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Speaker 1: It's our podcast the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about ghosts.

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Speaker 3: I know your reference for ghosts is the Ghost of

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Speaker 3: Missus Muir show from the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 1: Hello, ma'am, how are you so?

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Speaker 2: What was the premise of that? Again?

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Speaker 1: He was an old sea captain who lived in his

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Speaker 1: old sea.

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Speaker 4: Captain house as a ghost, as a ghost, and no

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Speaker 4: one would buy the house because he was habiting the host.

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Speaker 2: He would appear wearing an our gold jumper and smoking.

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Speaker 4: And he'd scare off all the people. And then along

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Speaker 4: came a young widow, attractive woman with some kids, and

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Speaker 4: she was quite attractive, and he was beguiled by her.

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Speaker 2: And she kind of got him yep, and he she.

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Speaker 4: Said, I'm not leaving here, I'm not putting up with you,

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Speaker 4: and he'd and they had this relationship.

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Speaker 2: Than that.

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Speaker 1: I was very platonic. It's just like a normal marriage.

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Speaker 1: But he would, but we offer you.

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Speaker 3: And I used to speculate as to whether he'd watch

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Speaker 3: her in the shower that was never covered in the sitcom, when.

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Speaker 1: She was sleeping. Would he yeah, so mom, if I

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Speaker 1: was alive, I.

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Speaker 2: Would is that what he'd say? You make?

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Speaker 1: He would? He would look at her she was.

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Speaker 2: The thirties age as she was.

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Speaker 1: He was very hunky. Who was the actor?

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Speaker 2: He was a hunky old guy was he was.

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Speaker 1: Hunky old guy be asleep and he just looked at her.

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Speaker 2: What if she brought someone home?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's goes back is covered in one of the episodes.

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Speaker 3: A guy like the Brady Bunch when they were trying

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Speaker 3: to sell the house and the kids all dressed up and.

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Speaker 2: Whoo, I can't buy this it's haunted.

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Speaker 1: Was it like that the ghost?

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Speaker 2: No, that was a person who's going to buy the house.

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Speaker 4: Because the little Brady kids they came. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 4: ghost and missus miir forgotten the ghost? He did he

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Speaker 4: he'd just make windows open or a sudden race cloud

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Speaker 4: goes oh, and then ghost there was a guy, a

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Speaker 4: smooth guy doing any smooth moves, and he got scared because.

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Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, a big rain cloud

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Speaker 1: and maybe he made his dick fall office. I know

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Speaker 1: that's what i'd do. That's what I do.

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Speaker 4: If it was then me, would I would I say, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: who's been on the toilet for some time?

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Speaker 3: Haven't you Let me get back to why I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about this, This paranormal investigators believe that ghosts, like humans,

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Speaker 3: have a limited time span, and a number of the

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Speaker 3: big famous ones are dying out when all the.

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Speaker 2: Dat who's considered.

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Speaker 3: They say, this is after startying decades of paranormal analysis.

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Speaker 3: They say, it's quite a shock to think many of

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Speaker 3: our once famous ghosts could be literally dying twice.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 3: The study included one hundred well known haunted spots with

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Speaker 3: reportings of sightings and spirits spanning back hundreds of years.

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Speaker 3: So the Project half Life suggests that sentient ghosts seem

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Speaker 3: to have a limited life span like humans. In simple terms,

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Speaker 3: the second law of Fermidine Namis tells us that energy

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Speaker 3: tends to disperse and degrade over time. So I would argue,

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Speaker 3: they say, and that our findings show ghosts conform to

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Speaker 3: the second law of thermodynamics and appear to run out

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Speaker 3: of energy. Ghosts, they say, are interacting less than they

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Speaker 3: were one hundred years ago. You're going to enjoy this

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Speaker 3: particular story, Brendan. One ghost in particular who they think

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Speaker 3: is yet to die at second death but is likely

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Speaker 3: to happen very soon, is the ghost of Winston Churchill.

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Speaker 3: The wartime PM is haunting the women's toilet on the

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Speaker 3: Queen Mary. According to a ghoul hunter. This singer and

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Speaker 3: ghost expert Brocard claims she saw the cigar loving statesman

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Speaker 3: stalking the hallways, lurking around the women's labs on the

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Speaker 3: ship when it was docked in California.

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Speaker 1: What would he go there? Come on, well, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't smoke in other places on ships, the toilets is

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Speaker 3: the only place you can do it. He could have

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Speaker 3: chosen the men's So he's still being seen occasionally, sure,

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Speaker 3: but not as often as he was. So these ghosts

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in ghosts?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Do you No?

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that we know everything. I believe there's

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Speaker 3: some paranormal stuff, but I don't think there goes. Why

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Speaker 3: do ghost only appear at night? Why isn't it missus

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Speaker 3: KuPS who died two years ago?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree?

