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Speaker 1: Well, a very good morning, welcome to the show. And

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Speaker 1: of course it's Friday morning. It's time for the Week

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Speaker 1: that was, But it is a very special edition of

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Speaker 1: the Week that was today because it is the annual

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Speaker 1: Camp Quality Radio auction. It's a massive day for us

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Speaker 1: on air. If you hear about anything that you would

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Speaker 1: like to bid on eight nine four one four nine

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Speaker 1: is the number. Now, I'm very pleased to say that

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Speaker 1: joining me in the studio this morning, I have got

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Speaker 1: the independent member for Johnson, Justine Davis. Good morning to you. Justine.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Katie, how you going.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good, lovely to have you in the studio. Now, Justine,

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Speaker 1: You've got something a little bit special to donate this morning,

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Speaker 1: don't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I've got there's a one woman who lives in

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Speaker 3: my electorate who makes some beautiful clothes and she's got

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Speaker 3: a shop at Jake Homemaker Village. So I'm donating a

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Speaker 3: voucher for an item of clothing from her shop beautiful

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Speaker 3: and just so everyone knows, because it's been a very

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Speaker 3: busy week, the the voucher is coming.

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Speaker 2: But I'm wearing one of her dresses so everyone can

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Speaker 2: see what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are going to take a photo. I love

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Speaker 1: you modeling, and we are going to take a photo

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Speaker 1: so that our listeners can hear or can have a look,

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Speaker 1: I should say, and I'm at some of that beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's like a piece of artwork that you're wearing today, justin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, her clothes are magnificent. She uses local fabric, it's

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Speaker 3: from across the territory and makes beautiful clothing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, wonderful. So if that sounds like something you

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Speaker 1: would like to bid on throughout the morning eight nine

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Speaker 1: four one one o four nine. And we have also

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Speaker 1: got in the studio this morning for the CLP the Treasurer,

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Speaker 1: and he's also got various other portfolios. Bill, Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katie. Great to be back and create to

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Speaker 4: be in a new studio.

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Speaker 1: Ashou isness. We're very fancy in here now. Nothing's changed.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe, I said. The studio is beautiful, and

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Speaker 4: the news the whole stand up thing is this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah nice, it is a bit different now. Bill, You've

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Speaker 1: got something a bit special for us to donate today

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, I snuck down a fishing and outdoor

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Speaker 5: world and I've got something that every territory needs.

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Speaker 4: You're not a territory.

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Speaker 5: Unless you've got some yetti in the cubit in the car.

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Speaker 5: So a two hundred and fifty dollars yetti gift pack

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Speaker 5: from the guys from Ronald Georgia Fishing Outdoor World to

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Speaker 5: give away today.

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Speaker 4: So it's got a little bit of everything in there.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Two very territory items up for grabs

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Speaker 1: from our politicians so far this morning. And Selena Rubo,

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Speaker 1: the leader of the Opposition, joins me in the studio

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Speaker 1: as well. Good morning to you. Oh hang on, let

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Speaker 1: me make sure I've got the right microphone on. Let's

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Speaker 1: try that again. Good morning again, Selena.

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Speaker 6: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 7: Good morning to you listeners and of course everyone who's

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Speaker 7: going to bid on the camp Quality auction today.

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Speaker 6: It is a very special day.

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Speaker 1: So yes, it certainly is. And you've bought something in

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Speaker 1: that is incredibly territorian as well. What have you got

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Speaker 7: Yes, So, Katie, I have a beautiful wooden sculpture and

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Speaker 7: it's come from one of the art centers and Tiwe Islands,

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Speaker 7: the Tiwei design and this art center is quite special

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Speaker 7: to Katie because they really support artists who have disabilities

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Speaker 7: to create artwork and to ear and an income, and

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Speaker 7: so I bought this a few years ago, and it's

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Speaker 7: quite special because I really like artwork that doesn't always have,

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Speaker 7: it's a beautiful bird's carving and statue which is sort

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Speaker 6: Sky, and I think it's really quite unique.

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Speaker 7: It's by an artist, good Harold Wunbara, and I think

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Speaker 6: And the only reason I'm willing to part with it

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Speaker 6: is because it's for such a good cause.

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Speaker 1: Oh good on you. That is wonderful. Well, look, if

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Speaker 1: And as we've said, it is for such a good cause.

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Speaker 1: So eight nine one four nine is the number, or

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Speaker 1: eight nine four one double nine, double nine, and you'll

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Speaker 1: That'll be up for auction for a little while or

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Speaker 1: for at least an hour and a half. I reckon,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep that going because we've got so many issues

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Speaker 1: legislation did pass through the parliament. The Colp government said

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Speaker 1: that ignoring ten and eleven year olds who commit serious

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Speaker 1: there's been more than one hundred and four instances involving

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Speaker 1: was quite a bit of filibusting. I guess you might

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Speaker 1: call it quite a bit of discussion overnight with this legislation,

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Speaker 1: but it has passed bill. Why is this essential?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Kaye.

