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Speaker 1: Oh well, before we get to the most listened to

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Speaker 2: Fish is launching.

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Speaker 1: Well today, I will introduce everybody in the studio. Joe Hersey,

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Speaker 1: the Member for Catherine on her first ever week. That

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Speaker 1: was good morning to you, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners. Yes, happy to

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Speaker 2: And we're welcoming back nine News. Darwin's Kathleen Gazol good morning,

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Speaker 2: welcome back.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got Keesi at Purich, the Member for Goider,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Morning everyone, morning bush people.

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Speaker 1: And then we've also got Lauren Moss, good morning to you,

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Speaker 1: the Minister for various different things.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you in the studio and chocolate no

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Speaker 2: key did break.

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Speaker 4: Very good children.

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Speaker 1: We've got a giant Barrelmundy outside because the launch of

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Speaker 1: the million dollar Fish.

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Speaker 2: Oh there they are, does the barrel mondy speak?

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Speaker 1: Oh good, a million dollar fish. We will make sure

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Speaker 1: we boast a video again of the million dollar fish. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think we've just we've caught her. Basically, she's outside

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Speaker 1: that a million dollar fish.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It is such a fantastic initiative, of course, the million

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Speaker 5: I think there's nine chances to win the million obviously

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Speaker 5: only one person gets it fish with the tag from

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Speaker 1: Well, and it would be absolutely glorious for tourism if

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Speaker 1: it did go off, I think, because it just opens

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Speaker 4: But while we do the tag from previous year's.

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Speaker 6: Count only the million dollar one.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I am going to be interviewing corn from

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Speaker 3: Does a million dollars to the I don't know next

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Speaker 4: I know they've been in the Roper in the Daily

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Speaker 7: One thing I know is that I have absolutely no chance,

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Speaker 1: And let's let's continue on that path of tourism. But

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Speaker 1: unfortunately on a onto an area that isn't such a

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Speaker 1: saying that crime is reaching crisis levels. Now it follows

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Speaker 2: Punched by an offender.

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Speaker 1: Now, I do want to play for you a little

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Speaker 8: My members last week moved motion basic describing what we're

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Speaker 1: Daniel, it is a massive call for a Tourism Body

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Speaker 2: Why have you gone down this path?

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Speaker 1: I think that there obviously needs to be very immediate action.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be speaking to Daniel Rochford after ten

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Speaker 5: I mean it's an incredible statement coming from the peak

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Speaker 5: Been speaking about crime for so yes, Katie, like, I

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Speaker 6: It is all just too little, too late. I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: Got people saying that they don't feel safe when they

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Speaker 4: Exactly, it's worse than the crisis point. It's broken. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: So other things that are happening don't see to do

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Speaker 4: The things aren't happening. And I think also part of

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Speaker 1: In Western Australia, this week in Western Australia, the Labor

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Speaker 2: Outside of the box.

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Speaker 7: So, Katie, when I was there last week, and I

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Speaker 3: There is a crime crisis.

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Speaker 10: They've been calling for help for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt I think that some of that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's d is calling for supportive of what the

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Speaker 4: Katie, as I said before, it's gone, it's gone past

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Speaker 2: We know what it means.

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Speaker 4: We've had a natural disaster. We clearly know what that means.

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Speaker 4: But it's gone part. It's gone past the crisis points

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Speaker 4: It is completely shattered, and they need to do something

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Speaker 1: you can't do that. You don't need to do that.

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Speaker 4: You just need direction from this government and using the

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Speaker 5: There's the problem with doing that requires the government to

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Speaker 5: I mean, correct, you know what ticks me off? And

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Speaker 6: I mean we've been talking about.

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Speaker 2: So we're getting we are literally so.

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Speaker 1: Well, and look, we've got messages that are coming through

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Speaker 2: I think it's one measure.

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Speaker 1: There certainly needs to be others, and there certainly needs

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Speaker 2: Thank you Keysier.

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Speaker 9: another bus passenger. As they attempted to remove this from

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Speaker 9: the bus, he is spat in their face and chest.

