Speaker 1: Get a Peter Hell, are you here? Welcome to You
Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing yet? The Movie Podcast where urch out
Speaker 1: to a movie lover about a classical beloved movie they
Speaker 1: haven't quite got around to watching until now. And today's
Speaker 1: guest comedian Damian Power. You ever dance with the Devil
Speaker 1: in the Belle lighted?
Speaker 2: I'm walking here, I'm walking here.
Speaker 3: Of all the gin joints in all the towns in
Speaker 3: all the world, she walks into mine.
Speaker 1: But what happening?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So? You ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1: Damien Power is one of my favorite comedians to watch
Speaker 1: and has been for quite a while now. For over
Speaker 1: a decade, the Queensland Natives dry sardonic wit has been
Speaker 1: winning fans all around the country. Damien's comedy dissects lives
Speaker 1: and societies hypocrisies. His routines are beautiful, constructed, logical, and
Speaker 1: always funny. Damien's the kind of blow that you may
Speaker 1: want to take your conspiracy theorist friend to spend ten
Speaker 1: minutes with, confident that when they return, their tail would
Speaker 1: be firmly between their legs and their tinfoil hat crumpled.
Speaker 1: Damien is always working out how to push the boundaries
Speaker 1: further and where he wants to take his audience in
Speaker 1: his next show. He's brave, astute, hilarious, and I'm bloody
Speaker 1: stoke and be' hanging with him today.
Speaker 6: My name's Damien Power, and my three favorite films are
Speaker 6: Glengarry Glen Ross.
Speaker 2: Hit the Bricks, pal and Beat It Because you are going.
Speaker 6: Out, fight club, this.
Speaker 7: Is your life and it's ending one minute of a pin.
Speaker 6: And fear and loathing. In Las Vegas, I.
Speaker 3: Was right in the middle of a fucking reptail zoom
Speaker 3: and somebody was giving booths to these goddamn things.
Speaker 6: And up until last night, the film I hadn't seen
Speaker 6: was The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Yes, is there an eighty song more connected to a
Speaker 1: film than Simple Minds? Don't You Forget About Me? With
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club, a princess, a jock, a nerd, a
Speaker 1: basket case and a criminal are all forced to spend
Speaker 1: a Saturday to together in detention at Sherman High In
Speaker 1: John Hughes nineteen eighty five seminal teenage film The Breakfast Club,
Speaker 1: a film about trying to fit in the class system,
Speaker 1: fate and a prison movie. Cleverly Disguised has a high
Speaker 1: school film a rare movie that took teenagers seriously. It
Speaker 1: made them feel seen despite a complete lack of diversity,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure we'll get too soon. If movies can
Speaker 1: actually help shape a generation, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: they can, but if they can, this feels like it
Speaker 1: might be one of those kind of movies, A cultural
Speaker 1: phenomenon which helped kick off write a director John Hughes
Speaker 1: extraordinary career, Damien Power. Have you ever taped anyone's buns
Speaker 1: together in order to impress your dad?
Speaker 6: Well, obviously, of course I have, and I mean we've
Speaker 6: all done that. I mean the sad thing is, of
Speaker 6: course mine was last week, but it was it's a
Speaker 6: weird where weird. It was a weird barbecue.
Speaker 1: But you're in Brisbane. It's all freedom day every day
Speaker 1: in Brisbane.
Speaker 6: You can say so the pape Uncle Gregg's last cheeks together.
Speaker 1: Again, Mate, Thank you for coming on the show. Very
Speaker 1: excited to have you on. Why Why did you choose
Speaker 1: the Breakfast cum Why hadn't you seen it?
Speaker 6: It's a good question. I've known about it and cultural
Speaker 6: references to it, but I just never got around to
Speaker 6: see it. I can't really pinpoint why or how I
Speaker 6: missed it because now that I've seen it, it's such
Speaker 6: an eighties like I get the folklore around it now.
Speaker 6: It's just so eighties and it's so of its time
Speaker 6: I can see. And it's funny watching something like that
Speaker 6: with the I have no nostalgia for it because I
Speaker 6: never saw it. So it's funny. I could just see
Speaker 6: how people would have laid it with nostalgia, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like it would have added a layer
Speaker 6: to it that I didn't see.
Speaker 8: So this film for me is quite a meaningful film.
Speaker 1: Like I watched it when it came out and eye
Speaker 1: and I continued watching it, and I really it's a
Speaker 1: real comfort film for me.
Speaker 8: I really, I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1: I watched it with my kids a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and so I had seen it, you know, I had
Speaker 1: seen it as an adult a few times. It's one
Speaker 1: of those films if it's on, I'll watch it for
Speaker 1: a while. But I was really curious, knowing that I
Speaker 1: was going to be speaking to somebody who hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1: What what felt, you know, like it was, you know,
Speaker 1: something from a bar gone era, and what still feels
Speaker 1: somewhat relatable?
Speaker 8: And and so and.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely get to that, and I will I will
Speaker 1: admit that somebody else had nominated a breakfast Breakfast car.
Speaker 1: I won't out them, and they and they actually began
Speaker 1: to watch it, and they and then I didn't hear
Speaker 1: from them for a week or two, and I sent
Speaker 1: them a text saying I sent them a text saying, well,
Speaker 1: I say it was an actress in her probably mid twenties.
Speaker 1: And I did text her saying, oh, yeah, have you
Speaker 1: watched the film? You know, go to the podcast. And
Speaker 1: she replied basically saying she hates she she just hated
Speaker 1: that she couldn't get through us right.
Speaker 8: We abandoned it.
Speaker 1: I said, well that, come on, and you know, like
Speaker 1: not everyone has to like the film that we watch.
Speaker 1: Just saw a part of it. It's talking to somebody
Speaker 1: who is still processing a film that just watching, and
Speaker 1: sometimes your opinion might even change throughout the podcast. But
Speaker 1: she was coming from pretty stern. I just couldnot relate
Speaker 1: to this film at all. So I am curious to
Speaker 1: have to find out what you related to and maybe
Speaker 1: what you didn't. But let's talk about your your three
Speaker 1: favorite films. Three cracking films. Glen Garry, Glenn Ross David
Speaker 1: Mammott written film with Albert Chino, Alec Bordwin, Jack Jack Lemon.
Speaker 1: Such a beautiful performance in Jack.
Speaker 6: Lemon unbelievable and did you so? And Ed how Horris,
Speaker 6: Ed Harris and Kevin Spacey, I think we let us
Speaker 6: say it. Yeah, and Alan r Kin. Oh yes, just
Speaker 6: think about that. That as an ensemble. It's al Pacino,
Speaker 6: Kevin Spacey, Ed Harris, Jack Lemon, Alan r Kin. That's
Speaker 6: not a and Alec Bordwin does a cameo, a monologue
Speaker 6: that won an Oscar. Just single monologue that you now,
Speaker 6: every single drama school in the world used, Like when
Speaker 6: I applied for drama school, it was on every list.
Speaker 6: You know, they give you a list of monologues that
Speaker 6: you could potentially perform in the audition.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it's just a phenomenal, phenomenal film.
Speaker 8: That may have been replaced by Goodwill Hunting more recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, but it is for those who haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: So what do you describe It's basically about a group
Speaker 1: of sale agents.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I think the key to getting into it,
Speaker 6: I guess, or thinking of it as framing it that
Speaker 6: is David Mammott, I guess that's really the thing here,
Speaker 6: isn't it. Because David Mammott, if you don't know, is
Speaker 6: a legend, well probably the greatest contemporary playwright of a
Speaker 6: live today, people would argue, And his dialogue is what
Speaker 6: drew that cast in, that incredible casting to do the
Speaker 6: film because obviously there was absolutely no money in it
Speaker 6: because it's not a big blockbuster film, but the dialogue
Speaker 6: and the script is so good they all agreed to
Speaker 6: do it. So I guess that's the kind of thing
Speaker 6: about it. So it's set in basically a single room
Speaker 6: almost entirely, and it's totally an ensemble piece, and it's
Speaker 6: just all about the dialogue. It's just all about the
Speaker 6: witty back and forth and almost dialogue over I mean
Speaker 6: character to a degree. It's so such a good script.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jack Lemon I remember being such a big
Speaker 1: part of the heart of that film, Like he because
Speaker 1: he's so he's so desperate to make the sales and
Speaker 1: to get the what do they call the things they need?
Speaker 1: The leads, the leads, the leads. He's so desperate to
Speaker 1: get the leads.
Speaker 8: It's so and you.
Speaker 1: Know, and he's maybe you know, being a bit shady
Speaker 1: in some of his dealings with you know, as far
Speaker 1: as being an honest salesman, he's probably compromising his own
Speaker 1: his own belief system.
Speaker 8: But it's it's a cracking film.
Speaker 1: And for those who don't know David Madman yet, like
Speaker 1: you said, I think you're framed him really well. You know,
Speaker 1: you can imagine Aaron Sorkin, for example, being a huge
Speaker 1: you know, being hugely influenced by David Mammon. It's in
Speaker 1: that kind of light. It's very kind of fast. It's
Speaker 1: not necessarily a naturalistic kind of way people speak, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very it's it's a lot going on
Speaker 1: in that dialogue, and it's it's really entertaining to watch.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's brilliant. It's so it's so entertaining. And
Speaker 6: Jack Lemon plays the most, as you say, the most
Speaker 6: pathetic salesman that has ever existed, and his life is
Speaker 6: totally on the cusp of collapse, and so he's got
Speaker 6: to get these leads and all they're doing is selling
Speaker 6: real estate. It's funny in itself. Basically they're all desperate,
Speaker 6: except al Pacino's character, who's the cool kid.
Speaker 8: Albercino's pretty Cockshaw.
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So he's like the Wisbang guy who's doing well, but
Speaker 6: everyone else is just on the cusp of, you know,
Speaker 6: basically getting food on, not getting food on the table,
Speaker 6: but just trying to hold their lives together. So every
Speaker 6: sit as they call it, when you sit down with
Speaker 6: someone to sell them real estate is absolutely crucial to
Speaker 6: them and their character. So they're desperate to sell these
Speaker 6: these properties that are probably bullshit and not very good,
Speaker 6: and so that's sort of what drives the whole film,
Speaker 6: is this continual desperation and absolute life affirming need to
Speaker 6: sell shitty real estate.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty much set over. Is it twenty four
Speaker 1: hours or is it a night or something?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's set over like one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which has obviously some connective tissue with the
Speaker 1: film we'll be discussing very soon. Fight Club has come
Speaker 1: up before some people's top three films. Did you see
Speaker 1: it when it came out? Because this was nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: which if you look at nineteen ninety nine and the
Speaker 1: films that came out, an extraordinary bunch of films come
Speaker 1: out in nineteen ninety nine, like The Sixth Sense came
Speaker 1: out Blair Witch Project, which was a huge phenomenon at
Speaker 1: the time. I think seven was then Run Lola Run,
Speaker 1: like The Usual Suspects might have been that year as well.
Speaker 1: Like there's an extraordinary number being John Malcovich American Beauty,
Speaker 1: extraordinary amount of like like indie kind of classics that
Speaker 1: came out that year. I think Three Kings might have
Speaker 1: been there as well. And there's a great book called
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine Best Movie Year Ever, and it kind
Speaker 1: of tracks that year. And The Matrix was The Matrix
Speaker 1: is ninety nine, Phantom Menace was ninety nine, which is
Speaker 1: a kind of probably a different kind of ballpark, and.
Speaker 6: Some really bad films as well, don't forget the horrible
Speaker 6: ones Pete as well, don't forget them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right, And it was a big year for
Speaker 1: twist films, you know, because The Sixth Sense has perhaps
Speaker 1: one of the greatest twists of all time. The Usual
Speaker 1: Suspects has one of the great twists of all the time,
Speaker 1: as does as this Fight Club.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, fight Club to me is a one of
Speaker 6: a it's a one It sort of stands on its
Speaker 6: own in my opinion, and it's not like any other
Speaker 6: film really, And now I think about it, and I
Speaker 6: wonder about this is the controversial I've thought about this
Speaker 6: film a lot, and there's a few things that I think.
