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Speaker 2: Yesterday Obviously, the Territories COVID situation escalated with the government

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Speaker 2: over three hundred people attended, but apparently there was less

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Speaker 2: is the owner of the Nunamar Tavern, Tony Innes. Good

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Tony, Oh there were you not too

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Speaker 2: bad mate? Obviously the Chief Minister's comments yesterday about the

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Speaker 2: When you heard him saying that tiny look.

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Speaker 3: Firstly, I want to apologize that we didn't get our check.

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Speaker 4: In right that day. We were short stuff and that's.

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Speaker 1: Partly due to COVID, and you know, we were relying

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Speaker 4: Thing here as well as us.

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Speaker 1: But I also like to say that you know, during

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Speaker 3: The pub do self check in with you know, the

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Speaker 3: you know, we didn't get caught out.

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Speaker 1: I admit that, and I laim and you know, the

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Speaker 1: that was pretty disappointing to get singled out like that

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Speaker 3: Out in the community in Darwin. That's that's not airport

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Speaker 3: we're okay, I'll line it. We didn't a job wasn't

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Speaker 2: Well, I reckon there's a lot of issues there going. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this morning, Tony, and I think you know, we've been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look like I said, I leane it, we went

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Speaker 1: But up until that point, we've had a very good

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Speaker 3: And our other functions without checking in and all that.

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Speaker 3: We did need more COVID marshals, and we just thought

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Speaker 3: We got caught out that day. We had a lot

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Speaker 4: In a very short period of time just before the race.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, ilan it, we got caught out.

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Speaker 1: By election he'll keep the borders closed as long as

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Speaker 3: So you know that sil sort of lets people think, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: Well, Tony, are there going to be any changes or

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously our next major function in January with you run,

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Speaker 3: Be cost to other happusiness and other businesses that are

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Speaker 3: I do everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I'll go check in, and I feel like, why am

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Speaker 3: When several people walk past me at the shop or

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Speaker 4: We were given yep, twelve.

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Speaker 3: So there's so much complicting rules and regulations out there.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have to get ready to wrap up,

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Speaker 2: But I do want to ask you before I let

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Speaker 1: Well, it stays unless unless we get changed to a

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Speaker 1: now we've got some staff that were booked to get

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Speaker 2: So I mean, wow, yeah, that's pretty intense.

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Speaker 3: We've got quite a few stuff fully back.

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Speaker 3: We're going about doing the right thing. And but now

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Speaker 3: Now a pub shut Tony.

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Speaker 2: So the pub is shut until did you say next Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: But in terms of the financial impact of this situation

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Speaker 2: But how big a financial impact is this going to have?

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Speaker 3: Look, it'll be tough over the next week. So look,

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Speaker 4: We never qualified the job keeper. We've never caught qualified for.

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Speaker 3: Any local government assistance and I don't want to I'm

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Speaker 3: proud of the fact that we survive without it. But

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Speaker 4: At least ten days.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're getting a bit of money coming in

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Speaker 4: And ever changing roles. You know, it does get a

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Speaker 2: you after what's gone on.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your time, Katie, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate,