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Speaker 1: Do you find yourself often craving sweet foods or maybe

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Speaker 1: you enjoy a sweet treat after dinner. Today on the

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Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch, we have some new research to show that

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Speaker 1: adding some sweetness to your diet is not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: bad thing and the best foods to reach for when

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Speaker 1: you do have some sweet cravings.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Leanne Ward and I'm Sissy Burrow, and together.

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Speaker 1: We bring you the Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that

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Speaker 1: keeps you up to date on everything that you need

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Speaker 1: to know in the world of nutrition. As well as

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Speaker 1: sweet cravings, we also chat about whether steak and avocado

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Speaker 1: is a good choice for breakfast. We have a quick

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Speaker 1: and easy chicken option from Wilworth and our listener question

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Speaker 1: is all about men versus women when it comes to

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Speaker 1: weight loss. But to kick us up today, we're talking

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Speaker 1: all things breakfast steak. Because if you're on TikTok and

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Speaker 1: Sissy and I like to have a little scroll through

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Speaker 1: TikTok every now and then, you will probably see quite

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Speaker 1: a lot of influences and even some of those people

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Speaker 1: in that health space eating a lot of steak, eggs

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Speaker 1: and avocado for breakfast. And you may have thought to

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Speaker 1: yourself what the heck is going on? Because it's certainly

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Speaker 1: an interesting world out there, isn't it. SUSI the whole

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Speaker 1: influencer social media space, and we just seem to be

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Speaker 1: drawn to people who look good and who are fit

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Speaker 1: and healthy, and we think, why are they eating that?

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Speaker 2: Is there something to it?

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Speaker 1: And I remember seeing the steak and egg trend many

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Speaker 1: many months ago when it really seems to have taken

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Speaker 1: kind of the next diet or the next fad when.

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Speaker 2: It comes to nutrition.

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Speaker 1: So many people are sitting down and having steak, eggs,

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Speaker 1: and avocado for breakfast, and it's kind of like we've

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Speaker 1: been through the whole low carb area. We've come out

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Speaker 1: the other side. We understand calves are important. And then

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Speaker 1: when I'm seeing all of these people eating steak at

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Speaker 1: like seven am for breakfast, I'm kind of thinking to myself, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I definitely couldn't stomach that at breakfast. But like, where

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Speaker 1: does this come from? Like what is with people eating

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Speaker 1: steak and eggs? And again, a lot of the messaging

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Speaker 1: out there is, oh, it keeps your blood sugar levels

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Speaker 1: more controlled, it's high protein and I'm arguing with that,

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Speaker 1: but there are certainly other ways to get in a

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Speaker 1: balanced amount of calves are higher protein diet, some healthy.

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Speaker 2: Vats in your diet.

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Speaker 1: If you don't actually want to sit down and have steak,

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Speaker 1: eggs and avocado for breakfast, because to me, it's less

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Speaker 1: than appealing at that time in the morning, but it's

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Speaker 1: also something that's pretty time intensive to actually cook like

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Speaker 1: that would take me a good, you know, at least

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes also to actually cook some steaks, some eggs

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Speaker 1: and put some avocado and stuff on a plate, Whereas

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Speaker 1: if you were to whip up a quick oatmeal or

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Speaker 1: make some overnight oats the night before, that would be

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Speaker 1: just like a grab and go breakfast in the morning.

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Speaker 1: And I know for a lot of my ladies, Susie,

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Speaker 1: it's actually eating a properly balanced.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast, which is the issue because there's.

