1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Amy Torbert and I'm currently covered in paint after painting 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: all weekends. That's not new. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: All your clothes are literally paint at the moment. I'm 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: safe to Albert, and this week I finally started on 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: my doll's house, so I've starting to fit in some 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: beautiful floorboards at the moments looking good. Kate did have 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: a bet that I wouldn't actually get on with it 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: and do anything with it. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: I love that I'm like renovating my home and you're 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: actually renovating your dolls. It's all I can afford at 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the moment. Actually, so if my bet was that you 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: would do it, so keep go. I'm Kate Torbert and 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: my face is feeling really tight today because I am 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: on day two of a chemical pill on My face 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of a snake, like it feels 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: like snake skin that's shiny. 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: It's interesting because all your freckles, the dark ones have 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: kind of risen to the top. They've gotten darker from 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: the pill. I'm excited to see them come off. 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to start peeling off anyway. 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: On today's show, Olivia Rodgers professionally styled US wardrobe Sophie 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Casia's Italian themed engagement party, and have Abby and Conrad 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: called it quits. But first, Roxy Jasenko's daughter Pixie Curtis 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: has thrown herself a forty thousand dollars nightclub theme party 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: for her eleventh birthday. So if we definitely didn't have 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: parties like this when we were growing up, No, we 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: really didn't. 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: Ours were usually held at Charlie's Diner, which was an 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: old school or you can eat restaurant, but Pixie's was 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 2: a little more high end than now. So her event 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: was held at Laporter Space in Sydney, and I did 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: take a little sneaky look at their website and it's 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: described as Australia's leading luxury events space which offers a 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: range of Scandinavian design studios that are perfect for fashion shows, 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: brand activations, cocktail parties, media dinners and corporate events. Now 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: I think they will have to add eleventh birthday parties 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: to that growing list, But did. 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: You expect anything less? Her mum is Roxy Jsenko, who's 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: well known for throwing events. Well exactly. Roxy does own 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: Sweaty Betty pr Agency. She's huge in events. Now, I 43 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: am assuming that. 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Roxy must have described this event to the parents as 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: a disco theme, but the space was very much set 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: up as a nightclub, so the kids were greeted with 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: mocktails on their arrival and the club theme continued. They 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: had a bartender who was doing tricks with a cocktail 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: shaker and also blowing fire. And my favorite touch was 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: that the kids were wearing lanyards which said Pixie's VIP. 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what. I just had a flashback to 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: when we were invited to one of the girls at 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: school's birthday party and she had those fads remember those 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: fake cigarettes? Oh my mum didn't want to ask he 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: to the party. Yeah, and mum cracked it. I wonder 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: if there were any parents that were like, I do 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: not want my kids at this nightclub themed party. Well, 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: you would think it would be the hottest ticket at 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: primary sche I mean, imagine not being invited and seeing 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: this all over social media. Imagine having the birthday the 61 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: next weekend and you're down McDonald's or something. 62 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: It would have been especially hard for kids that weren't 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: invited because Pixie does have one hundred and twenty one 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: thousand followers on Instagram and this was a very instagrammabile party. 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: I have quickly discovered from this party that your typical 66 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: photo booths are no longer in fashion. It's all about 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: the three sixty degree photo booths, which we did see 68 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: at the Stacks event, so she had one of those. 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: She also had a massive round dance floor setup that 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: looked like a disco ball with her name on it. 71 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: There was also, of course, balloon installations, neon signs everywhere, 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of interactive elements and the 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: one that I liked the best was a personal hairdresser. 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: So they had these pop up hairdressers there who. 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Were doing hair tinsel extensions and I've only heard about 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: them on TikTok, so basically it's just these little clips 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: of tinsel. 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I would have loved this as a child. It looked 79 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: so cool. I mean I probably would love to go 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: as an adult. Yeah, to be honest, well, they had. 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: A DJ, they're a professional photographer. They also had signs 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: saying selfie everywhere, so they were encouraging all the kids 83 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: to take selfies. All the kids were on their phones 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: obviously filming what was happening in this event, and of 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: course at the end they had fireworks and show bags. 86 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I could imagine these lolli 87 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: bags would have been epic, but they wouldn't be filled 88 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: with Lolly's. I'm sure they're filled with lots of sponsored products. 