Speaker 6: First of all, Tyler Durdin is an anarcho socialist, so
Speaker 6: he believes in resetting society back to year zero and
Speaker 6: beginning it again as an agricultural society where you just
Speaker 6: live off the land, and to totally completely destroy history.
Speaker 6: So that's exactly what Polepot wanted. So pole Pot was
Speaker 6: an agrarian socialist who believed in restoring society and destroying
Speaker 6: history and bringing it back to year zero, like back
Speaker 6: to farming. So anyway, that's just a little thing I
Speaker 6: thought of.
Speaker 1: I mean, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 1: I had my pole Pot compared and locked and loaded.
Speaker 1: I was ready the guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well you should have seen that coming. But
Speaker 6: so so or you know, when I was in college,
Speaker 6: people would have Tyler Durden posters up on their door,
Speaker 6: you know, like, you know, I'm trying to think of something.
Speaker 6: You know, it's cool quotes or whatever. You know, you're nothing,
Speaker 6: You're you're you're all singing, all dancing blah blah blah
Speaker 6: blah blah and like, yeah, it was also very similar
Speaker 6: to pole pot in his ambitions. So anyway, so you know,
Speaker 6: and the other interesting thing about it is this talking
Speaker 6: about diversity and you know, the world we live in today,
Speaker 6: and I'm sure we'll get into a lot of that
Speaker 6: with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 6: The the the this is just my take on it.
Speaker 6: The obviously a staunchly anti capitalist film, and famously, the
Speaker 6: Fox executives were apparently extremely unnerved by when they actually
Speaker 6: saw it, because they originally backed it thinking it was
Speaker 6: just people punching each other in the head for an hour,
Speaker 6: you know, like a fight. A fight from them like yeah,
Speaker 6: it sounds great. Wow, let's get that. Yeah, absolute fight club. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they'll be punching. Great violence. Not one of the most
Speaker 6: insightful takedowns of corporate culture ever created. So apparently it
Speaker 6: was quite an awkward viewing room, Like really, is this okay? Interesting?
Speaker 6: Year zero, you say, But so, this is what's interesting
Speaker 6: to me about it is the entire the revolution in
Speaker 6: Fight Club is of middle working class white men. So
Speaker 6: and I think that's intentional because to me, the message
Speaker 6: is of course, now we would say, well that's a
Speaker 6: lack of diversity, but the reason why it's such a
Speaker 6: cutting takedown of the system is that I see it
Speaker 6: as the benefactors of our society, White middle class men
Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety nine. Aren't they have the thing that
Speaker 6: you know that, they have, the job, they have the
Speaker 6: thing that they were promised, the society they're living in.
Speaker 6: They've got everything, and they're still not happy. And the
Speaker 6: message to me of the film is like, even at
Speaker 6: the top of this society where you're meant to be,
Speaker 6: you have the furniture, you've got the apartment, you've got,
Speaker 6: the job, you work in, the in the thing, you've
Speaker 6: got all the stuff. You're the privileged class. Nobody's happy
Speaker 6: and there's a deep darkness under current to it. So
Speaker 6: to me it's actually more biting because they're all middle
Speaker 6: class white men.
Speaker 1: And do you think they're saying to those middle class
Speaker 1: white men you are crazy not to be happy, or
Speaker 1: is it saying, no, of course you're not happy because
Speaker 1: these things are never are never about you're chasing and
Speaker 1: not the things you should actually be chasing.
Speaker 6: Definitely what Definitely, it's definitely the whole dream is fake.
Speaker 6: The things you want will not make you happy, ikea
Speaker 6: will not make you happy. Getting the apartment fully furnished
Speaker 6: and paying it off won't make you happy, and that
Speaker 6: what's missing is what Tyler Durton wants, which is a
Speaker 6: community and a sense of belonging to something closer to
Speaker 6: earth and community and tribal living and stuff. And so
Speaker 6: we need to punch each other in the head, as
Speaker 6: white middle classmen do feel what we're missing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: or antidepressants, that's the other way.
Speaker 1: What was real?
Speaker 8: What's interesting when it came out?
Speaker 1: Well, and this seems crazy to talk about this now
Speaker 1: considering we're going through a very real global pandemic. I
Speaker 1: am in lockdown, you are in luckily in Brisbane. But
Speaker 1: we're still living with all of this. Everyone is. But
Speaker 1: and this is frames ont of these ninety ninety nine
Speaker 1: films where a lot of these indie kind of films
Speaker 1: that were like high concept were coming out because there
Speaker 1: was a for those younger listeners. There was something called
Speaker 1: the ywo K bug, the millennium bug, which is very
Speaker 1: funny to talk about now, but if you remember, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how I was, how old you were in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. You're younger, you're younger block than I am.
Speaker 1: But there was a real anxiety about y U K
Speaker 1: and the Millennium Bug, and the real unease about what
Speaker 1: it could happen, like the stroke of midnight.
Speaker 8: I remember I was at ULARU. I think we were mates.
Speaker 1: Let's us get away from technology and go to the
Speaker 1: most isolated place we know. It turns out all is
Speaker 1: not that isolated and New Year's e funily enough. But
Speaker 1: but was it was? So I think thinking of those
Speaker 1: twentieth century Fox executive seeing this already in this kind
Speaker 1: of feeling, the feeling that was out there, they it
Speaker 1: would have made them.
Speaker 8: It would have made them nervous.
Speaker 1: But I think that's that, you know, people who wanted
Speaker 1: to dive in.
Speaker 8: I think that helped the movie in a way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a really interesting little piece of the context
Speaker 6: of when the film was released. The Millennium Bug. I
Speaker 6: mean looking, I mean it, companies just made an absolute
Speaker 6: mint of something that never happened or existed.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to look my kids in the eye
Speaker 1: where they've missed the last two years of school, and
Speaker 1: say we were worried about the millennium We were.
Speaker 6: Worried computers to be like, well cannot compute two thousand.
Speaker 6: That was That's how it people sold it. It was
Speaker 6: sold by the IT industry. Is like computers won't get
Speaker 6: the two thousand thing. It's like, wait a minute, I've
Speaker 6: got a calculator on my Windows ninety five machine that
Speaker 6: does tell I won't get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the Queensland government runs a very
Speaker 1: similar argument for daylight saving as far as the cows
Speaker 1: won't understand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we just go, yeah, that makes sense. All
Speaker 6: the cows I know hate it. So what about the cows?
Speaker 1: You know? Fear and loathing in Las Vegas Hunter Hunter
Speaker 1: s Thompson, What do you starry? Johnny Depp? Of course
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seen it once. It doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: hold a lot of real estate in my mind. But
Speaker 1: tell us how you read the book and then went
Speaker 1: onto the movie or did you.
Speaker 6: Well, obviously you've never been on a drug fuel Last
Speaker 6: Days where you wake up naked in a park or something.
Speaker 6: Because for people like us, it holds a lot of
Speaker 6: real estate.
Speaker 1: It's it's very true what you say. So so why
Speaker 1: this film do you go back to it? The noise
Speaker 1: are just.
Speaker 6: You know, it's obviously it's always hard to pick your
Speaker 6: top top films, but this one definitely for a while
Speaker 6: in my life held a lot of wait, so to speak.
Speaker 6: But I think it's Terry Gilliam, Yes, so you know,
Speaker 6: he's brilliant. Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro are so good.
Speaker 6: Johnny Depp's character acting in it, and you lived with
Speaker 6: Hunter S. Thompson for a while is incredible. Hunter S.
Speaker 6: Thompson really captivated me in my earlier years, in my
Speaker 6: twenties or whatever. Is like this cool writing, you know,
Speaker 6: I think for a lot of people a bit like
Speaker 6: Bokowski or something, you know, like WHOA, this is cool
Speaker 6: crazy you know kind of writer, kind of kind of vibe.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, the combination of all those those things
Speaker 6: makes I thought it was a brilliant film. It's so
Speaker 6: hard to watch all of it. I can't. The first
Speaker 6: half is about as far as I make it in
Speaker 6: one sitting. Obviously I've seen it all, but it is
Speaker 6: just such Terry Gilliam's never done drugs, right, but if
Speaker 6: you watch the film, it's it's an unbelievably accurate but
Speaker 6: as someone who's done psychedelic drugs, it's an unbelievably accurate
Speaker 6: portrayal of what it's like to be on them.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting because I spoke. I spoke to Ross Noble.
Speaker 1: We did Wake in Fright. I'm not sure you've seen yeah,
Speaker 1: the Australian film. Yeah yeah, And I said, the russ
Speaker 1: who doesn't drink, I said, to be honest, like watching
Speaker 1: Wake in Fright, it's very few movies have I seen
Speaker 1: make you feel like you are there and you are
Speaker 1: like take you inside a drinking experience. It's a very
Speaker 1: hardcore Australian outback drinking experience. But I really do feel
Speaker 1: like for someone who doesn't drink, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: you having a tiple, I'm going to talk about going
Speaker 1: out and going on a bender waking front kind of
Speaker 1: not that I've gone on and often shot kangaroos when
Speaker 1: I've had a few tennies. Not that not that you remember,
Speaker 1: Not I remember, But I feel like it's very visceral
Speaker 1: in the way that it makes you feel about drinking
Speaker 1: and that experience.
Speaker 6: It's a great comparison because fortunately I've done a lot
Speaker 6: of drugs and drinking. So I'm going to I sit
Speaker 6: in that weird middle ground. I've been able to assess
Speaker 6: both films.
Speaker 1: I have hit page it today.
Speaker 6: Yeah, lucky you got me on. Let me break this down. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's actually an excellent comparison because when you watch Waking Frider,
Speaker 6: you feel the hangover almost like come ups in your
Speaker 6: psyche because it's so accurately portrayed. It's like, and I
Speaker 6: feel the same about fear and loathing in Las Vegas,
Speaker 6: and these days I don't really do any of that
Speaker 6: stuff anymore. So for me, it's like it can be
Speaker 6: almost unnerving in the same way that like with the
Speaker 6: hangover in Waking In fright, you're kind of almost like, oh,
Speaker 6: you can almost feel it, yeah, from watching the film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely. All right, Well let's get
Speaker 1: on to the movie. We are here to talk about
Speaker 1: the John Hughes classic nineteen eighty five, The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Before I asked you what you thought of it? What
Speaker 1: did you know? Did you know? Did you know at
Speaker 1: least simple Minds? The Simple Minds came and the rough
Speaker 1: premise of the five kind of different teenagers kind of
Speaker 1: thrown together.
Speaker 6: Well, the beauty is I actually knew nothing, right. I
Speaker 6: think the most I knew was that it was iconic
Speaker 6: and like a film that everyone's talked about and everyone's seen.
Speaker 6: It was this film as like I don't know, like
Speaker 6: Star Wars or something, you know what I mean, that's
Speaker 6: kind of what. It's just this thing. You haven't seen it.
Speaker 6: You've got to see it, you know. And that's all
Speaker 6: I knew. I kind of got the vibe that it
Speaker 6: was one of those real eighties, classic, you know, kind
Speaker 6: of things, but that's all I knew. I knew nothing
Speaker 6: about what it was about.
Speaker 8: And what do you think?
Speaker 6: I really liked it for so many weird reasons because,
Speaker 6: like I said, I'm visiting it in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: like fresh eyed, So it's like it's a bizarre snapshot
Speaker 6: of eighty eight. It's it's crazy, it's so eighty so
Speaker 6: that I enjoyed. I can't believe it was. It was.
