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Speaker 1: It's time for the week that was and in the

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Speaker 1: studio with us this morning. Where should I go First?

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Speaker 1: We've got Chancey Paike from the from the Labor Party.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Chancey.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you in the studio. We've got the

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Speaker 1: treasurer for the COLP, Bill Yan, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. Great to be back.

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Speaker 1: It was a bit of a Central Australia feel this

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Speaker 1: morning with you two in here.

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Speaker 4: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: The best part of the terror.

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Speaker 1: Kathleen, Kathleen dirty looking the pair of you as you

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Speaker 1: were saying that you're from the best part of the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory.

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Speaker 4: You'll have to fight me and Kathleen for that first,

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Speaker 4: for that title. We love the top end.

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Speaker 1: Although you know, earlier in the week and on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: as the tropical cyclone Fena was coming through, maybe we

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Speaker 1: were wishing we were in Central Australia. You're not looking

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Speaker 1: exactly well. It was a major clean up effort. We

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Speaker 1: know it's still underway across the top end. Dafterfeen tore

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Speaker 1: through the territory on the weekend, leaving significant damage but

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Speaker 1: fortunately no injuries. We know the Category three system brought

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Speaker 1: destructive winds and heavy rain to Darwin as well as

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Speaker 1: the Tiwi Islands.

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Speaker 4: Trees were uprooted, power.

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Speaker 1: Lines brought down, roofs torn from homes and businesses. One

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Speaker 1: of the more serious incidents occurring at Royal Darwin Hospital,

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Speaker 1: where a four square meter section of ceiling collapsed on

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Speaker 1: the first floor. Now it wasn't the only section. We

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Speaker 1: also learned yesterday that there was a second section of

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Speaker 1: the hospital as well. That's having some structural looking into

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Speaker 1: it to determine just how bad that damage is at

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Speaker 4: So that's some of the damage we know. There's been

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Speaker 4: a massive.

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Speaker 1: Effort throughout this week to get everything cleaned up, and

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Speaker 1: as you would expect, I suppose when there is an

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Speaker 4: Run that smoothly.

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Speaker 1: We've had a lot of calls, a lot of messages

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Speaker 1: this week, people who've had big trees come down, green

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Speaker 1: to get to the dump. There's certainly been some more

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Speaker 1: clarity as the days have gone on, but yeah, on

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Speaker 1: Monday it was anything but business as usual. I think

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, I mean we've just been inundated this week

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Speaker 5: of people with some of those teething issues you kind

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Speaker 5: emergency situation. But I think the main thing that we've

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Speaker 5: taken away is just those communication to people, Like people

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Speaker 5: understood we had a cyclone, so of course power is

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Speaker 5: going to be impacted, yea, But especially around the website,

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Speaker 5: people just wanted to know where crews were working so

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Speaker 5: course the plan around where to take Greenway certainly wasn't

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Speaker 4: No, not in the early days.

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Speaker 1: We know that, you know, some of that clarifications definitely

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Speaker 3: Only one hundred and ten houses now to have power,

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Speaker 3: And that was the update from this morning good which

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Speaker 3: And in such a short time lot, we're coming up

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Speaker 3: Better and the smart thing is then to learn from

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Speaker 3: I think that's reflected in the fact there was no injuries,

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Speaker 3: and I think that the lack of issues that we've

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Speaker 4: And it was touch and go there.

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Speaker 1: I suppose for a bit though, where we're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't like, I don't know, and I think things

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Speaker 1: Have they now got out on Teee Islands a cyclone

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Speaker 3: that was a large piece of work that was done

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Speaker 4: And that's why it's.

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Speaker 5: So important for BOMB to give those early warnings. You know,

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Speaker 3: Of known for like, yeah, it'll be right exactly. We're

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Speaker 4: We're a territory tough. I mean let's not joke we do.

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Speaker 1: I mean we don't laugh at Queensland when they talk

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Speaker 6: Have a look at our?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the real heroes here are absolutely at

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Speaker 2: They've been doing the work.

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Speaker 7: I think Bill the Chief Minister said last night that

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Speaker 7: They've done an additional hundred, so you know, just really,

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Speaker 7: I mean they are the heroes in this situation.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: I think as well, when we let me think about it,

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Speaker 7: we think, yeah, cyclone or when it gets downgraded big

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Speaker 2: It's not until you're actually walking.

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Speaker 7: Through the suburbs or the city that you actually just

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Speaker 7: It's a very lush city. It's very clean and when

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Speaker 7: you just see the debris laying around everywhere and you

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Speaker 7: see all the crews out doing the work. You think,

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Speaker 7: particularly in the weather, you think, God, that's a bloody job.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy thousand tons of green waste is

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Speaker 1: what Samone Saunders from the City of Darwin told us yesterday,

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Speaker 1: just for thing's going to need to be cleaned up,

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Speaker 2: That is a lot of green waste.