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Speaker 9: The transit officers have placed the thirty one year old

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Speaker 9: mail under arrest, restrained and handcuffed him. The offender was

446
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Speaker 9: arrested by police and taken to the Palmerston Watchhouse. The

447
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Speaker 9: mayor will be charged with two counts of assaulted worker

448
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Speaker 9: and we'll face the Dalmacal Court at a later date.

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Speaker 9: The transit officers do particularly well in utilizing their newly

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Speaker 9: granted powers to bring an abrupt halt to the drunken

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Speaker 9: offender's conduct. Novin Terity Police would like to remind all

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Speaker 9: members of the public of their obligations to behave in

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Speaker 9: a servile manner whilst and joined the use of public facilities.

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Speaker 9: The abuse and assault of any person, inclusive of service

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Speaker 9: workers will not be tolerated. Spitting is a particularly revolting

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Speaker 9: act that can result in lengthy custodical sentences.

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Speaker 1: That was the watch commander Mickfield's there speaking to said

458
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Speaker 1: Higgins George in our newsroom overnight or early this morning.

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Speaker 1: Horrendous stuff, I mean spitting in the faces and the

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Speaker 1: chest then all those offices and look, it's unfortunately not

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Speaker 1: the only kind of issue that we've seen around those

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Speaker 1: public bus services and also at those interchanges, and you know,

463
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Speaker 1: sadly another example of some really poor behavior.

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Speaker 3: It is veriable behavior.

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Speaker 5: Just looking on the positive side of it, in some ways,

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Speaker 5: having those transit offices. Having those powers certainly freeze up

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Speaker 5: the police to be able to be doing other things.

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Speaker 5: So that's fantastic that they are able to do that

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Speaker 5: and then the police were able to come and take

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Speaker 5: them away. So I mean, I think that's a tick

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Speaker 5: in that field of you know, doing something a bit

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Speaker 5: different and innovative to be able to give the cops

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Speaker 5: a bit more space to do other work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, I'll think if it's able to work,

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Speaker 1: and if you're able to do some various different things,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, that's where even like talking about those security

477
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Speaker 1: patrols and things like that, if they work and if

478
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Speaker 1: they're a deterrent, then they're well worth having a look at.

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Speaker 1: We might take a bit of a break. You are

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Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O nine three sixty. It is

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Speaker 1: the week that was in the studio this morning. Of course,

482
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Speaker 1: for the week that was, we have got the member

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Speaker 1: for Katherine Joe Hersey, We've got Kathleen Gazola, We've got

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Speaker 1: Keesier Purick and Lauren Moss, and there has been so

485
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Speaker 1: much going on this week.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to talk about the fact that

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Speaker 2: the fuel.

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Speaker 1: Excise has indeed ended and we are all keeping an

489
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Speaker 1: incredibly close eye on these petrol prices. Now, before we

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Speaker 1: get into any kind of discussion, I want to take

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Speaker 1: you through the terminal gate prices today because let's not

492
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Speaker 1: forget that the fuel excise goes on to the price

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Speaker 1: at the bowser, but at your terminal gate. So for

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Speaker 1: your unleded today, it's sitting at a dollar seventy two

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Speaker 1: point five. Now, to give you a bit of perspective,

496
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Speaker 1: yesterday it was at a dollar sixty six point five.

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Speaker 1: The day prior it was at a dollar fifty four

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Speaker 1: point four. So that's your terminal gate price has gone

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Speaker 1: up from a dollar fifty four to a dollar seventy

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Speaker 1: two in two days.

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Speaker 2: Then, Fear Diesel.

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Speaker 1: Today at the terminal gate, it's sitting at two dollars

503
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Speaker 1: four point six. The day prior it was at a

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Speaker 1: dollar ninety eight point nine, and the day before that

505
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, it was at a dollar eighty six. So

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Speaker 1: it's gone up astronomically at your terminal gate. Now we're

507
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Speaker 1: not seeing that quite yet at the bowser, but it's

508
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Speaker 1: going to.