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Speaker 5: Look, this was a platform that we took to the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four election as part of those suite of

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Speaker 5: But the big piece of this legislation, particularly around the

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Speaker 5: lowering the age of criminal responsibility, is the ability for

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Speaker 5: we see seeing those kids between ten and twelve committing

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Speaker 5: the ability to be able to intervene a little bit

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Speaker 1: Well, there has been quite a bit of pushback. I

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Speaker 1: greater scrutiny before it passed. Selena, I might go to

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Speaker 1: you first, why do you think that this is such

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Speaker 1: bad legislation when I mean you yourself know obviously, over

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Katie.

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Speaker 7: The reason why the Labor opposition didn't support the legislation

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Speaker 7: based on any evidence. We do not dispute, and I

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Speaker 7: not dispute that young people should not be accountable for actions.

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Speaker 7: We absolutely believe that, and that they should face the consequences,

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Speaker 7: But it's how do you work with that young person,

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Speaker 1: You admit though, that LABOR did fail in that path.

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Speaker 7: It's not an easy fix and we know that, and

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Speaker 7: What we do fundamentally believe is that good laws need

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Speaker 7: what the CP has done for this particular legislation that

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Speaker 7: is hugely concerning not just for us as labor, the

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Speaker 7: But all of those experts who have come out about

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Speaker 7: this particular legislation, Katie, they have been dismissed, they have

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Speaker 7: and it's been rammed through Parliament in a very unusual

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Speaker 1: More successful programs already in place potentially helping kids to

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Speaker 7: For that, Katie, and we would like to see the

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Speaker 7: new CLP government continue on that pathway to ensure that

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Speaker 7: we do have those robusts and those programs. But they

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Speaker 6: That's different. They haven't showed us any new programs.

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Speaker 1: So we have very much welcome in place already.

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Speaker 7: Program there is going to be We do have some

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Speaker 6: But it is a slow burn, Katie.

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Speaker 7: We need to make sure there are more programs brought online,

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Speaker 7: more diversion, and more point that provides prevention at the

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Speaker 7: start and not the tail end. And what Bill has

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Speaker 7: failed to do today is to talk about ten and

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Speaker 7: eleven year olds now will be locked in prison cells

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Speaker 6: And that for me blows my mind.

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Speaker 1: Justine, I might go to you, I know that you

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Speaker 1: have certainly made it pretty clear right from the get

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a tough juggle at the moment because

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Speaker 1: a lord in the community are really really fed up

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Speaker 1: with the issues of crime.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: People are fed up with the issues of crime, and

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Speaker 3: people are share the concerns of the COLP about these

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Speaker 1: Look, there has been so much legislation passed through this

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great question, Katie. That's a question

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Speaker 3: As Selena said earlier, it's all been rushed through on urgency.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a new member of Parliament. I'm learning how

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the rules, the standing orders.

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Speaker 2: These bills need to go through on urgency.

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Speaker 3: They've ated to suspend those those rules so that we

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Speaker 2: We don't know how to answer them.

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Speaker 3: We've got a really serious job, you know, we're making

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Speaker 2: Do that job properly. We need to have the information

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Speaker 3: So all of those laws are laws that have can

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Speaker 2: How's this going to work? What's it going to mean?

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Speaker 3: I just want to go back to when Bill said

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Speaker 6: Have the details. Haven't explained the plan, What are the details?

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Speaker 2: Where are these kids going to go? Where are these kids?

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Speaker 3: Which the COLP have said this bill is not about

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Speaker 6: Every se if there.

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Speaker 1: Is a situation we're a child, Look, I don't know

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with that, and I think what people

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Speaker 3: That what people are experiencing is is not okay that

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Speaker 2: I'm a person of action.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to stay around, you know, talking about stuff

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Speaker 7: But in particular those two pieces of the legislation out

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Speaker 7: We do want to see things that prevent this type

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Speaker 7: I really honestly believe Katie, that territories voted the CLP

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Speaker 1: for accountability. But look, we are going to have to

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. The hour is screaming by. It

444
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Speaker 1: is just twenty six minutes after nine o'clock. That number

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to call through this morning eight nine

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Speaker 1: four one one oh four nine. Now, let's not forget

447
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Speaker 1: it is camp quality Radio auction day and we have

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Speaker 1: got up for grabs right now. If you would like

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Speaker 1: to bid well billion has donated a yetti pack valued

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Speaker 1: at two hundred and fifty dollars. We have got a

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Speaker 1: beautiful sculpture or a piece of artwork from Selena Rubo.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, we can get that cracking along. That is

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Speaker 1: a beautiful it's a it's a beautiful bird sculpture. And

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Speaker 1: Justine has donated a fantastic one hundred dollars voucher. It's

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Speaker 1: for a beautiful local clothes designer and she is wearing

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Speaker 1: one of the dresses today and it looks fantastic. So

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Speaker 1: get those bids cracking well if you have just joined

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Speaker 1: a seat. Is indeed the week that was, but it

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Speaker 1: is also the camp Quality Radio auction day. Now we've

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Speaker 1: got some fabulous items that our politicians have donated for

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Speaker 1: this morning, including this yetti pack from Bill Yam worth

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars. Now, somebody called in I

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Speaker 1: think and said that they would have a crack at

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Speaker 1: it for I think it was fifty bucks. Did that

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Speaker 1: person say that they wanted anyway? Bill said, Nat, you'll

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Speaker 1: buy yourself oh one twenty five. Somebody bit on, but

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Speaker 1: you said, Nut, you'll buy yourself for two hundred. I'll

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Speaker 1: d cake two hundred.