Speaker 6: It was a weird thing of realizing how much society
Speaker 6: has changed, so that it was just crazy because really,
Speaker 6: like they're basically assaulting that woman in it, you know,
Speaker 6: it's like insane and words that we just can't say anymore.
Speaker 6: And obviously the entire cast is white, so it was
Speaker 6: just like, holy shit, it was a jarring look back
Speaker 6: on what it would have been like to be. And
Speaker 6: the other thing is it also brought up nostalgia in
Speaker 6: a sense because it just brought back to this time
Speaker 6: when American culture pre the Internet and everything that's happened
Speaker 6: pre nine to eleven, where American culture was just so
Speaker 6: reverent and so it was just like when I was
Speaker 6: a kid, it was like the coolest place and the
Speaker 6: coolest thing. And American high school kids watching those films
Speaker 6: or films like that, it was just like, Wow, they
Speaker 6: go to they don't have school uniforms, and they drink
Speaker 6: coke at school, and they have this weird relationship with
Speaker 6: their teachers where they just talk to them like their people.
Speaker 6: It was just this incredible thing when you were a kid,
Speaker 6: American culture, you know. It sort of reminded me of that.
Speaker 8: I spoke to Sam Mack.
Speaker 1: We spoke about Mean Girls, which is a great film,
Speaker 1: and we spoke about that kind of wonder lust we
Speaker 1: had for American high schools, and like I want to
Speaker 1: go to a party where we drink beer out of
Speaker 1: red cups, you know, like you know, and I want
Speaker 1: a cafeteria. We don't have a cafeteria at our school.
Speaker 1: We just have a canteen, a hole in the wall.
Speaker 1: We have to line up and get our sausage roll,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to go to a cafeteria, you know,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, it's it's amazing, and I want one
Speaker 1: of those varsity jackets you know that Emilia west Bez wears.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, totally. And the lockers and stuff, and the
Speaker 6: culture around lockers and the gym and stuff, and the
Speaker 6: gym change rooms and stuff where they all had cool
Speaker 6: uniforms and it was Yeah, that part of it. I
Speaker 6: guess there was an element of nostalgia, you know, not
Speaker 6: for the film, but for the time, and reminded me
Speaker 6: of what it was like growing up, you know, like
Speaker 6: to look at it like that.
Speaker 1: And let's just cover the things you just spoke about,
Speaker 1: as far as the things that stand out that would
Speaker 1: not get done, like the bomb and not the left
Speaker 1: bomb that these you're not talking about fun, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about fuck no, no, no. It's a slanderous comment,
Speaker 1: usually aimed at gay people. And it's it's said that
Speaker 1: quite a few times, and it's it's a common thing
Speaker 1: with these movies, and I think we all know now
Speaker 1: outside of that damon, it seems that we don't.
Speaker 6: That we don't, we don't use that film.
Speaker 1: Watches it every morning but we all like that word.
Speaker 1: This is such a jarring word, you know, it really is, like,
Speaker 1: but I remember back in those days that word that
Speaker 1: those words were used a lot, you know, I you know,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily remember using those but I'm sure I
Speaker 1: probably did, you know, occasionally, but not necessarily aimed at
Speaker 1: somebody who was gay. It was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: in the same way that gay became a term that
Speaker 1: you would describe as something that wasn't.
Speaker 8: Cool or you know, in that kind of way.
Speaker 1: And watching this film, I feel like it's more uncomfortable
Speaker 1: to watch when it's aimed at somebody who is gay,
Speaker 1: as opposed to later using it here. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's right, like you know, it's a word as
Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. I've had more uncomfortable experiences when it's
Speaker 1: aimed at somebody, you know, as a you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know that you're gay, and I'm putting my boots
Speaker 1: on your neck as a result.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, I can't remember that, yeah that,
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Eddie Murphy is delirious obviously has
Speaker 6: has that word in the opening thing, and people talk
Speaker 6: about it all the time, and his commentary on aids
Speaker 6: and all that stuff, like, Wow, the eighties, different time
Speaker 6: and stuff. But yeah, that word, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 6: like that Louis c. K bit where he talks about
Speaker 6: that word being something that was equated with just someone
Speaker 6: being annoying. Yeah, you know, yeah, so I guess words
Speaker 6: changed meaning over time. But yeah, I certainly I can't remember.
Speaker 6: I mean I up into womb, but so I don't remember.
Speaker 6: There was no there was no gay people in the
Speaker 6: sense that no one would no one would ever owner
Speaker 6: you know, like no one would come out into them
Speaker 6: or whatever. Thad's just it was such a it was
Speaker 6: such a crazy conservative backward town when I grew up there.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I never saw it directed at actual gay
Speaker 6: people and stuff. But that's a whole different level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And the other thing that you
Speaker 1: mentioned to other things we will touch on is there's
Speaker 1: a complete like a diversity, the fact that everyone is white.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you make that film now, you do
Speaker 1: not get you know, past any kind of draft with
Speaker 1: that insurance assurances that there is some diversity. He both
Speaker 1: sexual diversity, cultural diversity, you know, it's all it would
Speaker 1: all be in there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, there's I think like say bad words in
Speaker 6: films obviously should continue to be said in films because
Speaker 6: bad people say bad words in real life, and we
Speaker 6: as people watch that and learn, and that's what art
Speaker 6: should be a reflection of real life. So those things
Speaker 6: should never be censored. And the thing about the all
Speaker 6: white thing is the you know, you're right. I was thinking, going,
Speaker 6: this is such a snapshot of white people in eighty
Speaker 6: eight and their concerns and what they're worried about and
Speaker 6: what their kids think. And then from a script perspective,
Speaker 6: you're missing out on this whole other just talking about
Speaker 6: making the film more dramatic, you're missing out on this
Speaker 6: all these other voices. Yeah, all these other voices, whether
Speaker 6: it be Asian, black, or you know whatever, Latino anything.
Speaker 6: You know, all America's very diverse. So in a way
Speaker 6: it was I think we you know, look back on
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and in a way it's kind of
Speaker 6: a bit more boring.
Speaker 1: Oh, as soon as you when you're writing something and
Speaker 1: then you can't you know, when you're casting.
Speaker 8: As soon as you.
Speaker 1: Diversify it, like you just feel it, you feel when
Speaker 1: you're writing it, it becomes so much more interesting, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily, you know, hoping for a Breakfast
Speaker 1: Cained reboot. I'm not a massive reboot fan, but no
Speaker 1: doubt if they were making this film today, the cast
Speaker 1: looks very different and it'd be better for it. But
Speaker 1: it's quite interesting because Molly Ringwold has kind of like
Speaker 1: addressed some of these concerns that she's had about the
Speaker 1: things that we are speaking about. And of course, the
Speaker 1: the scene with Bender under the table and he basically
Speaker 1: well sexually assaults her.
Speaker 6: You know, that stuff was that was crazy. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: believe how they treat that girl, and it is insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she feels like she writes, she write a
Speaker 1: really great article in the New Yorker, which I've got
Speaker 1: here and I read it a bit out in the sect,
Speaker 1: and she's just kind of John Hughes died, I think
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, and so Molly Ringwood was
Speaker 1: his muse. He kind of discovered Molly Ringwood and casts
Speaker 1: in the Breakfast Club off her head shot and then
Speaker 1: and then wrote sixteen Candles as I was getting, you know,
Speaker 1: prepping Breakfast Club. The studio loved sixteen Candles. They saw
Speaker 1: that as an absolute hit. Breakfast Club was a bit
Speaker 1: of a you know, they weren't completely sure back because
Speaker 1: it read more like a play than it did a movie.
Speaker 1: So they made sixteen Candles before they made Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: And then when they're making Breakfast Club, he writes pretty
Speaker 1: in Pink for Molly Ringwood, and then Molly Ringwood kind
Speaker 1: of didn't want to make any more teenage films. She
Speaker 1: wanted to come out, you know, grow up, and John
Speaker 1: Hughes kind of resented that. They kind of had a
Speaker 1: bit of a falling out, but I think eventually over
Speaker 1: time they kind of rectified things. But she's been trying
Speaker 1: to work out her place in all of this in
Speaker 1: light of the me Too, Harvey Weinstein stuff and and
Speaker 1: the bit she she got she got to. One of
Speaker 1: the things that interested me was was was because she's
Speaker 1: very you know, she's not she's not trying to dis
Speaker 1: own the films at all, like and and and what
Speaker 1: kind of brings her back to kind of like still
Speaker 1: being proud of the films is that the impact it
Speaker 1: had on people. Before these movies you had teenagers were
Speaker 1: basically like it was it was teenage films were like
Speaker 1: written by men for boys. You had Porky's and you
Speaker 1: know Animal House and John Hughes came through that National
Speaker 1: Lampoon's kind of school if you like. Uh. But so
Speaker 1: she she writes that she was stopped at a party
Speaker 1: by Emil Wilberkin, who is a gay African American friend
Speaker 1: of a friend, and she said she they said, Molly Ringwood,
Speaker 1: that movie The Breakfast Club saved saved them, and she
Speaker 1: said thanks, and she moved off.
Speaker 8: But then she emailed.
Speaker 1: She got their email and email them asking why she
Speaker 1: was curious as to why these film with five white
Speaker 1: people and no gay character in there at all white
Speaker 1: It meant so much. And this Emil Wilkin, who's a
Speaker 1: journalist who works for the Native Son which has devoted
Speaker 1: the empowering gay black men, said this, The Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: saved my life by showing me, a kid growing up
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati in the eighties, that there were other people
Speaker 1: like me who were struggling with their identities, feeling out
Speaker 1: of place in the social constructs of high school, and
Speaker 1: dealing with the challenges of family ideals and pressure. These
Speaker 1: kids were also fighting themselves and being other in a
Speaker 1: very traditional, white, heteronormative environment. The lack of diversity didn't
Speaker 1: bother me because the character and storylines were so beautifully human,
Speaker 1: perfectly imperfect and flawed. Now, I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's saying they're saying the journalist is saying, you know,
Speaker 1: diversity doesn't matter. Obviously it does. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we should'll be striving for diversity. But I think Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club prevails because it is quite human.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like I do, you know, I guess
Speaker 6: that's a really interesting perspective because he's taken so much
Speaker 6: out of it, and the color thing doesn't at all,
Speaker 6: The representation of gay people doesn't matter. He's taken all
Speaker 6: this extra you know, he's taken. He's taken the sort
Speaker 6: of I guess the point of the movie out of
Speaker 6: it anyway and stuff. So I mean, I suppose, you know,
Speaker 6: I guess you can overthink these things a bit. But
Speaker 6: I guess it's a it's a in a way, it's like,
Speaker 6: that's why we shouldn't cancel films.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the point you get out of that,
Speaker 1: I think Mollywood's article is and she doesn't mention cancel
Speaker 1: culture at all in that, And this has written a
Speaker 1: few years ago, so cancel culture probably has gathered momentum,
Speaker 1: maybe since this articles written. But I think that's right.
Speaker 1: I think we you know, there are still things to
Speaker 1: be taken out, like we know, and it just has
Speaker 1: to be part of it, of a conversation. And she says,
Speaker 1: the next generation will have their own opinion about breakfast club,
Speaker 1: and they should have their own opinion about breakfast club.
Speaker 1: And we should always be striving for diversity. But it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't render it meaningless.
Speaker 6: No, absolutely not. And that's a perfect example of why
Speaker 6: things shouldn't be canceled and why, as you say, there
Speaker 6: should be a conversation. And that's why these kinds of things,
Speaker 6: pieces of art, pieces of history or whatever should be
Speaker 6: left out in the open and the discussion should be
Speaker 6: had out in the open. So that I think that
Speaker 6: prejudice and stuff happens when things are tried to be suppressed.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that's yes, super interesting.
Speaker 1: Did you interesting when you're at school? Did you fit
Speaker 1: into any of these these groups? Were you Were you
Speaker 1: the jock?
Speaker 8: Were you the nerd?
