1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Looking back on her childhood, Ava and Agnostiartes can't remember 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: a time she wasn't in a go kart. After watching 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: her mum be one of only a few women on 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: the racing track, she simply knew she too wanted to 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: join in in the action. At age thirteen, Ava won 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: the Ladies Trophy at the Australian Krting Championships and just 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: two years later moved to the UK to join Alpines 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Race her karting program. 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: After a season in the Indian F. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Four Championship, this year, at just seventeen years old, she's 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: joined the all female F one Academy with Team High 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Tech TGR, where she hopes one day to achieve her 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: dreams of driving in the F one. Welcome back to 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: the Female Athlete Project and thanks for pressing play on 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: this episode. My name is Sophie the producer here at 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: TEFAP and this week Chloe sits down with the first 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Australian woman to be selected as a driver for the 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: F one Academy, Ava and Agnostiades. Ava shares sides into 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: what her life is like as a young race car 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: driver living in Italy and all the physical and financial 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: challenges that come along the way. We hope you enjoyed 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: this episode. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: Ava and Agnostiades, Welcome to the Female Athlete Projects. 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Did I get it? Did I know? 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: It's good? It was really good. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: She's like, I've got a little bit of feedback, but 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: we'll just preteba about it. How are you've had You've 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: had big year? 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: Multiple months? 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: What are we going to call it? You've been I'm 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: seeing you everywhere. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: It's just like off and on stints. I guess I 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: think I had moved into my new house in Italy, 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: I say two months ago, and I had my full 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: first week like a couple of weeks ago. Wow. So yeah, 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: it's been like oh, I'd say they're a day and 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: then be off back again. So it's been hectic, but 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: I enjoy it. So it's good. 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Can you take us back to it, well, 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: you're kind of still a kid, but can take us 41 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: back to when you were little? And can you describe 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: yourself as a little kid? 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: Little me was probably running around, dancing around the lounge room, 44 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: complaining about going to swimming lessons and just eating everything 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: in sight. But then it kind of took a bit 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: of a turn obviously, and I ended up in a 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: go kart, yeah, because a mum. So mum raced and 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: then she got back into it and I ended up 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: at the racetrack every weekend after ballet class and Saturday mornings. 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, from then on in, I think I can't 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: really remember the days where I wasn't in a cart. 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: And then I just grew up at the track with 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of boys and a team full of twenty 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: aging the age kind of range from you know, you've 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: got seven year olds and you've got twenty five year 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: olds and it was just one massive, big family and 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: you're at the track every week and going around. And 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: then I jumped into cars last year. Ye, and now 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: I'm in the one academy. 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: That's insane. I want to go back eating everything inside. 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: What foods are we talking here? 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm Greek in Italian, so both grandma's you know, they'd 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: be from feed and it is a weighted sport now, 64 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: so I have to kind of control the control myself. 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: So but yeah, I think growing up always been a 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: bit of a foodie. 67 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. And your mum and 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: her experience, can you touch on that and what that's 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: meant for you kind of when you first got to 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: the track. 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: Mom started when she was twelve, just in go karts 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: her dad. It was actually my grandpa and my normal's 73 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: go kart, and then obviously it didn't last very long 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: as he is and it turned into hers and then 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: they were at the track. Dad started mechaniccking for Mom 76 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: at fifteen, so they've been together. It's like a high 77 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: school romance thing going on there. So they've been together 78 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: for ages. And then Mum got out, had kids, family, 79 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: all that stuff, and then got back into it when 80 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: I was about five or six and my brother was 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: about three, and then we're as soon the day she 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: got back in, I didn't end up going to the track, 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: and then the following weekend I went down, and then 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: I was there every weekend. We were at club races, 85 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: which turned into state and then national and then international, 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: and then it was just it was I knew it 87 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: was kind of looking back at it now, our family 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: was never going to keep it as a small little hobby. 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: It was always going to turn into something bigger. We're 90 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: all really competitive, so yeah, and then me and my 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: brother I helped in a go car and then two 92 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: years later he was in a go kart, so he 93 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: had all three. Dad had all three of us at 94 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: the track at one race meeting, so he'd pushed Mum 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: to the good come back, get me go, and then 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: bring my brother back, and then we'd try and get 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: some help to like work. If someone crashed, it was 98 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: endgame because you know it's only mechanicking. But yeah, it 99 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: was just kind of full on from day one. I guess, And. 100 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Where did dance fit in? Because you were pretty good 101 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: at dance. 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was troops all that competitive stuff up until twelve, 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: thirteen years old. I was kind of Mum put me 104 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: in when I was three, So I grew up at 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: the one dance school obviously added more classes as I 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: went on. I was pretty invested into it. I loved it, 107 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: but then once I got in the gokut, it was 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: that kind of excuse. It was Wednesday after school, I 109 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: don't want to go, I can't be bothered. And then 110 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: I was swimming as well, like they put me in 111 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: the squad for I think Mento and Grandma like I was, 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: and they were all seventeen and I was about I 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: think eight or nine, so I was I was pretty 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: good at swimming as well, and then I don't know, 115 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: I just kind of fell out of love with the 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: dance and ended up at the racetrack. And mom and 117 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: dad were kind of a bit shocked, but they just 118 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: let me do whatever I wanted and ended up here. 119 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing because lots of kids play different 120 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: sports and do different things, and I advocate for it 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: because I think it's a great thing to do multiple 122 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: different things. How did you decide, Like, was it a 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: thing that it just brought you joy? Being at the track? 