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Speaker 4: All right, you never have too much YETI well, that is.

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Speaker 1: Where the boat. That is where it is currently sitting

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Speaker 1: at two hundred dollars. And then of course we have

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Speaker 1: got Justine's voucher for what's the.

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Speaker 2: Business called justice Ice Screen Art, Ice creen arch.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, it sounds perfect. I'm just going to sit quietly.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to bid on it yet because I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna wait and see if anybody else does. I reckon,

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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I like that dress. I'll

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Speaker 1: see what I can get my hands on.

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Speaker 6: Make a change on the way out, Katie, take the dress.

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Speaker 1: I won't do that to you, Justine. And then of

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Speaker 1: course Selena's got the beautiful piece of tea. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: love it. So look keep those bids coming. Eight nine

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Speaker 1: four one one four nine is the number. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of very serious things to discuss

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Speaker 1: this morning, and while we are still sitting with Parliament,

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Speaker 1: I do want to go through the fact that the

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Speaker 1: new COLP government have said that they are going to

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Speaker 1: have new measures to improve integrity and transparency of Parliament. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is something that we've just spoken about, the fact

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Speaker 1: that legislation does indeed need to be scrutinized when it

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Speaker 1: is being passed, and Steve Edgington, the Leader of Government Business,

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Speaker 1: has said that in opposition we made it clear we

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Speaker 1: were committed to greater levels of transparency, accountability and good

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Speaker 1: practice in parliamentary procedure.

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Speaker 2: They did say that they did, yes.

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Speaker 1: And so did you guys before you're elected last time.

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Speaker 1: It's something that I always start off with on my

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Speaker 1: oh please the book.

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Speaker 6: You haven't read it yourself, have you?

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Speaker 1: So look they have said that there is going to

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Speaker 1: be new sessional orders which will allow for petitions to

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Speaker 1: be debated for double the time allowed by Labor, and

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Speaker 1: the newly established Legislative Scrutiny Committee will have the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to review and report on legislation. Now, this is on

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Speaker 1: top of Robin Lamley being announced as the Speaker, the

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Speaker 1: Independent Speaker, which I thought was an excellent move in

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Speaker 1: terms of having an independent member of Parliament holding everybody

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Speaker 1: to account inside of Parliament. And I spoke to Robin

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Speaker 1: earlier in the week and she did say that she

510
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Speaker 1: knows every trick in the book and she's been thrown

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Speaker 1: out a couple of times, so she knows what to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye out for But look, in terms of

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Speaker 1: the Scrutiny Committee, this is something we've spoken about on

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Speaker 1: a few occasions since the new government has been elected. Justine,

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Speaker 1: by the sounds of it, you think this is certainly

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Speaker 1: a move that needs to happen.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, look, I think it's fantastic. I really welcome it.

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Speaker 2: I'd actually prepare emotion to propose that that's what we

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Speaker 2: bring into Parliament.

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Speaker 3: So I can you know, that's great it's happening, as

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Speaker 3: long as along with some other measures that I think

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Speaker 3: could also enhance our accountability. Yeah, so I welcome it.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 5: It's good to be able to bring back the Scrutiny committeees, Katie.

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Speaker 5: And it was something that was scrapped under Labor on

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Speaker 5: the last government.

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Speaker 4: We're bringing it back now.

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Speaker 5: We still need the ability, of course occasion, we're going

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Speaker 5: to have to bring something in an urgency.

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Speaker 4: These things happen. We know that some may happen. We

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Speaker 4: may have to bring something in an urgency.

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Speaker 5: We get that, and we might not be able to

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Speaker 5: get that into a Scrutiny Committee. There'll be larger pieces

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Speaker 5: of legislation that we're going to be introducing. Of course,

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Speaker 5: over the next four months and they'll be going out

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Speaker 5: to public consultation, so effectively that is scrutiny by everybody.

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Speaker 5: We'll be getting those pieces of legislation now to all

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Speaker 5: the stakeholders out the public for everybody else to have

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Speaker 5: their input, and then there'll be other pieces of normal

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Speaker 5: routine stuff that we'll be able to get through to

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Speaker 5: the Scrutiny Committee for them to have a look at,

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Speaker 5: to go away do their duty allegence and then bring

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Speaker 5: it back to the Parliament. So that's our commitment I

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Speaker 5: suppose to territory and to territory Parliament now is to

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Speaker 5: be able to do that piece of work so that

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Speaker 5: everybody can have the required input. But we still need

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Speaker 5: those mechanisms for that urgency stuff. Of course, we may

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Speaker 5: need to bring something on an urgency, so we might

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Speaker 5: not be able to get it through that Scrutiny Committee

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Speaker 5: in that time frame. But that's that's just some things

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Speaker 5: we have to do now.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that this is still being worked on, But

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Speaker 1: can I ask what is the makeup going to be

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Speaker 1: of that screw new committee, like how many members of government,

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Speaker 1: how many opposition, how many independents?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's still been worked through.

