1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba and coming up on today's show, Sky Wheatley 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: and Lockie War's relationship, Limbo and Matt Sakowski spotted with 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: a new flame in Adelaide. But first, Mitch Orville and 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp are making a return to YouTube. Kay, I'm 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: very excited about this announcement. So last week Mitch posed 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the question to his Instagram followers whether he should make 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: a return to YouTube, and it's all coming off the 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: back of his sons wanting to be a part of 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: the channel. So he wrote, me and Chloe stopped doing 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: YouTube because we didn't think it was fair to make 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: that decision on behalf of our kids at an early 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: age should document their life online. Fast forward three to 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: four years, and the boys, especially Artie, love outdoor adventure 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: YouTube channels aka Brodie Moss. I feel like all the 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: kids love a bit of Brodie Moss. Yeah. I think 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton's son is a big fan too, so is 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Sarah's day Sun Fox. Yeah. So Mitch said that now 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: now he wants to do what mum and dad did 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: full circle moment. Should we fire up the family YouTube 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: channel again? But make it outdoor and adventure now. The 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: following morning, Mitch mocked up his face on Russell Koit's 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: body and wrote, the YouTube is coming back. Stay tuned. 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: He then shared a screenshot of insights from his original 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: story that showed ninety three point seven thousand people had 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: viewed it and over five thousand people had liked it, 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy five people had replied, and one 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three had shared it. So I think 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: that is a big Yes. We want to see Mitch 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: and Chloe back on YouTube, but I want to see 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: them back family logging. I don't necessarily want to see 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: them sharing their outdoor adventures. I want to hear about 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: their life. I bit. My husband loves Brodie Moss. He 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: is a massive fan. Occasionally I will watch the videos 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: with him. But I think that Mitch and Chloe's audience 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: is built on a lot of young women who prefer 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: to hear about their life and perhaps their family life, 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to seeing them go on these outdoorsy adventures. 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: When you consider that Mitch and Chloe shut down the 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: YouTube channel because they didn't think it was fair to 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: make that decision on their son's behalf. But now when 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: they're four and five, they're like, oh, yeah, they approve. 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: It. 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Sort of is a little bit murky, because really, how 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: much weight can you put on the consent of a 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: four and five year old saying that they want to 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: be on YouTube? They don't really understand what that means. 49 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: I think because this is going to be a totally 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: different genre of content, they perhaps feel more comfortable because 51 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: it's not going to be specifically about the children's lives 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: and the tantrums that they're having and go too much 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: into their personal details. Yes, there are still issues around 54 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: their children's faces being splashed online and privacy and that 55 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing, but maybe they're going to be very 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: careful with what they share. It'll be interesting to see 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: what they end up sharing on YouTube. Over the weekend, 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: it seemed like they may have been filming, because Mitch 59 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: shared that he and his sons were out fishing, So 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: maybe that's the first adventure that we're going to see. 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: It's interesting to consider how long Mitch and Chloe have 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: actually been offline, because the last video Chloe shared on 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: her individual channel was back in November twenty nineteen, so 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: that was, of course before the pandemic. She did feature though, 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: on the couple's joint YouTube channel called Chloe and Mitch, 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: So they started that channel back in twenty seventeen, and 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: they stopped posting on YouTube in October twenty twenty one. 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I remember there was always this rumor that Chloe sang 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: their YouTube's theme song. Yeah, everyone just for some reason 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: they envisioned her in their head when they heard it. 71 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean at that point when they had the couple's channel, 73 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Mitch had pretty much taken over and you could tell 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: that Chloe was not interested in being involved. It was 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: amid a lot of breakup rumors as well, and the 76 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: last video Mitch posted was actually called what I Do 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: in a Day with Artie. I actually think that this 78 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: is a stroke of genius. It's clear that Mitch is 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: going for a different type of audience. In this case, 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: it will likely be young dads and their kids watching it, 81 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and I think that it's going to lead to a 82 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: lot less scrutiny. 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 84 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean if it was Chloe's eep starting a mummy 85 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: vlogging channel, it would be very different. Yeah, Yeah, this 86 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: is he. 87 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: This is where I'm at in life. 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Matzakowski has been spotted with a potential new flame in Adelaide, 89 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: just months after announcing his divorce to Tammy hanbro Kay, 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: this one is close to home for us? Can you 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: tell us more? 