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Speaker 7: Then you've also got to think about you know over

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Speaker 7: And I think, you know, one of the things that

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Speaker 7: is all of the new remote houses are built for

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Speaker 7: a category five side tolone, so you know, acknowledging that people,

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Speaker 7: and it's safe to do so, and your house is

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Speaker 7: But also if you want to go and be with family,

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Speaker 7: Any government who says that they've done it all amazingly

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Speaker 7: a think about themselves. As Bill has said, everything is

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Speaker 2: Need to learn from that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, climate change is real and we are going

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Speaker 7: to see more cyclones, So how do we adapt.

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Speaker 2: And prepare well?

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Speaker 1: Potentially the undergrounding of power one of the other things

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Speaker 1: I do wonder, I guess first and foremost, Bill, are

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Speaker 1: we in a situation are you, as the treasurer seeking

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Speaker 1: some financial help from the federal government at the moment

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Speaker 1: in terms of all that green waste? I know after

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Speaker 1: Cyclone Markers we got some from the federal government for

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Speaker 1: their green waste in there. I know we don't have

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Speaker 1: as much green waste potentially.

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Speaker 4: This time round.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the questions we were asking on

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday. So is that sort of a possibility

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Speaker 1: funding from the Feds maybe to help people get rid

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Speaker 1: of all the greenways sets around on the verges.

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Speaker 3: I know the Chief's been talking with her. It's the

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Speaker 3: emergency Minister mc bain. Yeah, I know the Chief has

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Speaker 3: met with her and been talking with her regularly on

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Speaker 3: what some of that recovery stuff looks like. I'm not

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Speaker 3: probably clean up around Darwin.

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Speaker 1: What about some money from the FEDS as well for

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Speaker 1: some undergrounding of the power lines?

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Speaker 3: Not going to a really asked that question I was

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Speaker 1: When we live in a cyclone pron location. We're you know,

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Speaker 3: Certainly. I don't think it was after Marcus that it

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Speaker 7: Later, would absolutely welcome the and support the asked the

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Speaker 1: It is one of those things that everybody needs to

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Speaker 7: As well, like you know, we need to look at

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Speaker 2: How can we be more resilient?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I agree with builders an opportunity for this government

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Speaker 7: Now we've changed the planning rules, you know, like every

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Speaker 7: and you know, I mean, I've got family in Perap

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Speaker 2: They had solar and a battery.

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Speaker 7: So they became the communal house in Perap for people

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Speaker 2: We love Darne and it's the.

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Speaker 2: In the future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that is sort of the discussions

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Speaker 3: I think the key to this CAID is that the

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Speaker 3: sorry mate, but throw out a press release to say

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Speaker 3: Trust me. They undergrounded some high voltage through Nightcliff and

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Speaker 4: It's a heck of an expensive job.

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Speaker 3: It is. And that's why when we came int Powamle

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Speaker 2: And do something? And you can't do nothing with But

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: You've got to have a very, very clear and concise

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Speaker 7: The longer you leave it, though, Katie, the longer you

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Speaker 2: It's just saying that we might do it in the future.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to come out and make false promises

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Speaker 4: Tell us that you're going to look into it.

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Speaker 3: It's a piece of work that needs to be done,

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Speaker 3: and I think to do the work, power and water

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Speaker 3: And like these thousands upon thousand dollars per meter to

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Speaker 1: You know, And I wonder whether at some point here

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Speaker 5: We could argue we are resource rich, it's just around

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Speaker 7: The determination we've got to get it and get it

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Speaker 7: They're just saying, oh, well someone asked some time ago,

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Speaker 5: But what frustrates me is canbra you know, they don't

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Speaker 2: And let's remember the hospital was designed the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're just reaching the point, you know, even

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Speaker 3: That's the thing across the board. Cap aging infrastructure, infrastructure

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Speaker 3: it's that plan about how do we go about extending

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the general thing.

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Speaker 7: When the territory was given self government, there wasn't actually

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Speaker 2: She'll be right, mate.

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Speaker 7: It's like we've got aging infrastructure and we've got legacy

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Speaker 7: But what we do need to go is the government

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Speaker 7: Where is that money gonna go?

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Speaker 1: Well, literally, someone else had just sent us an email

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Speaker 1: there's plenty to discuss this morning.

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Speaker 6: Mixed one or four point nine's three point sixty the

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the week that was if you've

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Speaker 4: Now, it's been a big week.

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Speaker 1: We know the government earlier this week, well yesterday I

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Speaker 4: So essentially what it's going.