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Speaker 3: Why do they choose to reveal themselves sometimes and not others?

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Speaker 3: And some places are not others? Why don't they appear

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Speaker 3: while we're on the radio here and go do a

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Speaker 3: time call? Why don't they do that?

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Speaker 1: The ghost of eighties DJ?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never had a paranormal experience, although the closest

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Speaker 4: I've ever had. I worked at a resort down at

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Speaker 4: Charlotte's Pass is called the Chalet Hotel.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me that Winston Churchill was outside the lady's

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Speaker 3: toilet there too.

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Speaker 4: Having a quiet smoke, and there's a at the start

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Speaker 4: of the season, I was down there with the new manager.

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Speaker 1: So him and I this whole hotel.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's like the Shining Yeah, it's very much

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Speaker 4: overlook hotel. So it's already got that spectral vibe going

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Speaker 4: about it. And so Greg and I, this is the manager,

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Speaker 4: we're just sort of, you know, having a few drinks

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Speaker 4: in the bar. And I told him I'd been there

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Speaker 4: the season before and the Chalet Hotel famously had a

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Speaker 4: ghost apparently called Muldoon who'd hung himself in the hotel

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Speaker 4: and a lot of people the year before.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, you know, have you seen Muldoon yet?

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Speaker 2: You said, had you seen him?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I hadn't.

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Speaker 4: But like I used to smoke a lot of weed

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Speaker 4: back then as well, so there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: times and even when there was a lot of people

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Speaker 4: in the hotel, it was kind of creepy. And so

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Speaker 4: I was telling Greg about this, and the challenge was

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Speaker 4: the season before. It was to walk along the top

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Speaker 4: and dark and creepy at night, by yourself and walked

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Speaker 4: And that was the challenge, and no one would witness

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Speaker 4: do yourself. So I told Greg about this and he

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Speaker 4: said we should do it, and I said, ah, you reckon, okay,

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Speaker 4: sure you know. And as only him and I in

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Speaker 4: go first. So I went up the stairs and the

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Speaker 4: very ornate staircase and there's those little light sconces on

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Speaker 1: So I walked to the top of the stairs and

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Speaker 4: Corridor and I can still hear the music from the

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Speaker 4: the corridor, the music suddenly dims to a point where

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Speaker 4: I can't really hear it, like and he was the

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Speaker 4: wishing of my pulse in my ear.

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Speaker 1: And then as I met coming to the end, I

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Speaker 1: swear I could see a shape. I just I'm not

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Speaker 1: too sure. It's just and you know, when you're straining

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, and I look down and the walls gonce

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Speaker 4: lights they're not on anymore, and I'm going, hang on,

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Speaker 4: Light's gone off. And then I'm looking at the shape

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Speaker 4: and I said, okay, I've gone far enough.

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Speaker 1: There was still another.

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Speaker 4: I reckon twenty thirty feet till I got to the

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Speaker 1: So I've turned around and started walking back walking because

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I'm going, bug of this and

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Speaker 4: I'm now I'm running and I've gone screaming down the staircase.

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Speaker 1: And then something's jumped out. It's Lady the guy Greg.

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Speaker 4: He was waiting at the middle landing to scare the

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Speaker 4: hell out of me, but he didn't expect.

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Speaker 1: Me coming down the stairs.

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Speaker 2: So quickly is he switching the lights on and off.

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Speaker 1: This is the thing.

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Speaker 4: We both ran into each other, little bit fell down

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Speaker 4: the stairs, this big ornate staircase, and we're laughing so much.

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Speaker 1: About it, and I said, yeah, good on you. Your dickhead.

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Speaker 1: And he said, oh man, you scared the shit out

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Speaker 1: of me and we're just doing that.

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Speaker 4: And I said, good work turning the lights off, and

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Speaker 4: he went, I didn't turn the lights off.

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Speaker 2: And whose shape was it? What is it him?

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Speaker 4: No, that was at the end of the corridor. He

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Speaker 4: was waiting at the land. I don't know what it was,

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Speaker 4: but here's the thing. He's the thing the light. I

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Speaker 4: turned around, said, you switched the lights off. And I

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Speaker 4: looked at the staircase and the lights were back on.

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Speaker 4: But then I think were the lights on all the time?

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Speaker 4: And it just it was the power of suggestion. It

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Speaker 4: was really.

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Speaker 2: Oh so that doesn't answer whether there was something there

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it as I get older.

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Speaker 4: My at that time, if you'd asked me, I was

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Speaker 4: nineteen back then, if you asked me, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I believe in ghosts.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more a power of suggestion in your mind.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're smoking the dope now.

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Speaker 1: I'm off the weed now, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, kids,

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Speaker 1: get safe for today.

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Speaker 2: Come back to more from more of Jonesy and a

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