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Speaker 7: At the moment it's three government members, it's one opposition

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Speaker 7: and one cross bench. And we asked when we did

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Speaker 7: debate that on Wednesday, to if the government's got the

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Speaker 7: numbers on the Scrutiny Committee, why would that need to

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Speaker 7: be Could you have three and three so we also

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Speaker 7: have obviously the new member for Nightcliff is a Greens

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Speaker 7: Party member, so we're referring to our independence and the

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Speaker 7: Greens Party member as the cross bench, but could we

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Speaker 7: have an opposition Labor member, a Greens member and one

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Speaker 7: of the independents on that member correctly, it would be great.

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Speaker 5: The Leader of Government Business Steve edit And said that

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Speaker 5: we may be looking at how that makeup was going

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Speaker 5: to be.

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Speaker 4: I know that we spoke about that initially and then

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Speaker 4: I remember it being written to the I remember it all.

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Speaker 5: Then coming back in and there was some discussion about

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Speaker 5: how that makeup.

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Speaker 7: And to do that expand it. That would be fantastic

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Speaker 7: because it would mean six members of Parliament to be

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Speaker 7: able to scrutinize that important legislation.

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Speaker 6: We think that would be great.

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Speaker 1: Look not to be a pain in everybody's bottom here,

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Speaker 1: but will it also mean that that tax payers are

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Speaker 1: paying more for each member that he's on a scrutiney committee.

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Speaker 5: No, No, when the way the committees work, Katie, Look,

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Speaker 5: I think just about everybody in Parliament's going to be

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Speaker 5: on one committee or another. You only get paid once

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Speaker 5: for being on.

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Speaker 4: You could be on, you could be on, you could

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Speaker 4: be on three committees.

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Speaker 5: But you only get a little bit of extra money

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Speaker 5: if you're on a committee because you have to do that

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Speaker 5: extra work outside your normal parliamentary process. So you only

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Speaker 5: get paid once. You don't get paid for being on

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Speaker 5: three committees.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll always ask the question, I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Treasure there, Katie stop. I'm like, I'm one of that.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to save a buck wherever i can, making.

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Speaker 1: Sure you're so funny. Now, now, look we know that

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Speaker 1: you know those scrutiny committees are incredibly important, all that

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Speaker 1: scrutiny committee, so I will be waiting to hear exactly

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Speaker 1: how all that rolls out now. I touched on this

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Speaker 1: a moment ago, but Robin Labley as the Speaker, I

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Speaker 1: think it's been a really good move. It's been interesting

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Speaker 1: throughout the week to watch it. It's a tough job,

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Speaker 1: right anyone's stepping into that speaker's role. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: over the years and just how interesting it can sort

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Speaker 1: of be, how wild it can get in Parliament to

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Speaker 1: put it exciting, exciting, she knows how many people I've

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Speaker 1: seen thrown out over the years. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: it's taken a lot for me to get used to

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Speaker 1: this week watching Parliament and hearing the you know, the

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Speaker 1: different electorates, the names get called out in different names,

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Speaker 1: people pop up. Yes, it's so it's so strange for

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Speaker 1: me after watching. Is what's it been like for those

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Speaker 1: for yourself for.

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Speaker 3: The moment, I mean, I think it's been an overwhelming week.

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Speaker 3: We've been dealing with really really important legislation at the

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Speaker 3: same time for someone like me trying to understand how

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Speaker 3: all the systems work, so, you know, doing our best.

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Speaker 3: In terms of Robin being the Speaker, I think across

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Speaker 3: the board everyone is really happy about that. I think

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Speaker 3: it's wonderful to have an independent speaker. I certainly as

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Speaker 3: a new member, feeling very safe hands knowing she's there.

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Speaker 3: I will say that I am really missing her on

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Speaker 3: the cross bench.

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Speaker 2: I was really looking.

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Speaker 3: Forward to to having her there in terms of as

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Speaker 3: another independent and as someone who has a really strong

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Speaker 3: you know history, and yeah, so that's a that's a loss,

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Speaker 3: I think for the Parliament. But in terms of having

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Speaker 3: her there as speaker, you know, I think across the

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Speaker 3: board everyone's really.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's quite important having an independent speaker.

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Speaker 5: We've seen it with Keja. Kezi was independent, not a

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Speaker 5: line to either of the parties, and then we've seen

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Speaker 5: Keyja left and we've had labor speakers for the last

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Speaker 5: four years that I've been there. And look, they've been

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Speaker 5: good speakers, I must say, but there's always that party

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Speaker 5: line that it's in some way, shape or form. We

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Speaker 5: understand that. But having Robin there as an independent speaker

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Speaker 5: is really good. She's not a lying to why the party.

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Speaker 1: She didn't cause any agitation amongst the back benches or

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Speaker 1: anybody else within the CP.

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Speaker 4: Bill Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody said it's great to have Robins as

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Speaker 5: speaking and look, she's our most experienced member of Parliament

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Speaker 5: now I think what was the term she's the mother

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Speaker 5: of the House.

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Speaker 7: And Keyser loving called the grandmother of the House, and

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Speaker 7: Robinson I'm not as old as Keasier.