Speaker 1: Were you the athlete? We had a basket case? Were
Speaker 1: you the criminal?
Speaker 6: I was selling pot? So I guess I guess I
Speaker 6: certainly wasn't the jock in the sense that I had
Speaker 6: to play upper grade, you see, and so they all
Speaker 6: hated me because I wasn't in part of their grade.
Speaker 6: So what do you do when you're a teenage kid?
Speaker 6: You hate whatever you know. And except when they wanted
Speaker 6: to buy pot off me, then they were quite fucking friendly.
Speaker 6: Different story then, isn't sorry about what happened, you know,
Speaker 6: the other day in the oval? But yeah, just twenty
Speaker 6: five is good. Yeah, so probably I probably relate more
Speaker 6: to the I definitely wasn't the criminal guy, but I
Speaker 6: would say I was a nerd whole pot.
Speaker 8: Well, I think that's what you kind of come to
Speaker 8: in the end.
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people who watch this movie
Speaker 1: try to figure out where they may fit in in
Speaker 1: this subgroups. But and you kind of get to the
Speaker 1: point where you kind of go no way to movie
Speaker 1: And yeah, for storytelling purposes, everyone's really clearly defined, but
Speaker 1: nobody is as clear And I think they learned that
Speaker 1: along along the way, Like there are things throughout where
Speaker 1: they learn that, you know, Bender is smarter than maybe
Speaker 1: even he gives himself credit for.
Speaker 7: Here's my impression of life at Big Briar's house.
Speaker 5: Son, your dad? How's your day, pal? Great dad? How's yours?
Speaker 1: Super? Say? Son? How'd you like to go fishing this weekend?
Speaker 5: Great dad? But I've got homework to do.
Speaker 9: That's all right, son, you can do it on the boat.
Speaker 5: Gee, dear, isn't our sun's swell? Yes, dear, isn't life swell? Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh all right? What about your family? Yeah?
Speaker 9: It's real easy, stupid.
Speaker 2: Worthless, no good god, damn free loaded son of a bitch, retarded,
Speaker 2: big mouth? No it all asshole jerk, you forgot, ugly,
Speaker 2: lazy and disrespectful?
Speaker 7: Shut up?
Speaker 1: Which who puts me?
Speaker 9: Turkey pipe pie?
Speaker 8: What about your dan?
Speaker 5: Fuck you?
Speaker 6: Well, what about you?
Speaker 5: Fuck you?
Speaker 3: Oh dad?
Speaker 5: What about you? Fuck?
Speaker 1: They're all capable of more than what they have been told,
Speaker 1: you know, they.
Speaker 6: Find character, Yeah, which is kind of the point of
Speaker 6: the letter at the end. You know, the thing the
Speaker 6: essay at the end is kind of like you can
Speaker 6: put us into these you know baskets, the crazy one,
Speaker 6: the sport one, the criminal but where you know that,
Speaker 6: And in a way it's interesting because they actually can
Speaker 6: find themselves in that. Yes, which is what you're saying,
Speaker 6: which is yeah, super interesting. Yeah, like the criminal guys.
Speaker 6: That's Bender, is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's obviously very smart. Yeah, and I think that's
Speaker 6: a beautiful, little nuanced It's done very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And Bender's really important to the whole story
Speaker 1: because he's kind of the engine of it. I feel
Speaker 1: like he's the one. Like without without Bender, they probably
Speaker 1: do all sit quietly for ninety minutes.
Speaker 6: It's still a good film, but it's not as interesting,
Speaker 6: just like an Andy Warhol piece. It's like, was that
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, just just four kids sit
Speaker 6: there quietly. I mean I was watching Bender, go on,
Speaker 6: what does that do? Thirty eight? Like it's not I
Speaker 6: was like, this thirty eight year old due his land
Speaker 6: is a pretty good gig.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's one of the kids. It's such a
Speaker 1: thing in American movies. I think they've gotten better at
Speaker 1: getting the ages of the acted closer to the characters
Speaker 1: these days. But I will take you through the ages
Speaker 1: if you like. John Nelson was the oldest at do
Speaker 1: you want to have a guess? Oh boy?
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, for I'm going to say he was twenty four,
Speaker 6: very close twenty five wow five.
Speaker 1: Emilio Estevez and Alie Sheeny were the same age.
Speaker 8: How old do you think they were? So that's the
Speaker 8: best case that no, twenty.
Speaker 1: Three, both twenty three, I thought that, Yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: and Molly Ringwood and Anthony Michael Hall were the same
Speaker 1: age as well.
Speaker 6: They were younger, surely they were younger twenty.
Speaker 1: Sixteen, sixteen, even younger. Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 6: You can see all that though, But I mean it
Speaker 6: didn't play up watching it, like you weren't going, wait
Speaker 6: a minute, that twenty five year old. You know, I
Speaker 6: didn't interfere with the enjoyment of it, but no, you
Speaker 6: could see that she looked younger to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which does make which does make those scenes
Speaker 1: where Bender's really kind of, you know, being aggressive towards
Speaker 1: her even more uncomfortable, because you do, even though you
Speaker 1: are thinking they're on the same year level basically, but
Speaker 1: you kind of do feel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's this old dude sixteen year old girl for?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, twenty five year olds should not be saying
Speaker 1: pandies in front of a sixteen year olds, whether they're
Speaker 1: filming or not.
Speaker 6: It really does add a dark, sinister edge to the
Speaker 6: film that I didn't think of before. Now that you
Speaker 6: say that.
Speaker 1: Did you do you agree with my summation in the
Speaker 1: introduction that this is this is kind of like a
Speaker 1: prison film. It's it's it's a it's a prison film
Speaker 1: by stealth.
Speaker 6: It's a brilliant observation. Yeah. I didn't think of it.
Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't think of that. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 6: absolutely is a prison film. Yeah, and and done with
Speaker 6: so much fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know they're in a high school, so and you've
Speaker 6: got the warden is not he's totally ineffective and absolutely impotent,
Speaker 6: which is which is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the warden, you know, the principle fature, but
Speaker 1: he is playing awarden basically, I mean he actual he
Speaker 1: puts Bender in solitary confinement, like yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: there are little moments where they're running around the corrilors
Speaker 1: and they come and there's basically a cage and there's
Speaker 1: little things what they're whistling, you know, the theme from
Speaker 1: the Bridge over the River KOI.
Speaker 8: There's some lovely touches.
Speaker 1: What surprised me watching this film last night, which I
Speaker 1: don't even think I felt when I watched it a
Speaker 1: few years ago with my kids, was I actually in
Speaker 1: the first half of the film. I actually had empathy
Speaker 1: for Vernon that the vice principal actually weirdly felt. And
Speaker 1: the moment that was was when he kind of left
Speaker 1: after you know, don't message the bull, you'll get the horns.
Speaker 1: When he gives Bender, you know, seven or eight detentions,
Speaker 1: he leaves and he has this kind of like sigh
Speaker 1: of like.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I thought that was brilliant, and so yeah,
Speaker 6: because it just gave him dimension, like he's not really
Speaker 6: enjoying this and like you say, that's what I picked
Speaker 6: up too. He's putting up so much. He's been putting
Speaker 6: up such a facade and acting this role over the
Speaker 6: top because it deep down and the janitor kind of
Speaker 6: touches on this is that he's probably deeply sad and
Speaker 6: doesn't really enjoy his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean does he want to be he's in
Speaker 1: intention too, like he doesn't want to be here exactly,
Speaker 1: baby sitting on a Saturday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, totally. And so where's the cool jacket? And you know,
Speaker 6: thanks himself? Pretty cool because his life sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think? What do you think of
Speaker 1: that scene where this you know, we'll call it soldier.
Speaker 1: You can find where he takes Bender into that broom closet.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, someday, when you're out of here and you've
Speaker 3: forgotten all about this place and they've forgotten all about you,
Speaker 3: and you're wrapped up in your own pathetic life, I'm
Speaker 3: going to be there, that's right, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: kick the living shit out you.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm going to knock your dick in a dirt. You're
Speaker 3: a lion sack of shit, and everybody knows it.
Speaker 9: Oh you're a tough.
Speaker 3: Get on your feet, pal, Let's find out how tough
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: I want to know right now, how tough you are.
Speaker 1: Come on, I'll give you the first punch.
Speaker 3: Let's go, come on right here, just take the first shot.
Speaker 1: Please, I'm begging you.
Speaker 5: Take a shot right here. Come on, just take one shot.
Speaker 1: That's all they need, just one swing. Like it felt
Speaker 1: to me, the bender was it was the first time
Speaker 1: you saw him, and that was the one time where
Speaker 1: he looked like a kid, like he didn't look like
Speaker 1: the older kid, like the twenty six, twenty five year old.
Speaker 1: He actually looked like a kid, and he actually looked
Speaker 1: a bit scared.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's you can still see his shadow, and shit though,
Speaker 6: it's still like this old adude shouldn't be picking on
Speaker 6: this to this little bit less older dude, I don't think.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: I love that. I love that bit because to me,
Speaker 6: the sad case and it is the is the teacher. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, and I thought it was brilliant. I love that,
Speaker 6: you know, because it's just like like the kid, like
Speaker 6: you say, yes, absolutely vulnerable and we see him finally
Speaker 6: step back, but then you're just like this dude, like
Speaker 6: you're just bullying a kid in a closet. It's insane.
Speaker 6: It's so pathetic. It's the most pathetic thing that guy,
Speaker 6: the teacher does the entire time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is the point where if you had
Speaker 1: any empathy, like and like I said, growing up, I
Speaker 1: never had any empathy for the teacher.
Speaker 6: He was he's the villain, like yeah, two dimensional villain.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you see that little moment that we spoke
Speaker 1: of coming out, and I felt like that when I've
Speaker 1: when I've yelled at my kids, you know, like when
Speaker 1: i've you know, you know, I've punished him for some reason.
Speaker 8: Now you're ground or.
Speaker 1: You're not, you know, you're you're off your PlayStation and
Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and you go bloody. How did
Speaker 1: n't feel good?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and now you realize that it's insane that you've
Speaker 6: just yelled at a three year old or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, and now I have to police this now.
Speaker 1: Like what he's done. He's connected himself with Bender for
Speaker 1: the next seven or eight weekends.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like he's like perpetually keeping
Speaker 6: the nightmare of his life rolling. Yeah, and you're right,
Speaker 6: it's an interesting point. We do see our high school
Speaker 6: teachers and stuff as two dimensional bad guys. And do
Speaker 6: you remember times in your life in high school where
Speaker 6: you'd see them living a normal life?
Speaker 1: Oh whatever, you saw your teacher down to the shops
Speaker 1: was on and the weirdest things.
Speaker 6: Looking so weird. I remember getting so drunk once on
Speaker 6: Vodka wine used to be a thing in to Wombo.
Speaker 6: It was like a cheap wine that was vodka as well,
Speaker 6: poor mama. And yeah, I was just stumbling down the
Speaker 6: main street of to Woombo with my friends and just
Speaker 6: inside the window was my economics teacher having dinner on
Speaker 6: a date. And I was just like, mister fucking Munron
Speaker 6: just through the window. Fuck yeah, and he's like hello,
Speaker 6: and I'm just like swaying around, can go get it? Yeah,
Speaker 6: just would have been the world just like why is
Speaker 6: there like a kid with no shoes on, drunk wandering
Speaker 6: the street main street of Tawoomba, like you know, but
Speaker 6: none of that countered because it was out of school,
Speaker 6: so it was just like, oh yeah, there's young.
Speaker 1: Damien either weird experienced where we our year level was
Speaker 1: playing in at the time.
Speaker 8: It's called the Herald sun Shield for football, where it.