124 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: Like do you remember what it was that made you 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: want to be there? 126 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: I think the community, like as well as the racing. 127 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: Obviously the racing top on the list, but then the 128 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: community that you've the track, the kind of atmosphere it is, 129 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: the competitive I think I learned very fast that I 130 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: don't like to rely on teammates. Like obviously, in a 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: rate you have your race team, you have mechanics and 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: all that, and everyone needs to work together, but at 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're the one in the car. 134 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: You have to do the job behind the scene, and 135 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: then you get on the track and it's only you 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: that turns out to what the end result is going 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: to be I think, walking on a stage with another 138 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Tan girls and hopefully they've stretched this week gether wise. 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: You know, we're not going to end up doing very well. 140 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: But I think that I'm kind of looking back on it, 141 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: that's kind of where I realized I kind of like 142 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: the singular sport thing. I mean, swimming is kind of 143 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: the same thing as well. But if I didn't race, 144 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: I'd probably be swimming, to be honest. Maybe I was 145 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: with Summer they came back. Yes, I was with her 146 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: at the Canadian Grand Prix and I was stood next time. 147 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, probably don't have the build for the 148 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: so big job and you're about five foot more. 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: So she's a beast, isn't. 150 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: She's amazing. She's just so nice. So I met her 151 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: two weeks ago and I was I got to hold 152 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: one of the medals, and I was like, oh my gosh. 153 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Because she recently broke like three world records 154 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: or something crazy. 155 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: She's going to France to do another world's thing, and 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you going to going to win and 157 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: break another one? She's like, yeah, I think my practice 158 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: times have been pretty good. I was like Okay, she's 159 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: going to do it again. 160 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: All right, stuff like that. That's awesome that piece around 161 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: the individual sport and you're preferring that, What do you 162 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: think it is about your personality? Like, are you a 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: real perfectionist? 164 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: I think I like, I like a lot of structure 165 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: and everything has to be kind of in line. Like 166 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: my days, I'll do the same thing, same time every 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: single day. Like I wake up, I go to the gym, 168 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: I come back, I'll have like my breakfast, and then 169 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: I go do my stimulator work and then I do 170 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: my other training. But then when there's other stuff throwing 171 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: in there, I'm like, oh, it gives me anxiety about it. 172 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: And I think just knowing that it's on me and 173 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: not other people. I mean, you know, you've got the 174 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: race team does play a part. I mean, you got 175 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: they've got to set up the car right, the engine's 176 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: got to be right. But the driving and everything, the passing, 177 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: whether I go for a pass or I drive the 178 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: corner about are good. It's all on me and whether 179 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: I've done the training to be able to last the 180 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: race or you know, all that stuff behind the scenes. 181 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: I think knowing that it's just me behind the wheel 182 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: and not someone like a co pilot or something. Even rarely, 183 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: I think I'd struggle because I'm still relying if they 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: tell me to turn left or not right. Like you know, 185 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: it's just I feel like personally, I like where it's 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: just I rely on myself and myself only. 187 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: And what happens when you do make a mistake or 188 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: when you fail yourself? What is your self took like 189 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: in those moments. 190 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: I think going through motorsport, you kind of have to 191 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: learn to just get up and go again. I think 192 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: in motorsport there's this thing where you have the Monday 193 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: kind of like dreads and like the depresso on Monday, 194 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: where it's like if you come off a bad weekend, 195 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: you got money, you're just walking around miserable, and then 196 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: the rest of you get back up the rest of 197 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: the week and you go again, and it's kind of 198 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: I think, an addicting sport where you can do crap 199 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: and crap and crap every single weekend, and then you 200 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: have that one good weekend and it just reminds you 201 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: how good it is and you go back at it again, 202 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, I don't know, you just get 203 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: up and go again. I think I've just taught myself 204 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 3: if we're doing crap, well, work harder, work hard to 205 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: work harder, and you know eventually the result's going to 206 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: come because you're putting into the effort and time. And 207 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's been a difficult year. There's 208 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: been highs, but there's been a bit more lows than 209 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: highs this year just because you know, I haven't we 210 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: haven't had the budget to go testing and all this 211 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: stuff behind the scenes. So for me in the car, 212 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: it's been going to race meat to race meat, and 213 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to progress as fast as we can. There's 214 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: been progression, but the results that I want to see 215 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: haven't been just there. And then we kick Canada and 216 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: it was just race one in the top ten and 217 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: you have that and then you're like, all right, every 218 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: things starting to pay off. All the work that we're 219 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: doing is starting to pay off. So yeah, it's I 220 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: think just you get beat down or you just get 221 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: back up, and I think you have to be a 222 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: certain kind of person to be able to do that. 223 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: You touch there on the budget piece, it's a pretty 224 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: expensive sport. 225 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: Too expensive. I think Mum wanted me to stay with 226 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: dance for this reason. 227 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 2: How much does that impact, Like you talked about the 228 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: fact that it can impact your level of access in training. Yeah, 229 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: can you kind of break that down for people who 230 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: don't understand how that works. 