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Speaker 2: Be happening, there is no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: So at the bowser at the moment, those prices are

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Speaker 1: remaining fairly steady. But I think it's pretty safe to

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Speaker 1: say that you're not only going to see the price

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Speaker 1: rocket as a result of the excise, but also now

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Speaker 1: if those terminal gate prices going.

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Speaker 5: Up, yeah, it's going to hurt. I mean we've got

516
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Speaker 5: a land cruise. My husband drives a land cruise that's

517
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Speaker 5: got two tanks in it and a boat. So we're

518
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Speaker 5: probably gonna have to go take out alone to how

519
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Speaker 5: to go fishing on occasion.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, this is the thing, it's here today, good one.

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Speaker 9: I like it.

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Speaker 11: Catie's for that's a long trip, good times at midnight.

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Speaker 2: Mustliest Legs doesn't understand.

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Speaker 4: Katie. This is I mean, it's one thing for us consumers.

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Speaker 4: I mean you can't go fishing as much as you should.

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Speaker 4: But the impact on business, it should never ever be underestimated.

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Speaker 4: And I've told the story before of the man I

528
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Speaker 4: buy a big bound rail round bales of hay, which

529
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Speaker 4: about eighty bucks seventy five bucks depending on the type.

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Speaker 4: He had to put another five dollars on it because

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Speaker 4: the cost of fuel went up. And he's just from

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Speaker 4: daily river coming in and around Darn on the top end.

533
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Speaker 4: So when you look at the industries that are heavy reliant,

534
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Speaker 4: heavily reliant upon diesel. You know, basically all the fuel

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Speaker 4: that comes into from.

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Speaker 6: Most things that the fuel that gets.

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Speaker 4: Moved around, all the transport with the freight and everything

538
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Speaker 4: like that, and just people who go out bush and

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Speaker 4: do all that work which is usually full drives, which

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Speaker 4: is usually diesel. All those contractors and workers are going

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Speaker 4: to start to put the price back on the product.

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Speaker 4: So it's going to push up the cost of living.

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Speaker 4: Yet again, they can't that cost no, and I mean

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Speaker 4: the bulk of our businesses up here, as we know,

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Speaker 4: a small to medium and they definitely can't absorb the

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Speaker 4: high energy costs on the high field cost. So it's

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Speaker 4: going to be a serious problem for us, and I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of business people would look really hard

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Speaker 4: at their bottom line and their costs.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 1: When we spoke to Luise Blato yesterday from the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory Road Transport Association, she did say, and I know

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Speaker 1: that they're impacted quite differently, but she did say that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there have been you know, there has been a situation

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Speaker 1: over the last twelve months or so where some people

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Speaker 1: have decided to not continue on in terms of running

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Speaker 1: their businesses, but she said that it's like it's going

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Speaker 1: to be really difficult in coming months and years.

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Speaker 4: And what's that product that additive you put in that

560
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Speaker 4: blue So apparently there's an issue with that as well. Well,

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Speaker 4: it's not too bad at the moment. We did ask

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Speaker 4: her about that, but I think there's a refinery or

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Speaker 4: somewhere in Brisbane where they're currently getting that ad blue from.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's sort of a long

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Speaker 4: term commitments. So that's going to be interesting to see

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Speaker 4: how it all flows. I'm sure that there'll be someone

567
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Speaker 4: listening this morning who's got some insight if you want

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Speaker 4: to send us a message zero four double nine seven

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Speaker 4: double one three six zero.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when you talk about.

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Speaker 1: That cost of living, and this is something that we've

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Speaker 1: spoken about a lot, Joe. I know that the COLP

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Speaker 1: have come out and basically said that you've got this

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Speaker 1: fuel Priced Disclosure Bill that's going through Parliament not next

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Speaker 1: week the week after and calling on the government to

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Speaker 1: support and.

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Speaker 2: Pass that bill at the next sittings.

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Speaker 1: The Chief Minister Natasha Files did say on the show

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday that they are going to be having a

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Speaker 1: look at that bill and what's included.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, Katie, and we introduce that in July.