Speaker 1: Was like the all of the private schools would play
Speaker 1: off for the Herald and the AFL Football and you'd
Speaker 1: play at the MCG. And we had a very you
Speaker 1: know and before one of the senior games, before a
Speaker 1: Collingwood Essenon game which had you know, like ninety thousand
Speaker 1: people there, and it was like the you know, the
Speaker 1: game the curtain raiser before that, and and I didn't
Speaker 1: make the team, but I got to go on the
Speaker 1: bus because I was kind of on the edge of
Speaker 1: maybe making the team, and I was just kind of
Speaker 1: there for morale.
Speaker 8: I was, you know, unsurprisingly you know, the class comedian.
Speaker 1: And and we won like we won we actually they
Speaker 1: wanted it easily, and we all got invited back to
Speaker 1: one of the teachers place, you know, for beers, and
Speaker 1: so this teacher kind of thought he has been pretty
Speaker 1: cool and yeah, probably you know in our eyes he
Speaker 1: was inviting us back and having beach with other teachers.
Speaker 1: What yeah, seventeen seventeen Wow this teachers.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But then the teacher said we were together through
Speaker 1: the bottle shot and the teacher said, what do you want?
Speaker 1: Cans or tinnies? And we're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Like, they just have the same thing, the same fucking thing.
Speaker 6: Mate's so weird moment when you realize they're just fucking losers.
Speaker 6: You like when you realize your parents are actual parents
Speaker 6: like people, you're just like, oh, you're just a fucking loser.
Speaker 6: So in the movie, it's that moment where the music
Speaker 6: comes in and slowly pans in on the you know,
Speaker 6: the character's face when they're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's when I realized, yeah, yeah, and that's he Also
Speaker 1: one of his favorite expressions was you're skating on thin water,
Speaker 1: which was, you know, kind of frames the kind of
Speaker 1: guy he was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, good teacher, good teacher.
Speaker 1: How good is.
Speaker 8: Anthony Michael Hall in this as Brian?
Speaker 1: Like its fat? Like, particularly in that first half, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's great in the second half when the therapy session
Speaker 1: kind of kicks off. But but his ability to spike
Speaker 1: moments with jokes, you know, we're not even jokes, observations
Speaker 1: that are funny and lines that are funny.
Speaker 8: So he's Brian. So he's the nerd, all right.
Speaker 6: And he went on to have a big acting career.
Speaker 5: Did he?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he was.
Speaker 1: He also was very big in the John Hughes world
Speaker 1: and like would play famously rusty in The National Lampoon's Vacation.
Speaker 1: But he was also yeah, he was also in sixteen
Speaker 1: Candles and John Hughes.
Speaker 6: Didn't do that, you know, stand by me? Did he?
Speaker 1: Or no, No, it's like one of his films. That's
Speaker 1: Rob Brnner.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right right right, yeah.
Speaker 8: But yeah, did you like Did you like Brian?
Speaker 1: I just loved, you know, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that I just loved that he is the fake ID.
Speaker 1: He was sixty eight, so good vote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, bender's age. Yeah. I thought he did a
Speaker 6: brilliant job. I agree with you. I think his character
Speaker 6: was maybe a little bit less character cure, like, I mean,
Speaker 6: that's what was showing the age a little bit of
Speaker 6: the film in the sense that the characters were nuanced characterures. Yeah,
Speaker 6: whereas a character these days would be you know, it's
Speaker 6: just more nuanced and complicated just because people aren't pigeonhole
Speaker 6: like that anymore, just in their identities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't make sense, it does, and it felt
Speaker 1: like it felt like I think Anthony Marcaelehall's performance is
Speaker 1: the most natural.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure, which.
Speaker 1: Is quite amazing because he's the youngest there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Molly Wing was also sixteen, but yeah, he felt like
Speaker 1: the most natural.
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd agree with that. Yeah, I think it was
Speaker 6: more natural. And it took me, like it took me
Speaker 6: a bit to realize he's the nerd kind of thing.
Speaker 6: Like I got that he was. That was what he
Speaker 6: was meant to be in the character. Sure thing of it,
Speaker 6: but his performance of it, it wasn't. I mean, let's
Speaker 6: not forget the movie nerds, like, you know, the portrayal
Speaker 6: of nerds and that are just fucking like well.
Speaker 8: Like I don't don't revenge the Nerds?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Mean you know yeah, oh yeah, so compared to that,
Speaker 6: it was quite nuanced.
Speaker 1: Yes, he didn't have glasses that they didn't take the
Speaker 1: easy option exactly what I'm saying. They set the characters
Speaker 1: I think really well though, Like when they arrive, you
Speaker 1: get a very good glimpse as to what the family
Speaker 1: dynamic might be. You have Molly Ringwell, the princess, you
Speaker 1: know who we've learned who missed because she wax school
Speaker 1: to go shopping. Then we go to Brian. We see
Speaker 1: the pressure to study, you know, the mums saying who's
Speaker 1: actually here his real mum and real younger sister in
Speaker 1: real life. And then we have yeah, Emily Westevez rock
Speaker 1: up Andy and the pressure to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a boys we boys.
Speaker 8: Kind of vibe, yeah going on there.
Speaker 1: Alie Sheedy as Allison, you know, gets out, goes down
Speaker 1: to kind of like maybe you know, give hemma, I
Speaker 1: forget who was driving? Mom and dad a kiss and
Speaker 1: they just drive off and you have Bender just walking
Speaker 1: by by him.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love the touch that Benders because you have the
Speaker 6: drop off and the pick up. Yeah, and it's a
Speaker 6: very contrived device in the film, but I like it though,
Speaker 6: Like I was like, okay, you've just gone bang like
Speaker 6: drop off, set up, drop off, set up. You know
Speaker 6: that it's very unnaturalistic. I think it's really really I
Speaker 6: really liked it. I like that kind of Tarantino does
Speaker 6: a lot of that. We're just like bang here it
Speaker 6: is bang. Like he doesn't try and blend it in
Speaker 6: with like he just gets the information. Yeah, do you
Speaker 6: know what I mean? Like he just goes here's the information.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think when you're writing that, I feel
Speaker 1: like astraying movies don't do that. Perhaps enough, they're scared.
Speaker 6: They're scared, they're scared to take the risk. I think, yeah,
Speaker 6: every industry we're.
Speaker 1: In, even though when you watch it it feels like
Speaker 1: a safe choice. So it does feel like like, of
Speaker 1: course this is hey, this is what an economical way
Speaker 1: to set up your characters, you know by doing this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great point you make because yeah, when
Speaker 6: you think of Australian films, you just think of naturalism.
Speaker 6: Yeah don't you really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Absolutely, where there's no one's style.
Speaker 6: Has anyone ever done a stylized film as an Australian director,
Speaker 6: that's as an Australian film.
Speaker 1: I reckon that that there would be.
Speaker 8: But I can cascele crocodile dundee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know, yasny podcast at gmail dot com
Speaker 1: if you can. Yeah, what's the most stylized Australian film
Speaker 1: you think you see? Because there's moments all the way
Speaker 1: through this, even the fact that when Bender's crawling through
Speaker 1: the air vent he starts telling a joke. He sets
Speaker 1: up a joke which is you know what, why is
Speaker 1: he Why is he telling a joke to nobody?
Speaker 6: Insane moments in it. Yeah, they're just trashing this library.
Speaker 6: It's just ab third. Yeah that was an Australian film.
Speaker 6: Be like, oh no, I don't touch that. Sorry, I
Speaker 6: won't And they just sit down.
Speaker 8: Milo ESBZ and he smokes the joint which correct me
Speaker 8: if I'm wrong, is a relaxant, and then gets so
Speaker 8: fired up he yells so loud that it breaks the glass.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Also, the amount of weed he
Speaker 6: has is like this crazy, Like it's like this much.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I grab my weed. It's like, well, we
Speaker 6: carry half an ounce of weed. The school is a
Speaker 6: lot in weed smoking terms.
Speaker 1: I think I did.
Speaker 6: You'd probably have a little bag like this.
Speaker 1: I did laugh a lot when he said the weed
Speaker 1: is in Johnson's underwear. That that actually made me laugh
Speaker 1: out loud again last night and I've seen this film
Speaker 1: probably twenty times.
Speaker 6: The weed is in Johnson's underwear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what were because yeah, he says Vernon accused him.
Speaker 1: He's pot where his potty is?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 8: And he says it won't sir, because it's in Johnson's underwear.
Speaker 6: That's right. Yeah, And it's so absurd that no one
Speaker 6: but like doesn't take it seriously. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also the other part where they John Hughes is clever
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, help with some character development
Speaker 1: is the lunches. The lunches are great, again just serving
Speaker 1: to show what where his home life is. I mean
Speaker 1: the sushi. And you don't know how weird sushi was
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five, Like it really was so exotic
Speaker 1: and so weird. What you're eating raw fish? I'm not
Speaker 1: sure we've actually Molly Ringwild's character Claire was refrigerating this fish.
Speaker 1: You know it probably it's probably danger dangerous way of
Speaker 1: eating sushi, just having your handbag and then bring it out.
Speaker 6: Lunch to mention the mercury in the fish.
Speaker 8: She probably wasn't.
Speaker 6: Thinking about that there might be mercury in it. But anyway, Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're totally right. That's a great pick up. Yeah I
Speaker 6: thought that too. I'm like, ohoh soush. The crazy and shit.
Speaker 6: And again it's that it's that thing of like being
Speaker 6: an Australian, you know, watching the American and it's like, ah,
Speaker 6: you know, the lunches and stuff, and they're all just
Speaker 6: like bags and just whereas we'd have all have the
Speaker 6: same kind of lunchboxes and you had a lunch box
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean. It just seemed like
Speaker 6: they just seem to have so much more freedom, which
Speaker 6: I guess is embedded in that ideological, the ideology of America,
Speaker 6: which is the super individualism. You know, like they had
Speaker 6: their own uniforms, they dress how they like, they sort
Speaker 6: of bring their own lunches and that's tailored to who
Speaker 6: they are and stuff, whereas in Australia we grow up
Speaker 6: with a lot more like your dress like this, you
Speaker 6: all dress the same, you're you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's kind of it's kind of ironic, isn't it,
Speaker 1: Because there is a super like concentration and focus on
Speaker 1: the individual in America, and you know, the individual's personal
Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties. Yeah, there seems to be so much
Speaker 1: conformity in America, like.
Speaker 6: That old South Park joke of the goths. You know,
Speaker 6: they're like, what is it that they're all sit around
Speaker 6: and they're like, we're just trying not to conform and
Speaker 6: they're all the same as in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't know anyone really in Australia. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's the same in America. Again, this is a movie,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, no, there's enough American movies that
Speaker 1: seemed to reflect this, you think that where they smoke
Speaker 1: this fire. But in Australia, I just don't know anyone
Speaker 1: who conformed or fitted in so neatly to any of
Speaker 1: these subsets.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's a very interesting point, isn't it. Yeah. America seems
Speaker 6: to have that kind of thing where people are something
Speaker 6: and they like being I'm that I'm the jock, yeah,
Speaker 6: and I'm glad and I'm proud and I'm In Australia
Speaker 6: it was again a lot more uniformed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like jocks would hang out with nerds and and
Speaker 1: you know, it just wasn't as Oh no, it's segregated.
Speaker 6: Like you couldn't have a movie like Revenge of the
Speaker 6: Nerds in Australia. No, because everyone would be like, what what.
Speaker 8: The nerds are now running the world.
Speaker 6: And yeah, yeah, true, all in Chilicon Valley.
Speaker 8: All coming up with vaccines.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks nerds.
Speaker 1: I mean the Lockers bender has a guillotine in his locker,
Speaker 1: which again.
Speaker 6: Like growing up, you're just like man the locker and
Speaker 6: the locker culture and how coo everyne had different crazy
Speaker 6: things in their locker And every American movie we had
Speaker 6: port lock Did you have port like bag rack?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we bag racks like basically big pigeonholes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was ship. I wanted a locker with a combination.