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 93 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Well, for those listeners who aren't aware, we live in Adelaide. 94 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: So when these photos emerged online via Influencer Updates, aus like, 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: hang on, I recognized that spot and I was like, 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: imagine if we had run into them. Well, originally Influencer 97 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Updates was posting that it was in fact in Melbourne, 98 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: which made sense because that is where Matt is from. 99 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, this new woman is an Adelaide girl. We 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: love an Adelaide girl. Yeah. So her name is Emily Lawson. 101 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: She isn't a public figure herself, but she has around 102 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: nine thousand followers on Instagram and six thousand on TikTok 103 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: and it was Emily who hard launched the relationship on 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: her Instagram story. So she posted a mirror selfie of 105 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: her and Matt in front of what looked like a 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: hotel lift. She also documented their night out together, which 107 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: included dinner at Pastel Winebar on O'Connell Street. It looked 108 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: like a very romantic night, which finished up with watching 109 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: fireworks over the Adelaide CBD. Matt Sakowski and up sharing 110 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: vision from the fireworks later on so confirm that he 111 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: was there with Emily watching it. It can't help but 112 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: feel proud that Adelaide has been pulled into this Tammy 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Hembro Matzakowski story and they made it look like a 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: cool place to go out. Well, it is a cool 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: place to be well. Matt Szakowski also looked incredibly tall 116 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: in this photo with Emily. I don't know if Emily 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: is short, but he looked massive and I have to 118 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: say very good looking as well. 119 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: Well. 120 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: He is six foot five, so I think he's going 121 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: to make most women look short now. As we mentioned 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: at the start, it didn't take long for one of 123 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Emily's followers to give Influencer Updates Au the tip off. 124 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: So Amber broke the news on her account on Sunday morning, 125 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: and a few of Emily's friends were very excited by 126 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: her feature on the page and tagged her saying that's 127 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: our girl. It seems to me like Emily wanted this 128 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: information out there. I wonder if Matt didn't want the 129 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: news out there though, because he's been getting quite a 130 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: good rap lately. By I don't want to say playing 131 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: the role, because I'm not saying he's putting it on, 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: but by assuming the role of the guy who seems 133 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: bummed out by the divorce. You know, we heard that 134 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro moved on very quickly with Bailey Smith, and 135 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: you could tell on Matt's podcast that he seemed quite 136 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: sad and down in the dumps about it. But now 137 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: it's like, well he's moved on pretty fast too. Yeah. 138 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: So I think if Tammy hadn't have gone public with 139 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Bailey Smith, this would be playing out very differently. Yeah, 140 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: he'd be a bit of villain. Yeah. Now, in terms 141 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: of what we know about Emily, she is twenty four, 142 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: which funnily enough is the same age as Bailey Smith, 143 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: so they've both moved on with younger counterparts, younger blondes. 144 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I have to say she has a striking resemblance to 145 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro. She has the same bleach blonde hair and 146 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: let's say similar body shame. Yeah, they both got great bodies. 147 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: I had a thorough look of Instagram page for research purposes, 148 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: of course, and we had a couple of mutual friends 149 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: in there, but no one that I'm close enough with 150 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: to be like, oh hey, what's the scoop. Well, for 151 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: those who don't know, people say that Adelaide is like 152 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a big country town where everyone knows one another. That 153 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: being said, there is a twelve year age difference between 154 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: us and Emily, so I'm not surprised that we don't 155 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: have heaps of friends in common from having a deeper look. Though, 156 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: she did work on a Walt Disney cruise ship, so 157 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: she's been living her best life. Yeah, it seems like 158 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: she's also gone through her own difficult breakup this time 159 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: last year. So in September she posted tips of things 160 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: that helped her deal after dating a narcissist. And I 161 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: found that very interesting because Matt has spoken on his 162 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: podcast before about navigating narcissistic relationships. At the time, we 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: suggested that it seemed like it was a bit of 164 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: a dig at his relationship with Tammy, So I wonder 165 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: if that's been a bit of a topic of conversation. Again, 166 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: not saying that Tammy is a narcissist. I think after 167 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: you go through a toxic relationship and a breakup. A 168 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: lot of people label their exes as narcissist. I mean, 169 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: people don't seem to understand that you actually have to 170 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: be diagnosed as a narcissist by a psychiatrist. Like, it's 171 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: not as common as you think, and it's different to 172 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: have narcissistic tendencies than actually being a full blown narcissist. 