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Speaker 1: So time poor, let alone sitting down and making a

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Speaker 1: there are probably potentially for some people some health impacts

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Speaker 1: There's there is a little bit of fiber from the avocado,

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Speaker 1: in terms of balancing some good carbohydrate whole grain sources,

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Speaker 3: Now, I think it goes back to the anti carb

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Speaker 3: movement of the nineties and millennial and certain it takes

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Speaker 3: me back to watching Anna Wintur or depictions of Anna

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Speaker 3: cappuccinos and a big juicy steak in greens for lunch

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Speaker 3: first of all, if you did eat a lean steak

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a high protein meal, but there's also

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Speaker 2: So that's a week though, wasn't it three fifty grams

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most people would interpret that as a day,

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Speaker 1: but it's not as an entire week. Some people could

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Speaker 3: Of all the lifestyle data related to disease risk go

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Speaker 3: you know. Really it's more plant based diets with small

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Speaker 3: from that perspective, not great. Second, it will pay havoc

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Speaker 3: not going to the bathroom, they feel bloated. Now, a

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Speaker 3: heavy meat meal in the morning, when your body is

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Speaker 3: And Third, there's a lot of nutritional benefits that come

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Speaker 3: are crucial for cognitive function. Now, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: I don't have any women who come to me craving

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Speaker 3: things that if someone has a great passion for it,

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Speaker 4: That's not what this is suggesting.

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Speaker 3: It's much more about routine eating and the benefits that

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Speaker 3: come from a high protein, savory breakfast, which we're going

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Speaker 3: So I think you've got to take those headlines with

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Speaker 3: something people will click on something different. But in terms

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Speaker 3: most days of alone, cook up with steak and veggies. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, like anything, I think it's just the headline

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Speaker 3: very few people I know crave a big steak first

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the other thing is you mentioned steak and

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Speaker 1: extra serves of vegetables. I guess we wouldn't have too

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Speaker 1: But I really do feel like it would just contribute

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Speaker 3: True, And let's be clearly, and it's really hard to

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Speaker 4: They're not lean.

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Speaker 3: You really have to pay to get very lean steak

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Speaker 3: which have been further strained and made low fat. They've

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Speaker 3: taken the fat away and really concentrated the protein.

436
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Speaker 4: They're still very functional.

437
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Speaker 3: We use them all the time, particularly with breakfast meals

438
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Speaker 3: and as high protein snacks for women. But Greek yoga

439
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Speaker 3: is just slightly different. It's a less process form and

440
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Speaker 3: a bit lower in protein, a bit higher in fat,

441
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Speaker 3: but as such you still get the creaminess and the

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Speaker 3: richness of flavor which it's referring to in that study.

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Speaker 2: All right, And then our next segment.

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Speaker 1: I was browsing at will West as we do as dieticians,

445
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 1: and my kids wanted chicken nuggets.

446
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 2: Little Mimi requested nuggets for dinner.

447
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 3: You because last time you got the macas and you

448
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 3: were like, I can't do that again.

449
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 2: My kids have never had backers.

450
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Speaker 1: Me.

451
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 2: He's never had mackers. I proudly, proudly say that.

452
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Speaker 1: I don't mean she will one day, but I largely

453
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 1: managed to avoid that so far.

454
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Speaker 2: But no, she's never had nuggets. She doesn't even know

455
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 2: what it is.

456
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 4: Well, how do they know what chicken nuggets are?

457
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Speaker 1: No, because if we go out to a restaurant, you

458
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Speaker 1: know how on the kids' menus there's always like nuggets

459
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: and chips, or there's like spaghetti, bolin, eggs yea. And

460
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 1: because with her allergies and stuff, because she had sesame

461
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 1: allergy when she was a lot younger as well when

462
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 1: she's now thankfully grown out of I could never get

463
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Speaker 1: her like a butt like. I was always very picky

464
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 1: about what I got. So she's pretty much always had

465
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Speaker 1: some form of hot chips and maybe a chicken nugget

466
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Speaker 1: when we've been out, because they're safely the routine, you know,

467
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: no nut, no sesame options on the menu, and so

468
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Speaker 1: she'll have a couple of nuggets if we go out

469
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Speaker 1: to a restaurant or something. So she's like, can I

470
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Speaker 1: have nuggets for dinner? I was like, no worries, And

471
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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really have time to make it.

472
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Speaker 2: I was at the shops.

473
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Speaker 1: I thought, I've got a couple of minutes to grab something.