Speaker 6: And and he's got half an ounce of weed in
Speaker 6: there and they're just smoking it, and the and the
Speaker 6: teacher knows.
Speaker 1: It's like what yeah, I mean, I mean Vernon really
Speaker 1: does just stop checking on them after a while, doesn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, He's like, you know, we know you're smoking dope.
Speaker 6: At one point, it's like, fuck me, this this school's off.
Speaker 6: The one kid brings the good school a gun and
Speaker 6: the other dude's got half an ounce of weed and
Speaker 6: he's got a guillotine, and you know, like it's pretty
Speaker 6: diverse compared to Australia.
Speaker 1: I did, like Carl there's a nice touch of Carl
Speaker 1: the cleaner where I'm not sure if you picked it up.
Speaker 1: I certainly hadn't until last night. But he's actually won
Speaker 1: I think Student of the Year. There's a frame of him,
Speaker 1: a fully had younger fudo of him, and which is
Speaker 1: kind of great. It's just really cool that they have
Speaker 1: done that as a you know, and now he's he
Speaker 1: hasn't gone anywhere, like he's still at the school and
Speaker 1: he's the cleaner.
Speaker 6: It's such a great little detail that he's like I
Speaker 6: love that about his character, where his character goes, oh
Speaker 6: you're laughing at me. Well, I've got keys to all
Speaker 6: your lockers, I see all the papers. I know I'm
Speaker 6: actually the king of this place. Yeah, it's like king
Speaker 6: of the shitty. He's a bit like the teacher in
Speaker 6: that respect. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're in charge
Speaker 6: of this weird, pathetic kingdom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: Like it's actually so much more pathetic that he is like, oh, no,
Speaker 6: you laughing at me and doesn't go like, oh, some
Speaker 6: people need to work real jobs, and instead he goes
Speaker 6: the path of oh, I'm actually the coolest.
Speaker 1: But it does feel to me that he is more
Speaker 1: at ease at his where he is, you know, like
Speaker 1: he's probably you know, I take your point that he's
Speaker 1: a bit kind of like, no, hang on, I'm cooler
Speaker 1: than you. I'm cooler than you think. But I feel
Speaker 1: like he gets the kids more than say Vernon. Vernon
Speaker 1: still feels like he should probably be principal. Like the
Speaker 1: fact that made him vice principle is a nice touch.
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, yeah, you're totally right. The janitors like whatever, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know. And and there's way more secure than Vernon, Yeah,
Speaker 6: way more secure. And he plays on that a bit
Speaker 6: when he catches him in the basement going through the files.
Speaker 1: And stuff, speaking of how far we've come. There's he's
Speaker 1: going through the files and I think he points out
Speaker 1: that one of the teachers has a slight mental health
Speaker 1: issue that like he's obviously planning on them, like using
Speaker 1: that as collateral. Like it's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: Well, the interesting thing I thought of that was like
Speaker 6: mental illness back then was this crazy fringe thing, like
Speaker 6: someone who was mentally ill was like what, like are
Speaker 6: they wearing a trench coat and living under a bridge?
Speaker 6: And now it's just like everybody's mentally ill like that,
Speaker 6: you know, nobody's ashamed to say their mental health problems
Speaker 6: and stuff, and it's just such a sign of the
Speaker 6: times that he was like, oh, a little bit mentally ill,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, crazy?
Speaker 1: Did you What did you think? Because obviously the third
Speaker 1: act is mainly it becomes like a therapy session for everyone.
Speaker 1: What did you think? We briefly about the Andy's confession.
Speaker 1: I think he kicks things off because we already know
Speaker 1: why Claire's in there because.
Speaker 8: She skipped school.
Speaker 1: We know. I think we know why Bender's there, and
Speaker 1: we learned that Allison's there because he's got nothing better
Speaker 1: to do, which is a great tag of that line.
Speaker 1: But the yeah, I'm in two minds about Andy's confession
Speaker 1: about taping Larry's buns together.
Speaker 6: It seems weird.
Speaker 1: It is weird, weird. I think it's saved. I think
Speaker 1: it works because I think if we learned that information
Speaker 1: early on, we kind of don't like Andy, you know,
Speaker 1: and some people might like him, and somebody obviously might not.
Speaker 1: But I quite like him because he defends Claire earlier
Speaker 1: as well, he defends Brian. He's kind of like, this
Speaker 1: is jock jock. Yeah, so he's kind of trying to
Speaker 1: defend everyone. He knows there's a loose cannon here and
Speaker 1: he sees his role to try to defender. So there's
Speaker 1: I feel like you come up on board with him,
Speaker 1: and then you learned this kind of you know, detail,
Speaker 1: which is not you know, it's bullying. You know it's
Speaker 1: not it's not a cool thing. The one thing that
Speaker 1: kind of always it did always get me and I
Speaker 1: remember you really kind of hitting me was his realization
Speaker 1: and his empathy for the idea that Larry would have
Speaker 1: to go home and tell his parents that that had happened,
Speaker 1: and he's his ability to connect with that kind of
Speaker 1: how how tragic that is that he put him in
Speaker 1: that situation.
Speaker 6: It's a brilliant line he rides because I mean, it's
Speaker 6: almost laughable that he's in attention for taping together ass checks.
Speaker 6: But there's just a twist like it's going along and
Speaker 6: it could go to joke or where it ended up
Speaker 6: more serious. And there's a part he says, I ripped
Speaker 6: off the hair and some skin came to yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's when I went, oh, that was like the And
Speaker 6: then like I think he does a really good job
Speaker 6: of delivering it really seriously. But it's it's but also
Speaker 6: it's the dumbest thing. Yeah, but you definitely leave going
Speaker 6: oh fuck.
Speaker 8: Yeah that poor kid.
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I think that the skin
Speaker 1: it's an important detail because it really takes you in.
Speaker 8: It stops it.
Speaker 1: From being funny. I mean, it's it's probably not funny
Speaker 1: even before he gets to that bit, but it really
Speaker 1: does take you into that moment, agoing and putting you
Speaker 1: in that moment and in that Larry's Who character we
Speaker 1: never see and never hear of again, but going oh
Speaker 1: fuck that is that is horrendous. And then the idea
Speaker 1: of you know, like that I remember I've always had
Speaker 1: like this empathy and like I've always thought about like
Speaker 1: kids going to have to go home and say this
Speaker 1: happened to me at school, you know, or you know,
Speaker 1: I've almost empathized with the parents even from an early age.
Speaker 1: And watching it last night, I wonder if this actually
Speaker 1: played a part. This planted this in my head, this
Speaker 1: idea that you know, kids having to go home and
Speaker 1: tell their parents that being either bullied at school or
Speaker 1: is just like such a horrendous thought to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it really shows that character's empathy that
Speaker 6: the jock guy, because and that makes us so attached
Speaker 6: to him, and yeah, you're totally right. Like I think
Speaker 6: he says something like he's breaking down and he's like,
Speaker 6: how would you even explain that? And and I think
Speaker 6: you're right with the skin thing is strangely now, I
Speaker 6: think about it crucial because if it had just ripped
Speaker 6: a bit of hair off, it would just be laughable. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like he's got a bit of his ass cheek. That's
Speaker 6: just like, yeah, people be like that kind of look funny,
Speaker 6: you know. But the fact that he's actually kind of
Speaker 6: injured and goes back and has to teller, like it
Speaker 6: leaves that visceral memory and then you're visualizing him having
Speaker 6: to tell his parents why he's hurt or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it adds It adds weight to it and
Speaker 6: also makes you really I think the jock character is
Speaker 6: the most likable and perhaps you're most attached to as
Speaker 6: a hero figure. I think yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the other detail I think it is really
Speaker 1: nice in there is that Brian knows who Larry is.
Speaker 1: He's in his like friendship circle at least, or he
Speaker 1: is in his you know, per circle. And I think
Speaker 1: I think there's a because Brian gets quite upset in
Speaker 1: this scene, and I think he's probably thinking this could
Speaker 1: have so easily been me, like if I like I am.
Speaker 1: And then he asked the question about about will we
Speaker 1: be friends on Monday? In fact, we might actually play
Speaker 1: that scene now when Brian wants to know you know,
Speaker 1: sure we're all friends now, but what happens on Monday?
Speaker 5: What is going to happen on some Monday and we're
Speaker 5: all together again? I can see you guys my friends?
Speaker 2: Wrong?
Speaker 5: Am I?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: You what happens? Are we so friends?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 5: For friends? Now? That is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You want the truth?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I want the truth. I don't think so with all
Speaker 5: of us are just.
Speaker 7: All of you?
Speaker 5: It's a real nice attitude.
Speaker 4: Oh be honest, Andy, if Brian came walking up to
Speaker 4: you in the holland Monday, what would you do? I mean,
Speaker 4: picture this year there with all the sports, you know
Speaker 4: exactly what you do. You'd say hi to him and
Speaker 4: when he left he cut them all up to your friends.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't think that you really liked him?
Speaker 7: No way?
Speaker 3: Kay? What if I came up to you same exact thing?
Speaker 1: You are a bitch?
Speaker 4: Why? Because I'm telling the truth? That makes me a
Speaker 4: bitch no.
Speaker 2: Because you know how shitty that is to do to someone,
Speaker 2: and you don't got the balls.
Speaker 9: Just stand up for your friends and tell them that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna like who you want to lie.
Speaker 4: Okay, what about you, you hypocrite? What do you take
Speaker 4: Alison to one of your heavy metal vomit parties or
Speaker 4: take Brian out of the parking lot at lunch? You
Speaker 4: get higher? What about Andy? For that matter?
Speaker 5: What about me?
Speaker 4: What would your friends say if we were walking down
Speaker 4: the hall together? Did laugh their asses off? And you
Speaker 4: probably tell them that you were doing it with me,
Speaker 4: so they forgive you for being seen with me.
Speaker 5: Don't you ever.
Speaker 1: Talk about my friends. You don't know any of my friends, You.
Speaker 2: Don't look at any of my friends, and you certainly
Speaker 2: wouldn't condescend just speak to any of my friends. So
Speaker 2: you get stripped to the things that you know shopping now,
Speaker 2: polish your father's BMW and your poor rich trunk mother
Speaker 2: in the Caribbean. And as far as being concerned about
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen.
Speaker 9: When you and I walked down the.
Speaker 2: Hallways to school, you can forget it because it's never
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 9: Just bury your head in the.
Speaker 2: Sand and wait for your fucking prom I hate you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good, yea.
Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting, there's a feeling interesting things happening there,
Speaker 1: even with the question that Brian ass will we be
Speaker 1: friends on Monday. When Carl the janitor comes in earlier
Speaker 1: and he actually recognized he knows Brian and he says
Speaker 1: hi to Brian, Brian kind of puts his head down
Speaker 1: and kind of like doesn't actually.
Speaker 6: You know, you know, a bit of shame that he knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he knows the janitor. So it's there's some
Speaker 1: hypocritical color of behavior going on here from Brian. But
Speaker 1: I mean the vitriol spewing from Bender towards Claire is
Speaker 1: is quite confronting. From a behind the scenes kind of element,
Speaker 1: Judd Nelson apparently would stay in character and often direct
Speaker 1: some of his stuff to Molly Ringwood, to the point
Speaker 1: where John Hughes nearly had him fired, and the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast went, including Molly Ringwood, went to him
Speaker 1: and said, no, no, it's fine, You're like, let him stay.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a really good actor and it's
Speaker 1: working and it's good for the movie and all that.
Speaker 6: But how interesting.
Speaker 1: But after this film, John Hugh said, I'm never working
Speaker 1: with Judd Nelson again because the idea was supposed to
Speaker 1: be that every ten years they're going to make a
Speaker 1: sequel to see the catch up with these these The
Speaker 1: script was really fascinating, but he this decided he didn't
Speaker 1: want to work with John Nelson again. But with that said, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty it's a pretty full on, full on scene.