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Just to get more of an overview of Emily's personality 174 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: luckily for us, she recently got involved in the Unfortunately 175 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: I Love trend on TikTok, so she shared that unfortunately 176 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: she loves being wine drunk, blocking people, ignoring men, over sharing, 177 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: that's great, taking a million photos, only having hot friends, 178 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: and being hot. I don't feel about the last two. 179 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: There's a bit of be nice. A stick qual is 180 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: that it kind of reminded me of Regina George on 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Me and Girls. I mean, I'm sure it's a bit 182 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: of a joke. I am assuming that Matt and Emily 183 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: must have met on Raya, because how else are they 184 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: crossing paths? Yeah, it seems like a pretty common thing 185 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: on that app. So for those not familiar with Raya, 186 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: it is sort of coined as the dating app for celebrities, 187 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: but let's face it, it's a lot of Z grade celebrities. 188 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: And then people say celebrities, I think it's just a 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: lot of people who either have a fake following or 190 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: they just get the code from their friends. Yeah, so 191 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that Emily because she has around nine thousand 192 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: followers on Instagram, maybe she's got on through that. I 193 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, Well, Tammy is yet to comment on 194 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: her husband moving on. I don't really think that she 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: is in a position to do so, considering she was 196 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: very fast to move on with Bailey Smith herself. Yeah, 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: before this news broke, though, Tammy hinted on her tiktop 198 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: that she was dealing with some stressful things at the moment, 199 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: so she filmed to get Ready video with me before 200 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: attending White Fox Boutique's twelfth birthday dinner. Let's take a 201 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: listen to some of what she said. 202 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 5: I have so much coming up, but I have so 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 5: much to be grateful for. I do have, like some 204 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: other stressful things that I'm dealing with, dealing with that, 205 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 5: right forgetting how to speak English. I had like four 206 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: hours sleep last night. 207 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: Guys. 208 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: I have so much to be grateful for. And so 209 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 5: much to be happy about and excited about. And then 210 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,479 Speaker 5: on the other hand, I have like all these stresses. 211 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Tammy went on to reveal that she did three podcast 212 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: interviews last week and she was nervous about what she said. 213 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 214 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: Some of them. I'm like, literally, what did I say? 215 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: Like at the end of the day, I don't want 216 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: to like upset anyone, like I just want I. 217 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 3: Just want to be. 218 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: I don't want like drama. I don't want to hurt 219 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: anyone's feeling someone upset anyone. But yeah, I don't know 220 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: what I said. Guys, I got deep and I got personal. 221 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 5: I am a little nervous though, because I don't usually 222 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 5: say yes to things like that, Like I don't know, 223 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 5: but I actually enjoyed it, and you know what, it'll 224 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: be fine. 225 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I really hope she has opened up more so than 226 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: she did on No Filter, which is MEA. Friedman's podcast 227 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: poured me at She's a fantastic interviewer, but she was 228 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: absolutely pulling at teeth to get any sort of answers 229 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: from her. But maybe now she's going through this breakup, 230 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: It's just like word vulnerable diarrhea. I've got to say, 231 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: I was pretty cut when I was listening to this 232 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: because just a bit of inside information for pulling back 233 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: the curtain here. Yeah, we actually locked in an interview 234 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: with Tammy Hembro and her sisters that would have aired 235 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: this week, but last minute, you know, you can put 236 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: timelines together, it got cut and putting it out there. 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: That was an. 238 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Opportunity that came to us. We didn't go out seeking that. Initially, 239 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I was surprised that they would consider appearing on our podcast, 240 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: but then when I thought about it, well, we have 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: such an engaged audience who cares about Tammy and her life. 242 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been an amazing opportunity for 243 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: her and also for us because I would have loved 244 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: to sit down with her and been like, Okay, it's 245 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: time to set the records straight, like tell us what 246 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: you actually think about all of these things that we've 247 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: covered before. Unfortunately that fell through right at the end, 248 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: so it is disappointing. I'm interested to see what podcast 249 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: she has appeared on. One podcast that I know of 250 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: is jar Day Tunci and Locky Bricky's podcast called Mad 251 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: About You. She's a safe choice because obviously jar Day 252 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: being a fellow influencer. They're not really going to go 253 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: too hard on her, are they. She may tell jar 254 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Day a bit though, because I've listened to their podcast 255 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: before and jar Day and Lockie are really friendly. They 256 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: come across as really likable, and maybe it just, you know, 257 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: for Tammy, she might have felt like she was talking 258 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: to friends. Yeah, well that's true. They probably will get 259 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: the scoop with the softly softly approach. I'm wondering if 260 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: she'll also be on Life Uncut. Oh, one hundred percent. 