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Speaker 1: Jum Mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: That's the single Gadigle Land that was released in August.

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Speaker 2: But as of well as of yesterday, we have new

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Speaker 2: music from the Oils. After nearly twenty years after their

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Speaker 2: last long form released, Oils have dropped a mini album

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Speaker 2: called Macarata Project. Will we have any excuse at all

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Speaker 2: to have Rob Hurst? Donnie joins us?

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Speaker 1: Now? Hello? Rob? Hi, Amanda? Hi Jersey? How are you Rob?

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Speaker 3: I know Amanda just likes getting you on for your

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Speaker 3: ropey arms.

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling them through the through the radio.

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind, Yeah, I must have a mean.

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Speaker 1: I do very much enjoy coming in and saying hi.

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Speaker 1: You're always so friendly and that.

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Speaker 3: Some might say a little bit too much.

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Speaker 4: You were carrying a taser last time. But never mind.

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Speaker 4: What tell us about Macarata Project? And actually, what's a

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Speaker 4: mini album?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Many albums when you've only got seven or eight songs?

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Speaker 3: Didn't that used to be an EP? Wasn't that just

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Speaker 3: an EP? No?

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Speaker 1: It's long as though an EP, it's sort of than

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Speaker 1: an album. And the reason it came about was we

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Speaker 1: got together for songwriting after many years last year and

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Speaker 1: Jim had a bunch of songs. Of course, as he

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Speaker 1: always does. Pete had some songs, I had a few,

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Speaker 1: and we had about twenty five songs, and we discovered

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Speaker 1: that quite a few of them were on the theme

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Speaker 1: of a First Nation's justice and reconciliation, and so we

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Speaker 1: decided to I shouldn't use the word quarantine this year,

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Speaker 1: should I. We decided to move those into a special

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Speaker 1: project and we're calling it the Macarata because that's part

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Speaker 1: of the Oilery Statement from the Heart, this incredible document

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Speaker 1: that was presented by First Nations people three years ago

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Speaker 1: to the federal government as a way forward for reconciliation,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately has been sitting there pretty much ever since

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Speaker 1: without too much light being shot on it. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: You've got some interesting people joining you. I know that

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Speaker 4: one of a powerful reading of the statement features Adam Goods,

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Speaker 4: Troy Casidelia, I know, just Malboy's performing on the album

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Speaker 4: as well. Some interesting people you're working with, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: It's been incredible really right from get go. We decided

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Speaker 1: that we wanted to include some of our old friends

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Speaker 1: way back to the eighties when we toured the Desert.

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Speaker 1: So there's Sammy Busher from the Rumpy Band there, Uncle

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Speaker 1: keV Carmody, Frankie Emmer from Alice Springs, Uncle Banna Laurie

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Speaker 1: appears on the song You just played a little section

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Speaker 1: of gadagalland but we also met a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: the new First Nations musicians and artists and singers, and

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Speaker 1: all of them have elevated the songs on the Macara

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Speaker 1: project through the roof. It's been incredible And you know,

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Speaker 1: we were saying as a band the other day, would

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Speaker 1: have been great to have done more of these collaborations

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Speaker 1: in the past because the oils have been such a

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Speaker 1: closed shop for so many years, but still.

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Speaker 3: You have opened up so many so much dialogue from

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Speaker 3: beds of burning back in the eighties to now. When

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Speaker 3: I know that you guys wouldn't claim this, but in

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Speaker 3: years to come people say, well, Mi, not all did

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Speaker 3: a lot for building the bridge between White Australia and

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Speaker 3: Black Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's right. We think it's unfinished business and

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Speaker 1: there's a way to go here, but a lot being achieved,

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Speaker 1: but still a long way to go. And one of

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Speaker 1: the great things would be if the Statement from the

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Speaker 1: Heart became part of the Australian Constitution because it we

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Speaker 1: used together the ancient and modern identities of this country

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Speaker 1: better than any other document. And so you know, and

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Speaker 1: you're right, we've been, you know, right back to the

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Speaker 1: Black Cellar White Fellow tour. I think when we first

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Speaker 1: tour the center of the Western desert and the top end,

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Speaker 1: we've being back countless times. And you know, once that

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Speaker 1: desert gets into your blood, it stays there and it's

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Speaker 1: really strong and and we've made such great friends over

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Speaker 1: the years, but particularly making the album. There were about

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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen collaborators on the macarat A project.

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Speaker 3: Well, all of this.

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Speaker 4: Is now available, isn't it. This mini album Ready to.

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Speaker 1: Go Yeah, came out on Friday, a couple of songs,

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Speaker 1: a couple of songs came out before Category Land and

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Speaker 1: also a song called First Nation. But the album is

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Speaker 1: actually the mini albums actually out now. And the only problem,

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Speaker 1: of course, like most bands, is that by now we

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Speaker 1: would normally be touring, hopefully with our collaborators on stage,

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Speaker 1: and that's all been put back, put back, you know,

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Speaker 1: So hopefully by March next year, if the borders stay open,

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to move around the country and grab

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Speaker 1: as many of our indigenous performers and singers, get them

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Speaker 1: on stage as well and perform the album, the mini

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Speaker 1: album back to back as well as some of the

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Speaker 1: older songs you know which fit into the catalog, like

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Speaker 1: the Dead Heart, There's a Burning All or a Sky

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Speaker 1: you know all that.

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Speaker 3: We always just like seeing you on the drum kit, Rob.

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Speaker 3: Everyone appreciates it. When you're back on the kit, just

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Speaker 3: builting the way to Hercules. Everyone just says, yes, this

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Speaker 3: is what it's about.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've got to keep doing it. You

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Speaker 1: don't have too many COVID years because drummers wrested up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep working on practice your you're gonna get on

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Speaker 4: your paradiddles, Rob, start doing those paradidles again.

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Speaker 1: I know nothing sadder than an old guy that can't

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Speaker 1: do his.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what you're talking about, you know exactly,

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Speaker 3: Rob Hurst, It's always a treat to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Look out for the album available from It's now It's

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Speaker 3: good it. Go and do your buy that thing.

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Speaker 1: Rob. Thank you with Jos and Amanda