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Speaker 10: But you know, with the cost of fuel, that just

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Speaker 10: goes on. As we know, we have the highest cost

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Speaker 10: of living here in the territory, and that has a

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Speaker 10: flow on effect right from you know, everyone right across,

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Speaker 10: whether you're going to do your groceries, you know, childcare,

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Speaker 10: everything freight. It affects everyone in the territory. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: that's good to hear that the Chief Minister is going

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Speaker 10: to actually have a look at that. Maybe we could

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Speaker 10: have some kind of uh, you know, consultation together, so

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Speaker 10: that will be that would probably be a first Katie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I don't know how deep were

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Speaker 1: you looking to it, Lauren.

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Speaker 7: I understand that Eva Lolo, who's obviously the Treasurer and

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Speaker 7: the Minister responsible for Transports, organized a briefing around that

596
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Speaker 7: particular piece of legislation, so you know, we've got an

597
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Speaker 7: open mind.

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Speaker 4: We'll have a look at it at it, you know,

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Speaker 4: and we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 7: I know the Chief Minister's been in touch with b

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Speaker 7: A Triple C, who obviously monitor around claims of non

602
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Speaker 7: competitive pricing those sorts of things and obviously is looking

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Speaker 7: at this issue across.

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Speaker 3: The country and also recommended that measure.

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Speaker 7: Of the excize. But you know, we really encourage people still.

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Speaker 7: I know, the my Fuel I was having a look

607
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Speaker 7: at that this morning, the my Fuel website where you

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Speaker 7: can see the sort of prices at the bowser and

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Speaker 7: you know there is a couple there that are significantly

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Speaker 7: different to some of the others.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I really do.

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Speaker 7: Encourage people where you've got the opportunity to to be

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Speaker 7: filling up in those places that have the cheap of

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Speaker 7: fuel and sort of like vote with your feet as well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how successful the fuel priced

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Speaker 5: Explosure bill will be to get through.

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Speaker 6: I mean, looking back at my story seven.

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Speaker 5: Years ago again about those good old Pete Davies and

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Speaker 5: the Jiles government pulled out that bill as well, and

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's almost the threat of doing it

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Speaker 5: can sometimes have anything different central prices. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: those big businesses, whether they would allow a law like

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Speaker 5: that to stand and then you know, more likely take

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Speaker 5: it to court and then you're going to have to

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Speaker 5: use taxpayer money to fight it to keep it in place,

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Speaker 5: which we've seen in the northern Territory and past times.

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Speaker 2: But it's incredibly it's worth a crackshaw.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know how successful it is, But certainly

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Speaker 5: it's more the threat.

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Speaker 6: I sort of think to myself that anything.

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Speaker 1: Look, I kind of think, you know, Adam Giles, for all,

632
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Speaker 1: you know, all the criticism that he copped over the years,

633
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it, he he did hold that hold

634
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Speaker 1: and did do a few things like that.

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Speaker 6: It did have to get dragged kicking and screaming.

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Speaker 2: Certainly, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I sort of can't understand, like I

638
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Speaker 1: know that my fuel lap is something that the government

639
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Speaker 1: looks to at different times.

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Speaker 2: Lauren, you just mentioned it before.

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Speaker 1: Essentially what it shows, and I did say this to

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Speaker 1: Sandy Ato, the Northern Territory Consumer Affairs Commissioner, earlier in

643
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Speaker 1: the week. It literally shows that everybody's at exactly the

644
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Speaker 1: same price besides about two of them. So I you know,

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Speaker 1: it makes you wonder if if one of them goes

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Speaker 1: all right, oh here we are a dollar sixty nine,

647
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Speaker 1: let's all go a dollar sixty nine, and then what

648
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Speaker 1: is always worth noting, I reckon is going from the

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Speaker 1: bottom up. So the ones that kick off a little

650
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Speaker 1: bit more expensive. And what we're starting to see today

651
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Speaker 1: is some of those coals express service stations have gone

652
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Speaker 1: up to a dollar seventy two, so they've jumped by

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Speaker 1: a number since yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That's what's to watch is the ones that are the highest.