261 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: I definitely think that she'll be on there. Do you 262 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: think maybe the other one I thought of was something 263 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: to talk about by Stellar Magazine, maybe all the sisters 264 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: were here. Yeah, we'll probably see a spread that would 265 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: be some good promo for their supplements company. Well, it's 266 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: clear that one of the podcast interviews involves her and 267 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: her sisters Emily and Amy, because they filmed themselves on 268 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Snapchat and also on TikTok, sitting at like a recording 269 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: studio on a couch and judging by a TikTok. Tammy shared, 270 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: I think that Emily and Amy probably went a bit 271 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: rogue about Matt during one of the interviews, because Tammy 272 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: has said how worried she is about what got said. Well, 273 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: they've got prior for it as well, and it seems 274 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: like after that interview, you know when you're in a 275 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: bit of a high for ragging on someone, because Tammy's 276 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: then let that spill across onto her TikTok. So she 277 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: filmed a video where she panned across to her sisters 278 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: and she wrote I may have let go, but my 279 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: sisters will hate you forever, with a trending sound that said, 280 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: sources confirm your vibe was weird and yes everyone found. 281 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Someone did comment under that I fear amy the most, 282 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: to which Emily responded me to with the covering eyes emoji. Well, 283 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: Matt's also been making reference to the divorce on his 284 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: own podcast, so he recently spoke with Anna McAvoy about 285 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: the Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban divorce announcement, and they 286 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: basically were pointing out that when a divorce announcement happens, 287 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: the blame is often unfairly put on the man. And 288 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: there was also a reference to the fact that Matthew 289 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: McConaughey's parents got divorced and remarried three times, and matt 290 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: said that definitely wouldn't be happening. In his case, it 291 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: was a bit of a change of pace to have 292 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: Matt and Anna McAvoy dissecting the headlines, like they've introduced 293 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: this new second episode of the Week, and I was 294 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: like wow, because they dissected Taylor Swift's album, and I'm like, 295 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: you clearly couldn't find two people that were less interested 296 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: in the release. I actually felt dumber listening to it, 297 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know that sounds terrible, but it was quite 298 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: clear that their producer had put together a few key 299 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: points and they sort of had to ramble through the 300 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: dot points, and it was clear that they knew nothing 301 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: about it. There was no research really done. I would 302 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: rather than just talk about their personal lives because I 303 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: do enjoy tuning in, but I don't really want to 304 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: hear their take on celebrity gossip, particularly if they're not 305 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: actually interested in it. 306 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 307 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: I think that it seems like an easy thing to do, 308 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: but it's actually not, particularly when you have podcasts like 309 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: Shameless that do such a good job of it. It's 310 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: like you can't compete in that space. People just want 311 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: to hear your advice on dating and your relationship, like 312 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: that's what your podcast is. I understand people can branch out, 313 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: but it's sort of a very competitive industry. And yeah, 314 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: it just because I listened to a lot of pop 315 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: culture podcasts. It just the comparison was quite glaring. I 316 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: have to admit I do tune in every week, and 317 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: while my motivation mostly is to get content for this 318 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: podcast and be across what's happening in the Tammy Hembro 319 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Matsakowski sphere, I do enjoy it. Like it said, easy listen. 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: And on Tuesday I had to laugh to myself because 321 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Matt revealed that he's been recycling plastic bottles and cans 322 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: from his office in a bid to save up for 323 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: a trip to Europe. And I thought that was very 324 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: brave of him to talk about because it made it 325 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: seem like he has a lot of financial stresses going on, 326 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: and it was in complete contrast to Tammy Hembro's life 327 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: where she's worth fifty million dollars. Let's take a listen 328 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: to what he said. 329 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: You know how now they do the ten cents for 330 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 4: cans and bottles. Yeah, this is he This is where 331 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: I'm at in life. This is where I'm at. 332 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: So for those unaware. Matt does a nine to five 333 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: job alongside his podcast and influencing career. So he is 334 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: a project manager for his dad's pool company. And he 335 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: told Anna macavoid that their office manager decided it was 336 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: cheaper to purchase slabs of bottled water rather than getting 337 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: a water fountain fitted in the office, and he decided 338 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: he would collect the bottles and cash them in to 339 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: make some extra money. Let's take a listen to more 340 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: of what he said. 341 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: So I go around with a bag and I like 342 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: shake it for everyone and they put their bottles in there, 343 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: and I say, thanks, guys, you're paying for a Europe trip. 344 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. So I have four big garbage bags 345 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: of like plastic bottles and cans that I collected from 346 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: the office. Right people in the office are getting annoyed. 