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Speaker 1: To mean is that when you get a BDO or

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it means that, you know, it gives people an

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Speaker 3: and I come back with full recommendations. Now, some of

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Speaker 3: those recommendations are going to take a little bit more

445
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Speaker 3: time to implement, but the simple one that came out

446
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Speaker 3: of that review and police have been asking for this

447
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Speaker 3: is changing those seven day bdos to twenty eight days.

448
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Speaker 3: And really that's a bit of a no brainer, and

449
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Speaker 3: we can get in and we can make those changes

450
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Speaker 3: from seven days to twenty eight days, and that you're right,

451
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Speaker 3: it gives people that little bit of a break. The

452
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Speaker 3: police are saying seven days really doesn't do a lot,

453
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Speaker 3: whereas twenty eight days gives people that break and gives

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Speaker 3: them the opportunity to make possibly some of that change.

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Speaker 3: So we bought that on the agency yesterday to bring

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Speaker 3: that part of that review through and it's a real

457
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Speaker 3: simple one and it gives the police a little bit

458
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Speaker 3: more power to do what they need to do on

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Speaker 3: those bdos to get people off the grog. And of

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Speaker 3: course leading into this Christmas period, I suppose some more opportunities.

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Speaker 3: I suppose another tool for the police to use to

462
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Speaker 3: deal with some of those problem drinkers.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, look, I don't see it as a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: but we certainly haven't had a lot of feedback over

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Speaker 1: the day or two since we've been talking about it,

466
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Speaker 1: people saying that they think it's a bad thing. But

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Speaker 1: I mean you touched on there that there were other recommendations, Chancy.

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Speaker 1: What were some of those other recommendations from the oppositions

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Speaker 1: understanding that you maybe would have liked to have seen

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Speaker 1: in force.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, look, there are what we understand that there were

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Speaker 7: four recommendations. The other recommendation was about allowing a voluntary

473
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Speaker 7: opt in flaws for licensed venues, because what we are

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Speaker 7: hearing from people in the community is great band drinker

475
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Speaker 7: Register actually works and allows people to put themselves on

476
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Speaker 7: there as well. Lots of aunties I know at Bush

477
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Speaker 7: and in town they put themselves so they don't get

478
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Speaker 7: humbug to buy grog from family. But also, you know,

479
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Speaker 7: this voluntary area would allow venues to register and put

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Speaker 7: themselves on because what lots of people are saying is

481
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Speaker 7: people get on the band drinker register, they can't buy

482
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Speaker 7: grog from takeaway, but they can go into a pub

483
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Speaker 7: and have a good old charge and then get pushed

484
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Speaker 7: out onto the street and become the community's problem. So

485
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Speaker 7: it allows some venues to say, yeah, we're willing to

486
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Speaker 7: give it a go. Information sharing was another one around

487
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Speaker 7: sharing that information. So look, certainly Labor absolutely supports the BDR.

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Speaker 7: We brought it in and its first machinations, the seven

489
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Speaker 7: days that was introduced by Natasha files around those band

490
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Speaker 7: drinking orders, So look, it does require work. We are

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Speaker 7: asking that the government released the full review and the

492
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Speaker 7: recommendations because Katie, this is important that industry like hospitality

493
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Speaker 7: gets to have a say, but our medical services, our organizations,

494
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Speaker 7: our social services all good.

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Speaker 2: To have input.

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Speaker 7: Duran Young moved a motion in Parliament. I gave notice

497
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Speaker 7: this week as well, calling on the government in next

498
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Speaker 7: year in March or February to table or report around

499
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Speaker 7: the timelines of when they're going to actually look to

500
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Speaker 7: introduce the three remaining measures and anything else, because you

501
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Speaker 7: need to have a comprehensive approach to our clock.

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Speaker 1: So with those other three remaining measures, I mean, Billy,

503
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Speaker 1: is that something that the government's going to be looking.

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Speaker 3: At working through those. I said, we've done the seven

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Speaker 3: days and twenty eight because a simple, straightforward and fairly easy,

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Speaker 3: and we're able to do that immediately once we've got

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Speaker 3: the report. So the other piece is required, like of

508
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Speaker 3: course BDR on premise for those who want to opt

509
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Speaker 3: into that, there's some technology requirements. It's something we can't

510
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Speaker 3: do straight away. I don't believe it requires any legislative change,

511
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Speaker 3: but there's some technology requirements needed and some stuff back

512
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Speaker 3: of house with DCDD to be able to do that.

513
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Speaker 3: The information sharing, again is a technology thing, and it's

514
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Speaker 3: setting up how that information sharing works to make sure

515
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Speaker 3: that we're sharing the rights up but also protecting individuals too,

516
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Speaker 3: So that's quite critical. So that's another that's a piece

517
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Speaker 3: of administrative work that needs to be on which will

518
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Speaker 3: happen behind the scenes, and that will just naturally happen.