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Speaker 2: Once they tick off, then.

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Speaker 1: All of the others follow suit, and then you start

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Speaker 1: to see everybody put their prices up.

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Speaker 4: So Katie, you know back, I'm not just someone send

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Speaker 4: me some information. Back in twenty nineteen, the Treasure, the

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Speaker 4: Federal Treasure I'll issue a new direction to the A

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Speaker 4: Triple Seed to monitor the prices, costs and profits relating

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Speaker 4: to the supply of petroleum. So, and I know the

663
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Speaker 4: Chief Ministry from memory did write to the A Triple

664
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Speaker 4: See in regards to our situation here in the territory.

665
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Speaker 4: But if I was the government, I'd been knocking on

666
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Speaker 4: that A Triple Sea's door and say, what are you

667
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: actually doing for us in the Northern Territory. You've been

668
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: directed to monitor and look at the excuse me, fuel

669
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Speaker 4: prices and what happens to the supply of our products here.

670
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Speaker 4: So what are you actually doing? What have you found

671
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Speaker 4: and what are you doing to help us or help

672
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Speaker 4: just the humble person on the street or the fisherman

673
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Speaker 4: who wants to go fishing, even more for fisher woman.

674
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Speaker 4: So I think there needs to be a pap stations

675
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Speaker 4: a fisher person, help a hunter and a gatherer, so

676
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Speaker 4: you need to be.

677
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Speaker 2: Catching her own fishing and for dinner.

678
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Speaker 4: That's right. So maybe it's when this fuel bill of

679
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: the colp is debated in the House, maybe there should

680
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: be some deep references and deep research into what the

681
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Speaker 4: h we'll see has said they're going to.

682
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Speaker 5: Do and actually doing it and the criticism in the

683
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Speaker 5: past of not having any teeth because they have investigated

684
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Speaker 5: up here before and nothing changes from it. Yeah, I

685
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Speaker 5: mean they need to do something.

686
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's take a very short break. You are listening

688
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Speaker 1: to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is

689
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Speaker 1: the week that was in the studio with us is

690
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Speaker 1: Lauren Moss, Kezierpuric, Kathleen Gazzola, and Joe Hersey. Now, there

691
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: has been so much to cover off throughout this week,

692
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Speaker 1: but I do just want to touch on after talking

693
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Speaker 1: about the cost of living. Now, this is a topic

694
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Speaker 1: that just continues to roll on and on and on,

695
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Speaker 1: and I feel like it's going to until we get

696
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Speaker 1: to some kind of resolution, and that is indeed this

697
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Speaker 1: public service pay freeze. We know that throughout the week

698
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Speaker 1: of course, well Friday last week it was Northern Territory

699
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Speaker 1: teachers voted down the latest payoffer. I believe it was

700
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Speaker 1: eighty six percent of the had said no, not good enough.

701
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Speaker 1: We're not happy with the offer that's been put on

702
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Speaker 1: the table. A little bit of a change, I think

703
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Speaker 1: you'd have to say to the Chief Minister's language through

704
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Speaker 1: the week when it comes to finding a resolution, and

705
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Speaker 1: it is looking more and more likely that something is

706
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Speaker 1: going to have to happen here. There is going to

707
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Speaker 1: have to be some movement on this pay freeze. But

708
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Speaker 1: where are they going to find the money? I think

709
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: is the big question on everyone's lips.

710
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Speaker 4: They can find money for buddy by elections, so they

711
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: can find money to pay our teachers and nurses and

712
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: police and firemen, for women more for the what they

713
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Speaker 4: do in their course of their employment. I mean, they

714
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: just have to find the money do the deal on

715
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: the credit card.

716
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Speaker 10: And also they can find the money for the replacement

717
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Speaker 10: licenses for octas, but they can't find money for teachers

718
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Speaker 10: to have a real.