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Well I think they were actually filled with some of 90 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Pixie's products because this event was actually not just for 91 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: her eleventh birthday party. It was to celebrate the fact 92 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: that her business has done so well. So she started 93 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: her business, which is called Pixie's Picks during COVID and 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: since then, as Roxy said, it has gone gangbusters. In 95 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the first month she earned two hundred thousand dollars and 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: she is predicted to be worth fifteen million dollars. And 97 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: you will remember earlier in the year, Roxy joked that 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: by the age of fifteen, Pixie should be able to retire. 99 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: So is Pixie's Picks. Is that all those fidget things? 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Because I know she started off a hair business like 101 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: a bow company very early on. Yeah, well, it started 102 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 2: as those fidgets during COVID, but now it has turned 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: into a full grown off line toy shops, so they've 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: really branched out with a lot of different accessories. But 105 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: it's the same with Roxy because I noticed she's been 106 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: spooking candles lately. So I think they've realized that, you know, 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: PR does make money, but they're finding that they're using 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: their PR skills to actually promote other products and maybe 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: that's potentially making. 110 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Them even more revenue passive income. Yeah, I did love 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: that Roxy spoke to the media about Pixie's party, so 112 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: she said the event was a wonderful night celebrating with 113 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Pixie's friends and family. The guests were overheard saying, oh 114 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: my god, that was the best party ever. She also 115 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: said it was the first celebration Pixie could have with 116 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: her friend's post pandemic restrictions. Look, it looked like an 117 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: epic party, but I can't get over the fact that 118 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: it cost forty thousand dollars for an eleven year old's 119 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: birthday pipe. Well, that's what they're predicting or estimating that 120 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: it costs. Look, the party looked epic, but I cannot 121 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: believe it costs forty thousand dollars. Well, that's the thing. 122 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: Pixie has had a lot of lavish parties in the past. 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: For her ninth birthday, she had this beauty themed party 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: and all the kids got mad cures and pedicures at 125 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: a very high end spa. And for her ninth birthday, 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: Roxy also generated headlines when she gave Pixie and her 127 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: son Hunter a two hundred and seventy thousand dollars Mercedes 128 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Benz for them to get around in. However, this year 129 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: was a little bit different because it was actually Pixie 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: who picked up the bill for the party, So she 131 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: threw the entire party for herself off the back of 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: the success of her business venture, as we mentioned, Pixie Picks. 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: So it's pretty crazy that she's so successful she's been 134 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: able to pay for her own birthday party. 135 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: She spent a pick whatever she wanted. Do you know what. 136 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: It might sound really obscene to us who was used 137 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: to growing up and having the normal at home party, 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 1: but when you're in this sort of rich world, forty 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for kids party is probably nothing. Because one 140 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of our clients, one of her friends, paid thirty thousand 141 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: for a dog's birthday. The thing is, I was quite 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: surprised that they said she picked up the bill for it. 143 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Because while she is apparently touted as this mastermind behind 144 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: the business, she's actually only a and most people think 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: that Roxy Jasanko was the one that's coming up with 146 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: all these ideas. So it surprises me that they allow 147 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: her to be able to spend her money the way 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: she wants to. Normally people would set it up as 149 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a trust fund and at eighteen years 150 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: old they could then access the money. I reckon there's 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: a chance this could have been some sort of tax deduction, 152 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: because if it was held as part of a celebration 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: for Pixie's brand doing so well, that's probably the best 154 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: way to play the books. Roxy has previously. 155 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: Come out saying that she does want to teach Pixie 156 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: the importance of investing and not squandering her money. Obviously, 157 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: some people may see this as a squandering money, but 158 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: maybe it's a lesson of if there's things that you 159 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: want in life, you have to pay for it yourself. 160 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: We don't just get given it. 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: The thing is, if it was a branding exercise, then 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of like an investment into the company, because 163 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: it's all about marketing. Everyone's talking about this lavish birthday party. 164 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Everyone is then talking about Pixie's company and her products, 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: so it kind of makes sense. 166 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: I think that's such a good point, Kate, because back 167 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 2: in February, it was reported that Pixie was in talks 168 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: about how her own reality show, So I think that 169 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Roxy is trying really hard to build a particular brand 170 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: for Pixie. So you know the fact that this party 171 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: is getting a lot of engagement online, it's getting talked about. 