474
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: And I found these pretty good options at Womats and

475
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 1: they taste really good and both Tilly and me. I

476
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Speaker 1: had them for dinner the other night and they were

477
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Speaker 1: really they were really happy meals that I like these, Mommy,

478
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 1: can we have more? And I was pretty impressed nutritionally,

479
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 1: And I managed to pick them up on sale as

480
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Speaker 1: well for about twenty or thirty percent off, I think,

481
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: so they're there will worst chicken breast bites original three

482
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Speaker 1: hundred grams, so they're quite a large box. You know

483
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Speaker 1: they're going to last a couple of meals, because you're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna build them out with other things. You're not just

485
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Speaker 1: going to serve twelve nuggets.

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Speaker 2: On a plate.

487
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Speaker 1: So wills they retail at nine dollars, but this week

488
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Speaker 1: they're on sale at seven dollars, and that was a

489
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when I picked them up. They're

490
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Speaker 1: about seven dollars for the box as well, so there

491
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Speaker 1: certainly weren't the cheapest option on the market, but they're

492
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Speaker 1: the best nutritionally, and you're paying the extra money for

493
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Speaker 1: the protein because when we look at the ingredient list,

494
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Speaker 1: there's seventy five percent RSPCA approved chicken breast. Seventy five

495
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Speaker 1: percent is huge for a nugget. There are some chicken

496
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Speaker 1: nuggets out there, or you know, those Dino nuggets or

497
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Speaker 1: whatever form of coated crumb chicken that you want to do.

498
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Speaker 1: Some of them are as low as thirty percent. So

499
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Speaker 1: to have something that's one hundred percent chicken breast RSPCO

500
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Speaker 1: approved it seventy five percent is massive, and the other

501
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Speaker 1: twenty five percent is just the coating.

502
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Speaker 2: That's it.

503
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Speaker 1: So it's seventy five percent chicken, twenty five percent coating

504
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: and the coating is made up of with flour, water,

505
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Speaker 1: canola oil, wheat, starch, rice flour, maize, flour, some spices,

506
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: some mineral salt, a little bit of wig powder, and

507
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: some vegetable extract. So quite a good ingredient list. Look,

508
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Speaker 1: if you were making them yourself from home, absolutely they'd

509
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Speaker 1: be better. You'd get some little chicken filets, you'd egg

510
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: wash them, and then you'd you know, blitz up some

511
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: really nice dense whole grain bread and you dip that

512
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Speaker 1: and then you'd wack it in the air fry.

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Speaker 2: If I had more time, would that be the gold steaded? Absolutely?

514
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Speaker 1: But these are pretty good for busy parents, like I

515
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Speaker 1: was really happy to serve this to my little kids.

516
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Speaker 1: I was quite happy, and they tasted pretty good. I

517
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Speaker 1: had to try myself. So nutrition information panel wise, per serving,

518
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Speaker 1: they're saying you're serving size is one hundred gram, so

519
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: that's about a third of the packet. So I probably

520
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Speaker 1: used a third of the packet between my two kids.

521
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Speaker 1: But they were only quite little, you know, they're only

522
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Speaker 1: two in one. So if you had older kids, obviously,

523
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Speaker 1: maybe you might use the whole box. Maybe you just

524
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Speaker 1: use half of a box. But I think a one

525
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: hundred gram serving size is pretty good for older kids basically,

526
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Speaker 1: so energy wise, it's seven hundred and fifty kilodials with

527
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: eighteen grams of protein is serving, which for kids or

528
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 1: young kids is very very high, particularly when you compare

529
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Speaker 1: that to other types of chicken nuggets or crumb chicken

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Speaker 1: on the market. It's quite low fat four point five

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Speaker 1: grams with only one gram being saturated, fifteen point eight

532
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: grams of carbohydrate per serving, one point six grams of sugar,

533
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: one point three grams of dietary fiber, and two hundred

534
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Speaker 1: and fifty milligrams of sodium. So I was pretty happy

535
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Speaker 1: with both the ingredients and the nutrition information panel for this.