719
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Speaker 4: So I mean it was ten million. I forget whether

720
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Speaker 4: the preschool was needed or not. They found ten million

721
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Speaker 4: for the preschool, something else for Vesty, three million for

722
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Bunda for this and something for that electorate. Was that Keith?

723
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: That might have been Fanny.

724
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Speaker 2: Bay mean think you know?

725
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Speaker 4: And like for example, out at to Midmen, we're still

726
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: struggling to get the bloody block fifteen fixed. I mean

727
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 4: it's that he'd just gone out to tender to refit.

728
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: It was damaged in that smoke and fire.

729
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: So it's been going.

730
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: They've been dragged their feet when it comes to spending

731
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Speaker 4: money in critical areas like to Midmen, which is bursting

732
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: at the seams.

733
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Speaker 10: You've only got to ask Steve Edgington from Berkley about

734
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 10: Ali Kurung. You know, there's continuous issues down there, and

735
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 10: there's been there and I saw no money.

736
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: And I saw something down in Alice Springs bath streets

737
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 4: meant to be revegetated and made pretty and it still

738
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: hasn't been finished, you know, So it.

739
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Speaker 3: Is a dog's breakfast bath streets.

740
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Speaker 4: Find the money, Just do the deal with these critical

741
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: public servants who are the front line workers, and just

742
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: let's get on with get if you can sort out

743
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: this issue. You know, like it's no good just chucking

744
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: a bit of peace, bit of bread, heat a bit

745
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: of bread there, saying come on, this should be enough

746
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: for you. You know, you've got to do some serious discussions.

747
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: And well, teach, I'm sure that the teachers union and

748
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: the fire officers union and all those kind of people,

749
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Speaker 4: I don't think. Sure they might be a little bit

750
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: unreasonable at times, but hey, that's part of negotiation. But

751
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: come to the table and put some serious money and

752
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: decisions on the table.

753
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 10: But also, and also it's about negotiation, not saying this

754
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 10: is what we've got and then the union has to say,

755
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 10: well no, you know, negotiating is people actually working out

756
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 10: some kind of resolution, not putting something up as the

757
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 10: government have and then eighty six percent saying no.

758
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Speaker 1: And I know that over the weekend as well, we

759
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: saw in Queensland the police officers in Queensland excepted an

760
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: eleven percent pay increase.

761
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Over three years.

762
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Speaker 1: And then I believe that there was also some other

763
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Speaker 1: sort of you know, some other initiatives that went on

764
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Speaker 1: with that. I think what we're going to find and

765
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: the difficulty we're going to find and we've all spoken

766
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: about this before, is that we're competing with other states

767
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: and territories. Whether you're talking about our nurses or our teachers,

768
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: whatever you you know, whichever frontline worker you are talking about,

769
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Speaker 1: we are going to be competing with those other states,

770
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Speaker 1: which is going to get increasingly difficult.

771
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's not just about pay, Katie. That's about

772
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 7: a whole range of other conditions as well, and teacher

773
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Speaker 7: wellbeing and principal well being and how we're providing professional

774
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 7: development around the increasingly complex needs in our classrooms. So

775
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 7: these are all things that government is investing in looking at.

776
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 7: And you know, yes, it is a negotiation and that's why,

777
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 7: you know, the government had come back to the table

778
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 7: with a more generous offer, and that's what a negotiation is.

779
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 7: So we will continue to go through that process with

780
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Speaker 7: the teachers. We absolutely value them. We've got more money

781
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 7: going into our schools than we've ever had and I

782
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 7: think that's really positive. I just wanted to make a

783
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: comment because it came up in there around the opts

784
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 7: and the licenses. We are pursuing opts for that money back. Yeah,

785
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 7: I don't think that there's people. I don't think people

786
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: out there are you know, I think they're pretty happy

787
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 7: actually that they will have their fees waved to get

788
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 7: that replaced. But optors should be paying for that, not

789
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 7: tax payers.

790
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: So just note for well, isn't that I mean, I

791
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: do want to talk about that.