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Speaker 1: I know people will also though, be looking at Okay,

520
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Speaker 1: you know, if we've got problem drinkers out on the street,

521
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Speaker 1: have we got enough police to be able to go

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Speaker 1: out there and check on them, you know, arrest them

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Speaker 1: if needed, give them a bdo if that is what

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Speaker 1: is required. I understand that the government's going to be

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Speaker 1: coming out today making an announcement around security. Now, probably

526
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Speaker 1: three weeks ago we were having discussions with some of

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Speaker 1: the well certainly with Hospitality and TA, around some of

528
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Speaker 1: the issues that were being experienced with some of the

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Speaker 1: hotels for example along the Esperadeen. They had felt that

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Speaker 1: security had been sort of the hours minimized. Now I

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Speaker 1: understand that as of today, Darwin and Palmerston, you guys

532
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Speaker 1: are going to be announcing that you're ramping up that security,

533
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Speaker 1: the expansion of the private security patrols.

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Speaker 4: What exactly are we going to see, do you know? Bill?

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Speaker 3: Look, we're going to be doubling the security patrols Darwin,

536
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Speaker 3: Northern Suburbs and Parmo over this period and increasing it

537
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Speaker 3: out I think six days a week and increasing the hours.

538
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Speaker 3: So we'll see an increased security presence across Darwin, out

539
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Speaker 3: the Northern Suburbs and Palms as well leading into this

540
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Speaker 3: Christmas period and over the Christmas period and for a period.

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Speaker 4: So is that the blue shirt Mont?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's a security Yeah, So that's a scre

543
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Speaker 3: their private security that we contract came in that we've

544
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Speaker 3: seen them around the CBD and I think people out

545
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Speaker 3: in the suburbs have seen them doing what they do.

546
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Speaker 3: So we're increasing that, doubling it, change in the hours

547
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Speaker 3: and increasing the days that they'll be out operational over Christmas,

548
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Speaker 3: just to provide that little bit of extra security because

549
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Speaker 3: we have heard from hospitals there's issues around the place.

550
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Speaker 3: So we're getting these people back.

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Speaker 2: How long does Christmas go for Billy, Well in the

552
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Speaker 2: territory Christmas.

553
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Speaker 4: It's starting for me and Kathleen today.

554
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Speaker 3: It goes right through to February. I'm not sure any

555
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Speaker 3: Ejac dated one how far it goes after Christmas, but

556
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Speaker 3: I said it will progress over Christmas and past Christmas

557
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Speaker 3: over there. I suppose that I.

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Speaker 1: Actually think that this has always been a good initiative,

559
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Speaker 1: the security patrols. And I know that you know, the

560
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Speaker 1: former government cops a lot of stick on a lot

561
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Speaker 1: of things, but it was something that you guys introduced

562
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Speaker 1: while still in power many years ago, and it was

563
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Speaker 1: at a time when we were struggling with those police numbers,

564
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Speaker 1: and you know, we were seeing a lot of antisocial behavior,

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Speaker 1: a lot of issues on the street. I think if

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Speaker 1: we're able to do this, I would be proactive. I

567
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Speaker 1: hope that it's a good thing. I hope that it

568
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Speaker 1: is for the community.

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Speaker 7: It is a good thing, right, I mean, we had

570
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Speaker 7: we had it when we were in government. This government's

571
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Speaker 7: continuing it. They're looking at some expansion. It's a deterrent,

572
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Speaker 7: right when you see people there, you kind of almost

573
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Speaker 7: start going, oh, I've got to behave myself. So I

574
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Speaker 7: think it's a good measure. But also we know that

575
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Speaker 7: our police do an incredible job and we want them

576
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Speaker 7: to be out, you know, responding to domestic family violence,

577
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Speaker 7: responding to you know, traffic crimes, all these things, and

578
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Speaker 7: then security can be at those venues or on patrolling

579
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Speaker 7: parts of the CBD to just help de escalate situations.

580
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what it is. It's that that fear

581
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Speaker 5: factor to eliminate that. I mean, in particular around the CBD.

582
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Speaker 5: You know, you definitely see a lot less broken windows.

583
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Speaker 5: Of course, it's going to be still around the place

584
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Speaker 5: because you're never going to eliminate it completely. But it's

585
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Speaker 5: that safety factor of people feeling that they are safer

586
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Speaker 5: rather than just when you're.

587
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Speaker 2: Cruising in your car and suddenly you see a cop

588
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Speaker 2: car in.

589
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Speaker 7: Eurovision mirrorle and you haven't done anything wrong, but suddenly

590
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Speaker 7: you're like, oh, rechecking yourself.