347 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: They're like, you can't just leave him here blah bah us. 348 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: I was like, cry, so him into the place. Have 349 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: you been there before? 350 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Now I don't even know what this place is. 351 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Explain that. 352 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: So it's like a recycle plan. I had to google 353 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: it where it was. And you like and they pay you, Yeah, 354 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: they give you ten cents for each bottle. 355 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: You didn't need to collect a load of bottles if 356 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: you're going to Europe. 357 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: Now. 358 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Matt did leave very disappointed because he thought that four 359 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: bags of plastic bottles would get him around four hundred dollars, 360 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: but it ended up just being ninety, and he said 361 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: that it wasn't worth the effort. I was pretty shocked 362 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: when I heard Anna macav always say that she didn't 363 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: know you could cash in your bottles and cans for 364 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: ten cents. It turns out, though, that the container deposit 365 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: scheme has only been a place in Victoria since twenty 366 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: twenty three. Oh really, I didn't know that it wasn't 367 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: in place in Melbourne because as kids, I remember we 368 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: were swapping cans and bottles. That must have been in 369 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: place for a lot longer in South Australia. So in 370 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: South Australia we've had it in place since nineteen seventy seven, 371 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and the other states have also had it in place 372 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: for a fairly long time. It's just been Victoria who 373 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: haven't had it. That kind of gives a bit more 374 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: context to Matt's story, is perhaps why he's so excited 375 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: to collect the cans. Yeah, and it's more of a novelty. 376 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a letdown for him though, because 377 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: this time last year he was getting set to marry 378 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: a woman worth fifty plus million dollars and now he's 379 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: having to scrounge around for cans to fund this Europe trip. 380 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: To be fair to Matt, it is a noble thing 381 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: to do in the sense that it's good for the planet. 382 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: And who couldn't use a bit of extra cash. I mean, 383 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: we have a recycling bin at our house that we 384 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: put all our cans and bottles in. We take them 385 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: down to the depot. Look, he's becoming one of the people, 386 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: isn't he on other people? He's exchanging cans for money 387 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: and dating an Adelaide girl. 388 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: So there has been a lot going on with me 389 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: and lots of headlines that will address today too. 390 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has opened up about her much publicized breakup 391 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: from baby Daddy. Lucky war The former Bi Brother contestant, 392 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: has backtracked, describing the situation as relationship limbo and admitted 393 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: they plan to work things out. So if this has 394 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: come as a surprise to her followers, there's only a 395 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. She confirmed the split on her Instagram 396 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Live Yeah, and what a memorable Instagram live. It was 397 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: she was holidaying at an airbnb on the Sunshine Coast 398 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: with her two kids when she broke the news to 399 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: her followers. Now. In the live, she confirmed that the 400 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: couple had broken up, and even responded to a follower 401 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: who asked if Locke had cheated on her, saying, I 402 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: don't know maybe. She also confirmed in that live that 403 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: she and Locke would still be finishing off their extensive 404 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: renovations together, which they have been documenting for the past 405 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: six years now. Ski was acting quite erradically during that live, 406 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: so much so that some of her followers were convinced 407 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: that she was intoxicated, but she later confirmed in the 408 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: comment section that she was in fact sober whilst filming 409 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: that live. Well, I'm glad that she clarified what was 410 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: going on now. A few days on from this breakup announcement, 411 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Locke was spotted in the background of one of Sky's 412 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: friends Instagram stories now. In the photo, Sky and her 413 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: friend were choosing beers at her home, while Lockey was 414 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: in the background, also holding a beer. This led followers 415 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: to speculate that perhaps they were working on things now. 416 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Off the back of the spec Sky uploaded a podcast 417 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: called Let's Talk Past Breakups, and a lot of people 418 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: assume she would be talking about her situation with Lockie. 419 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: She briefly touched on the fact that they've gone through 420 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: a lot of breaks and that she had posed the 421 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: question recently to Lockie that could they go on a 422 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: break for six months and he said, well, we may 423 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: as well break up. But the majority of the episode 424 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: was actually about Sky's breakup with her boyfriend before Lockie 425 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: called Cam and also her co host Callum spoke a 426 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: lot about his breakups. Yeah. Well, I think that there 427 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: must have been a lot of listeners writing in saying, hey, 428 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: what's happening here? You've teased us that you're going to 429 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: talk about this breakup. What's going on? Because this week 430 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: she released an episode entitled Sky Addresses the Locky Breakup Rumors. 