Speaker 6: That to me, that that scene, to me, is the
Speaker 6: most universal and human kind of part of the that
Speaker 6: that scene for me is the relatable bit that really
Speaker 6: leaves the high school politics and is so relatable to
Speaker 6: anyone in life because there is that thing of like
Speaker 6: the secret like people that you meet and are friends
Speaker 6: with and then how that's perceived by the outside world
Speaker 6: and other people that you know. Yeah, it's so it's
Speaker 6: so relatable, especially in comedy, you know. And yeah, I
Speaker 6: think it's just just the perfect beat before the before
Speaker 6: the ending, and and it it kind of ties the
Speaker 6: whole film together thematically, and to me, that's like that's
Speaker 6: where it sort of leaves the the kids world and
Speaker 6: enters the adult world a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, yeah, I think absolutely right,
Speaker 1: And then we get to the end and they what
Speaker 1: do you think of Brian's again a really lovely performance
Speaker 1: Manthony Michael Hall. But the he's supposed to make this
Speaker 1: this elephant kind of lamp. Oh yeah for whatever class
Speaker 1: that is, yeah, trade class and.
Speaker 6: He brings a gun to school. I mean, fuck, how
Speaker 6: American is that? I know, you know, that's like the
Speaker 6: that's that was the craziest thing again about being an
Speaker 6: Australian kid and looking at American cultures. It's just this
Speaker 6: element of guns, like in films often would end up
Speaker 6: with a gun or there'd be a gun somewhere and
Speaker 6: they'd pick it up and yeah, you'd have to go
Speaker 6: you had to go to a farm or something to
Speaker 6: shoot a gun in Australia like yeah, I mean this
Speaker 6: really it is.
Speaker 1: Continues to be staggering. The idea that you can just
Speaker 1: have that easy in access to any kind of firearm
Speaker 1: in Australia, Like it just yeah, it's just the idea
Speaker 1: of having one in the house in Australia is mind boggling.
Speaker 6: Well, especially at school. It's something that really stuck with
Speaker 6: me watching American stuff growing up like that where it's
Speaker 6: just like there could be a gun in someone's locker
Speaker 6: was just the most terrifying mix of innocence and violence
Speaker 6: that you sort of picked up on growing up. I
Speaker 6: find for me anyway, just stuck in my head that idea.
Speaker 6: It's just crazy to me. Yeah, and so terrifying. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean the lamp thing again, it's that bordering on
Speaker 6: silly but just twisted just enough to be dramatic and real. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because I guess they are kids issues. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 6: they're never going to be like, well, I didn't get
Speaker 6: the executive report to the CEO in time, and it
Speaker 6: is going to be shipped like it's an elephant lamp
Speaker 6: and I taped the guy's ass cheeks together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And then we get to the end and
Speaker 1: there's some hooking up going on. What what did you think?
Speaker 1: And I think Molly Ringwood kind of makes this point
Speaker 1: that one of her kind of slide issues is that
Speaker 1: the behavior shown by Bended towards Claire is not There's
Speaker 1: a lot of yelling, abuse, and she still he still
Speaker 1: ends up with the girl.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, I mean that's a fine line, isn't it,
Speaker 6: Because at that that that age, there is lots of
Speaker 6: as they call it now, nagging and stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: this kind of you know, you tease them and stuff,
Speaker 6: and that shows that you liked them was the oldest
Speaker 6: thing in the book. As growing up as a kid,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, so there's always gonna be element of that.
Speaker 6: But I did find his character like just took that
Speaker 6: way too far and repetitively, and there's no relief from it.
Speaker 6: There's barely any indication that she's interested. Maybe a look
Speaker 6: or here or two there. And so to me it
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, of course, high school kids are going
Speaker 6: to tease girls, and girls are going to tease boys
Speaker 6: because they like them. But to me, it did just
Speaker 6: seem to go too far as a as a character thing,
Speaker 6: a bit that she would he's actually secretly like likes him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I say it never bothered me growing up,
Speaker 1: because you know, you know, I'm not really you know,
Speaker 1: when when I was, you know, twelve, I wasn't reading
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 8: Was like you said, it was like you know.
Speaker 1: The the you know, the the bad boy in movies.
Speaker 1: It seemed to happen a lot, you know, and you
Speaker 1: just never I never thought about it too much. But yeah,
Speaker 1: watching it again last week and ago, Yeah, why does
Speaker 1: Claire go for me?
Speaker 8: Is it just because he's the bad boy.
Speaker 1: The only other way I can see it kind of
Speaker 1: working in my mind is that she liked him from
Speaker 1: the start, like she just had a thing for him.
Speaker 1: And I have heard people say that she was a thing,
Speaker 1: like she went in with kind of a feeling of like,
Speaker 1: this guy is kind of hot and you know, and
Speaker 1: and rebellious, which you know, I might like because my
Speaker 1: parents are, you know, look this way.
Speaker 6: And I think I think it's it's definitely plausible that
Speaker 6: she likes him. And they have that a little moment
Speaker 6: when they're stoned and they're playing with her makeup and stuff,
Speaker 6: and she's a bit curious about why he has so
Speaker 6: many girlfriends and so on and how he treats them
Speaker 6: and stuff. But yeah, it's just a fraction. It just
Speaker 6: is a fraction over the top from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And then you have Andy and Allison getting a getting
Speaker 8: together in front of.
Speaker 6: The parents that struck me as so weird. Like again,
Speaker 6: it's that thing we were talking about with just the
Speaker 6: the just take the easy option, what they just like
Speaker 6: the dad just does I mean, I was watching it
Speaker 6: because he makes out the jock makes out with the
Speaker 6: weirdo and just does it in front of all the parents.
Speaker 6: It's just crazy, like you drop your kid off to
Speaker 6: detention and he walks out with a girl who looks
Speaker 6: completely different it could be a different woman and then
Speaker 6: just makes out with her and it's like see her.
Speaker 6: It's like good, Like it's insane. And I was like please.
Speaker 6: You can see the dad and the driver's seat watching it,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, please, look like it's crazy if you
Speaker 6: don't go, and he does thankfully. I mean it's sort
Speaker 6: of salvage.
Speaker 1: Is that a bit?
Speaker 6: But again, it's that American thing of just like yeah,
Speaker 6: the happy ending, the thing, the bows tied. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: in front of the parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh well, yeah, this works. This works. Discus the
Speaker 1: message across. We haven't chatted out Allison, that's before we
Speaker 1: wrap up, but we did. You like Allison. She doesn't
Speaker 1: speak for the you know, for the first half of
Speaker 1: the film, played by Ali Sheeny.
Speaker 8: What were your thoughts on Allison?
Speaker 6: Her behavior is a little characture, over the top crazy,
Speaker 6: you know, at the start, and I guess there could
Speaker 6: have been more nuanced to that. But as she slowly
Speaker 6: starts talking and stuff, and that whole progression is I
Speaker 6: think really good, and I think it's believable and stuff.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if there was a credible connection
Speaker 6: like there was with the bully and the girl. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was more credible than him hooking up with yeah,
Speaker 6: because basically it's totally not on. And then she gets
Speaker 6: her makeup done a bit and comes out and he's like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I'm in love with you. That's right. It's not quite as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't can kind of we haven't really seen
Speaker 1: any kind of like like Bender and Claire have had
Speaker 1: like a lot to do with each other during this.
Speaker 1: It feels like, yeah, Andy and haven't had that kind
Speaker 1: of nothing hard to develop this.
Speaker 6: It's more like we need this to make it even
Speaker 6: a happier ending.
Speaker 8: Yes, you know, yeah, to make this connection complete.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's five, so Brian can't end up with anyone,
Speaker 1: but he's happy with his grade. He gives himself a
Speaker 1: little punch in the arm and kisses his essay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, some fun facts before we go. John Hughes
Speaker 1: wrote this. I know you're you're a writer, Damien. You
Speaker 1: may hate this fact, but John Hughes wrote this in
Speaker 1: two days.
Speaker 6: That is annoying. That is very annoying.
Speaker 1: And I can say when he wrote it July fourth
Speaker 1: and fifth, ninet and eighty two, he was a famously
Speaker 1: a very fast writer. I think he wrote Weird Science
Speaker 1: even quicker than that, believe it or not. And I
Speaker 1: gotta say it shows yeah, but yeah, and then he yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the redrafting, and they had rehearsals and the actors
Speaker 1: were encouraged to take bits of the script that they
Speaker 1: liked and developed. So I think the stories that Andy
Speaker 1: and Brian came up with, the taping at the barns
Speaker 1: and the elephant trinket things they developed themselves.
Speaker 8: With John Hughes, which is nice.
Speaker 1: There were quite a few scenes that were taken out,
Speaker 1: Like there was a scene where Vernon, the vice principal,
Speaker 1: is spying on a female teacher who's getting changed at
Speaker 1: the school pool, which does take it to that kind
Speaker 1: of Porky's kind of style of Revenge of the Nerds
Speaker 1: kind of comedy, but Molly Ringwold actually talked him out
Speaker 1: of actually having it in the film. Really and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite seems to be other there's a dream sequence
Speaker 1: where I think Alison saw Andy's a Viking or something
Speaker 1: like really weird stuff that gladly I think they streamlined
Speaker 1: it and.
Speaker 6: It's the Viking thing. I like to have seen that.
Speaker 1: You'd love to see it as an outtake, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe not in the film. Yeah, John Hughes is a
Speaker 1: director's cameo. I think when he picks up Brian, it's
Speaker 1: actually John Hughes in the car. It's a blinket or
Speaker 1: you'll miss it. And of course a famous song Don't
Speaker 1: You Forget About Me by Simple Minds, so iconic in
Speaker 1: this movie. It was written specifically for the movie by
Speaker 1: Keith Dorsey.
Speaker 6: I wanted to know that. Yeah, I love it's brilliant.
Speaker 8: It's such a brilliant.
Speaker 6: Such a good song, you know what. The one thing
Speaker 6: I thought, and this was as soon as it played
Speaker 6: at the start, I was like, oh, why did you
Speaker 6: play it at the start? That's the only thing I thought,
Speaker 6: is like, have some other music? Yeah, because the song
Speaker 6: is such a great song, and it's so well suited
Speaker 6: to the movie, and you've really developed an attachment to
Speaker 6: these kids. By the end, like it has worked. You
Speaker 6: have gotten the emotional reaction you wanted, and the song
Speaker 6: is such a bit it would have just been so
Speaker 6: good to see that song play out somehow over the ending, Yeah,
Speaker 6: and not have heard it at the start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you already had the book ending of the essay,
Speaker 1: which I think there's some slight tweaks. I think he
Speaker 1: signs off the breakfast Club, so you have that kind
Speaker 1: of holding it together. If that's what, If that's the
Speaker 1: style you're going for, the book ending style. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're right. You know, you perhaps don't need you know,
Speaker 1: there are other songs and John Hughes was a big
Speaker 1: kind of love these music loves finding the right you
Speaker 1: know you popular songs to put in like more soundtrack overscore,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 8: But the song was.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, written by Keith Thors. He was offered the
Speaker 1: Billie Idol, who knocked it back. Offered them the Brian Ferry,
Speaker 1: who knocked it back. Then offered the Chrissy Hind and
Speaker 1: she knocked it back, but she was married to the
Speaker 1: lid singer of Simple Minds. Simple Minds then recorded it
Speaker 1: became their only hit in America.
Speaker 6: Ah, such a good song.
Speaker 8: It's a great song. So how you not at back?
Speaker 6: How do you knock that song back? It's got some
Speaker 6: great lyrics.
Speaker 1: And you can I can imagine both Billy Idol and
Speaker 1: Brian Ferry and Chrissy Hein coming out of their mouths,
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 6: But yeah, bizarre some casting.
