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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Happy Families podcast, Real parenting solutions every

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Speaker 1: day on Australia's most downloaded parenting podcast. I've justin. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Kylie, my wife, mum to our six kids,

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Speaker 1: and Kylie. Today's to day I'll Do Better Tomorrow, where

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Speaker 1: we reflect on the week that was and highlight what's

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Speaker 1: working and what's not. And we haven't done this for

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Speaker 1: weeks and.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, and it's interesting. We're sitting here and I'm actually wondering,

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Speaker 2: what have we got to talk about. We did nothing

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Speaker 2: these holidays? We did nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I like the whole idea of the first

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Speaker 1: one back is let's talk about what we did over

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Speaker 1: the last month or so. And the answer is cost

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Speaker 1: of living. We're not going anywhere. It's a staycation. Our

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Speaker 1: backyard has become the new bali because it's a lot

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Speaker 1: cheaper than going to plane and sitting over there in

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Speaker 1: the sweltering heat. And oh gosh, it's been extremely quiet.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, we still need to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we have something that we're working on to do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The Christmas break was very quiet. I had a funny

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Speaker 1: interaction with one of our kids. She said to me

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Speaker 1: that she went to the shops and bought some ice cream,

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Speaker 1: and when she pulled the ice cream out of the bag,

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Speaker 1: she pulled out two boxes of ice creams. And I said,

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Speaker 1: hang on, why have you got two boxes of ice creams?

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Speaker 1: This is not a joke, by the way, this is true.

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Speaker 1: You looking at me like I'm winding up for a punchline.

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Speaker 1: And she said, well, Dad, the ice cream was half price,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought I really should buy two because

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Speaker 1: technically I'm getting one for free. And then she looked

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Speaker 1: at me and she did the little hashtag with the

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Speaker 1: fingers two hands, four fingers hashtag and goes hashtag girl math.

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Speaker 1: So we spent twice as much as we needed to

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Speaker 1: because we could have had just one box. We could

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Speaker 1: have had all the ice cream we needed for half

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Speaker 1: the price, but instead we still spent the full price

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Speaker 1: and got twice as much ice cream.

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Speaker 2: She's not the only one who gets it wrong. I

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Speaker 2: decided I was going to buy some Cornetto's, and I

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Speaker 1: We're trying to stop snacking and get rid of all

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Speaker 1: this junk food from our home, and here you are

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Speaker 1: buying cornetto We had.

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Speaker 2: People coming over for dinner and it was a really

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Speaker 2: easy dessert and I needed ten, and so I looked

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Speaker 2: at it and I was like, okay, I need three

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Speaker 1: That's twelve, right, Well, I can't buy I would have

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Speaker 1: just gone but that's okay. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But then I decided that Buller crunches were half price

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Speaker 2: and so that it would be much better for me

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Speaker 2: to buy those. But I didn't continue to do the mass.

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Speaker 2: I just went, oh, I'll just get three boxes. Because

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Speaker 2: I was getting three boxes.

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Speaker 1: Why we had all the Buller ice cream in the

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Speaker 2: Home and we couldn't fit them all in, I was

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Speaker 2: trying to work out what I've done wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's like eight in a pack, so you bought the

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Speaker 1: splits had ten in a pack, so you bought like

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Speaker 1: thirty ice creams for the ten that we needed. That

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Speaker 1: explains why I've been ining to ice blocks every single

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Speaker 1: trying not to snack. We're trying to be healthy. That's

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Speaker 1: the New Year's there, Really you're not. I need to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the sugar. So that we don't have

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Speaker 2: Clearly you have a problem.

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Speaker 1: What's your old do better tomorrow, missus happy families? What

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Speaker 1: is it that you have done this week that you

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Speaker 1: either need to improve on to be bet at tomorrow

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Speaker 1: or you've done this week that you've just nailed and

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Speaker 1: you want to keep doing it because it'll help you

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Speaker 1: to be bet at tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So a hanful of years ago, we moved to the

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Speaker 2: Sunshine Coast and I literally lived the best nine months

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Speaker 1: So for those of you who missed the story, it's

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Speaker 1: three years ago this month, pretty much three years ago

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Speaker 1: this week, we had our house in Brisbane. You came

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Speaker 2: But obviously, once we brought a house and we started

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Speaker 2: But that meant getting rid of you and the six

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Speaker 1: It's not like you haven't you regret about saying that.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't actually do it, tried I wanted to.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to curl up in a ball and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 2: But as there was result of that, obviously we've acknowledged

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Speaker 1: We've literally stopped we did a big fact nothing. I've

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Speaker 1: read about six books this year already, and I've read too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it got me thinking about that gorgeous nine months

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Speaker 2: Was looking at the components that made up the goodness

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Speaker 2: was having time for me each morning. But as our

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Speaker 1: Fresh Starts, Fresh Starts talked about it on Monday. Feels good.

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Speaker 2: And I just just started writing like it just started

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing for me was learning that it's okay

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Speaker 2: to take time for me. I keep having to learn

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Speaker 2: this every mom does. Life gets so busy, and there's

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Speaker 2: so many things that you think you have to say yes.

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Speaker 1: To, all essential, it's all necessary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so your needs get pushed to the side

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Speaker 2: But you end up saying no to you in the process.

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Speaker 2: introspection and look at who I'm becoming and who I

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Speaker 2: want to become, to read other people's amazing, intelligent, well

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Speaker 2: as it's happening. They're all things that are so important

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Speaker 2: to me, but they just got left out last year.

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Speaker 1: The take home message, the real parenting solution.

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Speaker 1: Can I say it a little bit crassley, It's okay

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Speaker 1: give yourself that little bit each day where you say no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: little bit of selfishness may end up being quite so

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Speaker 1: it's not selfishness, no, because it makes you better for

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Speaker 2: But we've been trained for so long to believe that

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Speaker 2: taking time out for ourselves is selfish. Now we've got

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, my older better Tomorrow is a continuation of

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Speaker 1: a theme that I picked up the end of last

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Speaker 1: year for those of you who might have missed it

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Speaker 1: After a couple of years of me begging, begging, oh no, no, begging, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Emily to come surfing. I just want to teach. I've

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Speaker 1: have been unsuccessful in getting any of them interested it all.

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Speaker 1: And so every couple of months I've said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: to go. But for Christmas, because she couldn't afford a gift,

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Speaker 1: going to the beach most days. We can't quite get

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Speaker 1: it's just that the conditions are wrong. Yeah, but every

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Speaker 1: such a joyful thing to watch. I had an insight, though,

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Speaker 1: and I guess I've had this a few times in

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Speaker 1: a few different ways, but for older but it's Moorrow.

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Speaker 1: What I really want to emphasize is your youngest kids,

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Speaker 1: especially when you have a big family like us and

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Speaker 1: spread them across fifteen years. With those six kids, our

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Speaker 1: youngest children certainly get the best of us, and our

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Speaker 1: youngest daughter particularly gets the best of us. We're old,

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Speaker 1: we're wiser, but we also have less pressure and less

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to disagree with anything you've said.

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Speaker 2: I think that all of it is true, especially from

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Speaker 2: the other end, I think so much of it's about timing.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know, it's just a beautiful, beautiful

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