431 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Now I want to provide some visual context because during 432 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: this podcast recording, Sky was randomly wearing a pink wig 433 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: and she said it was because it's Halloween month and 434 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: it fits into the spooky theme. Now I want to 435 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: address that because she does mention the wig in a 436 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: grab that we are going to play later on. I 437 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: was thrown by what she was wearing because she's come 438 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: out and said all these, you know, newsworthy things about 439 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: her breakup, and she didn't look like herself. Well is 440 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: it because when people go through a breakup, they change 441 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: their hair. I'm trying to do something dramatic now, off 442 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: the bat, I want to point out that I thought 443 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: it was pretty ridiculous that they were calling these breakup rumors. 444 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: It's a bit cheeky because the only person who fired 445 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: up these rumors was Sky herself, because she obviously jumped 446 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: in alive and flat out said that they'd broken up. 447 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: So they're not rumors. You confirmed the breakup. Well, I 448 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: suppose she was addressing rumors that were already out there 449 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: because she hadn't posted with Locki for quite some time. 450 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: But she's confirmed the rumor. 451 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: Ye. 452 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: So anyway, she ended up telling her listeners that she 453 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: was going to address the rumor's head on, but from 454 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: there she lost me. It got very confusing because while 455 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: she did confirm that the breakup took place, she said 456 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: that she and Lockie are now just on a break 457 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: with the idea that they will work things out. Okay, 458 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: so let's have a listen to some of what she. 459 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: Said basically heard it here. First, there has been there 460 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: has been a breakup, but then like we've been co parenting, 461 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: and this is like the longest we've gone separated. Yes, 462 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: because normally we'll have like little breaks, you know, because 463 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: we've been there's been a lot on both our plates. 464 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: We're both stressed with work. We've got two young children, 465 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: trying to navigate two young boys, and a renovation, plus 466 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: our own businesses. Like, it's been very stressful, and I 467 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: think I think it's very hard to understand each other sometimes. 468 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll usually have little breaks so we can 469 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: just like you know, reset, and then we usually come 470 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: back with this. This has definitely been the longest co 471 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: parenting split slash break we've ever had. I think we 472 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: did get super close there to ending it and call 473 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: for real, for real like calling it quits, but maybe 474 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: I've raked out a little bit and I was like, 475 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: oh my god, I just don't know if I can 476 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: go through this right now. 477 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: So essentially, reading between the lines, it sounds like things 478 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: have been rocky for quite some time for the couple 479 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: and that they've been on a couple of breaks, but 480 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: maybe one of their recent arguments got so out of hand, 481 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: the Sky went public with it, and now she's having 482 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: to backtrack a bit. Well, she confirmed on the podcast 483 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: that she was the one who initiated the breakup and 484 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: said that she was the one who was pretty firm 485 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: and strong with keeping it that way. But since then 486 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: she's said she's had a full mental breakdown and freak 487 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: out over it. Yeah, because she said that the breakup 488 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: actually coincided with a falling out with a friend and 489 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: she didn't feel strong enough to go through both a 490 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: friendship bust up and also a breakup. So now she 491 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: and Locke have decided to try and work through it 492 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: and go to couples counseling. Well, it's not the first 493 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: time they've actually been to couples counseling. We have discussed 494 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: it on our podcast. I think it was like a 495 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: year or so ago. But basically, when Sky and Lockie 496 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: were trying to find a psychologist to help with their 497 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: son Forrest, the psychologist actually said, hearing you guys interact, 498 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: you guys need to go to a couple's count jumming 499 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: up some business with the psychologists there. Yeah, myself, Skuy 500 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: said she felt like that the counselor they spoke to 501 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: was always on Locky side, and then they found one 502 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: that was more neutral. But it seems like they've probably 503 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: not gone as much as they should have. I found 504 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: it quite difficult listening to that grab because it seems 505 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: like they're just trying to stay together for the sake 506 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: of the house and also their kids. But surely the 507 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: kids would be picking up on that negative tension, particularly 508 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: because she said that they're not really talking to each other. 