591
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Speaker 2: But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: Having security around the CBD, people start to then question

593
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Speaker 7: their own behavior.

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Speaker 1: And you make sure you would think that people are

595
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Speaker 1: making sure they're doing the right thing. Well, we'll take

596
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Speaker 1: a really quick break. You are listening to Mix one

597
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Speaker 1: O four nine's three sixty. It is the week that

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Speaker 1: was Mixed one.

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Speaker 6: At four point nine three sixty, the week that was

600
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Speaker 6: the most listened to our in Territory radio.

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Speaker 1: Well in the studio this morning, we've got Bill Yan,

602
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Speaker 1: Chancey Paik and Kathleen Gazola. Now it is always a

603
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Speaker 1: busy week in Parliament, but certainly when it's the final

604
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Speaker 1: week of parliamentary sittings for the year.

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Speaker 4: And well, last night, I.

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Speaker 1: Believe Bill you're handed down the mid year budget report.

607
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Speaker 1: Doing it late night on a Thursday. Was that because

608
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Speaker 1: it was good or bad?

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Speaker 3: I would to like to hand it out the first

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Speaker 3: day of the week because it was good. Look, we've

611
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Speaker 3: seen in the midiar report a change in our numbers

612
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Speaker 3: off our budget that we handed down earlier this year.

613
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Speaker 3: So we've seen a kick in GST revenue because we've

614
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Speaker 3: had an increase in population which has changed that g

615
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Speaker 3: T about one hundred and thirty four million there.

616
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Speaker 4: But what we had next one hundred and thirty four million.

617
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what we're seeing now is a big underground power. Yeah.

618
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Speaker 3: Just because extra doesn't mean we run out and spend it.

619
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Speaker 3: I know another Bobby used to do that. I'm just saying,

620
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Speaker 3: he's the bill of the territory, can't afford it, here's

621
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Speaker 3: the bill looking after. But we've had a big kick

622
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Speaker 3: to in our own source revenue and that's through either

623
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Speaker 3: stamp duties, particularly coming off the back of the homegrown

624
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Speaker 3: grants and some sales of commercial property. So we've had

625
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Speaker 3: also an uptick in our own source revenue. So overall

626
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Speaker 3: it's probably four to five hundred million dollar change on

627
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Speaker 3: the positive side in the midyear report, which is really

628
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Speaker 3: good to see. So those numbers.

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Speaker 4: Are really good as shows.

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Speaker 3: That we're we're able to probably said start we'll reducing

631
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Speaker 3: We're not going to we can't reduce the debt like

632
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Speaker 3: as the debt will still increase slightly. But what we're

633
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: doing we're seeing a change in that debt curve. So

634
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Speaker 3: rather than continue, it's started starting to slow and flatten out.

635
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Speaker 1: So as the treasure, does that make you go, Okay,

636
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: well we need to just you know, keep going steady here,

637
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Speaker 1: or we need to look at some things to invest

638
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Speaker 1: some money into.

639
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Speaker 3: No, what said these changes in these numbers K just

640
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Speaker 3: means that we're not we don't have to borrow.

641
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Speaker 4: As that much.

642
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Speaker 3: And we've seen our debt debts revenue ratio change. The

643
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Speaker 3: forecast was up towards one hundred and thirty two, one

644
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty percent. That's dropped down now, which is

645
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Speaker 3: good to see.

646
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Speaker 2: So what's dropped down to.

647
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Speaker 3: I think we've done about one hundred and twenty four

648
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five, which is a good change,

649
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Speaker 3: but still sign I look at Victoria's feel good to.

650
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Speaker 4: Make an impact.

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Speaker 1: Has some of the scrapping of different projects had Has

652
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Speaker 1: it had any you know, some of the different things

653
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Speaker 1: that you're expecting to have ongoing, you know, like the

654
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Speaker 1: museum and art gallery or the you know, the Aboriginal

655
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Speaker 1: Art Gallery in Alice.

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Speaker 4: Springs for example.

657
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Speaker 1: I know we hadn't sort of started building it, but

658
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Speaker 1: some of the work had already been under.

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Speaker 3: Way, that hasn't had a real it hasn't had a

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Speaker 3: real effect on those numbers, on those headline numbers. And

661
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Speaker 3: also what we're saying is this particular changes in GS

662
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Speaker 3: two revenue and owned source revenue, so through taxation. The

663
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Speaker 3: one really interesting thing, Katie has been we don't made

664
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Speaker 3: those changes from one point five to two point five

665
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Speaker 3: on payroll tax oh sorry, on businesses here, so we

666
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: lifted that to two point five million dollars. Now, we

667
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: were forecasting to probably see a reduction in revenue by

668
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Speaker 3: about twenty five to thirty million dollars with those changes.