231 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: I think cards is a bit different to cars. I 232 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: think carding you can go like training wise for a female, 233 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: obviously we have to train a little bit more than 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: the males because say I was fourteen in a senior category, 235 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: which there can be thirty year old males in the class, 236 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: so you know, they're a lot more developed than a 237 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: fourteen year old girl. So I was training quite hard 238 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: the whole way through, just gym work and stuff. And 239 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: you know, you can take your go kart in a 240 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: trailer and just go at the track like you own 241 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: everything yourself, but then when you move to cars, it 242 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: gets a bit more difficult. The test days can range 243 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: from anywhere to seven thousand to around fifteen to twelve 244 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: thousand euros a day for the testing, so you know, yeah, 245 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: it's skyrockets, especially in Europe. So you know, we have 246 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: we don't have the budget this year for any testing 247 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: right now. You know, we've got a couple of sponsors 248 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: that help me out with F one Academy which are 249 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: being great and F one Academy is such a great 250 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: thing because you know, there's a lot of females out 251 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: there that are struggling to get the money to keep 252 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: going in motorsport. And that's why we don't really see 253 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: them any higher up in any of the categories because 254 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: it's not the talent, it's just females can't get the 255 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: backing or the budget to do it. Because you can 256 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: go to sponsors and say, oh, I want to go 257 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: to Formula one, but you know, they look in those 258 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: categories that are under Formula one, that are the kind 259 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: of breeding season to get there, and there's no other 260 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: girl in there for them to kind of look at 261 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: and see, Okay, it is a realistic goal for us, 262 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: and it's an investment. So you got to try and 263 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: find those sponsor they are going to jump on board 264 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: and you know, help you get the testing so then 265 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: we can get fast enough and then get to those 266 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: categories and you know, progress through the sport. But even 267 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: for me, training like I kind of grab every little 268 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: thing I can learn off every trainer I have and 269 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: kind of I've had. I could probably go to and 270 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: do a PTE and nutrition degree right now by myself 271 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: after these three years of just like teaching myself everything. 272 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm doing HAHD in school, so learn 273 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: a little bit there. 274 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: What's that Human in health development? 275 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that? 276 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 277 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: Got yeah? 278 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: So is that in Victoria? 279 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: Is that I'm trying to think I'm online in Victorian school? 280 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I'm doing a little bit of that. 281 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: But it's just every little thing adds up, and like 282 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: you can get a trainer that some of the top 283 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: kids have their own mental coaches, personal trainers, nutritionists, every 284 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 3: little thing under the sun. And then you've got people 285 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: that can't afford any of that. So yeah, I'm lucky 286 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: enough to have my brother who's in the Mercedes Junior 287 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: F one program, and you know he's got access to 288 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 3: all these because Mercedes program's just amazing, So you know, 289 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: grab a little bit off him where I can get it. 290 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: And so there's that side of things, and then there's 291 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: the on track side of things, where you know you 292 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: can't afford to go testing. So we've been going all 293 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: year just race to race to race hoping to improve. 294 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: But for us to get sponsors on board, we need 295 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: to get the results, which we can't really get because 296 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: we can't go do the test days to be able 297 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: to get the results. And I was lucky enough to 298 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: have two days with Rob Wilson before Canada and we've 299 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: gone from being around fourteenth or fifteenth to the top ten. 300 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: So there's just those two little days and I think 301 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: for me to see that myself, it's up, but it's 302 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: a down as well because I know how well I 303 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: could be doing if I got the lapse. So you know, 304 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: we've been working on it. There's some stuff in the mix, 305 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: but you know, it's just it's a very very expensive 306 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: sport and I think a lot of people kind of 307 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: look at it and go, oh, you know, they're going 308 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: to pay for the helmet and a little bit tires. 309 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: But when you want to go hire a track privately 310 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: like this Silverstone, you've got kids going out that have 311 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: got a billion dollars, billions and millions of dollars and 312 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: they've got two cars there and they hire the track 313 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: for fifty thousand pounds a day to go do lapse 314 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: at Silverston. And it's like, how do you compete with this? 315 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: And I feel like in other sports, say swimming or something, 316 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: you can go and swim at more laps than the 317 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: other person for an hour each night, and you can 318 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: do those little things by yourself, but you know, motorsport 319 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: to for you to go practice. It's big dollars. 320 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge. It's so so huge. 321 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous. 322 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: And how close does to simulate a go I don't imagine. 323 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: It's the same seem for me. I've always hated the simulator, 324 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: like I do not like it, but I've had to 325 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: grow to like it. When I play with my mates 326 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: and stuff, like, it's enjoyable because you know, you crash 327 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: into each other then you drive around, it's really fun. 328 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: But the testing side of things, I think now I've 329 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: kind of realized that it's I need it because for 330 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: me learning, I need to be quite repetitive. So I 331 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: was on the sym for Canada, I think like three 332 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: to four hours each day for like three weeks, just 333 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: doing laps and laps and laps. And so then I 334 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: got on the track. And you get on the track, 335 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: you know which way it goes, you know what's coming. 336 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: You got the gears, you got breaking points. Sometimes you know, 337 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: people make the tracks and the mapping can be a 338 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: bit different or the breaking points and everything so you 339 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: get on track and you go for the track walk 340 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: and work that out car wise, because the car that 341 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm racing is an F one Academy car, so we 342 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: have a different rule where we can't add as much camba, 343 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: so we have a lot more pushed past the corner, 344 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: so we have to feed the wheel a lot more 345 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: to be able to get the car kind of to 346 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: the corner. 