792
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: That optus hack is just extraordinary, is what's gone on there,

793
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: because it.

794
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: Does affect potentially twenty thousand territories. The thing about the teachers,

795
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: or any person for that matter, in those kinds of work,

796
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: it is more expensive to recruit than retain.

797
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: If we're going to.

798
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: Start to lose teachers and other people by the end

799
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: of this year, given we're hitting into term four, it's

800
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: going to cost a hell of a lot more money

801
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: to buddy get new teachers than to keep the existing

802
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: good teachers we've got. Now, not saying new teachers wouldn't

803
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: be good, but the ones we've got now clearly our experience,

804
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: they've got knowledge of their school and the territory system.

805
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: So get to the table and.

806
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: See how many we've actually lost. When school starts next year,

807
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: because this is the school holidays that apparently a lot

808
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 5: of teachers then decide whether they're coming.

809
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: Back or not.

810
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the government really is now with

811
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 5: their backs against the wall. It's almost like they have

812
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 5: to backflip and go room to get it across.

813
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: So that I found interesting, and I will say this

814
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: to both sides, you know, to both the COLP and

815
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: also the Labor Party and even New Kesier, is that

816
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, nobody's sort of coming forward with any real

817
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: savings measures. And I think that fundamentally there are going

818
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: to need to be some savings measures made. One of

819
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: our listeners had suggested, and I actually think that it's

820
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: not a bad idea. You know, do we look at

821
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: at the number of executive level positions we've got within

822
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: the public service? Do we need to look at how

823
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: many consultants we are hiring and utilizing different So why not?

824
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: You know, that is the situation. I mean, our budget

825
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 5: hasn't changed. Our budget is still absolutely shot and even

826
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: worse than when Langolance's report came out five years ago.

827
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 6: So I mean the government does have to.

828
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: Do budget repair, and I mean credit to the chiefs

829
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 5: she's sticking to it and saying that we're in a

830
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: position that we.

831
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Speaker 6: Have to fix it still.

832
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 5: But you know, public servants going through what has had

833
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 5: just had to go through with the pandemic. Do deserve

834
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: to be rewarded for the hard work that they did.

835
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: It's not just teachers facing this, it's the firefighters, it's

836
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: the nurses, it's the corrections offices. And as you said,

837
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: recruiting from interstate is extremely difficult when you're facing up

838
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 5: against those other benefits that they're getting.

839
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Speaker 1: We will take a very short break, and when we

840
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: come back, I am teen to talk about that Optus

841
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: hack that's coming your way very shortly right here on

842
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is the

843
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: week that was you are listening to the week that

844
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: was only a few minutes left.

845
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: And we know that.

846
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: OPTAs has advised that a number of Northern Territory customers

847
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: whose driver's license data has been stolen will it's around

848
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: twenty thousand they're suspecting for the Northern Territory. And you know,

849
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: I was getting messages yesterday from listeners saying that they

850
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: hadn't been Optus customers for quite some time, and still

851
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, their data has been shared.

852
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 6: That's probably more than that twenty thousand.

853
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're also still in the database in that in

854
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: the bottom left corner of the computers the past customers.

855
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: But it's just unbelievable.

856
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: I just find it extraordinary that some personal persons have

857
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: hacked into a major corporate company. And I can guarantee

858
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: you all the other big corporates around these, including telsterone

859
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: ever else has telecommunications, we're looking pretty clearly having a

860
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: very close.

861
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: Security at their security.

862
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 5: The nine network was hacked over a year ago when

863
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 5: you know, before I went on maternally and the nine

864
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: network was hacked. Our entire broadcast across the country, our

865
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 5: computer systems, our archives and everything was completely impacted.

866
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Speaker 4: So it's almost an industry in itself, you know, this

867
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: this hacking business, and I find it just really strange that,

868
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: you know, whoever the persons are, you know, we only

869
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: want a million, like seriously, if you're going to hack

870
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 4: something like exactly because when they catch it, you're going

871
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: to be in big trouble, So that'd be bloody worth it.

