaker 4: a in a room size of what I'm in now, 76 00:03:29,363 --> 00:03:34,004 Speaker 4: in an office. You know, sickness, you know it was. 77 00:03:34,284 --> 00:03:37,244 Speaker 4: It was really really dire and it was really really difficult. 78 00:03:37,244 --> 00:03:40,804 Speaker 4: So the women you know from a mother's side, were 79 00:03:40,964 --> 00:03:44,444 Speaker 4: remarkably strong and they had to be. But yeah, you 80 00:03:44,564 --> 00:03:48,764 Speaker 4: really got a real perspective, an inside of what you 81 00:03:48,803 --> 00:03:50,964 Speaker 4: know as to what it was like for these people 82 00:03:50,964 --> 00:03:53,124 Speaker 4: when they first came here. It was just there is 83 00:03:53,204 --> 00:03:55,924 Speaker 4: no common ground or no reference that we could. 84 00:03:55,764 --> 00:03:56,644 Speaker 3: Sort of point to. 85 00:03:56,964 --> 00:04:02,284 Speaker 2: Here, there's a stuff and maybe you should this is 86 00:04:02,324 --> 00:04:04,764 Speaker 2: something you should maybe do because remember back in the 87 00:04:04,803 --> 00:04:08,484 Speaker 2: seventies and eighties, John English was always in those convict 88 00:04:08,524 --> 00:04:13,804 Speaker 2: era type shows because you've done it was always it's 89 00:04:13,803 --> 00:04:18,884 Speaker 2: almost like one day and John Waters with sideburns. 90 00:04:19,764 --> 00:04:20,883 Speaker 3: That's right, that's it. 91 00:04:21,363 --> 00:04:24,884 Speaker 2: I think we bring back the convict era drama. 92 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:26,363 Speaker 3: Because I'd love to do that. 93 00:04:26,404 --> 00:04:28,124 Speaker 2: Well, you look at the length and breadth of view. 94 00:04:28,684 --> 00:04:30,684 Speaker 2: One of my favorite characters you played, of course, was 95 00:04:30,764 --> 00:04:33,564 Speaker 2: Dave and mister in Between, but then you played so 96 00:04:33,684 --> 00:04:36,044 Speaker 2: You're a bad guy. But then you played Gary, a 97 00:04:36,124 --> 00:04:40,124 Speaker 2: good guy in underbelly badness, so begs the question which 98 00:04:40,124 --> 00:04:41,964 Speaker 2: are you better at good? 99 00:04:44,324 --> 00:04:45,524 Speaker 3: Either really good or really bad. 100 00:04:45,644 --> 00:04:47,484 Speaker 4: There's very rarely do you find something in the middle, 101 00:04:47,484 --> 00:04:50,564 Speaker 4: although I did do Apple Cider Viningo, which was a 102 00:04:50,644 --> 00:04:51,764 Speaker 4: real departure. 103 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:54,604 Speaker 3: It's got to be you know, a dad and a husband, 104 00:04:54,604 --> 00:04:55,884 Speaker 3: so that was great. 105 00:04:56,724 --> 00:04:58,244 Speaker 1: You're incredible in that, and I know you're up for 106 00:04:58,244 --> 00:05:00,044 Speaker 1: a silver LOGI for that, so good luck. 107 00:05:01,444 --> 00:05:03,004 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for that. I'm not sure I'll go, 108 00:05:03,124 --> 00:05:03,924 Speaker 3: but thank. 109 00:05:03,804 --> 00:05:10,404 Speaker 4: You read too many. 110 00:05:10,964 --> 00:05:14,164 Speaker 2: Speaking of Underbelly, well, mate, it's always good to talk 111 00:05:14,164 --> 00:05:16,484 Speaker 2: to you. Maybe you should be our hype guy because, 112 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:18,524 Speaker 2: like I like when you do all the NRL stuff. 113 00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:23,084 Speaker 3: These two came from the main streets. Sh get me across. 114 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:27,444 Speaker 2: Send us an invoice. Matt, it's always good to talk 115 00:05:27,484 --> 00:05:29,563 Speaker 2: to you. Who do you think you are? Is tonight 116 00:05:29,604 --> 00:05:32,644 Speaker 2: something thirty on SBS and SBS on demand make great 117 00:05:32,684 --> 00:05:33,363 Speaker 2: to catch up with you. 118 00:05:34,404 --> 00:05:36,284 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always great to see you. Two guys are 119 00:05:36,284 --> 00:05:37,964 Speaker 4: two of my favorite people, so thank you for having me. 120 00:05:38,124 --> 00:05:39,964 Speaker 1: If I love the cat's nice to talk to you.