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Speaker 1: And joining me on the line right now is deb

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Speaker 1: from top end at signs get adeb.

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Speaker 2: Get okad here.

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Speaker 1: I am yeah, really good. Now you've been in contact

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Speaker 1: with us. You're in a situation where I mean you've

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Speaker 1: contacted me on numerous occasions in fact, about public drinking

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Speaker 1: out there in Palmerston. Tell us exactly where it's happening

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Speaker 1: and what the worry is.

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Speaker 2: Boy, it's more so the rubbish. If people want to

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Speaker 2: sleep there, I don't care. But for years now there's

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Speaker 2: been a few camps on the Stuart Highway in between

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Speaker 2: Palmel and Holtz there where the pit Lane bottle shop is,

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Speaker 2: and the rubbish in some areas is me deep. It's

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Speaker 2: all food containers, alcohol containers, are clothing, just junk and

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Speaker 2: it stretches out over a few hundred meters and it's

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Speaker 2: sort of the first thing people see as they come

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Speaker 2: in to Darwin. It's pretty embarrassing. And so for two

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Speaker 2: years now I've been ringing Larikia, I've been ringing coms Ousel,

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Speaker 2: I've been reading the local government and it's just a

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Speaker 2: big case of handball. One will say, oh no, that's

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Speaker 2: not our jurisdiction, and then they'll go you have to

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Speaker 2: encounter on then I ring Council and I've spoken the

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Speaker 2: two or three people there, all with different answers. Some say, yes,

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Speaker 2: that is our jurisdiction, some say no, it isn't. I

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Speaker 2: sent a letter to people on email a week ago

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Speaker 2: and they still even haven't haven't even replied, let alone

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Speaker 2: done anything. And then this morning on ABC Radio, I

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Speaker 2: did hear the mayor of Palmerston say they are aware

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Speaker 2: of the films down there and they're going to do

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Speaker 2: something about it. But it's seen two years. I've been

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Speaker 2: winging about it because it's just a horrible entrance to

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Speaker 2: the city for truth.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the interesting thing is you contacted us about

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Speaker 1: these a few weeks ago. We actually raised it as

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Speaker 1: well with the mayor of Palmerston, and and we've raised

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Speaker 1: it with a few different people, because it's not something

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Speaker 1: that should be happening, like we shouldn't have people drinking public.

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Speaker 1: We're continuously told that it's not okay to do so,

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Speaker 1: and that there's still the two kilometer rule in place.

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Speaker 1: But you know, goodness me, if that rule is in place,

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Speaker 1: why is it still happening? And you know, for the

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Speaker 1: sake of full disclosure, I will say that my family

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Speaker 1: owns property out there in Yarawanga as well, and my

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Speaker 1: family have been in a situation where they've contacted the

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Speaker 1: council at different times, they've contacted the police at different times.

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Speaker 1: At one point there was even a block of land

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Speaker 1: that was on fire because there had obviously been you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what had happened, but they'd ended

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Speaker 1: up being a fire. So like you just get to

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Speaker 1: the point where you go what needs to happen before

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Speaker 1: action is taken.

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Speaker 2: Well, this particular camp or camp, because there's quite a few,

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Speaker 2: it's fifty meters across the road from a bottle shop

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Speaker 2: directly across the road. If you're sitting at that bottlow

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Speaker 2: getting your bottle of wine for dinner, it's over the

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Speaker 2: road yep. So, and it has been over the road

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Speaker 2: for you years. But the mess now is just next level.

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Speaker 2: It's all going into the big drain there, so that

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Speaker 2: all ends up in the waterways and it's not I

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Speaker 2: even said to the cancel can you just put some

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Speaker 2: bins there or something, And the council lady said, well,

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Speaker 2: they're just not going to use them, and she's probably right.

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Speaker 2: I've rung Larrakia so many times asking can you take

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Speaker 2: some rubbish backs down there and ask them to clean

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Speaker 2: up their mess? And I don't even know if they attend.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if they.

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Speaker 1: Go deb it.

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Speaker 2: I'm more cranky that there's someone's job, someone is getting

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Speaker 2: paid by us to make sure that that area is

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Speaker 2: safe clean. I mean, obviously the people making the mess

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Speaker 2: the ones that should be cleaning it, but they're that

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Speaker 2: dysfunctional they're not going to clean up their mess. So

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Speaker 2: there's someone's job out there to make sure the roadsides

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Speaker 2: are clean. But why has that area been ignored for

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Speaker 2: two years? I mean it's pretty bad. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think it's a very very fair point that

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Speaker 1: you're making, and I think that probably yourself, along with me,

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Speaker 1: along with that a lot of other people are pretty

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Speaker 1: frustrated that some of these concerns that seem like real

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Speaker 1: common sense that I've noted now the Chief Minister is

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Speaker 1: using as a platform, as is the Labor Party, saying

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Speaker 1: that their common sense approach to things, Well, the common

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Speaker 1: sense approach here is saying this needs to be sorted out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, for I understand people are busy

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Speaker 2: and all that, but I rang people and they send

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Speaker 2: us some emails straight away a week ago, which I did.

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Speaker 2: I haven't even had a reply. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if they've read it. So there's someone in that department

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Speaker 2: as well that's also not replying to other people's concern. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't be the only one that's winging about this area. No,

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Speaker 2: we drive past it every day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and deb, you know, I like at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day as well, as you've pointed out, it's

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Speaker 1: like it is a situation here where people are driving,

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Speaker 1: we're driving past that, we're walking past that, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: it every day, much like other areas where there is

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Speaker 1: rubbish left there. It's like it's not okay. We are

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Speaker 1: a capital city. We want how we want this location

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Speaker 1: like we want and to be viewed like it is

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Speaker 1: a great capital city. And some of the behavior that

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Speaker 1: we're walking past at the moment that we're actually not

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Speaker 1: happy with walking past. But I just don't understand why

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Speaker 1: it's getting ignored by those that are in positions of.

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Speaker 2: Power because they're not doing their job. It's just as

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Speaker 2: simple as that. If I, well, I'm a sign rider,

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Speaker 2: if I decide to just not put signs up I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing my job. I don't get paid down. It

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Speaker 2: becomes to all of this bureaucracy of oh, that's their department,

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Speaker 2: that their department. Oh I'm on that leave, I'm on

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Speaker 2: sick leave, I'm on stress leave. It's just a constant

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Speaker 2: battle with them just to get someone to actually respond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bullshit to put it really bluntly, and something

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Speaker 1: needs to us.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible. You could not be able to work a

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Speaker 2: business that way. You would not be able to be

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Speaker 2: that flippant with your customers because you would go broke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're spot on, you get fact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are on.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that anything with dot NT, dot gov,

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Speaker 2: dot I you at the end of their email can

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Speaker 2: just not act on any of it.

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Speaker 1: Deb Let us see whether if we contact Dipple, whether

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Speaker 1: it makes any difference. We'll try our best. We try

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Speaker 1: and help at the very lace. Thank you, No worries

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Deb, Absolutely rubbish going into the rivers.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely deb. I agree with you. Thank you as always

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Speaker 1: good to speak with you talk so thank you