172 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: Roxy appeared on the Today Show defending the party recently, 173 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: so obviously she's a pr where she knew that this 174 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: party was going to attract a lot of attention. If 175 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: they wanted to just hold a lavish party and not 176 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: have a reaction, they would have kept it offline. 177 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that this is Pixie's eleventh birthday 178 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: party because it seemed pretty mature, and I feel like 179 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be super fascinating to see this transitional 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: period for Pixie because she is only eleven. What's her 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: thirteenth going to be like her sweet sixteenth? I feel 182 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: like it kind of reminds me of when the Jenna's 183 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: started growing up a little bit and they suddenly went 184 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: from child stars to legitimate celebrities. And I feel like 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: if Pixie's going to have her own reality TV show. 186 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: She will be catapulted into a lot of fame. Well 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: that's a thing. Cake by her sweet sixteenth she might 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: be retired by then, as as Roxy joked. Now. There 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: were mixed reactions online about this party. A lot of 190 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: people said that it was a gross display of wealth, 191 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: and they labeled the price tag as a joke, and 192 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: many people pointed out that so many Australians are struggling 193 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: due to inflation at the moment, struggling to pay their 194 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: rent and their grocery bills, and the fact that someone 195 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: spent forty thousand dollars on a kid's party is disgusting. 196 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: Others did argue that it is Roxy and Pixie's money, 197 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: so they can do whatever they wish with it. 198 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: So one user wrote, who honestly cares? If I could 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: do the same for my kids, I would. Well. 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Roxy did come out and defend the decision, and she 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: said that it wasn't just a celebration for Pixie's eleventh 202 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: birthday there, it was also a celebration for how successful 203 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: Pixie's business has become since COVID and Roxy also explained 204 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: that in twenty sixteen, she was diagnosed with breast cancer 205 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: and since that time, she's always wanted to celebrate those 206 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: moments and not be so low key, so I think 207 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: it's important to take that into consideration. 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Well. She also did point out that it's important for 209 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: her family to be charitable and also to realize how 210 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: lucky they are, so she said that they do do 211 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: a lot for children's hospitals, either donating money or toys, 212 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 2: but they don't like to scream it from the rooftops 213 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: because I think that's also something that's quite vulgar when 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: people only seem to donate to charity so they can 215 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: post it all online. 216 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: But does this mean that they should have kept the 217 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: party low key as well? That's what I was going 218 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to say. I think people were put off by all 219 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: of the images and videos being shared on social media 220 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: because maybe it made them feel shit about their own situation. 221 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: But I think for these kids, for them, part of 222 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: enjoying the party is sharing about the party because they. 223 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: Grow up and they want to be a lot older. 224 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: So I mean, clearly these kids are wanting to be 225 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: eighteen when they're eleven years old. They're acting like adults 226 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: at this party. They want to share about. 227 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: It, but they're only eleven, so I'm not saying it's right, 228 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying they all have mobile phones. I 229 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: think that it was fine to hold the party, but 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: perhaps if they don't want to have all the hype 231 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and the speculation about how much it cost and was 232 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: it appropriate, that they shouldn't have shared so much about 233 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: it online because, as Roxy said, she wants to celebrate 234 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: those sorts of moments. But then why does it have 235 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: to be shared like a private moment like that shared 236 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: with everyone. I think that's when people get their noses 237 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: out of joint. A lot of people thought maybe they 238 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: did put it online because some of it was sponsored, 239 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: but she did confirm that nothing was sponsored. Pixie paid 240 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: for every single supply to be there. I'm just hanging 241 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: out to see what she does for a birthday next year. 242 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that people are so jealous of me, but 243 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: I can help it that I'm popular. 