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Speaker 1: Well, a busy, busy day in Canberra. I would anticipate

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Speaker 1: we have got Luke Gosling on the line live in Camber.

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Speaker 1: I'm just having a bit of trouble for some reason

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Speaker 2: But hopefully I'm able to get him. I think i've

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Speaker 2: got him now. Good morning, Luke. Hey Katie, Yeah, really good.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show. Luke.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look what's going on with the coalition this morning?

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Speaker 2: Any word yet whether this spill has happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we had a vote earlier and I was having

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, so will be all no resulting yet no

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's quite a bit going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether you've seen what's going on in

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, I saw a couple of days

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, Luke, we know that earlier this week

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Speaker 1: Yeah, spot on, we know that we've you and I

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, look, it is good to hear that everybody's

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Speaker 2: Look a couple of quick ones.

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Speaker 1: I know you're pressed for time this morning, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah it does. And yeah there's Western Australian long haul

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, even earlier in the week, Quantus announce like

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Speaker 1: they're claiming flights that are three hundred and thirty nine

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just like it's just I feel like

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Speaker 2: We love everything about this place, but it's the.

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Speaker 1: One thing that you know, if you could fly in

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Speaker 3: And that's the argument that I make the Corners and

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Speaker 3: we can build the population up here, but we can't

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Speaker 3: fairy goo. So we meet with them often. I'm really

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Speaker 3: connectivity is number one. There's exciting things happening, with lots

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Speaker 3: but there's lots more industry coming. We're going to need

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Speaker 3: we'll keep want it and I hope people can write

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Speaker 3: into the Productivity Commission. Check my Facebook page.

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Speaker 2: Out totally agree.

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Speaker 1: Hey Luke, really quick one from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Can you ask Lue Gosling what date Mornjarro is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the PBS.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know about that, but you might.

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Speaker 3: I don't, but I'll put an update on that on

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Speaker 3: the Facebook page. I'll just put a Facebook page up.

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Speaker 3: Great talk Katie today and here's some information that I

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Speaker 1: Yeah it sounds good, Hey, Luke, really quick Nightcliff the

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Speaker 1: by election the Chief Miness still confirmed this morning. Seventh

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Speaker 1: of March is the date? Is it labors to win back?

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Speaker 3: There has been labor for most of this century and that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, isn't it twenty four years? I think yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think we're going to have an excellent

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Speaker 2: So is that it smelt?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they probably announced it, David, but

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if it ends up being that bloke,

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Speaker 3: But I know that I know that we you know,

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Speaker 3: it's a classic example down here, Katie, is that we're

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Speaker 3: And I'm not doing that in a sensible way, in

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Speaker 1: Well, Luke Gosling, the Member for Solomon, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. Almost got you to

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Speaker 1: give us an announcement about the labor seat for nightclip.

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Speaker 1: I reckon we all know it's going to be anyway.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,