536
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Speaker 1: I think it's a really really strong product. I like

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Speaker 1: that Coals and Wilworth are really stepping up and making

538
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Speaker 1: some better products as well, and like I said that

539
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Speaker 1: it's easy to build this out with a functional meal.

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Speaker 1: I gave my kids some sweet potato chips with them.

541
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Speaker 1: We've talked about them on the podcast before I got

542
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Speaker 1: the Coals brand soup potato ones, which I just popped

543
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Speaker 1: both of them in the air fra and I chopped

544
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Speaker 1: up a bit of cucumber, some cherry tomatoes and served

545
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Speaker 1: it with a bit of steam brocoli and that's what

546
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Speaker 1: my kids ate. They absolutely loved it, and it was

547
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Speaker 1: a pretty good nourishing meal which I was able to

548
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Speaker 1: pull together in literally about ten fifteen minutes flat. While

549
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Speaker 1: the stuff was in the air, for I was chopping

550
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Speaker 1: up and cooking a bit of the vegetables and that

551
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: was it. So for me, that's a really quick and

552
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Speaker 1: easy option just to have in the freezer. For I

553
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Speaker 1: think I did this on a Friday night. I had,

554
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Speaker 1: you know, busy day All day. I was like, I'm

555
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Speaker 1: not sitting down to like make homemande Chigan. So I

556
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Speaker 1: think this is a really great option for busy parents,

557
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Speaker 1: and it's a good thing to always have in the freezer,

558
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Speaker 1: even if you've got people, you know that pop over

559
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Speaker 1: on the weekend randomly the kids are a bit hungry.

560
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Speaker 1: Serving something like this on a little bit of a

561
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Speaker 1: platter versus pulling out the biscuits and the lollies and

562
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: the chippies, it's actually going to be a better option.

563
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Speaker 1: This with some vegetable sticks and a bit of dip

564
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Speaker 1: and cheese or you know, a bit of flat bread.

565
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Speaker 1: It's a really great option just to tie particularly growing

566
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Speaker 1: kids over that little bit. Because they're like bottomless pits.

567
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just can't fill them up with snack foods.

568
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Speaker 1: So I think these are a really great option to

569
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Speaker 1: add to like a little grazing platter as well.

570
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

571
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

572
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Speaker 3: I've liked them for some time and often recommend them

573
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Speaker 3: that convenient way, just to quickly add some protein to

574
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Speaker 3: a salad.

575
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Speaker 1: You know.

576
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just get sick of tin tuna, or you think,

577
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: oh I want something different, a bit tasty, So I

578
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: sometimes get my women to just put a few pieces

579
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: into a heat them up and put them into a salad.

580
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: It just translates any salad into something delicious, you know.

581
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Speaker 3: So I use them for a while. But it is

582
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Speaker 3: funny that you say about giving them to kids for snacks,

583
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Speaker 3: because my boys are getting a bit older now, they're

584
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Speaker 3: almost nine, and when their friends come over, they are

585
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Speaker 3: like bottomless pits. So I've been keeping now. I couldn't

586
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Speaker 3: use these products with them because they're too expensive, Like

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Speaker 3: my boys woud demolish a box eage. So I tee

588
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Speaker 3: you the products I get when I go to Costco.

589
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Speaker 3: I get the big bag of wholeweel crumbed staggules tenderloins

590
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Speaker 3: and use them when the kids have friends over. And

591
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Speaker 3: you know what else I've been using. They're actually not

592
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Speaker 3: that healthy, unfortunately, but they're delicious is Ikia meatballs. Our

593
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: kids go crazy for the Ikea meatballs and you can

594
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Speaker 3: just keep them in the freezer and there's a hundred

595
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Speaker 3: times better than getting you know, maca take away pete,

596
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: so at least they're getting some protein and the boys

597
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: love them. So when we co the mums, we have

598
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: to like buy all these packets and distribute them with

599
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: all the mums because we don't got to I care

600
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Speaker 3: that often, but I do find you right, it's a

601
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Speaker 3: much smarter snack for kids, and better than any kind

602
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Speaker 3: of snack food, whether it's chips or they're getting some

603
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: protein in the case that someone's getting some iron. But yeah,

604
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: going back to the Woolies ones, there's different flavors as well,

605
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Speaker 3: and they're often on sale, I've noticed, so they're just

606
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Speaker 3: a handy thing to keep in the freezer we get home.