244 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: Now this is really sad news. The Daily Mail is 245 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: reporting that Abby Chatfield and Conrad b and Stevens have 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: broken up, six months after revealing they were in an 247 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: open relationship. Now, there's been a lot of speculation over 248 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the last few weeks about the status of their relationship 249 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: because Conrad's been missing from Abby's social media, so a 250 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of people thought it was odd when Conrad hadn't 251 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: shared any updates about their new dog, Wally. One of 252 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: those people was you, Sophie, you were shocked. Well, I 253 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: was looking forward to seeing him interact with Wally because 254 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: he was adorable with Marco. So it, did, you know, 255 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: seem a bit odd that he had shared anything about 256 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: him and Abby shot down these rumors on her podcast, 257 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: recently revealing that Conrad was overseas competing in a new 258 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: reality show called The Challenge. She also recently revealed in 259 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: a Stellar magazine interview that she only sees Conrad two 260 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: days a week, but said it suited them because they're 261 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: good at communicating. And a lot of people thought this 262 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: was a bit odd at the time too, But don't 263 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: they live into state and doing long distance? No, he's 264 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: moved here. He's moved in. Oh okay, I didn't know that, 265 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: but I think that's because Abby has such a busy 266 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: schedule at the moment. So on Monday, The Daily Mail 267 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: claimed that Abby had broken up with Conrad before he 268 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: flew overseas to film The Challenge, and that Conrad has 269 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: since hooked up with former Bachelor contestant Megan Marx. The 270 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: thing is everyone's going on about, oh, Conrad has cheated 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: on Abby or moved on quickly. But Abby and Conrad 272 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: revealed that they are in an open relationship. So even 273 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: if Conrad and Abby were still together, I don't know 274 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: what people are getting their nickers in or not about. Well. 275 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: I think one of their rules was they can't sleep 276 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: with the in person more than once. How do we 277 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: know how many times? Well, the source who's speaking to 278 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail has said that Conrad has been hooking 279 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: up non stop with Megan Mark So that's the issue. God, 280 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: this is excellent promo for the challenge because I saw 281 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: the challenge getting banded around. I saw Britt Hockley's going 282 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: to be on it and a few other people, and 283 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, Eh, well, now I really 284 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: want to watch it. 285 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Do we think that this is a big publicity stunt 286 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: because it's getting so many people, as you say, interested 287 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: in the show. And also Abby is usually quite quick 288 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: to jump on her stories and explain stuff, but at 289 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: the time of recording, she has responded to the reports 290 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: on her Instagram story with you know, the typical black 291 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: tile and writing that said, Hey, I've seen the articles 292 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: about Conrad. He's out of the country, so I won't 293 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: be commenting on anything until he's home. Can everon not 294 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: be so dramatic please and relax ha ha ha. Both 295 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: of us are totally okay, And can the Paprizzi get 296 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: their daily pick of me picking up dog poot then 297 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: let me get my coffee in peace. 298 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Also, what did you guys think about this response? Well, 299 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: I think maybe because Abby's on the Mask Singer that's 300 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: a Channel ten show. The Challenge is a Channel ten show, 301 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: so maybe her contract with ten is stopping her from 302 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: actually commenting on it. There would be contractual obligations that 303 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: they can't talk about the show. She has been quite 304 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: on the downlaw about Conrad even being on it. I 305 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: think she finally confirmed on her podcast that he was 306 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: on it. This is what makes me think it's a 307 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: publicity's done even more the fact that they're both on 308 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: a Channel ten show. They're both probably trying to pump 309 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: up this show. There's no way it is. But Abby 310 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: would normally come on her stories and actually talk to 311 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: her audience and say this is bullshit or Alternatively, this 312 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: is what happened. We saw her do it when all 313 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: the shit went hit the fan with Brook Blurton and 314 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: her and the whole Conrad thing. 315 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: Well, back to the whole open relationship thing. It is 316 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: quite interesting because in June, Abby revealed on her podcast 317 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: that she had finally slept with someone else at the Logis, 318 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: but she wouldn't say who, and she said that she's 319 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: never really been phased by a partner. Being intimate with 320 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: another person in fact, is one of her kinks. So 321 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: I do wonder if it is just the fact that 322 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: she's happy for him to hook up with other girls 323 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: on the show. Well, the thing is, in that initial 324 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: podcast interview where they spoke about the open relationship, Abby 325 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: and Conrad both revealed that Conrad was the only one 326 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: who had slept with somebody. I think he's slept with 327 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: two people and Abby still hadn't. So it was only 328 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: months later, as you said in June, when she said 329 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: after the Logis she'd actually slept with somebody. And Conrad 330 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: has never been in an open relationship before, So I 331 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: wonder if that triggered anything, because it's okay when you're 332 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: the one that's off sleeping with other people. 333 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: But to actually see Abby, you know, go out and 334 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: sleep with somebody else that have fainted him, well, it 335 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: would have made it all a bit more real, would Yeah? 336 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: To me, it just looks like he's gone on a 337 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: reality TV show. They both can't say much about it all. 338 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: They're trying to pump up publicity for it, and she 339 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: can't really confirm or deny it because they're under contractual agreements. 