872
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable to think though that, you know, in

873
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: this day and age like that many people's personal.

874
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 6: Data the technology, Yeah, it.

875
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: Really does, and and you know how much of an

876
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: impact it can have, and.

877
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: They care to apparently to do with medicare. It's all

878
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: and the past. What's something it's all to do with

879
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: that you need one hundred points to get something and

880
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: I just not that. I'm putting a plug out for

881
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: the mates at Telsa, but I've never been with actors.

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Speaker 10: It's just you're not with Tea in the territory.

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Speaker 3: It's not worth being.

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Speaker 4: Plug in te Look.

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Speaker 1: A bit of a light message here from from one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners, Dean from Bakewell. He said, Hey, Katie

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Speaker 1: and guys, just wanted to lighten the conversation for a bit.

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Speaker 1: Tell everybody on the panel for the first time in

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Speaker 1: territory history, it's actually cheaper to fly than drive.

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Speaker 10: I don't know about that because extremely expensive at the moment.

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Speaker 4: What about a gas Does that get affected.

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Speaker 6: By your post?

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Speaker 2: No, honestly I do not read it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got so many messages coming through this morning.

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Speaker 1: There has been a lot coming through on the text

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Speaker 1: line obviously plenty of people wanting to, you know, to

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Speaker 1: have the essay as we've been discussing various issues this morning.

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Speaker 2: None from your mom Kezier.

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Speaker 6: This morning Nuchin into that mummy wake up.

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Speaker 1: Last timehe Kesier wasn't in the studio. Her mum had

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Speaker 1: messaged to see where she was.

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Speaker 3: She did and I.

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Speaker 4: Did check her phone. See that's the trouble when you're quick,

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Speaker 4: your mother. With all this new technology, you know, they

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Speaker 4: just get ahead of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Well, it has been a very busy morning this morning,

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Speaker 1: but we are going to have to wrap up for

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Speaker 1: the morning.

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Speaker 2: Lauren Moss.

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Speaker 1: Always good to have you in the studio. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for having me a hope see a few

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Speaker 7: people at tropicontomorrow getting.

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Speaker 2: Will you be getting dressed up? I've got a costumes.

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Speaker 6: Probably not, Evelyn might be, oh very cute.

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Speaker 4: Christume gets what kind of costume I've got?

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Speaker 2: What have you got? Key? But listen, Katie, seriously.

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Speaker 4: I want to put a plug in for Chris Nathaniel,

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Speaker 4: now Krista Thaniel from Tropic Culture. He's been forty five

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Speaker 4: years working in living in the churchy plus longer and

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Speaker 4: he's you know, he's the father of exotic fruit trees.

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Speaker 4: He grafts mangoes and those who know him, no, Christnathaniel,

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Speaker 4: He's got a special day on tomorrow at his face

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Speaker 4: placed down at Horn and it was a ticket sale thing.

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Speaker 4: It was sold out within days. Actually so. The other

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Speaker 4: thing about Chris was when eight DM was eight DM,

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Speaker 4: which was a precursor to this channel, Chris Nathaniel was

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Speaker 4: an announcer.

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Speaker 2: Oh, how wonderful for a chat wonder I.

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Speaker 4: Think you should yea because I mean Chris is well

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Speaker 4: in my view, he was the person who brought dragon

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Speaker 4: fruit to the territory. He's the prominent preominant expert on

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Speaker 4: all things fruit, trees, herbs, grafting. He provides all the

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Speaker 4: grafted mango trees to most of the farmers. So big

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Speaker 4: shout out to Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, may me get him in.

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Speaker 4: He can talk about eight d M days.

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Speaker 2: He's got that smooth silk voice. That's how lovely good

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Speaker 2: on him.

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Gazola, good to have you back, ladies. Wonderful to

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Speaker 1: see you and Joe Hersey, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us for your first week.

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Speaker 2: That was stunt pecky.

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Speaker 3: Listeners. Yes, I survived my first week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you around, Thank you all so much for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. You are listening to Mix one O

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Speaker 1: four nine's three sixties