607
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: You can do a few of them on a plate

608
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Speaker 3: with a salad bag and again a million times cheaper

609
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: and more nutritious than any kind of takeaway food and tasty.

610
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a big fan as well, and I

611
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: do use them myself at home and recommend them to

612
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Speaker 3: my clients.

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Speaker 4: So good.

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Speaker 3: Finally, all right, well for our final question of the day,

615
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Speaker 3: This one made me laugh. It came through our Instagram,

616
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Speaker 3: where we get most of our Q and A, so

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Speaker 3: feel free to keep popping those through if you see

618
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Speaker 3: products in the supermarket. It's a way that we can

619
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Speaker 3: sort of try and answer as many of our listener

620
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Speaker 3: questions as possible. And it was wide as my husband

621
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Speaker 3: change one thing in his diet and lose five kilos

622
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Speaker 3: and I lose nothing. I think along those lines, why

623
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Speaker 3: is it so much easier for men to lose weight

624
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: than women? And it absolutely is, and it's pretty basic

625
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: physiology as to why. First and foremost, on average, men

626
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 3: are much bigger frames physiologically, and even if they're not

627
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: a bigger frame, they will have significantly more muscle mass.

628
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Now as soon as they start to move it, or

629
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Speaker 3: eat a bit less or go for a run, they

630
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: just burn so many more calories than we do. Going

631
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Speaker 3: back to hunting gatherer days where they're out catching the

632
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: lions for dinner.

633
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Speaker 4: So there's really not a whole lot we can do

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Speaker 4: about it.

635
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Speaker 3: I anecdotally think that men are often less food focused

636
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Speaker 3: as well, Like they often not for always good, but

637
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: they often don't eat much in the day and sort

638
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: of just have that one meal at night, and then

639
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: when they are focused, they really don't have as much

640
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: difficulty saying no to food. Male social occasions do not

641
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: generally center around food the same way that women do.

642
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: Women are often the cooks and the nurturers, are often cooking,

643
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: preparing and around food a whole lot more, whereas men

644
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 3: tend to not. And that's a blatant, you know, generalization,

645
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: but I do think it happens.

646
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Speaker 4: They don't think about food the way we do. That

647
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: it takes snacks with them to work.

648
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: They literally eat what crosses their path, and quite possibly physiologically,

649
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: they're not driven to eat to the same extent as women,

650
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: because women, particularly women of reproductive age, you know, physiologically,

651
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Speaker 3: we're programmed to preserve our reproductive health and have calories

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Speaker 3: always available, whereas men don't have that they can store

653
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: and go for a lot longer. So anecdotally, I think

654
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: they're not as interested in food. That don't snack as much,

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Speaker 3: they're less tempted, and then as soon as they eat

656
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Speaker 3: a bit less or eat more protein or run a

657
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: bit bang, they just burn more. So unfortunately, there's no

658
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: point bitching about it. It's just the way we are.

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00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: And they generally will always lose weight a lot more

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Speaker 3: easily than women, unless they've got severe sort of instun

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Speaker 3: resistance or diabetes, where they also will struggle. But younger

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00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: guys who are still you know, maybe carrying five ten

663
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: kilos and below forty or even fifty probably will lose

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Speaker 3: weight pretty quickly when they put their mind to it.

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00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so frustrating, isn't it. As you said, there's

666
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: nothing really much we can do about it.

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00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: Well, look at David, your husband, like David.

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Speaker 3: Every time I see them, I think, oh my god,

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00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: poor David looking so lean, because unless like when I'm there,

670
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: if we offer him food, he'll eat it, but he

671
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: never goes and gets any food. Whereas we're like so focused,

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00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: what are we eating?