340 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: It was quite interesting because Brooke Blurton is also on 341 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: this show, and they're really yeah, and they're saying, well, 342 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: these so called reports are saying that it was awkward 343 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: with Conrad being all over Meghan Marks. 344 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: It was almost like he was trying to make Brook jealous. 345 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, isn't that a tangled web? The thing is 346 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: this show, The Challenge. I've never seen it before, but 347 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: our little cousin is obsessed with it. And it's basically 348 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: a mix between Big Brother and sas Survivor. So they 349 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: basically have all these challenges that they do and then 350 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: they live in a house together. So in all the 351 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: other series overseas people hook up with each other, and 352 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: there were also reports saying that other contestants are hooking 353 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: up and Kate. As you said, Brittany Hockley's going to 354 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: be on it. Cyrel from Maths is going to be 355 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: on it. There's also Keicky Morris from The Bachelor, Meghan Marks. 356 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Of course, Jessica Power was supposed to be in this series. 357 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: She had her bags packed, her ticket ready to go, 358 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: and at the last minute her management said, no, you've 359 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: been dropped from the show. And I wonder if that's 360 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: because they chose to put cyrel In over her after 361 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: that incident with Sky Wheatley. Remember there was a big blower. 362 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: Surely not Perhaps it was like she was being overexposed. 363 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: She was on Big Brother recently. Oh that's true. Why 364 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: would Jessica. 365 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: Power even need to be on these types of shows. 366 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: She's raking in so much money on only she thing 367 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: to get more followers in. 368 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this year, you can win two hundred thousand dollars 369 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: if you win the Australian Challenge and you also then 370 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: represent Australia in a global challenge. So I suppose that 371 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: would mean international exposure. And you've seen what international exposure 372 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: does for some of these people in terms of was 373 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: that guy that was on that too hot to handle? Yeah, 374 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: he's huge now, So I suppose someone like Jessica Powe 375 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: would love even more exposure so big we can't even 376 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: remember his name. So the challenge is rumored to air 377 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: in October or November in place of The Bachelorette. Well, 378 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: thank goodness. I'm so sick of the shitty Bachelor and 379 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Bachelorettes they've had on recently. I think this is going 380 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: to be a big improvement. I've definitely been tuning in, 381 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: at least for the first episode. 382 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: I also think we need a break from too many 383 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: reality star contestants, you know what I mean. They're just 384 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: spitting out all these new people from shows. Let's see 385 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: the old ones do shit, Let's see them all hook up. 386 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 387 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: So tonight for dinner, I wore this super cute denim 388 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: crop and it's like a corset, so it's got these 389 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: straps at the back. 390 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has been holidaying in the US with her 391 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: husband for the last couple of weeks, enjoying stays in 392 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: La Palm Springs and New York. However, despite the epic trip, 393 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: it's her professionally style wardrobe that's been getting all the attention. 394 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I have been loving being a fly on the wall 395 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: on Olivia's trips and seeing the outfit she wears every day, 396 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: and there have been some amazing looks, so for those 397 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: who haven't seen them. She wore this Carrie Bradshaw inspired 398 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: long pink two two skirt with a white crop top, 399 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: which was quite iconic. While she was visiting New York. 400 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: She also wore this amazing age black ruffle dress and 401 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: another epic floral print two piece. She then shared this 402 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: photo of eleven pairs of shoes lined up. Now, all 403 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: I could think about this whole trip was how the 404 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: hell has she been traveling with all of these clothes? 405 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: And it seems like the same question has been on 406 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: her follower's mind. So Olivia did this Q and A 407 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: on her way home, and questions about her wardrobe kept 408 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: popping up all the time. So someone asked her how 409 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: she managed to fit everything inside her suitcase, and she 410 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: explained that she'd brought two suitcases and had these vacuum 411 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: packed bags. And it always reminded me of all those 412 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: ninety ads used to watch those tele commercials when people 413 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: would be like sucking all their clothes into this vacuum 414 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: bag and putting them under her bed, And I was 415 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: thinking how ingenious is this? Because she managed to fit 416 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: so many bulky items into her suitcase. It's actually crazy 417 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: how many clothes you can fit in there. I saw 418 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: someone cleaning up their old childhood room and they did 419 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: they put soft toys in woy oh. She broke my 420 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: heart to see them all sucked up into nothing. People 421 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: were asking her, firstly, how did you do it when 422 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you didn't have a vacuum, So she said she managed 423 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: to actually push the air out of the bags manually, 424 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: and then she brought a steamer with her, so that's 425 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: why they were looking in such pristine condition. I always 426 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: wonder how good of a holiday people have had when 427 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: they do share all of those photos of them wearing 428 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: beautiful clothes, because I know when I went to Europe, 429 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: the last thing I wanted to do was get in 430 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: fancy clothes when you're trekking all around on walking tours. 