669
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Speaker 3: But what we've actually seen now, we've seen an increase

670
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Speaker 3: in employment. We've seen an increase in wage growth in

671
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Speaker 3: business across the territory. So those numbers have actually gone up.

672
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Speaker 2: So resign on a high, Billy.

673
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: I want to see that gap flying revenue.

674
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Speaker 3: I've still got plenty more work to do. And look,

675
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: we're doing the work now on the next on our

676
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: next budget for next year. And it's hard draft because

677
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: everybody wants everything. I'd love to give everybody everything, but

678
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: I can't. They got pretty responsible about how we do

679
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: it to make sure that that debt number is not

680
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: continue to increase.

681
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Speaker 2: Stromy look, and.

682
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Speaker 1: I think it's always interesting, you know, because for a

683
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: lot of people listening, some of these numbers they just

684
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: flow over your head, right, you know, like you go, Okay,

685
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: we're an enormous amount of deep what exactly does that mean?

686
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: And and for a.

687
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Lot of people, they're they're sort of more going, all right, well,

688
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: how do we build a new hospital or what do

689
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: we need to do to get to a point where

690
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Speaker 1: we're able to you know, to deliver some of those

691
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: projects and to not feel as though we are, you know,

692
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: we're constantly kind of behind.

693
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Speaker 7: The important part, Katie, I think you know it was

694
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Speaker 7: tabled last night on the last sitting day, so we'll

695
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 7: now work through that and have a bit of a

696
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 7: look at it.

697
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Speaker 2: I think you make a good point.

698
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Speaker 7: We often talk about numbers both parties, and often a

699
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 7: lot of people don't understand what those numbers mean.

700
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Speaker 2: And not all debt is bad debt.

701
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 7: Sometimes you have to spend money to make money, but

702
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 7: also you need to sometimes look at borrowing money to

703
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 7: build things.

704
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Like hospitals or infrastructure projects.

705
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 7: And you know, things like yes, the average and art

706
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 7: gallery is not going to go ahead under the CLP

707
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 7: in our springs, but we need to make sure that

708
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 7: we can quarantine that money in our springs because we

709
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 7: can invest in other opportunities, because the biggest thing the

710
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: territory needs to do is attract people to move here

711
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 7: and to come here to visit, because we just love

712
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 7: interstate people's money coming into the toys.

713
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: We'll look look at that GSD increase of just said,

714
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: it's so the population.

715
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: Jurism or major event that comes to the territory.

716
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 7: We want interstate and international people to spend their mulla

717
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 7: here in the territory because that means more for us.

718
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Speaker 5: What's the forecast looking like next year? Because I mean,

719
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Speaker 5: isn't an empire or bloo oh yeah.

720
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Speaker 3: Looking like producing next year? And of course those revenue

721
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: numbers ramp up by time. So the initial revenue numbers

722
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: are coming out of bou are not that huge, but

723
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: I'll take any revenue a course, Kathleen, what's a flow

724
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: on too? And as Beeloo ramps up, it comes up

725
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: to full production, that's when you see a really significant

726
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: shift in revenue numbers. Chances right, we do have to

727
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: borrow money to do things, but to be able to

728
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: borrow money. We've got to be responsible in our spending

729
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: at the moment. I suppose the one thing, and I've

730
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: spoken about it before, is we have Moodies. They come

731
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: up every year. They came up in March, and I

732
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: was really concerned about our Moody's rating because looking at

733
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: the debt.

734
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Speaker 1: Projections, it impacts whether you how much borrowing you can do,

735
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Speaker 1: and that kind of thing.

736
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Speaker 3: It fis our interest rates on our borrowings. If our

737
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: rating drops and our interest rate goes up, so we're

738
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: paying more to borrow. And Moodies came up and I

739
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: sat down with them with the Treasury team and we

740
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: went through what we were doing, the plans we had

741
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: in place for our economic strategy, and Moodies came back

742
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: in September. We've maintained our rating.

743
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Well, that is good. That's good.

744
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: That was some really positives that what I need to

745
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: do is make that rating.

746
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 7: That's yeah, reducing interest and that's the challenge that all

747
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 7: governments have, right and this government will have the same.

748
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, these gas projects that are coming

749
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: onto line now, they've been in the making for a

750
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 7: long time, so it'll be interesting to find out what

751
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 7: the Territory Coordinator actually does and what they're able to produce,

752
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 7: to say that they have streamlined to bring projects on quicker,

753
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 7: to bring more revenue, because so far we've spent twenty

754
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 7: one million dollars and got sixteen staff and we haven't

755
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: had a project class track.

756
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: Well, look, we will just move along very quickly. I

757
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: mean sorry, any updates there on the Territory Coordinator, I'll

758
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: give jaxas a little.