347 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: That kind of break that down. So for someone who 348 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: did not understand what you just. 349 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: Academy car. So we have it is an F four British, Italian, Spanish, 350 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: same kind of chassis frame as their cars, same engines, 351 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: same tires, everything like that. The only thing that we 352 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: have is different is kind of our plastics around it, 353 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: which is the rear wing and front wing. They're a 354 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: lot bigger and heavier, and the way they're designed is 355 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: a bit less downforce, so the cars less stuck to 356 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: the track through some corners, and the rear wing is 357 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: a lot heavier than a normal British EF FORUR car, 358 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: which kind of pushes the rear down so when you're 359 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: going into a corner, you're kind of going straight before 360 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: you're actually turning, and it kind of it's a lot 361 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: more difficult to kind of drive. It's a lot different 362 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: to drive than a normal British or Italian A four car. 363 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: So we go on the simulator and there's no kind 364 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: of model for our car that car, so you kind 365 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: of drive it the same, but there's little things when 366 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: you're actually on track that you have to kind of 367 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: change and work around. But simulator, for me, it has 368 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: been a big thing this year, just because that's the 369 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: only lapse that we can get in. So I'm on 370 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: that as much as I possibly can. And my brother's 371 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: quite good on it as well, so he'll hop on 372 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 3: to a time and I'll go on and do a time, 373 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: and it's kind of like a little competition. But sometimes 374 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: it gets a bit mad because there's like this I 375 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 3: rating where you work really hard to get it really high, 376 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 3: and I go on it drops because I just crash 377 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: into everything on purpose. So then you can just get 378 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: a bit mad. But yeah, he goes away for a 379 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: week and I'm like, oh, I'm on your I racing 380 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: account and he's like. 381 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: No, that's good. I like that. It's good. You've got 382 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: to have that. It's a sibling duo, right, Yeah. 383 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: And I think moving overseas has kind of grown us 384 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: a lot, a lot closer than when we were over here, 385 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: so we kind of think realize that we only really 386 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: have each other, and you know, we're both going through 387 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 3: the same thing. So it's good to have him. 388 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: And part of your training, the gym work that you 389 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: do is a huge component of that. And is that 390 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: around like the forces that you're experiencing when you're driving, 391 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: how I'm going around corners. 392 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: Different trainers do it different ways. I think there is 393 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: the more traditional training way, which I don't think is 394 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: really good for any sport. Like just I get a 395 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: bit bored doing it. I just walk around each weight session, 396 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: do three sets and walk off way. But for us 397 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: it's it's kind of hard because we have to put 398 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: on muscle to drive these cars. But you know you've 399 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: got to wait under the seventy kilos So is that. 400 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: What it is? That's not very easy seventy kilos. 401 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: So in f for the ideal, you know, in a 402 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: race car you want to be as light as you 403 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: possibly can, so, but then you have to be as 404 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: strong as possible. So for us to be fast, the 405 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: more weight you can have in the car, not including 406 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 3: yourself just like they put bags of weights in it. 407 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: They can balance it differently so they can make the 408 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: car work a different way, and it's majority of the 409 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: time it's faster. So the lighter you can be, the 410 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: faster you're going to go technically, so and for females 411 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: it's quite difficult because you know you've got it. Men 412 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: have got that natural chestsh your own. My brother's hit 413 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen. He's naturally strong enough to just go jump 414 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: in the car and drive, which I had to train 415 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: and build like two months of just strength training and 416 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: building the muscle for me to be able to drive 417 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: this car for the whole thirty minutes and not get tired. 418 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: So I've put on a bit more weight, but then 419 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: I've got to stay light for the car. But then 420 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: if I keep like stripping like I'm on a bit 421 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: of a strip now that I want to drop about 422 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 3: five kilos, but the muscle that's that's me maxed out 423 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: because I've got muscle that I need to still hold 424 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: on to. So I think the sport and the training 425 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: wise kind of varies for everyone. The boys, I know 426 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: some of the boys are in there. They can go 427 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: for runs and do about three strength sessions a week 428 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: and then just run every other day and you do 429 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: your neck training because that's kind of a big component 430 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: for us. But for me, I'm in there nearly twice 431 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: a day just I go do my strength or like 432 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: I was at gym at home and it gives me 433 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 3: like a circuit and they would do boxing and then 434 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: I'll go for a run in the afternoon and it's 435 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: just like hammer hammer all time. Because you can get 436 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: car fit, which a lot of the kids that are 437 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: running at the front that able to do those laps 438 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: to do one hundred and fifty days. So you're in 439 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: the in the car two days a week, you're naturally 440 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: working the muscles that you need to work for the car. 441 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: So the rest of the week you can probably just 442 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: go to the gym maybe once or twice. They run 443 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: like we used to go to the cart track every weekend, 444 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday and just do laps and laps and laps. 445 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 3: If I hopped back in a go cart right now, 446 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: I'd probably be like a worm hanging out of the 447 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: thing because I couldn't hold on. It's just like this fitness, 448 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: it's a bit different. But yeah, the training for females 449 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: I think is quite full on compared to the males. 450 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: In a way, it must be really weird to have 451 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: a ceiling like that. Like if I think about like 452 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: when I was playing rugby, I was like constantly trying 453 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: to put size on right, like I was having like 454 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: three bulk protein shakes a. 455 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: Day, my day's dream. 456 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: My Diagesian would like tell me to go to Macas 457 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: on the way home to get like extra carries, in 458 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: which the novelty of that kind of wears off quite quickly. 