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: What's for lunch? We've got a snack exactly, and we're

674
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: going out for lunch and he's like it's ten o'clock.

675
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: We're like yeah, yeah, but we're just thinking about us

676
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: when we go out, and he just doesn't think about

677
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: food all day long. But if I put it in

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00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: front of him, he will eat two three plates of it.

679
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: But they just don't.

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00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: And again this is anecdotal, but they just don't think

681
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: about food. And also they don't have the sweet cravings

682
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: and the hormones that women do. They don't get their

683
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: periods once a month. They aren't not going through perimenopause

684
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: for ten years. Like I say to David, oh, I

685
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: just really need some chocolate, and he's like, we don't need.

686
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: It, do we just don't need it.

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00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're so again anecdotal, but I feel like

688
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Mannesot black and white. When it comes to nutrition, they're like, oh,

689
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose weight. I just won't eat it,

690
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: whereas with women and we're like, oh my goodness, I've

691
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: got to think about this and the snacks and do

692
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I need to bring some food with me?

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00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: What are we gonna eat when we go here? Like

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Speaker 2: we're just we just see. I think it's also because.

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00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: We seem to, you know, take care of the whole

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00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: household as well. We are constantly thinking about food, like

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00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: I know in my household, you know, David does a

698
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: lot of he does all the yard work and all

699
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, so he's outburning the calories. I'm

700
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, thinking about what the kids are

701
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: going to have for dinner, getting them in the bath.

702
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: So it might just be those different I don't know

703
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: gender roles, but as you said, men do have more

704
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: muscle mass in general, that's just physiologically what happens. And

705
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: also they have multestosterone, so they will burn easier as well.

706
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes males will also have more active jobs and what

707
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: females do, particularly if they're like, you know, in some

708
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: sort of trade or you know, a quite an active job.

709
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing is the hormones. Like

710
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: for women, like, it's not just particularly as we get older,

711
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: the ovulation seems to be a lot harder as well.

712
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: It's not just when the.

713
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: Period hits, it's three four days out before that when

714
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: the cravings and the hormones can go out of whack

715
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a bit. So, I don't know, I feel like poor

716
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: women were on the back foot a bit. It is

717
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: so much harder. We just cannot compare ourselves to men.

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00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: We just cannot because it's just so much harder to

719
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: make you feel better though, Like, just take a look

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00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: at men. Women generally age heaps better, Like look at

721
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: in their fifties sixty seventies, like you're just like, you're

722
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: not looking amazing. But women who look fifty sixty, you think, wow,

723
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: they're aging beautifully. You know, So pros and cons people,

724
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: pros and cons. The women tend to look pretty good

725
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: as they get a bit older as the men down

726
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: here very quickly. And just you know, lean on your

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Speaker 1: girlfriends and the females in your life for support. Males

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00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: just for most of them, just don't get it. They're like,

729
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: just don't eat it. It's that easy. And you know,

730
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: the females in your life will be like, come on, baby,

731
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you got those The hormones are horrible.

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Speaker 2: Way you got this.

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Speaker 1: So I think let's lean on our female counterparts for

734
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Speaker 1: that little bit of support.

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Speaker 2: So it is, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any point getting upset or frustrated

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Speaker 1: about it. It is frustrating, but there's nothing much we

738
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Speaker 1: can do about it. So keep on your journey, stay

739
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Speaker 1: in your own lane, and just do the best you

740
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: can and use your female counterparts for a little bit

741
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: of support and motivation.

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Speaker 3: But also make sure the male in your life is

743
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Speaker 3: not acting then as a saboteur, because if they're then

744
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: bringing chips or chocolates at night and tempting you or saying,

745
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: go on, have extra wine, like put them right in

746
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: their place, like they need to be supportive because you

747
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: just can't get away with it that kind of food.

748
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, feel free to put them in their place

749
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Speaker 3: in that space.

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Speaker 2: Very true, very true. All right.

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