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Speaker 1: Or am I look keasy is going to pop in

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on this morning for the Quality

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Speaker 1: Radio Auction. But look, we are going to take a

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Speaker 1: really quick break when we come back. We've actually got

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Speaker 1: some really serious issues to discuss, and one of those

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Speaker 1: is domestic violence and the continued concerns that we have

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Speaker 1: around domestic violence. So we'll take a very quick break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one oh four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: It is the week that was. We are listening to

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Speaker 1: the Week that was, and it is indeed Camp Quality

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Speaker 1: Radio Auction Day. Just to give you a bit of

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Speaker 1: an update, we are now sitting at over ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars raised, so after ten o'clock this morning, big money,

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Speaker 1: already wonderful money for such a worthy cause. And after

662
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock we will certainly be really knuckling down with

663
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Speaker 1: the auction. But if you do want to call through

664
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Speaker 1: this morning, if you'd like to have a bid on

665
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Speaker 1: any of the items that we've got up so far today,

666
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Speaker 1: eight nine four one one four nine. Now, look, I

667
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Speaker 1: have just received a message from Jerry Wood and Jerry said,

668
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Speaker 1: do you remember when the CLP tried to sack Keysya

669
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Speaker 1: sackedor for about thirty minutes and then reinstated her after

670
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Speaker 1: a CLP member changed their vote. Jerry, I remember that

671
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Speaker 1: very well. Actually. Now, look, there is a lot to

672
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Speaker 1: discuss this morning. There always is, and I do want

673
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Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: we know that a woman died after an alleged domestic

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Speaker 1: violence related stabbing on Monday. In a statement released earlier

676
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Speaker 1: in the week, the Northern Territory Police Force spokesperson said

677
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Speaker 1: that officers had received a report of a seriously injured

678
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: forty two year old woman at the local clinic at

679
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Speaker 1: lar Jamanu with a large crowd gathered. Now. The woman

680
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: was declared dead a short time after police arrived. It's

681
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Speaker 1: believed that she was stabbed with an edged weapon. The

682
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Speaker 1: spokesperson said. The woman's forty six year old partner was

683
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Speaker 1: arrested nearby. The fatal stabbing of the Largermanu woman marks

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Speaker 1: the seventh alleged domestic violence related homicide in the Northern

685
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Speaker 1: Territory since the start of June. That's seven women since

686
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Speaker 1: the start of June. The numbers are horrible, They're horrendous.

687
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Speaker 1: It's unfathomable. I think in a lot of ways, it's

688
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Speaker 1: hard to even find the right words to describe how

689
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Speaker 1: terribly sad that is. We also understand that there are

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Speaker 1: further two women in intensive care at Royal Darwin Hospital.

691
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Speaker 1: It's very clear to me that there needs to be

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Speaker 1: some really serious change in this space now. I actually

693
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Speaker 1: caught up with Rachel uber Gang yesterday from the YWCA

694
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Speaker 1: and one of the things that she said to me

695
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Speaker 1: that really stuck with me is that there are different

696
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Speaker 1: measures that they can do that they do right now

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Speaker 1: that help domestic violence survivor a victim survivors, things like CCTV,

698
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Speaker 1: different security measures at their homes, but right now they

699
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Speaker 1: do not have the funding to be able to help

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Speaker 1: the level of victim survivors that need those measures. Now.

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Speaker 1: We have been calling i think everybody in this room,

702
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Speaker 1: so many people have been calling for that needs based funding.

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Speaker 1: This is one thing that I think every side of

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Speaker 1: Parliament can agree on in the Northern Territory that needs

705
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Speaker 1: based funding is absolutely required.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: It's just tragic, Katie when anyone across the Northern Territory

709
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Speaker 7: is affected by family, domestic or sexual violence, and particularly

710
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Speaker 7: if a territory loses their life to that as well,

711
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Speaker 7: and it does affect us all. It's a two degrees

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 7: of separation in the NT, not six. So our friends,

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Speaker 7: our families, our colleagues are affected and just hearing the

714
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Speaker 7: stories that you've mentioned already and knowing some of the

715
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Speaker 7: stories across our communities, it's absolutely devastating and it is

716
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Speaker 7: hard to talk about. But what gives me some small,

717
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Speaker 7: tiny bit of comfort, Katie, is that we are talking

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Speaker 7: about lot more and not just in small sections of

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Speaker 7: our community. We're talking about it in the broader, wider,

720
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 7: mainstream parts of our community. And I think that that

721
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Speaker 7: is a way to bring the territory together because the

722
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 7: needs based funding is significantly the piece that is missing

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Speaker 7: for us here in the territory. And it doesn't matter,

724
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Speaker 7: like you said, what iteration of politics you sit behind.

725
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Speaker 7: We need to come together to join this and we've

726
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 7: already offered the new Chief Minister, Leafeddocciario our support, bipartisan support.