459 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: But there was never a ceiling, I guess said kind 460 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: of monitor like our skin folds and things like that. 461 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 2: But to have it, it must be the weirdest thing 462 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: to like get strongest, strong and stronger, but not so 463 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: strong that you're too heavy to fit in the car. 464 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: And I think for females, all the body, every girl's 465 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: body is different the way that you know, you train 466 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: and put muscle on and everything. So for me, we've 467 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: been putting muscle on, but now I've got to strip 468 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: and try and get as lean as possible. But then 469 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: you know, females have all different issues with that when 470 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: it comes to that stuff. So I think for the girls, 471 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: they've had to up the weight a bit this year 472 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: for our class, our F one Academy because it's not much. 473 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: But the girls last year were like, it's too light, 474 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 3: we can't get and every other category above I think 475 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: you can go. Formula one I think is max eighty kilos. 476 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: So those guys are lifting big weight, like they're tiny 477 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: and they're really strong. So none of them are over 478 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: eighty kilos no George, say George Russell, Yeah he's quite tall. 479 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: I think he's over one eighty. Yeah. Wow, So yeah, 480 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: they get really Yeah. Now you think about it and 481 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: you're like, it must be on something to keep something, 482 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 3: but you never can't because it's what Yeah, but yeah, 483 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: it's a weird I was. I was training with my 484 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: boxing trainer. He owns boxing guys and they're quite good. 485 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: But he was like, you kind of have to train 486 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: like a boxer, but then maintain it. He goes, it's 487 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: not really healthy because you know, you've got boxes that 488 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: they can keep whatever, say sixty five kilos and then 489 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: stripped down to sixty for a box and then bulk 490 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: back up again for the rest of the year. And 491 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: they're fine, we've got to strip that and stay there 492 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: and just eat little bit of lettuce brace wagons is 493 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: above best time because you can just you're burning that much, 494 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: or you can just eat whatever you want. 495 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's the way to do it. 496 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: It is. I think it's a bit more difficult for 497 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: the girls because we've got to balance hormone issues and 498 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: then trying to be that light and keep them being 499 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: that strong enough to be able to compete against the 500 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: boys as well. 501 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: So they've slightly increased that weight cap. Do you think 502 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: that there's enough being done because I guess the Fine 503 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: Academy is new right, Yeah, to give women girls opportunity. 504 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: Do you think there's enough being done to make it specific, 505 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: like you touched on the hormones and having such different bodies. Yeah, 506 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: is it still really new territory in that sense? 507 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 3: I think it is because you know, you've got the 508 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: teams that are coming from when they most of the 509 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: teams run the boys or the boys cut like serious boys. 510 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: I say boys series because it's mainly dominated with the 511 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: males and you have a couple of females in there, 512 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: so they've come from that side of the sport, and 513 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: then you've jumped into all female racing series, which not 514 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: everyone has that much experience in So I think it's 515 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: the way the teams deal with the girls and everything. 516 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: Like we were talking to the team say about the 517 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: training and the weight side of things, and they like, 518 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: you've got to be able to still drive the car, Like, 519 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: we don't want you to drop weight. So that side 520 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 3: of if you were going to do a British Air 521 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: four Championship or the way that I've kind of grown 522 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: up is if you want it bad enough, you'll drop 523 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: the weight and you'll get to that weight. And that's 524 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: what it is. 525 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: Wow, which what's quite a tough sport. 526 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 3: It's quite a hands on, just I don't know, discipline 527 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: kind of sport. Yeah, but I think they're a bit 528 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: more lad They are a bit more lenient with the 529 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: f Onne Academy, and I think it's that's what they're 530 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: trying to do, just to not make it more comfortable, 531 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: but just make it a lot more what's that kind 532 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: of accessible? Yeah, accessible, but then realistic for the girls 533 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: to be able to drive the carors and everything. So 534 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: because as we go into F three and F two, 535 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: the waight goes to eighty so you know, for a female, 536 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: that's my height. For me to be eighty killers I 537 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: have to be pretty like bumped up for me, so 538 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: that's like fine, It's just I think the Breeding series 539 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: they're trying to make it a bit more heavier, so 540 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: then we can, you know, keep healthy and keep strong 541 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: and then be able to drive the cars properly. 542 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: There's NLW Magic Round. 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And if you're keen 553 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: to join us at McDonald jones Stadium, head to nurl 554 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash tickets, forward slash NROLW Magic Round 555 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: or click the link in our show notes to grab 556 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: your tickets now. We can't wait to see you there. 557 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: Do you think people have enough respect for the amount 558 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: of training you guys do, like I know, like drive 559 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: to survive on Netflix and stuff gave people awesome insight 560 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: into racing the people maybe didn't have before. But like, 561 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: you're literally trading like an endurance athlete. Do you think 562 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: people have enough understanding of how hard you work? 563 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: I think Valter Bodas posted an Instagram real and it 564 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: was him doing an Ironman in a day for fun, right, 565 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: So he's crazy. So I think I was like, thank 566 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: god someone's posted this because everyone on that formula and 567 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: grid could probably wake up and just go and do 568 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: an Iman. That's how fit they are. Wow. So he 569 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: just did it for fun. He was like, Okay, I'm 570 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: going to go run up my mountain, do my run, 571 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: come back, do the swim in my pool, and then 572 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: I'll just sit on the bike and do my one 573 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: hundred k bike. And I was like, that's kind of 574 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: what from now? You know, obviously we're doing it quite 575 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: a smaller capacity. I'm not training for an iman, but 576 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: the whole way through the sport, that's kind of where 577 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: you're aiming to be able to just wake up two 578 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: times a week and go do that. So the sport 579 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: is quite physical, and I don't think people kind of 580 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: joke around or you know, you just sit and press 581 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 3: a couple of pedals until the wheel, but you going 582 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: nearly one to three g's getting your neck pushed around. 583 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: You've got to be able to carry pull at least 584 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: thirty to forty killers in your neck to be comfortable. 