1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: We do know that Domains and Your First home Buyer 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: report has revealed that Darwin is the best city for 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: the first home buyers looking for an entry priced house, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: with the fastest saving time at three years and six months. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: It's also found that units in Darwin have the second 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: fastest saving time, being two years and three months. Now 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: joining me is Domain's chief of Research and Economics, doctor 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Nicola Powell. Good morning to you. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Good morning or almost good afternoon. 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: It is well for you, yes, still early for us. Nikola. 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Now now let me ask you. I know that obviously 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: there has been this report released. Can you talk us 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: through the findings for homes in Darwin. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So, it's almost like a time machine has been 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: given to first home buyers in Darwin because we have 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: seen property or entry level property prices all in Darwin, 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: both for houses and for units. We've also got hiring 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: interest rates, So what that means is people are finding 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: that interest rates on savings are higher than what they were. 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: And we've also seen a bit of wages growth. So 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: all of those three things together have aligned to reduce 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: the time it takes to save for an entry level 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: deposit in Darwin. And actually most of our capital cities 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: did see a decline in the time to say so 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: it is based on a couple, and we're based it 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: on an average age of that couple aged between twenty 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: five and thirty four years old. They're really kind of 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: prime in that kind of first journey of trying to 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: save for a deposit and by their first time and 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: it is good news. You know, we saw the time 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: it takes to save for an entry house depositing Darwin 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: decline by nine months compared to this time last year, 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: and even for units it was down by two months 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: over the last year. So a bit of good news 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: for first time bias. 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: And so is that really the trend here? Is that 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: sort of why we are in a situation? I suppose 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: we're we're for Darwin, we're bucking the trend. I guess yeah. Look, 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I think the biggest. 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: Thing reducing this time to save has really been the 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: fall in property prices. And really, you know, the best 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: outcome for first time buyers is when you do see 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: property prices pull back, because what that means is saving 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: that all important twenty percent deposit is much less. So 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: it means that journey time of saving that lump sum 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: deposit is shorter, and you know we are. We have 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: seen prices pullback over the last twelve months. The only 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: city that did truly buck the trend was Adelaide, where 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: we did see an increase in the time it takes 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: to save for a house unit deposit in Adelaide, and 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: that really does reflect the stronger market conditions there. 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so how do we compare in Darwin. 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I guess to some of those other locations. As you've said, 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Adelaide bucking the trend, but how do we compare it 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: to some of the other capital cities. 56 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely so, Darling really wins the trophy for the best 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: market for first time buyers. It has the quickest time 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 2: to take. It takes to save for an entry house 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: deposit three years. In six months, I'm going to go 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: to the other end of the spectrum, which is our 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: longest journey time to save. We can probably all guess 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: which city that is. It is Sydney six years and 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: eight months to save for an entry level house to 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: posit in, So you know, someone is almost hard. You 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: know that roughly about half that some our other cities. 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: For the second longest time it takes to save is 67 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: good old camera you know, the nation's capital six years 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: to save for an entry house to posit in camera 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: some of our more affordable or I Stal wouldn't therefore, 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: all some of our other cities that have the shortest 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: savings time, Darwin is number one and in at number 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: two is Perth at three years seven months. Or remember 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: Darwin is three years and six months, and. 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: So what about when it comes to units, so. 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: Darwin is also up there. It doesn't have the quickest 76 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: time to save out of all of our capitals. Perth 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: takes out that crown at two years and three months, 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: but Darwin is very close two years and six months. 79 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: So it's certainly one of our quiter market entrants in 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: terms of you know, this is really about gaining access 81 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: to the market. How quickly does it take me to 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: save for that all important twenty percent deposit person Darwin? 83 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: The houses and units are up there our more expensive 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: cities such as Sydney and Melbourne. For unit, it takes 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: four years and seven months to save for an entry 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: unit deposit in Sydney, so you know, again roughly about 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: half the time in Darwin. So really positive news I 88 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: think for prospective first time buyers in Darwin. 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: And Nicola. How long has it been since we sort 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: of saw entry prices well for houses with the fastest 91 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: saving time at this rate in Darwin. 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Look, Darwin always seems to kind of come out a 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: little bit up top in terms of trumping the other 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: cities in terms of fastest journey time. You know. I 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: think in recent years anyway, Sydney and Melbourne are always 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: the ones that are the longest, tend to be the 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: longest journey times. Canberra has really risen up the rank 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: in recent years in terms of we've really seen an 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: escalation of house price there. But I think the new 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: thing we do this report annually. The difference this year 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: compared to last year is we look at mortgage serviceability, 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: but we also look at the time it takes to save. 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: And I think the biggest turnaround here is the fact 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: that we have seen a shortening in the time it 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: takes to save for an entry level deposit. We still 106 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: have got the time it takes to save higher now 107 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: in Darwin compared to pre pandemic, it's one month longer 108 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: than it took back in March of twenty twenty, and 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: it's two months longer compared to five years ago. What 110 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: I would say though, is Darwin is offering a much 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: more stable environment for first home buyers and you look 112 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: to more double cities and I'm going to pick out 113 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: an extreme here and that is Hobard. Hobart's time to 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: take to save has blown out by seventeen months compared 115 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: to pre pandemic levels. Wow, and that's comparison, It doesn't 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: it really show that Darwin offers that much more stable environment. 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: So it means that first time buys have a much 118 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: better chance of keeping up with pockety market dynamics in Darwin. 119 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Well, Nicola Pale, we always appreciate your time. Thank you 120 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: very much for coming on the show this morning and 121 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: just having a bit of a chat to us about 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the annual First Home Buyer Report. 123 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure, Thank you, thank you, Thanks so much,