727
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 7: Labour talked about needs based funding for DV prevention for

728
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Speaker 7: the last eight years. We will continue to do that

729
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 7: for the next four years in opposition, and we reach

730
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Speaker 7: out to other members of Parliament and I Justine's very

731
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Speaker 7: strong on this too, to make sure that this is

732
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Speaker 7: an area, unfortunately where we have to unite on. We

733
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Speaker 7: wish we didn't have to have this as an area

734
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Speaker 7: of concern, but it will continue to plague our community

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Speaker 7: unless we have the resources that our frontline workers and

736
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Speaker 7: behavior change programs that really make a difference. And we

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Speaker 7: will do whatever we can in labor to support the

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Speaker 7: new government and work with our bipartisanship with other members

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Speaker 7: of Parliament to make sure this is an area that

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Speaker 7: we united on.

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Speaker 4: The stuff over the.

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Speaker 5: Last months, You're right, Selena, the stuff in the last

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Speaker 5: month has I've been absolutely horrifying, and I know the

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Speaker 5: Chief I think on a first trip down to camera

745
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 5: last month straight away was talking to the federal government

746
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Speaker 5: about that needs based funding specifically around the DV and

747
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 5: we're committed to that funding that was already announced previously

748
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Speaker 5: on DV and we've got to make sure it gets

749
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Speaker 5: to the right places to start to make that changes.

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Speaker 5: We can't have this continuing. I've got to get down

751
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Speaker 5: there and talk with the Treasurer and next month sometime

752
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 5: and again I've already spoken to him on the phone

753
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Speaker 5: last week and one of the things I did raised

754
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Speaker 5: with him was funding for the bush and funding around

755
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Speaker 5: DV to make sure that we've got the funding to

756
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: try and make this change, because we can't have this

757
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 5: continuing and we see so many DV offenders in custody

758
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Speaker 5: and it's it's been something that just keeps continuing that

759
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: no one in the community supports it, but it seems

760
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Speaker 5: to be rampant across rampant across the community. That's that's

761
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: something we have to change. We have to change a narrative.

762
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Speaker 5: We need to bring it to the forefront of everybody.

763
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Speaker 5: We need to be talking about it. We need people

764
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Speaker 5: to be aware of it and stand up and do

765
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Speaker 5: something about it, because that's one of those change mechanisms

766
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Speaker 5: we have to start. If you see it, report it,

767
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Speaker 5: don't don't hide it away, be upfront about it. And

768
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Speaker 5: I said, report it so people don't end up losing

769
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Speaker 5: their lives anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look, I totally agree. You know, nas Bill said,

771
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Speaker 3: just the seven deaths that you talked about, three are

772
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Speaker 3: in this month. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's a total tragedy.

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Speaker 3: As Saloona said, it affects everyone. We're all connected in

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Speaker 3: some way to people who are being harmed by this

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Speaker 3: and killed. We absolutely need need needs based funding. Also,

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Speaker 3: I've asked this a few times and I asked in

777
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Parliament it was really fantastic that the Corp committed to

778
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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty million dollars.

779
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Speaker 2: To address this. The Labor had also committed to.

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Speaker 3: I would really like to see the details of how

781
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: that money is going to be spent and when it's

782
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: going to be spent.

783
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: We know that there was a very detailed.

784
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Speaker 3: Plan worked out in consultation with people like Rachel uber

785
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: Gang and the sector and experts. I would like to

786
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: know whether that one hundred and eighty million dollars is

787
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: going to be spent in line with the recommendations from

788
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: that plan, because that's what I think would work. Just

789
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: like when we talk about having good research and doing

790
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: things that are smart and they're going to work and

791
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: make all of us safer. And I mean we've said

792
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: this again and again. We know that, you know, everyone

793
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: talks about crime, the real crime crisis in the Northern

794
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: Territory is family, sexual and domestic violence. That is where

795
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Speaker 3: people are being killed, that is affecting every single aspect

796
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Speaker 3: of people's lives. All these children that we're talking about,

797
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: all children have been affected by this.

798
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Speaker 2: That's where we need to we need to be putting.

799
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Speaker 3: I think all our energies there to address that, to

800
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Speaker 3: keep all of us.

801
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, is there something that could be happening in

802
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Parliament on urgency this week? Do you think, Justine?

803
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Or isn't that interesting when we talk about urgency.

804
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: So for example, the bail laws that were passed this

805
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: week on urgency, they're not going to come into place

806
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: until January next year. Difficult to know why that was

807
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: so urgent, Why we had to be making decisions, Why

808
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: I had to be making a decision on a law

809
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Speaker 3: that's going to affect people.

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Speaker 6: We could have had the ability, Katie Justice. Actually it

811
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Speaker 6: could have.

812
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: Ended up a situation where it's not happening.

813
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Speaker 4: We've got the bart laws in on ergcy and just because.

814
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Speaker 7: They don't start till next year, Bill, I don't think

815
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Speaker 7: that the CLP little bitute time to do that.

816
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: The bit of work behind the scenes for them to

817
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 5: be enacted, to be lovely, to be able to come

818
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Speaker 5: in and in the perfect world we could do the

819
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: on urgency in Parliament during the week and the new laws.

820
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Speaker 4: Are enacted next week.