509 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: I think they're putting a bit of a patch over 510 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: everything at the moment until the house has done. That's 511 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. I want to get back to 512 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: her mention of a friendship bust up, because there has 513 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: been a lot of speculation that this friendship breakdown is 514 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: between her and her business partner, Tory So. Tory is 515 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: a fellow influencer and they run Good People Apparel together now. Originally, 516 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: when the breakup news broke, Tory appeared to throw shade 517 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: at Lockie So she wrote, when you're a girl's girl, 518 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: So now I've got more beef with her ex than 519 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: she ever did. The post continued, saying he really thought 520 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: he could talk to her crazy but forgot her besties 521 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: from the West and I don't let shit slide. She 522 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: then hashtagged it break up humor Now. Sky replied to 523 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: the video, writing that's my girl. So I don't know 524 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: what has gone down since because they have now unfollowed 525 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: each other on socials, So I don't know what this 526 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: means for the future of their clothing brand. I mean, 527 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: it's really sad because they've been friends for a long time. 528 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Not good timing. Now back to the breakup. During the 529 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: podcast interview, Callum started talking about how the media has 530 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: really blown everything out of proportion and he couldn't believe 531 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: the reaction to the Instagram stories that Locke shared of 532 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: him burning boxes on the couple's property. Now, these stories 533 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: were shot from Locke's perspective at nighttime, so he was 534 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: at their property and in the vision, he was drinking 535 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: whilst walking through the empty house and he stopped at 536 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: the kitchen where there were a ton of boxes stacked up. 537 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: In the next Instagram story, he was then outside dramatically 538 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: setting fire to another lot of boxes. And at the 539 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: time it was quite confusing because there was no context 540 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: as to what was in the boxes, and he was 541 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: blaring a love song in the background. So many people 542 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: wondered whether the Sky's possessions were in those boxes, because 543 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: it came off the back of her essentially accusing him 544 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: of cheating on her in her Instagram live, whilst a 545 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of other people said, Oh, it looks like he's 546 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: just doing a bit of a routine burnoff. We burn 547 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: rubbish on our property from time to time. But let's 548 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: have a listen to what Callum said. 549 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: But like the media blows everything out of proportion. Oh 550 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: my god, there was a vigil of Lockie, like putting 551 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: some cardboard on fire, you'ls some paper on fire, and 552 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like the worlds ending and there's 553 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: like a full breakup and all this, and like they've 554 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: probably just got junks and they need to burn because 555 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: they got so much shit in their renovation. 556 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: We do we do now? I thought this was where 557 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: Sky was going to jump in and try to talk 558 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: the Instagram stories down, but instead she said. 559 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: This, No, he was not burning my clothes on the fields. 560 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: They were probably just your hair, probably just some weeks. 561 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: He was like, fuck this pink. I don't like that color. Nah, 562 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't he but like the timing of it wasn't right, 563 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: and I don't know if he knew that there was 564 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: a lot of media watching our profiles at the time. 565 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: But I'm like, wow, your timing was impeccable. There, My like, 566 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: that was good timing. 567 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: Now, we covered the story on our podcast and created 568 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: a subsequent reel off the back of what we said, 569 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: and in it we said we found it quite disturbing 570 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: because it was unclear what he was burning and it 571 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: seemed to be off the back of Sky igniting cheating rumors. Now, 572 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: the comment section blew up and people were not happy 573 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: with what we've said. People were sticking up for Locke, saying, Oh, 574 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. He's just clearly doing a burnoff on his 575 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: property like he normally does. It's interesting though, that Sky 576 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: also thought it didn't look that innocent, or that the 577 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: timing of it looked bad. Like I felt a bit 578 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: more vindicated. Yeah, Essentially, she was saying that it appeared 579 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: like Lockie was trying to send some sort of message. 580 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it really did. And the media at tension 581 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: around this breakup has rattled Sky, and she said that 582 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Gul going forward, if they inevitably do break up, they'll 583 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: most likely have to go to court, whether it's over 584 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: the kids or the property, and she really is wondering 585 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: whether she'll be able to stand the whole press attention 586 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: and also social media watching her every move. It really 587 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: does sound like they are just trying to be amicable 588 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: at the moment for obviously the sake of the kids, 589 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: but more so for the house and getting it finished, 590 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: because once it's finished, I assume that they can work 591 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: out whether they want to sell it or not. Surely 592 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: with Locke, yeah, but surely they can get people in 593 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: to finish the renovations. Often live separately. Well, it seems 594 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: like it's a bit of a financial decision because there 595 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: were reports recently that Lockie's shop fitting business went under. 596 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: There was some nasty court dispute. So perhaps they don't 597 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: have the money to finish off the rent. We'll get 598 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: someone else to finish off the renaos for them. Well, 599 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: the renots have been dragging on for six years, and 600 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it was another year or 601 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: two before they're done. Well, it doesn't seem to be 602 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: good for Sky's mental health because she said that while 603 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: they're eventually going to try and work things out, that 604 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: she's just not happy. She said in the past year, 605 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: her friends have said she did doesn't seem like herself 606 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: and that her light has been dimmed. She said it's 607 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: got to the point where she doesn't want to get 608 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: up in the morning and film content or show up 609 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: online because she feels so sad and depressed and like 610 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: it's all too much. So she doesn't seem to be 611 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: in a very healthy mindset at the moment, which is 612 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: very sad. She also sent further mixed messages over the 613 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: weekend when she posted two conflicting TikTok videos. So In 614 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: the first video, sky un Lockey appeared to be back together. 615 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: They were putting a bed together in one of their 616 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: newly renovated rooms. In saying that there was a fair 617 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: bit of arguing in the video. Let's throw to a 618 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: snippet of what they said. 619 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 5: No, but we'll fix the corner thing. 620 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: Some things that better left unsaid. 621 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: Do you understand that? 622 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: Okay? 623 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: See how it's me. 624 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: No, I'm coming down to your level. Proach. She makes 625 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: me feel like an idiot. 626 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 5: Okay, See it's giving attitude. 627 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: It's giving a bit of attitude. 628 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: She's so cute. 629 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: Bye, don't discuss with an age and any of the 630 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: problems that's all you need to say. 631 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 5: Okay, let's make a bed. 632 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: I found the whole thing really awkward because it seemed 633 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: like an attempt for Sky to demonstrate to her audience 634 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: Lockie undermining her. But I mean, when you are filming 635 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: the content and uploading it, you have the power to 636 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: manipulate that video how you see fit. If anything, I 637 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: actually felt a bit sorry for Lockie because she was 638 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: the one firing up at him. Following the little spot 639 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: that they had. They then jumped into bed together and 640 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: had a bit of a cuddle at the end of 641 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: the video, so it very much looked like they were 642 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: back on. 643 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: Well. 644 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: Sky had to jump in the comments and confirm that 645 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: the video was pre recorded before the breakup and she 646 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: was just sharing it now, which seems a bit odd. Yeah, 647 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: well because a couple of hours later, she posted another 648 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: TikTok miming to this. 649 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 650 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: The text on the video read is he cheating? And 651 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: she then shared a hack of how to check your 652 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: partner's recently deleted conversation history on their phone. She added 653 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: don't be naive cis with a crying and melting face. 654 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: Now. 655 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: One follower called Bell wrote, girl, are you trying to 656 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: say something, and she responded saying, nah, I just want 657 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: me Girley Pops to be safe with love heart. I 658 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I believe that it seems very pointed. 659 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: It was at this point when fellow influencer Bella Messina 660 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: entered the chat. So Bella recently separated from her husband Adrian. 661 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: They have two kids together, and she wrote, can vouch 662 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: that this feature can be very helpful, so that shone 663 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of light on what has been going 664 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes with Bella and Adrian, so much 665 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: shade being thrown. If you were Lockie, you would be 666 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: so pissed off by this video because she's trying to 667 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: ignite cheating rumors once again. I mean, if that was 668 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: me and I was currently living with my on and 669 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: off again boyfriend that we have two kids with, we're 670 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: trying to put on happy face for the kids whilst 671 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: doing a renovation. I don't think that putting that information 672 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: out there is going to make the situation any better. 673 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: So I wonder if she's taking a leaf out of 674 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's book and this is all just a quest 675 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: for engagement on TikTok. Well, it's definitely working because everyone 676 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: is very interested in it. Now, I think that is 677 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: all we have time for today. 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