431 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I suppose because she did work 432 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: with her professional stylists styled by Bloom, which is Paul Forsaci, 433 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: I suppose that that all the mental labor of picking 434 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: out the outfits had been done previously, so she probably 435 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: had Okay, I'm wearing this, this and this in New 436 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: York and I'm wearing this in Palm Springs, and all 437 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: she had to I mean, I suppose she had to 438 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: get it out. 439 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Amy's saying that they'd be uncomfortable to be 440 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: getting around in a two piece long dress when you're 441 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: walking all day. That's what I thought when I saw 442 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: I thought, wow, she looks stunning, because you do always 443 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: see those girls on Instagram looking incredible on their trips, 444 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: and you wonder are they getting around in those outfits 445 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: all day or are they throwing. 446 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Them on for an hour? And you also think how 447 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: much of the day is just sitting around taking photos 448 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: and how much it's actually enjoying the holiday at that. 449 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: But we've got to remember her job is an influencer, 450 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: and a part of being on a holiday like that 451 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: is taking photos. I think the difficulty it would be 452 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: pairing outfits, so at least she had all of these 453 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: amazing outfits to take photos on. I mean, it's harder 454 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: to get nice photos if you're just in a white 455 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: T shirt and denim shorts the whole trip. I was 456 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: wondering what bags she brought around with her. 457 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: You know how usually when you're walking around the city, 458 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: of a country you're visiting. You have to bring you 459 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: a drink bottle, make sure you've got a map, all 460 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: these different things. 461 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Camera. The thing is, this trip wasn't like that they 462 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: were wanting to see every single tourist destination they possibly could. 463 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: They stayed in three spots and they spent about a 464 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: week in each of those spots, so I don't think 465 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: it was some big touristic thing. I think they were 466 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: more enjoying going to a restaurant so they didn't have 467 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: to bring big bags around. Because I did see Olivia 468 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: had a jackamous purse. 469 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: Those aren't really the most practical bags, but they look 470 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: great in photos. Now. Comments did start to turn a 471 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: little bit judgmental, with Olivia sharing several questions about the 472 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: reasoning behind being professionally styled for a holiday. So Olivia wrote, 473 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: I often get questions like this. I know it's curiosity, 474 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: but it also seems judgmental. I get styled by Paul 475 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: because it's fun and I love it. I have always 476 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: loved fashion and getting dressed up, So I'm lucky to 477 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: have a wonderful friend who is able to pull amazing 478 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: pieces together for me. We have so much fun figuring 479 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: out all the looks together. It also means a lot 480 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 2: of the time I get to wear samples from brands 481 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: and I enjoy doing it. 482 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Now we have spoken about Paul Versacei before. He is 483 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the fashion stylist behind the business Styled by Bloom and 484 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: he's actually a personal stylist at Chadston Shopping Center. And 485 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: he's worked with a bunch of influencers, so he actually 486 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: went to Paris with Shanie Grimman to style her. He's 487 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: also styled Francesca hung and a bunch of other influencers, 488 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: and his looks are iconic. I can see why so 489 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: many influencers are working with him because I feel like 490 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: he takes their trip photos to the next level. As 491 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: an everyday person, I would love to have someone picking 492 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: out clothes for me. 493 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: But do you sometimes even when you pick out your 494 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: own clothes for the next day in the morning, you've 495 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: got something important, you pick it out, and then you 496 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: just wake up and. 497 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: You don't feel like wearing it. You're like, I can't 498 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: be this person. 499 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: I wonder if Olivia felt like that on the trip 500 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: because the outfits were incredible, but some of them were 501 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: very bright. You know, when you have to be in 502 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: the mood to wear a bright color. 