585 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: So you know, their ones are ridiculous with the weight 586 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: they pull on the neck. But for us, I think 587 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: the average for an F four is about twenty to 588 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: forty and that range killers just holding it there for 589 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: at least five seconds, So you know, it's very different training. 590 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: I go into a normal gym and I'm doing some 591 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: weird stuff and people kind of look at me funny. 592 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: And the next always looks funny. 593 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: This band of a pole, like with this harness thing, 594 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: and people are looking at me, and I'm just like 595 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: dying doing my next stuff. Me and my brother just 596 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: decided to do it at home because I'm like, I 597 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: just can't move hold with people. I had one guy 598 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: because we live in Italy, so I had one guy 599 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: come up start speaking to me in Italian. I was like, 600 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't speak Italian. I'm sorry, and he's like your head. 601 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: I'm like neck and he's like oh and just walked off. 602 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, okay, I just do this open 603 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: looking at the F one Academy. How's your experience been. 604 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: I guess you've kind of now become this spokesperson for 605 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: females in motorsport and you're still so young. How's your 606 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: experience been, Like, You've had incredible exposure and media interviews 607 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: and all of these things. As I said at the 608 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: top of the episode, you're doing amazing things. But how 609 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: has that been to have I guess a pretty big 610 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: responsibility to suddenly become this spokesperson. 611 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: I think, well, I had to do to a couple 612 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: of media to training days before this all started because 613 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: it was a bit interesting at the start. But I've 614 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: kind of really enjoyed it. I didn't think I was 615 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: gonna I was always like, oh, ell the camera, Like 616 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 3: I don't want to go near it. I've always been 617 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: motor motorsport motorsport and you know, you're just driving and 618 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: dealing with that side of things. But then it kind 619 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: of helps you explore the media and journalism and all 620 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: that side of the sport in a way, because it 621 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: pretty much is a part of the sport once you 622 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: go through. And I don't know, I'm really enjoying it. 623 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: It's been hectic. So I was the ambassador at the 624 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: melburn In Grand Prix and that week was flat flat out, 625 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: and then from then on it's just been every time 626 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: I come home, it's just media mediam me, meet A 627 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: meet her, and I'm like, I'm used to it now. 628 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: But then I'm like, Okay, it's gonna be a fun week. 629 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: Like I get to talk about the sport, and I 630 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: get to talk about things that aren't kind of shown 631 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: on your Instagram where it's just perfect life traveling around 632 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: driving a race car, when realistically, you know, there's budget struggles, 633 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: there's you know, your training, your ass or can I 634 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: say that you're finding your ass off, and just you know, 635 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: working really hard. And I think a lot of people 636 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: think we kind of take it a bit for granted 637 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: when we're we're our athletes and we're working really really 638 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: hard to try and you know, get our career from 639 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: such a young age as well. You know, I haven't 640 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: even finished school yet and I'd had to decide at 641 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: the age of twelve what i wanted to do. So 642 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those sports that you've got 643 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: to commit young and just go for it. And you 644 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: know there's kids in Europe that at a job in 645 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: car carts at the age of four and their parents 646 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: are committing them to be Formula One drivers from then. 647 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: So you know, it's one of those sports you eat, breathe, sleep, 648 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 3: and just repeat it on daily and you kind of 649 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: have to. You know, media and that side of things 650 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: is one of those things that just get thrown into 651 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: it once we get to kind of the Formula route, 652 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: and I've had to learn very quickly how to deal 653 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: with it and kind of balance it because I think 654 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: I was all racing, racing, racing, but then I've realized 655 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: that these are kind of two different jobs. Like I 656 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: am a race car driver, but then I've got a 657 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: media whole media. I've got to work on my Instagram. 658 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: I've got to do that side of things and build 659 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: a platform for myself there because for females at the moment, 660 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: I think if we build a platform that's big enough 661 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: that we can help try and fund our racing through 662 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: it's one of the ways to get us throughout the sport. 663 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: And it's it's kind of cool, but then it's kind 664 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: of annoying in a way because you know, I want 665 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: to focus on my racing and you know, your sport 666 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: comes first, but then you've got to be taking some 667 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: photos and doing everything at the track and going to 668 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: see fans, you know, like I love doing it. But 669 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: then at the end of the day, when you're having 670 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: a bad weekend, you don't want to go out there 671 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: and talk to the cameras. You want to go back 672 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: and you with your engineer and sit there for hours 673 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: and just work it out and then go home and 674 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: study it. But then you've got to do your Instagram 675 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: post for the day and kind of I think romanticize 676 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: it in a way that you know, it wasn't that bad, 677 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: but it was. It was pretty I'm pretty honest my 678 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: Instagram like it was not a good day. But I 679 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: think going into Ethne Academy, the media was quite full 680 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: on at the start, but then I think now it's 681 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: just it's just become my norm. So you know, at 682 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: the track we do have quite a bit of media, 683 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: but you know, Susie's kind of put it in there. 684 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: We are Formula one gond PRIs. We need the exposure 685 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: for girls to continue through the sport and it's not 686 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: the best thing, but it's where females and sport is 687 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: at for motorsports are at right now, so you know, 688 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: you've got to kind of take it and just run 689 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: with it. 690 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: And EF One Academy has now a Netflix series, Y. 691 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: Which is huge. It was so good. I loved it. 692 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what has that been like? Because are 693 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: their camera crews following you around the track? 