759
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: Bit of smoke and Mirrorscadia from the government. The money

760
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: for the Territory of co Ordinator come from the three

761
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: commissioners that the previous government had was taken from there

762
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: and rolled into one agency. So it's not as if

763
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 3: we're all new money. This was existing and moved across.

764
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Speaker 3: It's been done, or he's doing plenty of trust.

765
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Speaker 1: Well, hey, just a couple of listener comments. Someone said

766
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Speaker 1: a hospital over power lines please says that text. Someone

767
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: else has said, Katie, can you please ask Bill Yan

768
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: what the extended hours and days are for the Blue Shirts?

769
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: And does this cover per rap that one from Joe

770
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: any idea of bill Arena.

771
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: We'll cover prep because we're talking about Darwin Northern suburb.

772
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: So it's all Darwin, including Palmo. So I think they're

773
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 3: out till midnight and it's six days a week.

774
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: I'll double check that.

775
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure i've got that info there, so I'll

776
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: double check that for Joe as well, and we'll.

777
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Speaker 4: Take a really quick break. You are listening to Mix

778
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: one O four nine's three sixty. It is the week

779
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: that was.

780
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: Mixed one or four point nine three sixty, the week

781
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: that was the most listened to our in Territory radio.

782
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, you are listening to the week that was the

783
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: last one for the year. I'm going on long service leave,

784
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: as we all know from from today, so the last

785
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: week that was of the year. Now, before we wrap.

786
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Up, how long is long?

787
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: How long's long service? December and January?

788
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: Nice?

789
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: You guys be happy with that never runs. All the

790
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: pollies are happy, They're like already kay. Now, before we

791
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: do wrap up the integrity reform, the government passed what

792
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: it's calling a defining reform for the Northern Territories integrity

793
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: system Parliament approving the Integrity and Ethics Commissioner Bill for

794
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, a major overhaul is what you guys

795
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: have described it as bill that merges the IKAK, the Ombudsman,

796
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the Information Commissioner, and the Health Complaints Commissioner into one

797
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: independent watchdog. I know it was not without opposition, a chancey,

798
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I believe you guys asked a few questions on this

799
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: and had a few concerns.

800
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: I mean, how is this going to make things better?

801
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

802
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: Look if you go back to the ik the previous

803
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: goverment board in yeah and look and said look where

804
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: we ended up with that ik It's unfortunate, but the

805
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: entire population territories lost faith in the IKAK. There there

806
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: was no faith in what they were doing, sadly, and

807
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: then we got the review done by the two independent

808
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: people and they come up with a model that said

809
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: for the territory, this is what will work and this

810
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 3: is what we recommend. And they are independent of territory,

811
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: very highly respected people who inspector who work in this

812
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: integrity space, and they come up with a model and

813
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: presented that to us and said this is what the

814
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: territory needs to implement. And we've taken that report and

815
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: we've implemented the changes that they've put forward. But what

816
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: it does does a couple of things. It provides a

817
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: little bit more support too for some of those other

818
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: independent officers, because they were all working doing their thing

819
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: in their own individual spaces, but there was very little

820
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: support above them. So we have the commission that sits

821
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: across the top. Then we have a like a CEO

822
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: that sits over that provides that ADMIN support HR and

823
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: all those other bits and pieces that a lot of

824
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: these agencies have struggled with over time. And they sit

825
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: in under there. They're still independence and do their work,

826
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: but there's support for them. Everyone's saying, oh, this is

827
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: a cost saving measure. Well, funnily enough, Katie, it's not.

828
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: Is it going to cost me?

829
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: It's going probably going to cost us a little bit

830
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: more money to do this, but we'll get better out.

831
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: The big thing is I just I suppose I'm a

832
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: bit like, kind of following on from some of the

833
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: things that we've seen through the eyekack, I'm a bit like, well,

834
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: is it actually going to work?

835
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: You know?

836
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: This clears up on what the KAK will be investigating

837
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: and gives I think a little bit more separation around

838
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: what some of those things are. And of course, particularly

839
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 3: in the territories context, there's no five degrees of separational

840
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: territories about point five. Everybody knows everybody, So it's the

841
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: ability then to deal with those conflicts and those perceived

842
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: conflicts far better than what we've seen because the stuff, sadly,

843
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: the stuff we've seen from the IKA has not been

844
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: great and have they been investigating the right things. We

845
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see that change now with a change instructuring. Look,

846
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: I think it's important.

847
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 7: I think we've had numerous conversations about what an integrity

848
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 7: body could look like. There was even suggestions from members

849
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 7: of Parliament about outsourcing it entirely to it now that

850
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 7: you're diction because how close everyone is. We've got a

851
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 7: small population and everyone knows everyone and knows what's going

852
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 7: on or if they someone does.