Speaker 1: John Hughes had cast John Cusack in the Bender role,
Speaker 1: really yeah, and I don't think they had started shooting,
Speaker 1: but he decided to recast him after they had decided
Speaker 1: on him, and they the one that they wanted was
Speaker 1: Nick Cage. This could have been a Nicholas Cage film,
Speaker 1: which you know, I think that'd be pretty cool. I
Speaker 1: think you could definitely see.
Speaker 6: That totally totally as Bender. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And Rick Moranis was originally cast as the janitor and
Speaker 1: they he grew a thick beard and was speaking in
Speaker 1: a Russian accent when they was developing it.
Speaker 8: And I think.
Speaker 1: I think it John, I'm sure it was John Hughes.
Speaker 1: One of the ducers said that it's too much. He
Speaker 1: doesn't fit in this film Russian accent.
Speaker 6: So actually in the eighty during the Cold War, it's
Speaker 6: like we've got a spy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, is it Ivan di Dago or nothing?
Speaker 1: I'm afraid. And so John Capolos plays Carl and he
Speaker 1: has appeared in other John Hughes films. I think he's
Speaker 1: in wed science and I think sixteen candles as well,
Speaker 1: So there you go. So mate, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I know this podcast comes with homework. I do appreciate
Speaker 1: you watching it.
Speaker 6: I thoroughly enjoyed the homework. I'm glad I made me
Speaker 6: watch it finally, which is something I've been wanting to do.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was great. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks mate, and go out and enjoy all those
Speaker 1: freedoms that you have. Get onto a stage, tell some
Speaker 1: jokes for us and yeah, well ch that soon.
Speaker 6: All right, it sounds good, Pete. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 8: Thanks mate, see you mate.
Speaker 7: Dear mister, we accept the fact that we had to
Speaker 7: sacrifice the whole Saturday and detention for whatever it was
Speaker 7: we did wrong. What we did was wrong. We think
Speaker 7: you're crazy to make us randon now telling you who
Speaker 7: we think we are.
Speaker 5: What do you care?
Speaker 7: Can you see us as you want to see us
Speaker 7: in the simplest terms, the most convenient definitions. See us
Speaker 7: as a brand, an athlete, a basket case princess, and
Speaker 7: a criminal.
Speaker 1: Well that was a lot of fun. I've been hoping
Speaker 1: to get Damien on for a long time. He is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite comedians on the scene. Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, he's just fascinated to watch. He is always
Speaker 1: really funny, but there's always something else going on in
Speaker 1: these shows as well. So you ever get a chance
Speaker 1: to se Damian Powell live, I suggest you did not
Speaker 1: pass up that opportunity. Thank you so much for everyone
Speaker 1: we have. We are nearing the end of season three
Speaker 1: of You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet, and I couldn't deal
Speaker 1: it without my podcast manager, producer Derek Mayer some Cassways
Speaker 1: Studios dot Com. Good A, Derek good doing? O. I'm
Speaker 1: good mate, I'm pretty good. That was fun A fun
Speaker 1: chat of Dan. You've e seen half a Breakfast Club?
Speaker 1: You're telling me off there.
Speaker 10: I was really really excited about watching it because it
Speaker 10: slipped through for me as well. I was nineteen when
Speaker 10: it came out, and therefore I was too cool to
Speaker 10: watch it at the time. But I've been meaning to
Speaker 10: and all the references everyone talks about it, I even
Speaker 10: reference it as a team thing, and without admitting that
Speaker 10: I hadn't seen it, I thought, I'm just going to
Speaker 10: sneak in and watch it last night, and I chaoed
Speaker 10: on the couch. Not because it was boring. It was
Speaker 10: very intrigued to see what was happening when I thoroughly
Speaker 10: enjoyed the first half and I look forward to the
Speaker 10: second half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will enjoy it. We've probab obviously spoiled a
Speaker 1: favorite of it for you, but that's the danger of
Speaker 1: working this job, and we appreciate the sacrifices you make, Derek,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. YASNY podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Y as n Y Podcast at gmail dot com. That's
Speaker 1: the best place to get us if you want to
Speaker 1: give us some feedback. We do love the feedback. It
Speaker 1: keeps our spirits up in these lock down times and
Speaker 1: makes it all feel very wealth while what how else, Derek,
Speaker 1: can people make their love for yasny known.
Speaker 10: This is a very important one. On Apple or wherever
Speaker 10: to drop a on iTunes to drop a five star review.
Speaker 10: If you really don't like the show, make it four
Speaker 10: and a half, but five is the recommendation. Five star
Speaker 10: review and and a little bit of a comment, and
Speaker 10: it does massive things for the magical algorithms and allows
Speaker 10: it to get, you know, to stay in the charts
Speaker 10: and also reach more people to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and that you know, This expands the reach of
Speaker 1: the podcast and you know, opportunity for a variety of
Speaker 1: guests as we go on and on and I start
Speaker 1: running out of people to ask friends in my phone.
Speaker 1: It'll come in handy, no doubt. But thank you and
Speaker 1: we do. Have you got one this week, Derek. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's contacted us.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Kylie has sent through an email Kylie to yasny
Speaker 10: podcast at gmail dot com and she says, Hi, Pete
Speaker 10: just wanted to say thanks for making you ain't seen
Speaker 10: nothing yet. I'm loving it. I've been rewatching many of
Speaker 10: the movies you've discussed on the podcast that I haven't
Speaker 10: seen for years. And the more you talk about the
Speaker 10: Godfather movies, which is a lot by the way, Yep,
Speaker 10: the closer I am to thinking about maybe watching them.
Speaker 1: So we haven't quite spoken about the Godfather enough. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a challenge that I'm up to. Kylie.
Speaker 8: We'll get more Godfather. You must watch the Godfather movies.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we need to ramp up Godfather talk.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where Kylie is, but if you're in lockdown,
Speaker 1: it's fine a night where you know, spare, take some
Speaker 1: time and open a bottle of red and enjoy, enjoy.
Speaker 10: And some Cannolie and then she goes on. I really
Speaker 10: enjoyed the latest episode with Zoe coombsmar and wondered if
Speaker 10: you had any other estions of movie soundtracks to work too.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think we may have spoken
Speaker 1: about Carter Burwell potentially, who is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: film composers. He did a great job at Burn after
Speaker 1: reading he did a lot of the Coen Brothers films
Speaker 1: also in Bruges. I think it was Carter Burwell. Another
Speaker 1: fun soundtrack to listen to is The Life Aquatic with
Speaker 1: Steve's the Zoo by Wes Anderson, and it's got a
Speaker 1: lot of David Bowie songs, but in Portuguese by an
Speaker 1: artist by the name of Sue George. I think maybe
Speaker 1: he say he's got songs like Rebel, Rebel and Starman,
Speaker 1: and he's also got Mark Mothersbroough. He's also does he
Speaker 1: kind of does most of the score. He of course
Speaker 1: is the man behind Devo, so he's a composer. A
Speaker 1: lot of great musicians gone and become composed. Johnny Greenwood
Speaker 1: does great work with port Thomas Anderson. Check out the
Speaker 1: Magnolia soundtrack is amazing. But even fan thread he did
Speaker 1: great work on that and there will be blood. He's
Speaker 1: a great score as well. So that was Johnny Greenwood.
Speaker 1: Check that out as well.
Speaker 10: So there's a few yep and from me Master and
Speaker 10: Commander soundtrack, Ghost Dog soundtrack, and that's Sue George stuff
Speaker 10: from Life Aquatic. There's not a week goes by I
Speaker 10: don't listen to at least a couple of tracks off that. Yeah,
Speaker 10: absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that, So there we go, there
Speaker 1: we go. It's it's gold standard. Listen to the Life Aquatic.
Speaker 1: This sives that one fantastic Shall I finish the go
Speaker 1: for a Kylie's Curly's on a roll.
Speaker 10: I am always on the search to find music to
Speaker 10: listen to while working so I can block out all
Speaker 10: those annoying background disturbances aka husband and small child. Thanks Pepe,
Speaker 10: keep up the great work. Five starts.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Kylie, Thank you. Really it means
Speaker 1: a lot to hear the people embracing and also which
Speaker 1: episodes you like, which guests you like, any movies you
Speaker 1: want us to try to cover.
Speaker 8: I basically give a.
Speaker 1: List of thoughts starters to our potential guests and they choose,
Speaker 1: so it's sometimes hard to kind of find somebody who
Speaker 1: hasn't seen a particular movie, but I'll put it on
Speaker 1: the list and then we can go from there. We
Speaker 1: have one more show to do. We're going to have
Speaker 1: a quick break after the next week's show just to
Speaker 1: reload and yeah, and this is kind of catch up
Speaker 1: on some episodes. Get a little bit ahead of ourselves,
Speaker 1: not ahead of ourselves as far as our ego, but
Speaker 1: just record more episodes though we're not chasing our tail,
Speaker 1: so we can deliver the best possible episodes for you,
Speaker 1: to give Derek a chance to put all the magic
Speaker 1: in the episodes. After I chat with my guests, we
Speaker 1: have great people lined up for series series four. Kate
Speaker 1: Lambrook is going to come in. Sampaign's going to come back,
Speaker 1: Charlie Pickering is going to come on. The hunt for
Speaker 1: Judith Flucy will continue. For those who missed my announcement
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, Lockdown has has played havoit
Speaker 1: with getting Jude on. We want to do it face
Speaker 1: to face as opposed to do it remotely. So sadly,
Speaker 1: the much anticipated Judah Flucy conversation about the sound of
Speaker 1: music will hopefully be in series four when we come
Speaker 1: out of lockdown. It'll be a glorious day when we
Speaker 1: release it, trust me. So lots of exciting people lined
Speaker 1: up for Ryan Shelton is another one. So yes, look
Speaker 1: forward to series four. But we have one episode to
Speaker 1: go and I'm very excited. One of my favorite people
Speaker 1: just around on the scene, a man who's been doing
Speaker 1: great comedy for a long time and a great podcast
Speaker 1: for a long time, mister Josh Earl, is coming on. Josh,
Speaker 1: he's just bloody fantastic. He's a lovely guy, but he's hilarious.
Speaker 1: He works, got a great work ethic, and he pumps
Speaker 1: out a podcast called Don't You Know Who I Am?
Speaker 1: I've had the pleasure of going on. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of my audience will know Josh and know that podcast.
Speaker 1: It's such a fun podcast, Don't you Know Who I Am?
Speaker 1: It's like a It should be a game show on TV.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that it hasn't been picked up. To be
Speaker 1: absolutely honest, I've tried to have words to the right people,
Speaker 1: but without putting that aside, it maybe that doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be because it works so brilliantly as a podcast.
Speaker 1: I've done it as a live show and it's it's
Speaker 1: got a great following, great community that they've built, and
Speaker 1: josh is a great person to be my final guest
Speaker 1: on series three. If you ain't seen nothing yet, and
Speaker 1: we'll be watching a movie that I haven't seen. It's
Speaker 1: a movie that's been remade two times and it is
Speaker 1: the taking of Palam one two three. Now I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, so I'm not sure if I'm saying it right, Derek.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's a taking of Pealem one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three or one two three or not,
Speaker 1: but it's a taking of palam one two three. Well,
Speaker 1: I know it's a classic film. I've been meaning the
Speaker 1: Watcher for many years. It's been remade recently, I think,
Speaker 1: starring Denzel Washington in the last decade or so, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching that. It is a classic, but
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily like what I'm excited about. I think
Speaker 1: it's a film that a lot of our audience may
Speaker 1: not have seen. So let's try to watch it during
Speaker 1: the week and we'll have a big finale with Joshua
Speaker 1: for the final episode of Serious three. You Ain't seen
Speaker 1: nothing yet the taking of palam one, two three, Until
Speaker 1: then bye. And so we leave old Pete safe and
Speaker 1: soult and to our friends of the radio audience, we've
Speaker 1: been a pleasant good night