821
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Speaker 5: It doesn't I wish it worked like that. It doesn't

822
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 5: work that it takes a little bit of time to

823
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Speaker 5: do that, because if we didn't bring a an urgency

824
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Speaker 5: this week, then we would have had to wait until

825
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: next month, and that would delay bringing those change those

826
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Speaker 5: buyer laws in even further down the track. So that's

827
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Speaker 5: why our boarding nurged to try and get those changes in.

828
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Speaker 7: Agency would then create the ability for the new government

829
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Speaker 7: to then put that legislation to the Administrator, who a sense,

830
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Speaker 7: which means that basically provides the signature to then gazette

831
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Speaker 7: and make that law become real and implement it. Usually,

832
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Speaker 7: I mean I've seen some of that happen within a week. Basically,

833
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 7: it's a meeting from the Executive Council, which is two

834
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Speaker 7: ministers plus the Administrator. They inform the Administrator of the

835
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Speaker 7: new legislation, the administrator provides their assent.

836
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Speaker 6: How come that's not the case, but I would like

837
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Speaker 6: to know that.

838
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Speaker 5: To a simple legislation, it is quite easy. You can

839
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Speaker 5: move through that process.

840
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Speaker 6: If that's for all legislation, Katie.

841
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: For quite detailed legislation, it can take a little bit

842
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Speaker 5: more time.

843
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 6: At two years and that's the process.

844
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Speaker 5: There's quite a lot of change in that in that

845
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Speaker 5: b space. So to get that right and to get

846
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Speaker 5: it in place, I.

847
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Speaker 6: Think it's just disingenuous.

848
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Speaker 7: The COLP promised they would create immediate change, and like

849
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Speaker 7: Justine saying, we're not going to see that exactly, just

850
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 7: too slow for territorians.

851
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Speaker 3: Like sorry, Savannah, but this is complicated legislation and that's

852
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Speaker 3: that's the other thing that we've been saying, having time

853
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Speaker 3: to actually look at the unintended consequences of this legislation,

854
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Speaker 3: which I could already see in parliament this week. You know,

855
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Speaker 3: as a member of Parliament, a lawmaker, I didn't have

856
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Speaker 3: time to consider what the consequences might be of that law.

857
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Speaker 3: And then the next day we're passing other laws that

858
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Speaker 3: are going to mean that you know, we're locking up

859
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Speaker 3: or denying bail to tell the presumption of denying about

860
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Speaker 3: to ten year olds, changing the definition of.

861
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Speaker 4: What we're not just talking about children, just.

862
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Speaker 2: We're not just talking about children.

863
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Speaker 4: We're talking about about children.

864
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Speaker 2: And let's not forget we're.

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Speaker 5: Talking about Baier reform for adults and children, and this

866
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Speaker 5: is for vile offenders. And this goes some way to

867
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Speaker 5: trying to do with some of this domestic violence issues.

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Speaker 4: That we're facing, Bil.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain the new definition of serious crime under

870
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Speaker 3: that legislation? What that now?

871
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Speaker 5: A serious crime is a crime that has some aggravation

872
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: and it sits within the Criminal Codec. So there are

873
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Speaker 5: a number of factors that determine what a serious crime

874
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Speaker 5: or serious offending is. So I think if you're talking

875
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Speaker 5: that the high level of aggravated assault becomes a serious crime,

876
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Speaker 5: if my memory serves me correct, a normal assault wouldn't

877
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 5: be a serious crime. There's a level that sits within

878
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 5: the Criminal codec which determines what is classed as a

879
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: serious crime.

880
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: Fact is my mind, and these are the kind of

881
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: questions we need to know if this is going to

882
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: be what's impacting on people. My understanding from asking questions

883
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: is that serious crime is now going to include drugs,

884
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: It's going to include things like threatened to kill. And

885
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: if we talk about domestic violence, that if a woman's

886
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: trying to escape from her partner she says I'm going

887
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: to kill you, that now can be defined.

888
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 7: As a serious Yes, So, Katie, that's an area the

889
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 7: implications of unintended consequences. Without having that time to fully

890
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 7: scrutinize the bill, we will see examples like what Justine's

891
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 7: alluding to, where maybe a woman is escaping family domestic violence,

892
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 7: they've used a weapon to protect themselves, and now the

893
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 7: discretionary powers from the judges to provide a presumption of

894
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 7: bail is now completely removed, so considering an individual circumstance

895
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 7: is no longer available to the judges.

896
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: I absolutely understand the concerns around that, but I guess

897
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: to look at this from the other side of things,

898
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: and following on from discussions that I've had with Samaralavity,

899
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: for example, you know what the community expects as well,

900
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: is that if somebody commits a serious violent offense and

901
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: that they you know, that a weapon is involved, a

902
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: lot of members of the community really believe that they

903
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: should not then be out on bail and in a

904
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: situation where somebody is able to be.

905
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: Murdered, Okay, start with no, start with presumption atgainst, but

906
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: they need to prove to the judge and to the

907
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 5: community why they should be allowed back out on the streets.

908
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: And that's a good starting point.

909
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: And Katie, I'm not disagreeing with that.

910
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is that when we're talking about these

911
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: complicated laws as just described by Bill. We need to

912
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 3: really understand what the implications of them are. It's serious business,

913
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: you know, we need to do our job properly exactly.

914
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know.