503 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, perhaps she just took photos in them and then 504 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: got into her comfy jeans and sneakers. She did say 505 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: that she had a trusty pair of Nikes on the trip, 506 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: and even though she had high heels. I think she'd 507 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: go between the thing. 508 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: That's I think I need to put a bit of 509 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: color into my outfits because Brandon's always paying me out 510 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: saying all I wear is white shirts, that I just 511 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: have the largest collection of white shirts. 512 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: Wait, well, isn't that your basics wardrobe? Well it is. 513 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: It is my basic water and add some color to it. 514 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: I learned you can. You just gotta have your capsule 515 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: pieces and then add a bit of fun. I feel 516 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: like we're turning into a fashion show. Well I think 517 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: we'll fashion help we need it. 518 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: So this is mouth tip, and yes, I take my 519 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: mouth shirt every single day before I got about it. 520 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: Sleeping properly is really important to antie eaching and looking 521 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 3: and feeling your best. So we're gonna make a little 522 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 3: sious cold sleeping BEAUTI Family Local, thirty one year old. 523 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: This is everything the doctors have worn. 524 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: That mouth taping is one of the most dangerous trends 525 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: they've seen on TikTok Okay, what exactly. 526 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Is this trend? Well, basically, it's when you tape your 527 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: mouth shut with a piece of tape before you go 528 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: to bed, and it forces yourself to breathe through your 529 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: nose rather than your mouth. And it's become popular because 530 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: all these wellness influences are promoting it as this cheap 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: life hack to improve your sleep. So the hashtag mouth 532 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: taping has gone viral on TikTok It's had twenty four 533 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: point seven million views on the app. That is insanity. 534 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Are these same wellness influences telling people to just tape 535 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: their mouth shut for their diet as well, just to 536 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: stop eating. Probably The dangerous thing is though there is 537 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: actually special tape to use, but they're because of this 538 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: trend's gone viral. People of course aren't going to be 539 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: shelling out money for the special tape, so they've been 540 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: using gaffa tape. 541 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: Imagine, I mean, I assume this is something that a 542 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: lot of women are doing. Can you imagine their partners 543 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: just looking over at them to sleep and they've. 544 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: Just got their mouths taped Like I have heard, I 545 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: have seen the tiktoks going around where these women are, like, 546 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel so sorry for my husband. I catfish him 547 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: every night. And they put like the tape on their mouth, 548 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: and then they put the eye things over their eyes, 549 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: and they've got like a cap on their head to 550 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: protect their hair. How the hell would you fall asleep 551 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: with your mouth taped? I feel like I'd suffocate, I know. 552 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: And also I mean why, I was just thinking why 553 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: are people doing it? Because I had to look into it, 554 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: and apparently mouth breathing can dry out the mouth and 555 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: this can lead to things like bad breath and gum inflammation. However, 556 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: are you really going to go to that length? Just 557 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: brush your bloody teeth after you wake up? 558 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 2: I feel like you'd snore more as well with your 559 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: mouth tape shut. No, apparently it stops you from snow really, yeah, 560 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: so it is meant to stop you from snoring. It's 561 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: also meant to stop dust and allergens getting into your 562 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: body and also apparently boost your oxygen. 563 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Are you meant to swallow like eight spiders in your lifetime? 564 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's stopping that too. Well, that's the issue, 565 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: not so much the swallowing of the spiders, but a 566 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: lot of health people have come out and said this 567 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: is extremely dangerous because what if you're asleep and you 568 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: vomit in your sleep, You're gonna choke and suffocate. And 569 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: what if stop like, what if something restricts you're breathing 570 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: in your nose and then you just die. That's another 571 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: thing you can suffocate if you've got a blocked nose 572 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: while you're sleeping. There's also a lot of dangers around 573 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: people doing this when they have sleep apening it because 574 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people have sleep apnar and they don't 575 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: realize it. So if you're using this as a remedy 576 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: to stop snoring, but you're actually snoring because you have 577 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: sleep at near, you could literally kill yourself. I can't 578 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: imagine putting gaffer tape over your mouth would be very 579 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: nice in terms of imagine how maing just rip that 580 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: off every morning. Yeah, well, apparently people are getting issues 581 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: with you know, skin around their mouth as well with 582 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: the tape. It's also quite serious because a sleep expert 583 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: called James Wilson came out and said that you can 584 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: actually put yourself at serious risk of heart disease, COPD 585 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: and stroke. Particularly, as I said earlier, if you are 586 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: a sleep apnear sufferer. I just think it's wild that 587 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: so many people are blindly jumping on this trend. Do 588 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: you think it's because TikTok is now known for its 589 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: testimonials being very real? Because I saw this marketing video 590 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: about how TikTok is the new search engine and they 591 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: were saying how it's becoming. Well, it's really rivaling SEO 592 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: on Google. So, for instance, if you wanted to know 593 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: what the quality of skims were, instead of googling skims 594 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and getting all the SEO content which is from the brand, 595 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: you look it up on TikTok and you're getting actually 596 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: real people's opinions of the brand. What you think maybe genuine. 