694 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: What does it look like? Or is that that was 695 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: last year's filming? So I wasn't involved in it, but 696 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: I know that the girls were talking about last year 697 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: that there were quite a few camera crews and they 698 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: really get in depth of buying the scenes and the stuff, 699 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: say they're warm ups, and you know, I think we 700 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: saw with the season that they went into the engineering 701 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: and kind of showed how tough it can actually be. 702 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: We're not just there walking around, Oh I'm going to 703 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: jump in my race card now, Like not just a 704 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: bunch of girls driving cars around for fun. Like we're 705 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: doing this seriously. We're here to make a career for ourselves. 706 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people think it's just 707 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: a media kind of clout grab in a way when 708 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: it's not. We do all the media and everything because 709 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: we need to be able to get the sponsorship and 710 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: backing and these days doing podcasts like this and being 711 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: a posts on social media and getting viral videos of 712 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: yourself getting ready to get in the car. That's at 713 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's going to make if 714 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: you can get the funding to be able to go 715 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: do another series. And I think now being involved in 716 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: F one Academy, I think I've been able to separate 717 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: those two things. At the start, when it was a 718 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: women's series and e fun academy, I was never too 719 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: eager because I was a bit nervous about what it 720 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: was going to be like. But then being a part 721 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: of it now and having the amazing opportunity, I'll be like, 722 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: this has saved my career in a way. Wow, without 723 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: this seat, wouldn't I wouldn't be racing this year. 724 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: So it's huge. 725 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the financial side about the budget, the budget 726 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 3: to be able to race this series is a pinch 727 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: of salt to go race in Italian or British series 728 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: and then the damage. Obviously we still pay for damage, 729 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: but then you've got F one team's backing you, or 730 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: you've got I've got tag Hoya. So it's one of 731 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: the most historic motorsport watch brands that there are. So 732 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: you know, there've been a massive support and they put 733 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: you on their feed and then you get more exposure, 734 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: and it's just it's just all about exposure for us 735 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: really and that series, and you know it is an academy, 736 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: so they are helping us learn and helping us develop 737 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: as drivers as well. 738 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: And what's the dream? 739 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: I think Formula one is the main answer, whether that 740 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: happens or not. I just want to race professionally as 741 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: a job in whatever car, you know, whether it be 742 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: a gt F two, go to go through the Formula 743 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: one route is the dream. And then you've got IndyCar 744 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: in the US, which is the pinnacle there, and then 745 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: you've got you know, NASCAR. You literally drive anything. If 746 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: you're going to see in anything. What I always say 747 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: is you get an opportunity to take it. So whether 748 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: if I get someone knocks on the door tomorrow and 749 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: says I want you to come drive an IndyCar tomorrow morning, 750 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm there. I put my flights up there. But it's 751 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: just I think for females it's just whatever you can take, 752 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: you can grab and right now they are there is 753 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: a big push for females to get to Formula one. 754 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: So hopefully it actually happens and we can have the 755 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: first female will be meat in Formula one. 756 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: I love that. I ask everyone on the podcast, what 757 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: is your favorite failure? 758 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: I think at the end of I Got two, can 759 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 3: I say to you? So at the end of last year, 760 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 3: I was trying originally First one Academy and I didn't 761 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: end up getting the seat that we were going for, 762 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: and I put my heart and soul into that, so, 763 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't end up getting that seat, and 764 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: I think it kind of broke me for a couple 765 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: of weeks because I put everything into it, and I 766 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: think even my coaches and my mom and dad and 767 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: everyone kind of saw it and they were like, we've 768 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: got to get back up and keep going. And it 769 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: was getting to December and I was like, We're not 770 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: gonna have receve for next year. I'm done, Like that's it. 771 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: I did my final race in India in their four 772 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: championship in October, and I kind of went out in 773 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 3: that race like this, this is could be my last race, 774 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: so I'm going to give it absolutely everything. And you know, 775 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: I crashed off first lap and I was so upset 776 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: and mad that I kind of you know, when you're 777 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: doing sport. He's going to a zone and you just 778 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 3: can't think of anything. It's just that like ground of 779 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: green zone, I guess they call it. And I was 780 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: fourteen seconds behind the last right, so first was a 781 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: million a lap down the road and I ended up 782 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: coming back through to six Wow in the span of 783 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, so, and I had been struggling a bit 784 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: in the car just because I was learning, and it 785 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: just kind of flicked the switch and I was It 786 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: was probably the funnest and just there's videos of just 787 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: the passes that I did, and it was just like 788 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: I was like a whole different person. And I think 789 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 3: that's kind of when they put the cherry on top 790 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: that if it was my last race, I was kind 791 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: of proud of it and I was happy with it, 792 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 3: so you know, we probably could have been on a podium, 793 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: but to kind of sign off that way, it probably 794 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: would have been good. And then when I didn't get that, 795 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: when I found out that the seat was kind of possible, 796 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this couldn not be my last racing. 797 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: I could be racing in front academy. And then when 798 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 3: we didn't, it broke me. But then I got back 799 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: up and I worked even started to work even harder 800 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: because I knew that there maybe one percent chance that 801 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 3: we had had another seat. So I think that was 802 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: probably one that's awesome. And then when I was in Cadets, 803 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: when I first went out in to go kart ever 804 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 3: first ever time, Mom and Dad were going to leave 805 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: the throttle like fifty percent, so I just didn't go 806 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: and do something bonkers. They didn't, so yeah, they got 807 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: so they put on me on the grid started that 808 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: went out and I just put my foot flat to 809 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: the floor and I did not get off till I 810 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: was out. I think Oakley Go Cut Club in Oakley. 