853
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: Someone does.

854
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 7: So Look, I think, look, the devil is going to

855
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 7: be in the detail. We as the Terrotory Labor have

856
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 7: called for a mandatory reporting period of twelve months to

857
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 7: come back to Parliament to you know, really check it's working,

858
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 7: the checks and the balances. Look, we were very proud

859
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 7: to bring in the first integrity body into the territory

860
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 7: and look, things do need to be reviewed, They do

861
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 7: need to be evaluated, and you know, as Bill has said,

862
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 7: there's always opportunity to look at things and make them better.

863
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 7: So we'll look at this now it's past, it's now

864
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 7: going to be effective, so we'll look at what that

865
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 7: looks like and make sure that we ask the right questions.

866
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 7: And I think a period of twelve months will allow

867
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 7: us to have a enough for.

868
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Us all to have a good look at it and

869
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: good look at whether it's working or not.

870
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

871
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean obviously good friend of the show Matt

872
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 5: Cunningham would help some few opinions on it, given what

873
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 5: we have seen over the what's happened with the different

874
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: IKAQ commissioners and what's come out of it, reports tabled,

875
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: reports thrown out, and the rest of it.

876
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 7: So I mean, we when we talk about it, we

877
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 7: know what corruption is. But to the everyday person is

878
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 7: tuning in, now, what do you send to this commission?

879
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Like, you know, what is it? I think this person's.

880
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: Doing this And that's the thing.

881
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Like that's what I've kind of seen over the years

882
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Speaker 1: as well, is as you know, everybody reporting things to

883
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Speaker 1: the to the I cack and they're going, oh hang on,

884
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Speaker 1: they're not doing their job effectively.

885
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Speaker 4: But it's like.

886
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Speaker 3: Someone else's job, and if it's reported through, that's when

887
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Speaker 3: the IK needs to discidaball is does this really sit

888
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Speaker 3: with me? And that's then there's there's clear parameters about

889
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Speaker 3: what ICC actually does and then whether they send it

890
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Speaker 3: out to different areas to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

892
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Speaker 5: Very close of the twelve months, a report back as

893
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Speaker 5: to how it's working and whether it can be improved

894
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Speaker 5: as well, because the reputation of it is completely shock.

895
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no confidence left in Well that's it for.

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Speaker 4: Us this morning. A very civil week. That was Chancey

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Speaker 4: Pike from the opposition.

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Speaker 7: Great to be on the show, and shout out to

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Speaker 7: all of your listeners. I hate to have a safe

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Speaker 7: and happy Christmas, and I know it can be tempting

901
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Speaker 7: at times, but don't drink and drive, don't be a

902
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 7: bloody idiot. Exactly, have a great season. We'll be back

903
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Speaker 7: next year, certainly, Bill and I go on hand a

904
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Speaker 7: bit of rain.

905
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does look like it does.

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Speaker 1: Jen nice for you guys, Well, yeah, Treasurer, thank you

907
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Speaker 1: so much.

908
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Speaker 3: And while I've got the opportunity I want, I've been

909
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Speaker 3: I think power and all of those crews, but I

910
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Speaker 3: also need to think the d AL team. The DLA

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Speaker 3: team were out on the ground Sunday morning making sure

912
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Speaker 3: that roads were open, checking bridges, doing all that infrastructure

913
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Speaker 3: work so people can get out and about. They're done

914
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Speaker 3: a power work Sunday and Monday. So thanks those guys,

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Speaker 3: and the same for people the territory. Be safe over Christmas,

916
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Speaker 3: have a great Christmas. Don't do any dumb on the roads.

917
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Speaker 3: We don't want any more fatalities. I said it in

918
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Speaker 3: Parliament the other day. Enjoy your Christmas, but don't be

919
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 3: silly on the roads. Think about yourself, think about your families,

920
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Speaker 3: and think about everybody else. But have a great Christmas

921
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Speaker 3: and the great news.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

923
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Speaker 2: Look bipartisan thing right here.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to everyone who are our frontline workers, like

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Speaker 7: Bill and I were talking about it in Parliament yesterday.

926
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Speaker 7: You know, nurses, doctors, fieries, police officers and all these

927
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Speaker 7: people who are going to be making the sacrifice to

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Speaker 7: not be at home on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to all of.

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Speaker 1: You probably there all weekend as well, following off from

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Speaker 1: the cyclone.

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Speaker 4: You know, a busy busy month.

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Speaker 3: For U being rostered on for plenty of Christmas days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet well. Thank you, Bill and Chancy so much.

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Speaker 1: Kathleen, thank you so much, but you're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Thank you,