597 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: They probably planted a whole load of their own fake 598 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: reviews as well. Well. That's debatable, but generally I think 599 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: you are actually getting because it's based on views, so 600 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: people are actually viewing real people's content. So I feel 601 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: at the moment, TikTok is giving real people the power 602 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: to make suggestions and recommendations, but these people aren't actually 603 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: experienced on the topic or shouldn't actually be giving this 604 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: information out there. I also think because it's a quick fix, 605 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: people like Oh that's easy. I just have to put 606 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: tape on my mouth, and I'm a sleep better. I'm 607 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: not going to sleep happen near clanick him getting a machine. 608 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: I think I'll just put sticky tape on my mouth. 609 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: Like I feel like every year has a new energy, 610 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: and I feel like this year is really about like 611 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: the year of just realizing stuff and everyone around me 612 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: where I was just like realizing things twenty sixteen. 613 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: Let him go. 614 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: I do feel for Sophie Kesia and Maddie Garrett because 615 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: their engagement party was slightly overshadowed by an eleven year 616 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: old's birthday party, because I feel like they did invest 617 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: a lot of time in making sure that this was 618 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: quite an Instagram at all event, but yeah, it just 619 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: didn't have anything on Pixi's party. So they had someone 620 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: come in to transform their home into an Italian theme party, 621 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: and they had a couple of food vans in the garden, 622 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: a beautiful media wall, and they also had a professional 623 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: hair stylist and makeup artists coming in to get them 624 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: ready for the event. And probably the most interesting thing 625 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: from this party is that on the spot, Maddie just 626 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: decided chop half my hair off. What And the thing 627 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: that I found so peculiar is they'd already curled her 628 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: hair for the event. 629 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: What do you mean, so she just like cutting her hair? Well, 630 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: the hairdresser doing it, but it was really random. Was 631 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: this at the party or before? No, they were getting 632 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: ready before and the hairstyles had curled her hair and 633 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: then she just decided, Hey, I want it up to 634 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: my shoulders. So she's cutting on the fly with the 635 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: curled hair. That's like my nightmare, you know, when you're like, oh, yeah, 636 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: do it and then you wake up the next morning. 637 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: Nor hair. I thought this was going to be a 638 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: thing sophy that everyone's just having hairdressers at their party 639 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: now after Pixies. 640 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get tense? No, they weren't actually pop 641 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: up hairstyles. This was just the two of them coming over. 642 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: This was their previous glam. I think, yeah, that actually 643 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty good engagement party to me. Though 644 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: it did look pretty epic. 645 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: They did have this massive grazing board, some beautiful food, 646 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: and I did like the fact that they both wore, 647 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: you know, beautiful gowns, but they had Nike sneakers on 648 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: that were matching. 649 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: It was quite cute. I did see that crazy table 650 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: and thought it was pretty epic. So for you getting 651 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: any ideas, because we did check out a venue for 652 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: your engagement party on the weekend, Yeah, we did. 653 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the food was horrendous, but the venue space itself 654 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: is quite nice. 655 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: So we're kind of not sure what to do. I 656 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: remind myself to eat McDonald's before it. No, Kate and 657 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I did get a hot route out of her as well. Yeah, 658 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: well you got to explain that. So it was sort 659 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: of it's not a pub, but it was sort of 660 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: pubstyle food, and the you know, with pubstyle food, there's 661 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: hardly anything vegetarian on the menu. 662 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: So it was called a warm roots salad. And the 663 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: waitress came up and she's like, I've got two warm 664 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: roots here, and we just lost it. And it's funny 665 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: because it was actually so inedible. It was a couple 666 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: of dud roots by the time we finished, disappointing warm 667 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: roots definitely. Well, I do think that probably is enough 668 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: goss for one day. 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