811 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: You go through this first right straight and then a 812 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: second right straight. I got to the second one straight 813 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: under the fence into the wall first time in the 814 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 3: grown car. So yeah, that was one that was my 815 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: failure teach you anything. Break a little bit. I was yelling. 816 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: I was like, what did you do that for? They're like, 817 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 3: why didn't you just get off the gas? I was like, 818 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. I love that. 819 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Who has had the biggest impact on you 820 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: as a person, I'd say. 821 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: Mom and Dad. I think as a family. My family 822 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: are all quite close, like really close. So I think Mum, 823 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: because she obviously got me into the sport and we're 824 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: probably where I am now and probably still does my 825 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: flights and everything. So I just yeah, thanks Mom, But 826 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: I think without her kind of guidance, I probably wouldn't 827 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: be here. You know, it's hard for females. I'd say 828 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: back then, it wasn't that I'm not that old, but 829 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 3: like when I first started, there was one or two 830 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: girls at the track of four hundred so and I 831 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 3: kind of just fell into it because she was there, 832 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 3: and she guided me through the way and kind of 833 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: brain me to where I am now kind of in 834 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 3: the sport. And even looking back at it, I never 835 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: questioned whether it was alright for me to go and drive, 836 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: which I think a lot of girls still do now 837 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: because they don't they don't have a mom that's driving 838 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 3: around and go car a race car, like it's such 839 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 3: a unique thing to have, and I think I was 840 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 3: born into the right family for it. And then Dad 841 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: mechanics for me and my brother and my mum, and 842 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 3: now he's mechanics for my brother. But he just still 843 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: comes to the track with me, and they think we 844 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 3: just have that relationship where you can kind of switch 845 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 3: off the father figure and he can be that person 846 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 3: that you need to. He knows quite a lot about motorsport, 847 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: so he can be a driver, coach, it can be 848 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: a personal trainer. Sometimes I question his choices with that, 849 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 3: but anyway, he's he's pretty much the whole book. And 850 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 3: I think Canada I had him there and obviously we 851 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: made another step, so he took all that glory. He 852 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: was like, it's because I was there, so he's coming 853 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: to every other round. So if we have a good 854 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: round every other round, then I think I'm going to 855 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 3: have to have him there for the rest of my career. 856 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: But without both of them, I don't think. It's just 857 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 3: it worked so well growing up to have them both 858 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: do what they do and then pass it on to 859 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: me and my brother. 860 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: Say, if there was a young girl who's seen what 861 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: you've been doing, do you think there's enough opportunity now 862 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: that she could be like, I want to give this 863 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: a crack Or is it that thing like you said, 864 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: of needing to be born into the right family. 865 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: Definitely now, But then I don't think I mean, it's 866 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 3: possible if you have a really good family around you, 867 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: but you know, I had a couple of friends I 868 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: wanted to go do stuff and they'd be like the 869 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 3: parents would kind of brush it off and move on. 870 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: But I think now there's so many kind of there's 871 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: such a female in the sport, so there's so many programs, 872 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 3: there's so many opportunities. You can go to a track 873 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 3: and try a day with a bunch of girls. There's 874 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 3: a championship that is bringing I think half of the grid. 875 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: It started off with about five or six females. F 876 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 3: one Academy is actually running at the champions future program 877 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: in the karting and I think they select a couple 878 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: of girls, but then there's fifteen other girls that aren't 879 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: in that program that F one Academy have selected, but 880 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: they've made them want to go drive in that series. 881 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: So I think half the there's more girls on the 882 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 3: grid than there are males in that championship, which is 883 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 3: just awesome. And I went home and at the start 884 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: of this year to erase me and the amount of 885 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: females I saw with Race Roots on, I was like, 886 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Like I left and I was the 887 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: only girl on the grid, and I've come back and 888 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: there's like what nearly a third of girls on Wow 889 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: at the track so out of the whole entries, which 890 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 3: was just amazing compared to like eighth or tenth when 891 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 3: I was running. So I think it's so much more 892 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: of an inclusive, inclusive sport now, not probably to its 893 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 3: full potential, but I think it's it's growing quite fast, 894 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: and I think in a couple of years it's just 895 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 3: going to be the norm where it's just it's just 896 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 3: another sport any gender can go and try it out, 897 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: and it's not where they oh, she's a girl, she races. 898 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 3: It's just they're another racer. And I think that's kind 899 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 3: of what I wish it was when I was growing up, 900 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 3: because I always hated take my helmet off and they 901 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 3: give you a weird look, or they kind of they 902 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 3: wouldn't let they just stuff around with you on track 903 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: because they didn't want to female beating them. Or you'd 904 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: have those dads which should come up and say, I 905 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: can't believe you let that girl beat you. It's just 906 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 3: those little things and it's like there's no need. But 907 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 3: now I think I haven't heard of anything like that anymore, 908 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 3: and there's no more of it's just like another girl's 909 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: that the track is just normal. Yeah, it's becoming that 910 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 3: little normal. And if it's happening like that through the grassroots, 911 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: then as we go on, they're going to progress and 912 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 3: it's just going to become the the whole way through 913 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: which I hope. 914 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. Thank you so much for your time today. 915 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 2: We've loved watching you and cheering you on from a partner, 916 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: and it's been really cool to see. I feel like 917 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: you've just like taken it all in your stride and 918 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: all the media stuff just with like real grace and composures. 919 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 2: So it's been really special to sit down and chat 920 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 2: with you today. 921 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: Thank thanks so much, so much for having me. 922 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 923 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 924 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: could send it on to one person who you think 925 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: might enjoy it. 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