915
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 3: I feel like I need to apologize to the people

916
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: who elected me and my community because I feel like

917
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't do my job properly this week because I

918
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: didn't have the time to actually get the advice and

919
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: understand what the implications of these laws might be. I'm

920
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: not talking I'm not even going to the content of

921
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: the laws. I'm talking about the process.

922
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a quick break.

923
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: It is just a couple of moments away from ten o'clock.

924
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: I am going to ask you all to stay for

925
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: a few minutes longer, though, just to go through the

926
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Camp Quality Radio Auction items. We will take a really

927
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: quick break. You are listening to Mix one O four

928
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: nine's three point sixty. It is the week that was, well,

929
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: it is indeed the week that was, but a little

930
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: bit different this week because it is the Camp Quality

931
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: Radio Auction Day. It's a day that really everything's thrown

932
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: out the window, all the rules and we just get

933
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: to have fun on air. Well, once all this discussion finishes,

934
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: which it has now. So we've got three items, one

935
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: from each of you this morning that is up for grabs. Now,

936
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: bill Yan, you've got this YETI packets currently somebody bit

937
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five dollars, but you said, nah,

938
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 1: I'll keep it myself for two hundred.

939
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: Never have too much yety in the territory, never have

940
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: too much.

941
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: YETI it's so true, isn't it. My kids lose their

942
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: water bottles everywhere though, so I just don't I have

943
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: to go with. I feel like they need to take

944
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: a milk bottle basically so they don't lose their.

945
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: I'm forever losing the stuff. That's why I have to

946
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: keep buying it.

947
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: So two hundred dollars is where it's sitting at right now.

948
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 1: Eight nine four one double nine, double nine. If you'd

949
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: like to bid on that. Now, Selena, you've got a

950
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: beautiful indigenous sculpture for us. Oh, look at that. Very good.

951
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: It's made out of wood. It's from tee Wee design

952
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 6: from Bathistyl.

953
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful it is, and.

954
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 6: It's been painted as well.

955
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what I reckon? My mother would love

956
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: that how much do you think that that should start at.

957
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 7: It would be great to see it start at a

958
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 7: hundred yep, and then see what goes.

959
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: From there, see what goes from there. I reckon that.

960
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 7: I think it's a beautiful like stretched up to the

961
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 7: sky and he's looking up.

962
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: All right, Well look, let's let's give it a little while.

963
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself do I have a crack at everything?

964
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: The price up? I was thinking, oh my mom would

965
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: love that for Christmas.

966
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: It would be a great Christmas present, it would be.

967
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: And Justine, well, Justine, you are wearing one of the

968
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: beautiful creations that somebody can put towards one hundred dollars

969
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: towards one of those beautiful dresses or something else that

970
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: they might like to get made.

971
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: Yep.

972
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: So local designer, local fabrics. Let's support our local businesses.

973
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: That Irene Omarra, who makes these dresses and runs shop,

974
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: is an artist.

975
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: Yep.

976
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't recommend her. I love all her clothes.

977
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: So beautiful stuff. So we are going to start the

978
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: bid at one hundred dollars eight nine four to one,

979
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: double nine, double nine. If you would like to place

980
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: a bid on that voucher, it is a one hundred

981
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: dollars voucher, so I think start at the one hundred dollars.

982
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: This is all for a wonderful cause. It's for camp

983
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: quality and they do so much for young people here

984
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory who are going through a really

985
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: tough battle. So I think it's an incredible cause. You've

986
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: got a d down.

987
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 7: Happy to start one hundred dollars for Dustine's dress maker.

988
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 7: I do like getting territory dresses made, and it's a

989
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 7: little weakness, but it means the money goes back into

990
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 7: the territory. So I'll take one hundred dollars as the

991
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 7: first bidder.

992
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: Absolutely the winning bit.

993
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. Good on you, all right, So

994
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars sitting with Selena there for the beautiful

995
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: tell us.

996
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 6: Again.

997
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 3: The name of the business just it called Ice Screen Art,

998
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: so it's in Jape Homemaker.

999
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: Village, Ice Green Art in Jape Homemaker Village. I'm just

1000
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: making note of that, so I'm gonna have to go

1001
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: and check it out. Sticky be exactly That's exactly what

1002
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I was think. You Well, thank you three so much

1003
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. We're going to keep your

1004
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: auction items going for about another half an hour and

1005
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: we will let you know how they go. But thank

1006
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: you so much for your donations. Thank you for joining

1007
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: us as well this morning, for the week that was,

1008
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: and for Camp Quality Radio Auction Day. Selena Rubou, thanks

1009
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: so much for your time.

1010
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 6: Thank you, Katie, thanks for having me back.

1011
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Bill Yeah, thank you so much for your time.

1012
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: Always great to be here, Katie.

1013
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Lovely lovely to have you in the studio. Justin Davis,

1014
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time.

1015
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, have a great week you too.

1016
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Thank you. You are listening to Mix one O four

1017
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: nine's three p sixty. We're going to take a bit

1018
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: of a break when we come back. Well, we have

1019
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: got so many wonderful auction items up for grabs. Our

1020
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: politicians have just really come through with the goods this year.

1021
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: I've got to tell you